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FLASH - BREAKING NEWS - Gunman opens fire at Navy Yard in Washington
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Posted by Au Auric 2013-09-16 10:05|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 Stinks to jihadism: and one of the gunmen is Black. Jihadists kill and rape Blacks by the thnousands in Soudan and this Uncle Tom sides with them.
Posted by JFM 2013-09-16 11:17||   2013-09-16 11:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Fox is reporting the possibility [possibility] of multiple shooters due to hospital reports of different gunshot wound characteristics of the injured. Fox indicated it could be the result of a single shooter with two different weapons. No shots fired in last 30 minutes.

Multiple types of wounds could also be attributed to friendly fire.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-16 11:27||   2013-09-16 11:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Nothing to see here. Just a workplace violence incident....move along.
Posted by Ominous1 2013-09-16 11:29||   2013-09-16 11:29|| Front Page Top

#4 From WaPo:
David Stevens, a Navy contractor, was on the phone talking in building 197 when he heard an initial volley of shots fired. He heard people shouting that a shooter was on the building’s fourth floor.

He said he ran to the edge of a glass atrium that overlooks all the floors and glanced up, only to hear a “second deluge” of shots. The fire alarm sounded, and people began exiting the building.

Stevens described the building as very secure. He said employees must present an ID at the entrances. Visitors must have security clearance to get in.

“It’s unbelievable that someone could get a rifle in there -- if that’s what the shooter had,” he said.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2013-09-16 11:31||   2013-09-16 11:31|| Front Page Top

#5 Second flash: One shooter is ‘down,’ another ‘neutralized’ as of 11:18 a.m. DrudgeReport has a multiplicity of articles on the subject

Multiple media reports said at least two attackers were involved in the rampage. Bulcatin reported one of the shooters was “down.”

WUSA9 reported the second shooter had been “neutralized.” Authorities had been closing in on the at-large assailant inside the Navy Yard’s Building 197.

Buclatin said all the injuries occurred in the Building 197, which is home to the Naval Sea Systems Command.

Navy officials had reported three shots were fired at 8:20 a.m. at the headquarters of the Naval Sea Systems Command in Southeast Washington.

Two of the shooting victims are D.C. police officers.

The Navy has issued a shelter-in-place order for personnel, Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said.

“We believe there has been loss of life and several injuries,” Little said. “We continue to monitor this ongoing situation.”

The 11th Street Bridge has been shut down, and people should stay away from the area, the police spokesman said. Flights departing from Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport have being been stopped, the FAA says, and incoming flights are being held at their origin.
Posted by trailing wife 2013-09-16 11:31||   2013-09-16 11:31|| Front Page Top

#6 AP reports shooter is DEAD.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-16 11:34||   2013-09-16 11:34|| Front Page Top

#7 Guys, if you can please include article links with your updates if you can. Type an anchoring word -- "link" will do -- copy the article URL, highlight the word, click on the little world icon in the row below the comment box, and paste your URL into the thingy that pops up. Oh yes, and if you erase the place-holding "http" that is already in the thingy, it will work much better.

Thank y'all so much! And for those of you in DC at the moment, stay safe.
Posted by trailing wife 2013-09-16 11:37||   2013-09-16 11:37|| Front Page Top

#8 Link to #6.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-16 11:40||   2013-09-16 11:40|| Front Page Top

#9 CNN reposts 2 shooters down.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-16 11:45||   2013-09-16 11:45|| Front Page Top

#10 Time for the Obama regime to do massive CYA. Like the Benghazi attack, this will be another cover up as soon as the regime can get its wits together enough to come up with BS talking points.
Posted by Vernal Noodleman1051 2013-09-16 13:07||   2013-09-16 13:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Gun Free Zone, right?
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-09-16 13:10||   2013-09-16 13:10|| Front Page Top

#12 If reports of multiple shooters are true, look for DC to be paralyzed (even more than normal) during rush hour tonite.
Posted by IG-88 2013-09-16 13:11||   2013-09-16 13:11|| Front Page Top

#13 OK - whose cheesy You Tube video was the cause of this, and who's going to jail for it? >:-(
Posted by Barbara 2013-09-16 13:11||   2013-09-16 13:11|| Front Page Top

#14 Hussein Department of Homeland Insecurity already after a thorough investigation and exhaustive investigation has issued a statement saying this is not a terrorist attack.

That is after the regime first sent out a statement this morning to the lame stream media saying "listen to the government".
Posted by Vernal Noodleman1051 2013-09-16 13:31||   2013-09-16 13:31|| Front Page Top

#15 Gun free zone. Yes. Possibly guard was armed - Fed security not USMC or Navy SP.
Posted by OldSpook 2013-09-16 13:33||   2013-09-16 13:33|| Front Page Top

#16 

U.S.: Police Searching For 2 Other Suspects In Navy Yard Shooting
September 16, 2013 | 1733 GMT
Police continue to search for two potential gunmen in the Washington Navy Yard shooting, police chief Cathy Lanier said Sept. 16, AP reported. The deceased gunman has been identified as a Navy employee, and authorities have said he could have been motivated by job-related grievances, though terrorism has not been ruled out. Lanier said she does not believe the other gunmen are members of the military.

From Stratfor a few moments ago.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2013-09-16 13:38||   2013-09-16 13:38|| Front Page Top

#17 Of course its not terror attack, its "workplace violence" just like Ft Hood. He could have been screaming AllahuAkbar, Death to the Infidels, and wearing a kheffiyah, and it would *still* be "workplace violence" for this regime and the Courtney Massengales that serve politics instead of their oaths.
Posted by OldSpook 2013-09-16 13:40||   2013-09-16 13:40|| Front Page Top

#18 That being said, wait for reports, not rumors. Likely it is a pissed of and personal thing, given the nature of that stie.
Posted by OldSpook 2013-09-16 13:42||   2013-09-16 13:42|| Front Page Top

#19 CNN just reported 12 dead.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2013-09-16 14:07||   2013-09-16 14:07|| Front Page Top

#20 Speculation is not a good thing, but I will bet dollars to donuts that the guy or guys showed signs like Hussein did and supervisors did nothing for....various reasons.....
Posted by Alaska Paul 2013-09-16 14:21||   2013-09-16 14:21|| Front Page Top

#21 reports out indicate this person is the shooter
Posted by Phomock Threck9284 2013-09-16 15:39||   2013-09-16 15:39|| Front Page Top

#22 What? He has a record?!
Posted by Rob Crawford 2013-09-16 15:55||   2013-09-16 15:55|| Front Page Top

#23 #21--That's what I found. Note the alleged violation from 3 years ago when he was 31 yrs old: PC 42.12(B) MA DISCHARGE FIREARM CE

How'd he get hired as a civilian contractor?
Posted by JDB 2013-09-16 15:58||   2013-09-16 15:58|| Front Page Top

#24 No conviction.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2013-09-16 16:04||   2013-09-16 16:04|| Front Page Top

#25 The Idiot of the Day award should go to the CNN anchor who said this, "Who ever heard of a gunman rampaging across a U.S. military facility?
I’ve worked in Washington for many years, I’ve never heard of such a thing happening.”

Posted by Deacon Blues 2013-09-16 16:10||   2013-09-16 16:10|| Front Page Top

#26 How'd he get hired as a civilian contractor?

Oh, as suppose hiring a worker who sets fire to a nuclear submarine to get out of a day's work?
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-09-16 16:15||   2013-09-16 16:15|| Front Page Top

#27 How'd he get hired as a civilian contractor?

Well..... I can think of one attribute that may have helped him gain employment.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-09-16 16:18||   2013-09-16 16:18|| Front Page Top

#28 #24 Probably. From what I read, that charge is a Class A misdemeanor in Texas. Up here in NY, any type of infraction with a gun might get one crucified.
Posted by JDB 2013-09-16 16:20||   2013-09-16 16:20|| Front Page Top

#29 More about Mr. Aaron Alexis, former Navy petty officer 3rd class, which is no doubt meaningful to some of you. According to the article, he left the Navy because he didn't like getting up early, and has worked as a civilian contractor -- computers -- since then.

Also, death count is up to 13, but that includes Mr. Alexis.
Posted by trailing wife 2013-09-16 16:56||   2013-09-16 16:56|| Front Page Top

#30 Charges against him were dropped. It was an accidental discharge while cleaning his firearm.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2013-09-16 17:02||   2013-09-16 17:02|| Front Page Top

#31 
It was an accidental discharge while cleaning his firearm.


Complete bullshit, in other words.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2013-09-16 17:23||   2013-09-16 17:23|| Front Page Top

#32 He didn't like the noise his neighbor was making evidently, a history of calling the cops on her.

I think he snapped and is a lone shooter.
Posted by Shipman 2013-09-16 17:39||   2013-09-16 17:39|| Front Page Top

#33 How did he get a weapon into the facility and to the 4th floor with no resistance?
Posted by Airandee 2013-09-16 18:11||   2013-09-16 18:11|| Front Page Top

#34 How did he get a weapon into the facility and to the 4th floor with no resistance?

Fox reports I have pieced together say he stole a badge and killed a guard first. He apparently had a handgun and an AR-15 so he could have taken that from the armed guard but what is on the 3rd and 4th floors of building 97 and why target them? I also heard early reports when it was chaotic of the black armored vehicles arriving and the many armed escorts of a black vehicle getting some VIP out.
Posted by Anging Hatfield6648 2013-09-16 18:28||   2013-09-16 18:28|| Front Page Top

#35 I guess the 3-4th floors can look down to the cafeteria in an open atrium so maybe no one was targeted but he must have been in the building previously. I wonder whose ID he stole and if that is the person being sought?
Posted by Anging Hatfield6648 2013-09-16 18:52||   2013-09-16 18:52|| Front Page Top

#36 Clearly a disgruntled employee/contractor went postal. Nothing to do with Islamic Terror™....but jumping to conclusions is Americans favourite pastime.
Posted by Jerkface Killa 2013-09-16 19:10||   2013-09-16 19:10|| Front Page Top

#37 Especially after Ft Hood, jerk.
Posted by Vernal Noodleman1051 2013-09-16 19:24||   2013-09-16 19:24|| Front Page Top

#38 Something highly secure on the 4th floor. Fox interviewed a Capt with 60 people under him. His offices and conference room were on a "security only" entrance.

He stated that some fast employee of his shut the "outer layer of security." There were gun shots in the doors of the offices there on that 4th floor.
Posted by Sherry 2013-09-16 19:27||   2013-09-16 19:27|| Front Page Top

#39 Seattle Police say Aaron Alexis was arrested June 3rd 2004, a few days after shooting out the tires of a car parked in a driveway next to a home where he was staying in the Beacon Hill neighborhood.

Police say the morning of May 6th 2004, construction workers reported a man coming out of a house near where they were working and shooting out the tires of a Honda Accord that they had driven to the site and then returning to a nearby home.

Link
Posted by Vernal Noodleman1051 2013-09-16 19:36||   2013-09-16 19:36|| Front Page Top

#40 Alexis was arrested for disorderly conduct in August 2008 in DeKalb County, Georgia. He was released from custody after posting $364 bond (and posing for a booking photo). The details and disposition of the misdemeanor case could not be obtained.

Arrested in 3 states in 10 years and DHS/NSA are too interested in the Tea Party to notify the government not to hire him as a contractor.
Posted by Beldar Glineter4775 2013-09-16 19:59||   2013-09-16 19:59|| Front Page Top

#41 We can be thankful the officer that shot him, killed him. Now we wont have to go through Jackson and the rest of the race baiters blaming it on the middle aged white guy.
Posted by 49 Pan 2013-09-16 20:12||   2013-09-16 20:12|| Front Page Top

#42 Frequented the Wat Busayadhammavanaram Buddhist Temple.
Posted by Vernal Noodleman1051 2013-09-16 20:19||   2013-09-16 20:19|| Front Page Top

#43 I think he snapped and is a lone shooter.

Or maybe he was just a treacherous asshole.
Posted by badanov 2013-09-16 20:27|| http://www.chriscovert.net  2013-09-16 20:27|| Front Page Top

#44 I dunno, maybe it's time for the military to start carrying weapons instead of being a gun free zone. Just sayin.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2013-09-16 20:28||   2013-09-16 20:28|| Front Page Top

#45 > Both FOX + CNN repor that Police are looking for a possible third shooter.
> Shooter Alexis repor prayed at a Buddhist temple.
> Shoote ALexis claimed to had been involved in the search-n-rescue efforts back on 9-11-2001 in NYC.
> Father says son was a LT sufferer of PTSD.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-09-16 20:35||   2013-09-16 20:35|| Front Page Top

#46 I always thought that mass shootings were from odd ball loner, young white males. Thus we need to keep them from owning firearms.

My prayers to the families.
Posted by Grinetch Smiter of the Lichtensteiners5612 2013-09-16 20:42||   2013-09-16 20:42|| Front Page Top

#47 I always thought that mass shootings were from odd ball loner, young white males. Thus we need to keep them from owning firearms.

So what are you gonna do. Use every little niggling adverse event in a man's life to deny him the right to purchase a firearm?

We already have that in place, and in addition to denying folks who obey the law the right to purchase a firearm, a lot more folks who would never conceive of such of trying such an act being denied.

The shooter was a f*cking asshole. End of story. Al the fascist laws in the land Congress has passed since the NFA wouldn't have stopped him from doing what he did.
Posted by badanov 2013-09-16 20:56|| http://www.chriscovert.net  2013-09-16 20:56|| Front Page Top

#48 Jeeze Louise! The Navy is treating their personnel in security like a friggin elementary school. Lockdown, people. At least you need each section having someone armed with at least a sidearm. You do not get security from the top down. You get it in layers, so if a link breaks, you can recover. Law abiding citizens with firearms have better security for their families than the Navy Yard has.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2013-09-16 21:18||   2013-09-16 21:18|| Front Page Top

#49 So what are you gonna do. Use every little niggling adverse event in a man's life to deny him the right to purchase a firearm?

I think the commenter was being sarcastic, bad.

....but jumping to conclusions is Americans favourite pastime.

Yep, IP sez Toronto area. I thought I recogised that particular reek of condescension.
Posted by Pappy 2013-09-16 22:00||   2013-09-16 22:00|| Front Page Top

#50 I haven't read where anybody's said the shooter was somebody's patsy, yet. With his profile he seems like a Oswald candidate.
Posted by Skidmark 2013-09-16 22:47||   2013-09-16 22:47|| Front Page Top

#51 "We do now feel comfortable that we have the single and sole person responsible for the loss of life inside the base today," Washington Police Chief Cathy Lanier said.
So one shooter as a diversion for escape of the other two?
Posted by Skidmark 2013-09-16 22:52||   2013-09-16 22:52|| Front Page Top

#52 I always thought that mass shootings were from odd ball loner, young white males

The majority of the population is white, therefore the majority of such shooters ought to be as well. Contrariwise it is generally assumed that any minorities engaging in such behaviour are gang bangers, except in cases like that Korean lad at Virginia Tech some years back. Journalists tend not to look beyond the standard storyline, making it hard for readers to discover underlying truths.
Posted by trailing wife 2013-09-16 23:12||   2013-09-16 23:12|| Front Page Top

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