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2013-11-21 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Glenmore 2013-11-21 12:52|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 I can only hope the moderator comments are right. But at this point I believe everything is fucked too badly to be fixed. It needs completely torn down and started over.

Posted by DarthVader 2013-11-21 14:24|| 2013-11-21 14:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Harry Reid seems to assume that the Dems will have a permanent majority in the Senate. Payback is a hitch.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-11-21 15:10|| 2013-11-21 15:10|| Front Page Top

#3 The beauty of the filibuster is that it slows things down - and often stops them. That's a good thing. The less government does the better. If something really needs to be done then it will get 60 votes in favor.

Obviously we can use this too, but I suspect that McConnell is stupid enough to reinstate the filibuster if he's handed the reins.

Posted by Iblis 2013-11-21 15:14|| 2013-11-21 15:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Obviously we can use this too, but I suspect that McConnell is stupid enough to reinstate the filibuster if he's handed the reins.

This assumes he survives his primary challenge and gets reelected.

Posted by Secret Asian Man 2013-11-21 15:45|| 2013-11-21 15:45|| Front Page Top

#5 "The lack of a filibuster will hurt the next fourteen months."

...there are going to be judges appointed who shall continue the hurt a lot further out than fourteen months...

Posted by Uncle Phester 2013-11-21 16:08|| 2013-11-21 16:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Those raving red looney judges hurt real bad.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2013-11-21 16:19|| 2013-11-21 16:19|| Front Page Top

#7 The system of the 60% majority was not really bad. I did not like the filibuster. How about this for your Rantburg consideration:

How about a 60% majority voting on everything but treaties? Then a lot of chaff falls by the wayside. The only weakness is vote trading, but we have that anyway.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2013-11-21 18:02|| 2013-11-21 18:02|| Front Page Top

#8 I'll do you one better AP. How about 2/3 to pass anything and a bare majority to repeal.

Posted by Iblis 2013-11-21 19:01|| 2013-11-21 19:01|| Front Page Top

#9 Tieing up the lefts hands any way possible works for me.

Posted by Guillibaldo McCoy1948 2013-11-21 19:14|| 2013-11-21 19:14|| Front Page Top

#10 Let them repeal anything with 50%, but require more than that to pass something new. Oh, and every law sunsets after no more than ten years.

Posted by rammer 2013-11-21 19:22|| 2013-11-21 19:22|| Front Page Top

#11 I think that a lot of suggestions are valid. The problem is the personnel in the Senate and the House. They cannot reform themselves. They are too vested in the logrolling vote buying way of doing business. They need to be gone and replaced with independents. We literally cannot afford the current crop any more.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2013-11-21 19:57|| 2013-11-21 19:57|| Front Page Top

#12 Senator Carl Levin quoted today:

"But Democrats have used the filibuster in the past, and changing the rules by fiat means that there are no rules in the Senate any longer, he said. Today we are once again moving down a destructive path, Levin said.

Yes indeed. One need only read a history of the transition of Rome from republic to empire to understand this very point. It didn't happen in a day or a decade; it took about a century. But it happened because very partisan people were willing to change the rules of the game to take care of their own short-term interests, and locked themselves into patron-client relationships to distribute power and spoils, and were willing to use violence and the ruination of fortune and reputation against others to get what they wanted.

Sound familiar?

To borrow from Mr. Twain, history may not repeat but it sure does rhyme.

Posted by Steve White 2013-11-21 21:17|| 2013-11-21 21:17|| Front Page Top

#13 Remember, Harry. The wheel turns. The wheel turns...

Posted by tu3031 2013-11-21 21:20|| 2013-11-21 21:20|| Front Page Top

#14 Let's call it what it is: OBAMAZUELA

Posted by regular joe 2013-11-21 21:49|| 2013-11-21 21:49|| Front Page Top

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