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2014-08-02 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

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Posted by trailing wife 2014-08-02 09:03|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top
File under: Hamas

#1 Okay - now that its winding down I have a couple of technical questions regarding the tunnels.
1) was there enough moisture, metal or density difference for the tunnels to act as crude EM-waveguide?
2) If so were tests attempted? One would like to know if a maser or something lower frequency like UHF/VHF/Shortwave could propagate down a tunnel structure first with enough power to sense it's path and second with enough power to damage organic material.

Posted by 3dc 2014-08-02 12:50|| 2014-08-02 12:50|| Front Page Top

#2 You get enough 2000 lb. bombs and 155mm HE landing in a small enough area there are mysterious Haliburton types who can read the manufacturer of the shovel that dug it.

Posted by Shipman 2014-08-02 13:28|| 2014-08-02 13:28|| Front Page Top

#3 3dc, I like Shipman's approach better. I don't want to just damage Hamas.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2014-08-02 14:40|| 2014-08-02 14:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Shipman, I think the approach is limited compared to filling the existing tunnels with a propane-oxygen mixture. Or acetylene or MAPP gas.

Doesn't Israel have welders?

BTW, I also have ideas about how to do the seismic detection; drill some vertical boreholes in a straight horizontal line and put the sensors in each one, so that you have a square array of sound sensors underground.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2014-08-02 14:48|| 2014-08-02 14:48|| Front Page Top

#5 We have gear that does counter tunnel detection in Korea. Tunneling has been an old problem up on the DMZ for decades.

People keep forgetting the cold war and all the lessons we learned in it.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-08-02 15:01|| 2014-08-02 15:01|| Front Page Top

#6 I love Rantburg U's practical engineering applications course! Next best thing to Prager University. Perhaps Fred should start video courses, and we could all be guest lecturers...

My own suggestion: ANFO is cheap and makes a satisfying kaboom. I like the idea of acetylene just to ensure that the top walls of the tunnel reach the sun-baked surface of Gazoo.

Posted by Steve White 2014-08-02 16:03|| 2014-08-02 16:03|| Front Page Top

Seems like such a needless waste not to use those Hamas tunnels for something.

Snark of the day.
Snark of the week.
Candidate for snark of the month, and the month is young.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-08-02 16:27|| 2014-08-02 16:27|| Front Page Top

#8 OldSpook - Worked with a guy whose first job in our firm was 1 mile underground Seoul's tunnels watching out for rats and watersnakes while improving the dictator's phone system.

They kept an eye out for encroaching NKor tunnels too.

Posted by 3dc 2014-08-02 20:10|| 2014-08-02 20:10|| Front Page Top

#9 Do like Gerald Bull, fill a chamber with propane and oxygen and send a ton sized shell to the moon...
Pump 100 tons of liquid oxygen and propane
down Hamas' tunnel network
and propel the whole Gaza to the Iraqi Levant Caliphate!

Posted by Cruque Peacock9458 2014-08-02 21:31|| 2014-08-02 21:31|| Front Page Top

#10 #7 - I'm down with the proposed accolades. I'm also jealous I didn't think of it, B.

Posted by Frank G 2014-08-02 21:42|| 2014-08-02 21:42|| Front Page Top

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