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2014-08-31 Europe

Dutch Government Clamps Down On Radicalization

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Posted by trailing wife 2014-08-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 "Theo" van Gogh (23 July 1957 – 2 November 2004). It will soon be ten years since his murder. Appears the truth is finally sinking in.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-08-31 00:54|| 2014-08-31 00:54|| Front Page Top

#2 Dollar, day?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-08-31 02:12|| 2014-08-31 02:12|| Front Page Top

#3 Euro, year, g(r)omgoru?

Posted by Glenmore 2014-08-31 10:29|| 2014-08-31 10:29|| Front Page Top

#4 are you sure these measures are aimed at restraining fascist Islamism?

In australia, similar headlines touted a raft of new laws that have nothing at all to do with clamping down on radical Islamism.

Instead they strip the right to a fair trial and give the intelligence organisations immunity from prosecution.

nowhere do they mention Islamism

but they do give asio etc the right to put tracking devices on people without applying for the warrant (like they have to now)

hack computers and tamper with information - including the computers of journalists.

and force courts to accept illegally obtained information.

victims of special operations won't even be able to tell their lawyers what happened to them with a potential penalty of 10 years jail

got nothing to do with Islamism

it's an orwellian power grab. Nobody reads the legislation so the journalists are just quoting people talking about legislation they haven't even read.

Posted by anon1 2014-08-31 10:33|| 2014-08-31 10:33|| Front Page Top

#5 if the laws are actually aimed at halting radical Islamism, I am all for them. One thousand per cent

but i'd want to read the laws before i believe the headline having just seen shocking lies in australia

Posted by anon1 2014-08-31 10:35|| 2014-08-31 10:35|| Front Page Top

#6 The proposals include beefing up the government's powers to strip people of their Dutch nationality if they join terrorist organizations overseas or play a role -- as teacher or student -- in foreign terror training camps.

Might be a good start so long as those who are radicalized and go to some terrorist supporting country are left in that country to enjoy the Islamic paradise (snark) forever. They should be people without a country. They should not be allowed to spread their filth.

Duly noted Anom1 re a loss of rights in countries that pass laws denying citizens rights (for one reason or another), e.g. to snoop on citizens without restraint, to have courts that are not subject to scrutiny, etc. There is a need for balance. We have not achieved that balance here. We probably never will as each issue will have to be resolved in the courts.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-08-31 10:43|| 2014-08-31 10:43|| Front Page Top

#7 thanks john qc

what i worry about is that the laws here don't actually target islamists at all = so it's not even a balancing act.

they are unaffected by them. It's just everyone else!!

i did note that bit you italicised, too. I just hope the jouralist actually read the laws ... and that they do what the journo is saying they will do

i like your idea of leaving them stateless in Isis territory.

if they like it so much, let Isis issue them a Caliphate citizenship and passport!

Posted by anon1 2014-08-31 10:59|| 2014-08-31 10:59|| Front Page Top

#8 It's the usual B.S. bureaucratic response to a problem occurs in schools. When two kids fight in school, the entire class gets punished.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-08-31 17:34|| 2014-08-31 17:34|| Front Page Top

#9 such as occurs in schools

Posted by JohnQC 2014-08-31 17:34|| 2014-08-31 17:34|| Front Page Top

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