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2014-12-10 Home Front: WoT
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Posted by Ulaitle Glearong5012 2014-12-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 Much as the reasons for WWII...US isolation and pacifism and rampant weak kneed namby pamby diplomacy encouraged Hitler and Japan to go forward.

When Germany invaded Poland, Liddell Hart said the BEF could have beaten Germany in a week. The diplomacy of the 30s gave Hitler time to build a viable military. In 1939, Poland stretched Germany's logistics and manpower very thin.
Posted by Mystic 2014-12-10 00:51||   2014-12-10 00:51|| Front Page Top

#2 A large war is looming, one that will be far more costly than the preventative vigilance that might have stopped it.

It does seem like 1939 except the weapons are more dangerous. Although Chamberlain the Appeaser is gone, there are plenty of appeasers in the West who won't address rising threats in the M.E., Iran and Russia. They continue living in a fool's paradise such as Europe did in 1939. The politicians distract with P.C. nonsense and hope the threats will go away. It is the ostrich approach to geo-political threats. One can't appease the world's bullies ever--they will over-reach, expand and try to make you submit to their wants and/or ideology.
Posted by JohnQC 2014-12-10 07:58||   2014-12-10 07:58|| Front Page Top

#3 Chamberlain the Appeaser is gone

In his defense, the military had been victim of over a decade of decline in support of just maintenance. He did initiate a crash program to regenerate the industry need to rearm before Poland. At that point he was buying time. With all the talk about Putin and Russia, has anyone seen the contemporary major Euro states do likewise?
Posted by Procopius2k 2014-12-10 08:17||   2014-12-10 08:17|| Front Page Top

#4 The appeasers of the 1930s at least had the example of WWI to avoid repeating. We gave up after a sliver of those casualties and after imposing all sorts of constraints on ourselves.

It's like we don't want to win.
Posted by Frozen Al 2014-12-10 10:41||   2014-12-10 10:41|| Front Page Top

#5 In the new PC world where everybody gets a prize for participating and no one loses, winning is not acceptable. Everyone has to feel good about themselves. Insuring self-esteem replaces learning as the goal of education. Blame is never assigned to anyone unless it assigned to everyone. Failure does not occur. It is a sad bunch of 1960s hippie hogwash and has little to do with the extant dangerous realities then or now. We will have to confront our enemies and win or submit to someone's boot or die. Kumbaya does not work if your enemies don't believe in the concept--it is not long before someone strong fills the vacuum of weakness you have created for yourself.
Posted by JohnQC 2014-12-10 12:08||   2014-12-10 12:08|| Front Page Top

#6 "It's like we don't want to win."

Bambi and his minions don't want us to, Al. (Note they don't think of themselves as us.) >:-(
Posted by Barbara 2014-12-10 13:30||   2014-12-10 13:30|| Front Page Top

#7 Interesting to see mention of Liddell Hart. The only one in the west to take his tactics seriously were the Germans. He had German flag officers attending his speeches with hardly any westerners and low and behold the Germans used his tactics very successfully in their drive towards Moscow.

I suspect our enemies are learning from our tactics right now while we try to dismantle the more successful ones for being unpleasant.
Posted by rjschwarz 2014-12-10 15:28||   2014-12-10 15:28|| Front Page Top

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