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2016-03-03 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Justice Dept. grants immunity to staffer who set up Clinton email server

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Posted by Frank G 2016-03-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 "You have to ask, at this point, what difference does it make?"

Posted by Nguard 2016-03-03 00:23|| 2016-03-03 00:23|| Front Page Top

#2 Amazing how WaPo and NYT just don't seem to care. Remember this when they start throwing rocks at Republicans.

Posted by Sven the pelter 2016-03-03 00:52|| 2016-03-03 00:52|| Front Page Top

#3 The words are clear indicators. Immunity...Immunity from prosection, not immunity from a mere inquiry. Immunity is not offered unless the prosecutor has established probable cause in his/her mind that a crime has occurred. You can conclude that the Justice Department has physical evidence that they wish to be corroborated by Pagliano. He will have to cooperate fully to maintain the immunity...or face charges. The odds of a grand jury have increased immeasurably.

Posted by Tennessee 2016-03-03 01:05|| 2016-03-03 01:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Twitter: #WatchHillarySquirm

Posted by Lone Ranger 2016-03-03 01:27|| 2016-03-03 01:27|| Front Page Top

#5 Vince Foster's ghost may soon have company.

Posted by gorb 2016-03-03 01:47|| 2016-03-03 01:47|| Front Page Top

#6 He may also testify that he told Hillary everything was secure. That it was he who violated the policy and that she never ordered him to do anything illegal. After all he has immunity and she has control of a huge charitable foundation.

Posted by Airandee 2016-03-03 03:20|| 2016-03-03 03:20|| Front Page Top

#7 Airandee, that's an interesting question.

I've been thinking that they would stall and dither till after the election, but, you're idea may be the first one I heard as a way to get all the Demorats out of this mess.

WaPo and NYT will scream this to the world if that's the way it goes. Hillary uber alles!!

Posted by AlanC 2016-03-03 08:20|| 2016-03-03 08:20|| Front Page Top

#8 Interesting theory, but if the Feds to have evidence to confirm, and his testimony flies in the face of other data, I suppose they'd hang him out to dry for perjury?

Hillary and Co. can't be any smarter than the Underworld Kingpins (to avoid ethnic stereotypes).

Posted by Bobby 2016-03-03 08:32|| 2016-03-03 08:32|| Front Page Top

#9 They're running this business to ground far too close to the election. If she is removed from the running prior to the election, will the candidacy default to Sanders? Will a new candidate have time emerge and prepare. Will the 22nd be set aside permitting the Champ an extension ?

If she loses the election and is brought up on charges imediately afterward, will the Trump hating 'beltway party' claim the election was spoiled by scandal and seek to have it declared invalid ?

If she wins the election in November, will Champ simply pardon her and her evil minions before he leaves office.

I smell a potential train wreck of epic proportion.

Posted by Besoeker 2016-03-03 08:34|| 2016-03-03 08:34|| Front Page Top

#10 Gotta love CNN - The FBI reviewers oversaw the process that upgraded the emails now known to be highly sensitive ....

As if the SAP stuff needed to upgraded. Most of the info on the emails was classified the BEFORE it migrated to the unclass network. Why can't CNN understand that?? So in the tank for the Beast - who keeps calling this a security review or inquiry. She knows exactly what this is and knows she's into up to her neck.

Posted by Bangkok Billy 2016-03-03 08:36|| 2016-03-03 08:36|| Front Page Top

#11 They're probably ALL 'back-channeling' classified material on UNCLAS systems to avoid FOIA, and have been for years. And if the Russians, Chinese, did I mention the Chinese? ....and others have not been hacking every keystroke, shame on them as well.

The assumption must be made that foreign intelligence services gained full access. How could any competent damage assessment effort assume otherwise? Could there have possibly been a higher priority target? I think not.

My guess is, this thing is much, much bigger than Clinton, and the wrong doing is spread across both political parties.

Posted by Besoeker 2016-03-03 08:53|| 2016-03-03 08:53|| Front Page Top

#12 Sorry Bobby but I think you're making one mistake.

Hillary and Co. can't be any smarter than the Underworld Kingpins

Smarter? No. More connected? By the power of 100.

Don't approach this as though Hillary and the Feds are on opposite sides. This is nothing more than an inrarmural squabble. They're keeping it all in the family so to speak

Posted by AlanC 2016-03-03 11:30|| 2016-03-03 11:30|| Front Page Top

#13 Hilda is an expert in the dance to avoid prosecution through the use of language and pleas of ignorance. Someone(s) already being primed to plead out to the stripping and support Hildies' claim of no marking. Leniency promises and a fat career post conviction plus the dangle of a pardon will be the icing. Mills or Sullivan or some dupes most likely. Not Huma, she has too important a personal role and will be in residence at 1600.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2016-03-03 11:32|| 2016-03-03 11:32|| Front Page Top

#14 Yup, that's why I come here - to be cheered up! \sarc

Posted by Bobby 2016-03-03 12:48|| 2016-03-03 12:48|| Front Page Top

#15 It would seem Mr. Pagliano's immunity suggests the proceedings for a grand jury are underway or possibly already convened. It's also quite likely others have been offered simmilar protections. Sec. Clinton's visit to a Federal building is not a if but a when. The outcome of these sitdowns is still very much in question.

Posted by DepotGuy 2016-03-03 13:22|| 2016-03-03 13:22|| Front Page Top

#16 Weird thing is that if anything happens to this guy, or any of his family, no matter how innocent and explainable, Hillary will be blamed (even if not prosecuted).

Posted by rjschwarz 2016-03-03 14:50|| 2016-03-03 14:50|| Front Page Top

#17 Could be a weird way to blackmail her. Give me $ or ? or we'll whack the guys wife and the world will assume it was you Hillary. Think about that as you transfer the money to the account our people will send to you.

Posted by rjschwarz 2016-03-03 14:52|| 2016-03-03 14:52|| Front Page Top

#18 Of course, Hillary's supporters will still support her.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2016-03-03 15:08|| 2016-03-03 15:08|| Front Page Top

#19 Will the 22nd be set aside permitting the Champ an extension ?

shudder

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-03-03 15:31|| 2016-03-03 15:31|| Front Page Top

#20 The FBI slow walking this investigation is either comforting (they are that isolated from politics?) or frightening (the Justice department is that corrupt?).

When do they plan to act?

Posted by Sven the pelter 2016-03-03 18:55|| 2016-03-03 18:55|| Front Page Top

#21 @Besoaker - The Donk Convention will open with a vote of the delegates to adopt the rules of the convention as set forth the day before by the rules committee. If the Hildebeeste is indicted and it's getting a bit too hot said rules committee can simply set forth a rule that, for example, prohibits anyone under active federal indictment from being nominated. All her delegates would free up and it would be game on from there.

Posted by Halliburton - Foreign Affairs Division 2016-03-03 20:36|| 2016-03-03 20:36|| Front Page Top

#22 "When do they plan to act? "

" But the FBI doesn’t offer immunity unless they’re pretty damn sure they’re going to get a conviction down the road. "

Posted by newc 2016-03-03 20:43|| 2016-03-03 20:43|| Front Page Top

#23 Getting ready to say the same thing: the FBI is very careful about offering immunity. They do it when

1) they have a pretty good idea what you're going to say
2) they have a pretty firm hold on your manly/lady parts

That they've offered immunity to Mr. Pagliano says that the FBI knows (and his lawyer knows) that he's going down the river. They don't need his testimony or his cooperation to convict him. They can convict him at any point in time after an indictment has been proffered. They know it. He knows it.

They offered him a chance to sing, and he's going to sing. He's already agreed and likely is (and has been) singing; otherwise the immunity deal wouldn't have been made. The FBI already knew what he was going to say -- he can't take all the blame now because if he tries the FBI will then indict him -- for perjury. That will then invalidate the immunity agreement, and he gets EXTRA time in prison.

He's singing. Who's next up on the food chain?

Posted by Steve White 2016-03-03 20:58|| 2016-03-03 20:58|| Front Page Top

#24 Setting up a server isn't a crime, so I don't quite get the immunity thing.

Posted by European Conservative 2016-03-03 21:10|| 2016-03-03 21:10|| Front Page Top

#25 Setting up a server to circumvent established secure communications rules/laws is, EC. This isn't a plumber or electrician. Who directed him?

I'm hoping Cheryl Mills, Patrick Kennedy, and Huma discover that orange isn't really the new black, it's a fricking jumpsuit, not unlike their bosses' Dr Evil pantsuits

Posted by Frank G 2016-03-03 21:17|| 2016-03-03 21:17|| Front Page Top

#26 I would be very surprised if Hillary told him that he was going to set up a server for that purposes.

But then again I don't know what the law says in that regard (regarding the administrator).

Hillary almost certainly broke the law. The consequences could be important.

Polls currently give Sanders a better chance to beat Trump.

Posted by European Conservative 2016-03-03 21:26|| 2016-03-03 21:26|| Front Page Top

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