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2017-01-26 Home Front: Politix
Here Comes the Wailing about the Wall
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Posted by Bobby 2017-01-26 11:42|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 The American Society of Civil Engineers newsletter that pointed me to this, and other links, was much less positive:

Many challenges accompany President Donald Trump's plan to build a wall between the US and Mexico, including its vast length, open desert that would necessitate new roads be built and, of course, paying for it. A solid wall 35 feet tall and 10 inches thick, for example, would need up to 14.3 million tons of concrete, says the Portland Cement Association.

But I learned at Rantburg, you don't need a continuous wall, just some walls to focus the traffic so you can control it. You don't have to starve six-year old children, just control where they come in.
Posted by Bobby 2017-01-26 11:49||   2017-01-26 11:49|| Front Page Top

#2 Why in the crap would someone build a 35' tall x 10" thick concrete only wall?

Seriously, how many ways is this wrong, both structurally and practically?
Posted by swksvolFF 2017-01-26 12:01||   2017-01-26 12:01|| Front Page Top

#3 How much more does a 'high tech' wall cost? How much has already been spent on one?
Posted by Pappy 2017-01-26 12:09||   2017-01-26 12:09|| Front Page Top

#4 They're building sound walls along large stretches of interstate. Maybe we could just start with a sound wall along the border because of all the mariachi music?
Posted by Fred 2017-01-26 12:32||   2017-01-26 12:32|| Front Page Top

#5 The Israelis have spent a fair bit on their walls. Those are "mid-tech" -- you have a tall concrete wall with concertina wire at the top, foot paths on either side, a good road on your side (for construction and then patrol) along with some sensors and lighting. Yup, it's going to cost money.
Posted by Steve White 2017-01-26 12:35||   2017-01-26 12:35|| Front Page Top

#6 The Israelis have been advising Kenya about building a wall along the Somali border, so they'll be organized to discuss it.
Posted by trailing wife 2017-01-26 13:10||   2017-01-26 13:10|| Front Page Top

#7 If you are really committed to stopping illegal immigration you could string a pair of barbed-wire fences 10 yards apart with free-fire zone between them. Not very compassionate though.
Posted by Glenmore 2017-01-26 14:22||   2017-01-26 14:22|| Front Page Top

#8 It cannot be just a stinkin' wall. It needs to be a whole system of blocking, detection, and countermeasures to insurgents. Best thing is to talk to the Israelis and learn from them.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2017-01-26 17:52||   2017-01-26 17:52|| Front Page Top

#9 Spot on AP. It must include an 'wide array' of tactics. As an example, I would not discount the notion of seeding the Mexican side with acoustic sensors.
Posted by Besoeker 2017-01-26 17:59||   2017-01-26 17:59|| Front Page Top

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