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2018-03-16 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Exclusive: Trump finalizing opioid plan that includes death penalty for dealers
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Posted by Skidmark 2018-03-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ]  Top

#1 Will it involve cruise missile strikes on Chinese fentanyl plants?
Posted by Throter Spock4390 2018-03-16 01:19||   2018-03-16 01:19|| Front Page Top

#2 Will it involve cruise missile strikes on Chinese fentanyl plants?

See Schweizer story below.
Posted by Besoeker 2018-03-16 01:31||   2018-03-16 01:31|| Front Page Top

#3  Still hardly any news coverage about the US postal service subsidy of small package deliveries from China and that inspection of these packages is rarely done.
The death toll is well past the "weapons of mass destruction" level now.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2018-03-16 05:58||   2018-03-16 05:58|| Front Page Top

#4 Saw that Milwaukee County is suing manufacturers over OxyContin. Doctors were also suing the manufacturer over oxy. The claim is that the manufacturer misrepresented the dangers of OxyContin.
Posted by JohnQC 2018-03-16 08:39||   2018-03-16 08:39|| Front Page Top

#5 Boy Howdy, I expect a full court press to resist this from the AMA. After all, doctors are the biggest pushers of opioids in the US...thousands of doctors writing prescriptions for pushers.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2018-03-16 10:15||   2018-03-16 10:15|| Front Page Top

#6 Because banning things always works so well.
Posted by Iblis 2018-03-16 10:52||   2018-03-16 10:52|| Front Page Top

#7 The smell of napalm Manila in the morning.
Posted by Procopius2k 2018-03-16 11:40||   2018-03-16 11:40|| Front Page Top

#8 Fentanyl, while dangerous isn't the primary problem. Tons and tons of cheap Mexican meth coming across the border is the main problem...but that doesn't fit the mainstream media narrative.

Build the wall.
Posted by Tennessee 2018-03-16 11:56||   2018-03-16 11:56|| Front Page Top

#9 Some in Congress and many in the public health field worry that the ambitious plan could be a budget buster with little chance of actually being implemented

Who? Name them. "Critics say" is a cheap and easy way for "Journalists" to push opinion and agenda
Posted by Frank G 2018-03-16 14:29||   2018-03-16 14:29|| Front Page Top

#10 They won't go after the real "dealers". The government will prosecute low hanging fruit, like someone trying to buy oxycontin for grandma with bone cancer, who has a doctor who won't prescribe appropriate medication for fear of being prosecuted herself.
Posted by Sgt.D.T. 2018-03-16 15:46||   2018-03-16 15:46|| Front Page Top

#11 A few years back, I broke a limb. The ER doc offered oxycontin. I emphatically declined and told him that 800 mg of ibuprofen would do the trick. No excuse for ignorance.
Posted by Alistaire Gloluns2996 2018-03-16 16:15||   2018-03-16 16:15|| Front Page Top

#12 Because banning things always works so well.

It works pretty well in the places where it's been instituted. But it will require funding to expedite trials. If arrest to exhaustion of appeals followed by execution (or acquittal) can be reduced to 5 years, I expect we will see a general fall in supply. The moment a single pill mill doctor is given the needle is probably the last you'll ever hear of pill mill doctors.

Note that I am for complete legalization of drugs. But the way I see it, drugs either need to be completely legal or completely illegal. Completely illegal means a noose as the end point for purveyors of the product. What we have now is neither fish nor fowl.

The Singapore penal code for drug possession is probably a good initial start for planning on the subject:





















































Controlled Drug



Presumed trafficking



Mandatory death penalty [2]



opium[3]



100 grams (3.5 oz)



1,200 grams (42 oz)



morphine[4]



3 grams (0.11 oz)



30 grams (1.1 oz)



diamorphine (heroin)



2 grams (0.071 oz)



15 grams (0.53 oz)[5]



cannabis[6]



15 grams (0.53 oz)



500 grams (18 oz)



cannabis mixture



30 grams (1.1 oz)



500 grams (18 oz)



cannabis resin



15 grams (0.53 oz)



100 grams (3.5 oz)



cocaine



3 grams (0.11 oz)



30 grams (1.1 oz)[7]



hashish



10 grams (0.35 oz)



200 grams (7.1 oz)



methamphetamine



25 grams (0.88 oz)



250 grams (8.8 oz)[8]


Posted by Zhang Fei 2018-03-16 17:38||   2018-03-16 17:38|| Front Page Top

#13 Fentanyl and its analogies ARE the main problem in overdose deaths. From the CDC "Approximately 90% of unintentional overdose deaths in 24 Ohio counties that occurred during January and February 2017 involved fentanyl, fentanyl analogs, or both. "
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2018-03-16 18:44||   2018-03-16 18:44|| Front Page Top

#14 Hell, ZF. That was Breakfast for Keith Richards
Posted by Frank G 2018-03-16 20:32||   2018-03-16 20:32|| Front Page Top

#15 Hell, ZF. That was Breakfast for Keith Richards

Back in the day, no one I knew thought he'd live past 40. Now I think he'll outlive us all.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2018-03-16 20:49||   2018-03-16 20:49|| Front Page Top

#16 It's time we and our children and grandchildren start waking up and wondering what kind of world we'll leave for Keith Richards
Posted by Frank G 2018-03-16 22:15||   2018-03-16 22:15|| Front Page Top

#17 It's time we and our children and grandchildren start waking up and wondering what kind of world we'll leave for Keith Richards


LOLOLOLOLOL
Posted by Zhang Fei 2018-03-16 22:45||   2018-03-16 22:45|| Front Page Top

#18  It's time we and our children and grandchildren start waking up and wondering what kind of world we'll leave for Keith Richards

And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.
Posted by SteveS 2018-03-16 22:50||   2018-03-16 22:50|| Front Page Top

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