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2021-08-15 Afghanistan

Afghanistan veterans are 'riveted in horror' by Taliban's 'faster-than-expected' takeover

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Posted by Fred 2021-08-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10 views ] Top
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#1 I am also horrified.

Back in 2001 it seemed that a nationalist govt would provide stability. By 2002, it seemed the Taliban military presence was almost completely gone but they came back and by 2010 the Taliban were a major threat that took 100k American soldiers to defeat. But the defeat wasn't for long and by 2015 or so it was a stalemate with about 10k American soldiers. Trump brought the American force up to about 15k in 2018 but the stalemate continued.

Posted by Lord Garth 2021-08-15 00:59|| 2021-08-15 00:59|| Front Page Top

#2 How many of these vets want Americans to continue fighting for Afghans who won't fight for anything beyond 1200AD? The entire Afghan government and military was a con game to extract dollars.

The Afghans can now go back to what they know best, squabbling among themselves.

Posted by Pholuns Speresh8593 2021-08-15 01:37|| 2021-08-15 01:37|| Front Page Top

#3 How many of these vets want Americans to continue fighting for Afghans who won't fight for anything beyond 1200AD? The entire Afghan government and military was a con game to extract dollars.

A lot of those dollars will be filtered through the lobbying industry back to the politicians who voted for it.

Posted by badanov 2021-08-15 02:20|| 2021-08-15 02:20|| Front Page Top

#4 This horror results from the continuing American inability (and arrogant reluctance) to accept that Asia is no place for the lessons of the Reformation and post Industrial legalism.

Stay engaged and reap horror upon horror until Kingdom come. Literally.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-08-15 03:24|| 2021-08-15 03:24|| Front Page Top

#5 What did you expect? A culture that is corrupt as anything we have here in our major cities, states, and in the Swamp. Why would you die to defend that?

Remember the actions by the American command structure when they went after the two American personnel who hammered the Afghan base commander who was porking some poor boy in the adjacent room. It's all corrupt.

Hearts and Minds campaign again shows failure, but the people in authority will not give up on it, not that much different than the socialists who keep failing and failing and failing. "We'll get it right the next time."

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-08-15 07:13|| 2021-08-15 07:13|| Front Page Top

#6 Your friend had to die so that defense contractors could get that sweet, sweet money. Trillions.

Maybe begin by holding them accountable?

Posted by Slomorong Thraiger7030 2021-08-15 08:26|| 2021-08-15 08:26|| Front Page Top

#7 ...don't forget the pols who like thumping their chest to show how virtuous they were in nation building and bringing the people into the 21st Century.

Posted by Procopius2k 2021-08-15 09:51|| 2021-08-15 09:51|| Front Page Top

#8 I also blame the ROEs during the Afghan war for part of this failure.

Posted by Chris 2021-08-15 10:28|| 2021-08-15 10:28|| Front Page Top

#9
That Blessed sacrament of Geneva,
which elevates mortal minds
to watch, fixated on their TeeVah,
as demons impale behinds.

Perchance, to defend we may fight,
and the kingdoms of satan set alight,
but the fireteams need legals now
to tear their enemy to rinds.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-08-15 11:14|| 2021-08-15 11:14|| Front Page Top

#10 Maybe begin by holding them accountable?

There are so many things about this that piss me off it's hard to focus on just one, but at the top of my current list is the fact that not one person in government is going to lose his phoney-baloney job over this. They might randomly select a lance corporal and bust him down to PFC, but that's it. In fact, they'll probably create a special Afghan Panic Commendation Medal and hand it out to all concerned.

Posted by Matt 2021-08-15 11:31|| 2021-08-15 11:31|| Front Page Top

#11 ^ Afghan Panic Evacuation Medal?

Posted by Frank G 2021-08-15 12:06|| 2021-08-15 12:06|| Front Page Top

#12 Bush 43 owns a big piece of this...

Posted by NoMoreBS 2021-08-15 12:36|| 2021-08-15 12:36|| Front Page Top

#13 ^ Exactly. The design could be a two-star general in motion with the inscription "Feets don't fail me now."

Posted by Matt 2021-08-15 12:41|| 2021-08-15 12:41|| Front Page Top

#14 does Charlie Wilson come to mind...

Posted by 746 2021-08-15 13:00|| 2021-08-15 13:00|| Front Page Top

#15 #14 ^ Absolutely. The best of intentions can produce the worst of outcomes. Fun movie, though.

Posted by Matt 2021-08-15 13:08|| 2021-08-15 13:08|| Front Page Top

#16 This was/is/will be Islam against the West.

Posted by Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 2021-08-15 16:24|| 2021-08-15 16:24|| Front Page Top

#17 ^ Same people who closed down Christian churches over COVID won't do a thing against muzz.

Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-15 17:36|| 2021-08-15 17:36|| Front Page Top

#18 After 911 Bush should have GLASSED Afghanistan and Pakistan. For some reason the jerk tried to nation build. THE USA IS SHIT AT NATION BUILDING! It was stupid.

Then Saddam wanted to kill his dad. So he invaded.

He should have just taken out a massive $ hit order on Saddam.

All those lives ours and theirs wasted because or DC morons can't take the proper actions.

Nuff Said.

Posted by 3dc 2021-08-15 17:53|| 2021-08-15 17:53|| Front Page Top

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