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2022-10-30 Afghanistan
SIGAR: US Has Restarted Development Programs in Afghanistan
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Posted by trailing wife 2022-10-30 01:48|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 America enabled Afghanistan's corruption for years. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/america...
Aug 22, 2021 · As the SIGAR report concluded, “The United States contributed to the growth of corruption by injecting tens of billions of dollars into the Afghan economy, using flawed oversight....
Posted by Slavising Unineting5672 2022-10-30 09:21||   2022-10-30 09:21|| Front Page Top

#2 provided new funding for other programs focusing on poverty, hunger, malnutrition, economic stress, health care, agriculture, and education

How a Detroit Community Overcomes a Lack of City Services
Posted by Skidmark 2022-10-30 11:45||   2022-10-30 11:45|| Front Page Top

#3 Americaenabled Afghanistan's corruption for years. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/america...
Aug 22, 2021 · As the SIGAR report concluded, “The United States contributed to the growth of corruption by injecting tens of billions of dollars into the Afghan economy, using flawed oversight....
Posted by Slavising Unineting5672

Agree. You have no idea how bad it was and who participated...and no one cared...I often wonder - deliberate indifference or witting participation on our behalf?
Posted by Tennessee 2022-10-30 15:09||   2022-10-30 15:09|| Front Page Top

#4 The level of stupidity by our government is truly astonishing.
Posted by Chris 2022-10-30 15:11||   2022-10-30 15:11|| Front Page Top

#5 The restored reconstruction programs are an important step for trust-building and can help to reduce poverty and help in the health and with the Taliban.

Like a damn dog to its vomit.
Posted by Dron66046 2022-10-30 15:34||   2022-10-30 15:34|| Front Page Top

#6 Ref #4: The level of stupidity by our government is truly astonishing.

Borders on the mentally impaired.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-10-30 15:38||   2022-10-30 15:38|| Front Page Top

#7 Well they kicked our ass and now we have to pay some more
Posted by Graing Prince of the Faeries5517 2022-10-30 15:44||   2022-10-30 15:44|| Front Page Top

#8 If you liked Afghanistan, you’ll LOVE Ukraine.

$66 billion stolen and wasted.
$50 billion more, coming soon.
And then a cool trillion in “reconstruction” graft

What’s not to love?

Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 17:54||   2022-10-30 17:54|| Front Page Top

#9 You sound envious. How Russian of you.
Posted by Crereque Clusogum7898 2022-10-30 20:23||   2022-10-30 20:23|| Front Page Top

#10 How stupid of you.

I don’t like having my pocket picked. I don’t know what country you’re from, but I’m American and I’m sick of little neocon assholes wasting hundreds of billions or even trillions of OUR MONEY on their stupid wars in regions where we have nothing at stake.

That money is being stolen. If you believe that it’s for “defending democracy” then you must be as gullible as you come across here.
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 20:46||   2022-10-30 20:46|| Front Page Top

#11 Best money spent in years. You Russian fucks have royally screwed yourselves. Depleted 60 years of arms production in six months, wasting a $billion per day, brought the democratic west closer than anytime in the past 30 years and royally flushed your best hard currency market. Oh, and your "little brothers" hate your fucking guts for the 3 generations. Bravo, geniuses.

Wondering how many "republics" Muscovy will break into this time.
Posted by Crereque Clusogum7898 2022-10-30 21:36||   2022-10-30 21:36|| Front Page Top

#12  You Russian fucks

Quit being a douche

This is dipshit Biden’s forever war. We’re tired of you Ukrainian assholes dragging us into your insane war.

Not our problem. Run along now.
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 21:41||   2022-10-30 21:41|| Front Page Top

#13 And you are a liar, so a typical Russian.
Posted by Crereque Clusogum7898 2022-10-30 21:50||   2022-10-30 21:50|| Front Page Top

#14 1.) The US isn't shipping pallets of cash into Ukraine. The "aid money" is being given to US arms manufacturers to replace the older stocks sent to Ukraine.

2.) The US promised to help protect Ukraine when they gave up their nukes. We are honoring that agreement. They didn't attack Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine. Promise kept.

3.) While I will be the first to agree that we need to stop wasting billions in areas that have no strategic value to us (seriously, 20 years in Afghanistan!?!!?) the value of sending weapons to Ukraine is to make sure the Russian army dies there. Putie-pie would have kept going into the Baltic states if Ukraine fell easily. I would much rather arm Ukraine and let them fight and die while killing Russians then have NATO drawn into the fight. 'Cuz NATO would whoop Russian ass. And that means the only thing they have to defend themselves is nukes. Have another Javelin Ukraine.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 21:58||   2022-10-30 21:58|| Front Page Top

#15 The US isn't shipping pallets of cash into Ukraine.

Yes we are. You’re ignorant. Try FIVE BILLION A MONTH, every month, into that sewer of corruption called the Ukrainian “government.”

If you think that the biggest thieves in the northern hemisphere aren’t stealing most of that $5B per month, you must be one of those Biden-Fetterman 2924 loons
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 22:07||   2022-10-30 22:07|| Front Page Top

#16 Yes we are. You’re ignorant.

And you are either a moron, or a Russian stooge. Read the bills. Most of the money is either staying in the US and about 1/3 is credit for nations like Norway/Sweden for Ukraine to get weapons from.

So inhale furious amount of Putie-dick and choke on it.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 22:11||   2022-10-30 22:11|| Front Page Top

#17 The US isn't shipping pallets of cash into Ukraine.

Yes we are. You’re ignorant. Try FIVE BILLION A MONTH, every month, into that sewer of corruption called the Ukrainian “government.”

We’re making the entire payroll and funding the entire operations of one of the shittiest, most corrupt governments on the planet. Look it up if you don’t believe me. $5B a month.

If you think that the biggest thieves in the northern hemisphere aren’t stealing most of that $5B per month, you must be one of those “Biden-Fetterman 2024” loons

I get that you’re obsessed with Russia but you’re living in the last century. They don’t threaten us in this century.

They’re not a peer competitor— as you never tire of telling the world, in your tedious and endless rants…
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 22:11||   2022-10-30 22:11|| Front Page Top

#18 Putie-dick

Brilliant riposte.

This is what the neocons and the rest of the Ukrainians’ little bitches are reduced to.

Now we know why DoD furloughed you.
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 22:14||   2022-10-30 22:14|| Front Page Top

#19 Considering you haven't provided one bit of evidence on why we should listen to you... and spouted Kremlin propaganda line by line... and are pretty much ignorant of everything in the conflict...

I name you Russian paid troll.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 22:16||   2022-10-30 22:16|| Front Page Top

#20 1.) The US isn't shipping pallets of cash into Ukraine. The "aid money" is being given to US arms manufacturers to replace the older stocks sent to Ukraine. Posted by: DarthVader
Nope, Biden is supporting the entire Ukraine government structure.

I would much rather arm Ukraine and let them fight and die while killing Russians then have NATO drawn into the fight. 'Cuz NATO would whoop Russian ass. Posted by: DarthVader
NATO couldn't fight it's way out of a wet paper bag w/o the US.
Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2022-10-30 22:24||   2022-10-30 22:24|| Front Page Top

#21 I already trashed your arguments. The cleverest argument you can summon is the lefty troll’s favorite comeback — like a five year-old screaming, “You poopyhead!!”

Here’s why Americans are sick of this foolish forever war:

It’s a complete waste of our money.
We have nothing at stake there.
The only Americans with anything on the line are the Biden’s and other corrupt assholes in DC. AMERICA has nothing at stake.
Russia doesn’t threaten us.
Ukraine is not our ally. We owe those corrupt little fucks nothing.
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 22:25||   2022-10-30 22:25|| Front Page Top

#22 Sadly, Russia would like to threaten us as they used to.

Sadly, Ukraine is not simon-pure.

Sadly, the American government is even more full of short-sighted idiots at the moment — here’s hoping the elections of 2022 and 2024 enable enough circus monkeys will be cleared out to make a difference.

Is disagreement possible here without name-calling, or is name-calling the point?


Posted by trailing wife 2022-10-30 22:34||   2022-10-30 22:34|| Front Page Top

#23 NATO couldn't fight it's way out of a wet paper bag w/o the US

Depends on the scenario. I offer this which will be on tomorrow's Rantburg.

NATO is very capable for defense.. which is what it was designed for. War of aggression eh... not so much. NATO members that have been to the middle east have usually been praised by the US forces there. Poland and the Danes were very good and professional soldiers in my experience. Wouldn't want to fight them on their land.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 22:36||   2022-10-30 22:36|| Front Page Top

#24 or is name-calling the point?

For Russian trolls it is.

As for Mr. Unvaxed... that poster has been around a while and definitely wants to engage in debate. So spot on and let's get to it lad!
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 22:40||   2022-10-30 22:40|| Front Page Top

#25 Trailing Wife,

It’s impossible to point out basic facts without being subjected to the same retarded taunts that the left flung at Trump. Putin-this, Putin-that.

Never mind that Trump’s Russia policy was just right: balanced, tough but respectful, measured, never provoking Russia. For that he was called “Putin’s c0ck-holster” — the same kind of embarrassingly stupid nonsense we get from “DarthVader” and the other pseudo-experts here.

You’d think this site was The Daily Kos, given the reflexive, retarded bullshit that the pseudo-experts fling anytime anyone points out the corruption and foolishness of the neocons’ and Joe Biden’s latest forever war.
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 22:41||   2022-10-30 22:41|| Front Page Top

#26 Russian, your concern trolling gives you away. It's not how an Americans think, certainly not patriotic Americans. Ask your bosses for a better troll script. Better yet, find productive work, such as Volgograd sewer maintenance.
Posted by Crereque Clusogum7898 2022-10-30 22:43||   2022-10-30 22:43|| Front Page Top

#27 Quit being a douche.

The lady told you to stuff the name-calling. Mind your manners.
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 22:48||   2022-10-30 22:48|| Front Page Top

#28 Considering you just appeared here....

Parrot Russian Propaganda line for line...

Dismiss and insult long term posters...

Only now trying to get in with the moderators...

yeah... Still a paid Russian Propagandist.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 22:52||   2022-10-30 22:52|| Front Page Top

#29 Russian troll, your shtick was worn out by April, just like your army.
Posted by Crereque Clusogum7898 2022-10-30 22:53||   2022-10-30 22:53|| Front Page Top

#30 It's not how an Americans think

Fetterman, try again. Sound the words out in your head before you write. Then type the words s-l-o-w-l-y

You can do it.
Dr Chen says you’re 100%!
Now there’s a good boy
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 22:53||   2022-10-30 22:53|| Front Page Top

#31 “DarthVader” — you just can’t quit, can you?

Did you read what she wrote?

How old are you?
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 22:56||   2022-10-30 22:56|| Front Page Top

#32 Try FIVE BILLION A MONTH

Try again, troll.
Posted by Crereque Clusogum7898 2022-10-30 22:57||   2022-10-30 22:57|| Front Page Top

#33 Old enough to remember how to kill Soviets. And I didn't insult you in the last few posts. Unlike now.

Dickhead.

Now go away and let the adults talk. Russian Troll.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 22:58||   2022-10-30 22:58|| Front Page Top

#34 “Poopyhead!!”

🤡
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 22:59||   2022-10-30 22:59|| Front Page Top

#35 “Poopyhead!!”

Well, if you are man enough to admit what you are... who am I to judge?
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 23:00||   2022-10-30 23:00|| Front Page Top

#36 Must be tough working the third shift in a shitty internet troll job in a shitty country quickly imploding. I would feel pity for you, but you serve people that are destroying your young men and country. Find work that doesn't destroy your soul.
Posted by Crereque Clusogum7898 2022-10-30 23:06||   2022-10-30 23:06|| Front Page Top

#37 McConnell and the other GOP cucks are going to spend $50 billion “so Ukraine can make it through the end of the year,” as one of their aides put it.

$50 billion. For two months.

This is how we get up to a trillion dollars in a forever war. First it’s a billion, then $10 billion, then $66 billion, and then we’re told that we need to fund their entire government.

Is Ukraine now one of those 54 states Biden referred to yesterday?

Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 23:10||   2022-10-30 23:10|| Front Page Top

#38 The sum of the three Ukraine supplementals totals $66.1 billion, but not all this money goes to Ukraine. Billions of dollars have gone toward other items like replenishing US military stocks, deterrence measures in Eastern Europe outside Ukraine, and energy-related issues. For example, so far $14 billion has gone to replenish US stocks of equipment, $9.7 billion to US European Command to increase the military presence in Eastern Europe, and $2 billion to address the increase of energy costs related to the war in Ukraine. The billions of dollars allocated for military assistance to Ukraine never leave the United States. Despite the perception that opponents of American aid to Ukraine create, funds for military support are not wired to Ukrainian government bank accounts. Instead, the US president uses the appropriated funds for a drawdown of military equipment to be sent to Ukraine. For the US to give funds to the Ukrainian government, like the $13.2 billion for the Economic Support Fund, the secretary of state and administrator of USAID have to jointly submit a report to the relevant congressional committees on the proposed uses of these funds.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 23:15||   2022-10-30 23:15|| Front Page Top

#39 How can their government operations possibly require even $5 billion per month?

Ukraine’s entire GDP in the best of times was only $180 billion. Does their government really require one third of the nation’s entire GDP?

I know you’ve been booted out of government work for a long spell, but Jesus, just do the math.

There is no fucking way that this kleptocracy could possibly require $60 billion per year just to keep the lights on (no pun intended).

They’re obviously fleecing us. Billions a month are being stolen. It’s what they do.
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 23:18||   2022-10-30 23:18|| Front Page Top

#40 Jesus, just do the math.

The math adds up... unlike your grasp of English.

Now if you want to make an argument about how adding to the US deficit isn't in our best interest or paying out to the military industrial complex isn't in the US's best interest there is an argument to be made for that. Several long term posters have argued as such and I am inclined to agree on a few points they make. But you are little more than a poo flinging Russian monkey with your posts. Please strive to do better.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 23:22||   2022-10-30 23:22|| Front Page Top

#41 Congress Passes Funding Stopgap Bill To Avoid Ukrainian Government Shutdown
Sep 29, 2022

WASHINGTON, D.C. — In the nick of time, Congress has passed a bipartisan $12 billion funding bill, narrowly avoiding a Ukrainian government shutdown.

"As elected representatives chosen by the people, it is our solemn duty, as outlined in the Constitution, to fully fund the Ukrainian government at all times," said Senator Chuck Schumer. "We humbly accept this sacred responsibility to send billions to Ukraine, who will send it to Raytheon, who will send it to super PACs, who will help us get elected. It's the right thing to do."

President Zelensky took a few moments in between magazine glamour shoots to thank America for her generosity. "We promise we will put this vast, vast wealth to good use," he said while checking the time on his new Girard-Perregaux Quasar Light Tourbillon wristwatch. "We know that Americans get up and go to work every day hoping that some of their money is used to kill Russians. I'm proud to be making their dreams come true."

Congress estimates the stopgap bill will keep Ukraine funded for at least two weeks, or until their super PACs run out of money.
Posted by Thumper Smith5701 2022-10-30 23:33||   2022-10-30 23:33|| Front Page Top

#42 Darth, there is a lot of double accounting in the publicized figures. Makes politicians sound like they are doing something. Send weapons to Ukraine (an accounting entry) then replace that stock (another accounting entry). You've just double counted.

Ukraine has (or will receive) about $18 billion US weapons so far. In addition, the US recently agreed to support the Ukr gov budget with $1.5B/month. So did the Europeans. The Ukrainians are spending more than 60% of gov revenues on the war, tax collection is down, and need help to support the population and rebuilding.

BTW, the US fed gov alone spends $1 billion every 5 seconds. $66 or $600 billion is a bargain to be rid of Russian threat for the next 2-3 generations. Better yet, maybe the Russian people will see their coming collapse as an opportunity to become a civilized country.
Posted by Crereque Clusogum7898 2022-10-30 23:37||   2022-10-30 23:37|| Front Page Top

#43 or is name-calling the point?

Monkey brain stuff. It feels good. You get an endorphin rush from hooting and throwing poo to drive away enemies. Or name-calling on the interwebs.
It feels good, but it short-circuits higher brain functions like reason and analysis. Consider it as a sign that the poster's cerebral cortex has left the building.
Posted by SteveS 2022-10-30 23:39||   2022-10-30 23:39|| Front Page Top

#44 ...there is a lot of double accounting in the publicized figures. Makes politicians sound like they are doing something.

Yeah I would agree. I trust the current batch as far as I can throw their collective asses... but they do have to report what they do and the video evidence from Ukraine is showing they are at least delivering what they promise. So yay I guess.

Ukraine is fucked from an economic stance for the foreseeable future. Russia has made sure of that. As long as they are willing to fight and grind down the Russian military, I'm happy to have my government pay for their weapons and rebuilding.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 23:42||   2022-10-30 23:42|| Front Page Top

#45 You jokers can’t even agree on your numbers.

Which means the Ukraine-grifting is even worse than you can imagine.

You frankly have no idea where and how the cash is sloshing around. Neither does anyone outside of the Bug Guy and the rest of the Biden Crime Family.

This is the Iraq clusterfuck all over again: billions looted in broad daylight. And without even a Jerry Bremer equivalent on the scene to at least apply triage to stop the dollar-hemorrhaging.
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 23:45||   2022-10-30 23:45|| Front Page Top

#46 S/b neither does anyone outside The Big Guy

Bill Gates is the Bug Guy — crickets, to be exact:

Take a Look Inside a Cricket Farm…Which Is Where Your Food Will Come From Soon
BY ATHENA THORNE
AUGUST 17, 2022

It’s astonishing how, by the time we normal folk first hear of a new Globalist Socialist initiative, it turns out there’s already a significant amount of infrastructure in place. Take eating bugs, for example. Did you know that there are currently sizable cricket farms in many parts of the world, including Canada and the United States? Or that cricket flour is already used in some foods?
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 23:50||   2022-10-30 23:50|| Front Page Top

#47 Which means the Ukraine-grifting is even worse than you can imagine.

Oh so that must mean that Ukraine is about to be overrun and lost to Russia?

Oh wait.. they have successfully mounted 3 counter attacks and regained hundreds of square kilometers of ground...

The video evidence suggests otherwise, Mr. Russian troll.

Oh .... and how is that S-300/400/Pantsir doing against HIMARS rockets?

Yeah... not great huh?
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 23:50||   2022-10-30 23:50|| Front Page Top

#48 Bill Gates is the Bug Guy — crickets, to be exact:

I'm just gonna assume you are pulling shit out of your ass at this point. This has nothing to do with what we have been discussing.
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 23:55||   2022-10-30 23:55|| Front Page Top

#49 so that must mean that Ukraine is about to be overrun and lost to Russia?

Not our problem.
Ukraine is not our ally.
Russia controlling this or that Russian-majority eastern province is of no importance whatsoever to us.
Posted by Black Charlie Jineque5437 2022-10-30 23:56||   2022-10-30 23:56|| Front Page Top

#50 Ukraine is not our ally.

Nope. It isn't.

But we made a promise to help protect it if it gave up its nukes. We are fullfilling that promise. Anything else troll?
Posted by DarthVader 2022-10-30 23:58||   2022-10-30 23:58|| Front Page Top

#51 Have you seen Russian revenues lately? It is collapsing on all fronts (gas, oil, mineral exports, import tariffs) while spending is exploding (those mobiks and 50 year old North Korean weapons don't come free). There is no possibility for Russia to borrow money nor does it have any friends and allies that will help.

Oh wait.. they have successfully mounted 3 counter attacks and regained hundreds of square kilometers of ground

Today was a bad day for the Russian Army. They lost nearly 1000.
Posted by Crereque Clusogum7898 2022-10-30 23:59||   2022-10-30 23:59|| Front Page Top

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