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2023-08-10 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Moment Utah man Craig Deleeuw Robertson's home is surrounded by FBI agents who hurled a smoke bomb before shooting him dead after he posted 'credible' Joe Biden death threats

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Posted by Skidmark 2023-08-10 05:32|| || Front Page|| [19 views ] Top

#1 Sorry I have to agree, he crossed the line once he threaten the president.

However, given the way it was handled, I seem to get the feeling the outcome was preordained.

QUESTION:
Back in 2017 CBS news reported "...Threats against President Trump for his first six months in office are tracking about 6 to 8t per day, the new director of the U.S. Secret Service said on Thursday, CBS News' Pat Milton reports."

Kathy Griffin's posting photo and video showing her holding Mr. Trump's head and encouragement of others to take action never lead to an arrest.

How many arrests, or confrontations did we see?

I only remember 1.
A crazy guy outside the WH gates.

Posted by NN2N1 2023-08-10 08:08|| 2023-08-10 08:08|| Front Page Top

#2 They dropped someone two days ago in Albuquerque prior to Brandon visiting yesterday. No immediate explanation.

Posted by Procopius2k 2023-08-10 08:08|| 2023-08-10 08:08|| Front Page Top

#3 Hey, who's that goat legged fellow ridin' Biden?

Posted by Rex Mundi 2023-08-10 08:42|| 2023-08-10 08:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Killed while resisting arrest. Of course.

Posted by ed in texas 2023-08-10 09:06|| 2023-08-10 09:06|| Front Page Top

#5 And where is Lon Horiuchi?

Posted by Jerens Black9355 2023-08-10 09:27|| 2023-08-10 09:27|| Front Page Top

#6 Glenn Beck interviewed Craig Robertson's friend from Craig's church about Craig being shot to death by the FBI on his radio show this morning about 6:30 AM (about two hours ago).
It sounded like a setup so the FBI could have an excuse to take drastic action against him.
The neighbor's are absolutely traumatized by the FBI actions if that was their intended effect.

Glen talked about de-escalation to help save the like of a man who was not an extremist according to the interviewee.
Craig's house was raided like they did to pro life activist Mark Houck holding him at gun point so they could terrorize his whole family.
The way Craig was killed by the FBI should be the top news story,
but for the Maui fire with all of the deaths.
Look for the media to spin this as one of those white supremacists threats that Biden always talks about as the biggest terrorism threat just like those who rioted on J6.
This is smoke screen for all of the terrorist crossing the southern border.

Posted by boomerc 2023-08-10 11:26|| 2023-08-10 11:26|| Front Page Top

Robertson right or wrong. Innocent until proven guilty. Surround the private residence, C4 the door, 'take out' the heavily armed citizen, and only one story is told.

Unarmed suspect arrested discreetly at Walmart or a gas station, bag-over-head (prisoner snatch) style, might be a different story. Private residence, likely no security cams. Again, one story told.

Lots of worldwide media 'happy snaps' of suspect's AR collection, always a plus. On-site LE briefing (foto 18 of 22) to late arrivers and smiling police cadets ("....and no shi* there I was").

It's going to backfire on these foks one day. Only a matter of time.

Again, nutcase or presidential assassin, 'innocent' until proven guilty in a court of law.

Posted by Besoeker 2023-08-10 11:46|| 2023-08-10 11:46|| Front Page Top

#8 #7 Exactly. If what he did/said was so terrible it could come out in court.

Posted by Cesare 2023-08-10 11:54|| 2023-08-10 11:54|| Front Page Top

#9 Trying to follow the RAB handbook but someone got ahead of themselves - how could they skip the return to the scene? Have they said how many rounds of bullet were recovered?

Posted by bman911 2023-08-10 12:21|| 2023-08-10 12:21|| Front Page Top

#10 6:15 AM raid, with flash-bangs and Armored Vehicle, full tactical gear and automatic weapons. Given the history of this guy's long term rantings online, his reported disability (neighbors described him as frail and walking with a cane), and his known extensive gun ownership, a disorienting early morning raid seems a poor choice to avoid a lethal reaction from the target.
Clearly he behaved stupidly, and invited a response for his obvious criminal threats to public officials. The unknown for me is if a local, more familiar and trusted law enforcement approach in a less threatening manner might have been the better choice. It almost feels like someone wanted to "make and example", the classic Waco mistake.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2023-08-10 12:57|| 2023-08-10 12:57|| Front Page Top

#11 If the guy was black all the usual suspects would be screaming bloody murder.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2023-08-10 13:34|| 2023-08-10 13:34|| Front Page Top

#12 I wonder how many of Robertson’s guns FBI agents have stolen?

Posted by Xyz 2023-08-10 22:09|| 2023-08-10 22:09|| Front Page Top

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