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2005-07-30 Southeast Asia

Indonesian Muslim Body Forbids Liberal Islam

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Posted by Fred 2005-07-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 10 days ago Indonesia banned the Ahmadiyah sect of islam. Not pure enough for the legendary muslim moderates.

Posted by ed 2005-07-30 00:20|| 2005-07-30 00:20|| Front Page Top

#2 Ah, the nuclear target list just keeps growing by the hour.

Hmmm....how many Trident subs do we have?

Posted by Ebbavins Chomoth3961 2005-07-30 00:32|| 2005-07-30 00:32|| Front Page Top

#3 EC - Enough.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2005-07-30 00:36|| http://www.ariellestjohndesigns.com]">[http://www.ariellestjohndesigns.com] 2005-07-30 00:36|| Front Page Top

#4 Q. Why are there no major Secular organizations in Indonesia?

A. Because Indo leaders, like the dictators of the Pakistan terror entity, get massive foreign aid from suicidal Secular states, notwithstanding their oppression of Seculars. No bend; no break.

Posted by Vlad the Muslim Impaler 2005-07-30 01:37|| 2005-07-30 01:37|| Front Page Top

#5 Although I must admit watching Indonesia with bated breath over the past couple of years to see which way the wind would blow, I continue to have great hope and expectation for the country, and stand by what Iâve said before -- like at this link

The posted articleâs claim that Indonesiaâs top Islamic council was the one issuing a religious edict is quite sensational, but I believe also quite untrue. The Indonesian Ulemas Council is going after groups like the Liberal Islam Network, precisely because they canât compete with groups like the Liberal Islam Network. Most Indonesians like the ideas promoted by Liberal Islam, like Women should Escape from the Circle of Oppression, Religion Must Benefit Humanity, and Renaissance and Religious Reformation.

The stated goals and activities of groups like the Liberal Islam Network must scare the daylights out of groups like the Ulemas Council -- so the fatwa . . . If groups like the Liberal Islam Network succeed, the totalitarian days of the sheiks, mullahs, fiqh councils, etc. are over.

If authoritarian, totalitarian Islam is to experience a reformation like what took place during authoritarian, totalitarian Christendom, it will be through people and groups like those found at Liberal Islam Network.

Posted by cingold 2005-07-30 03:29|| 2005-07-30 03:29|| Front Page Top

#6 People keep hoping for an Islamic reformation, but I believe that this IS the Islamic reformation. I am more conviced every day that this is going to end badly for the world - and especially for Islam.

Posted by SR-71 2005-07-30 09:56|| 2005-07-30 09:56|| Front Page Top

#7 EC - Enough

I agree, Barbara.

Posted by too true 2005-07-30 10:00|| 2005-07-30 10:00|| Front Page Top

#8 AAAH, the Religion of Peace who's motto is "Believe It or Else."

Posted by GK 2005-07-30 10:29|| 2005-07-30 10:29|| Front Page Top

#9 SR-71.... I've oft thought the same thing. I hope like hell we're wrong. But this might very well be the regeneration of muzzie thought. :<

Posted by Shipman 2005-07-30 11:15|| 2005-07-30 11:15|| Front Page Top

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