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2008-09-13 Fifth Column

Cut and Paste: ABC badly distorted key points made by Palin

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Posted by lotp 2008-09-13 12:47|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Complete transcript of that first interview is here

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2008-09-13 14:33|| 2008-09-13 14:33|| Front Page Top

#2 From a commenter at Newsbuster:

Journalistic Ethics?
September 13, 2008 - 07:58 ET by SouthernRoots

The Constitution grants special protections to "the Press". This is because a free and open exchange of ideas is essential to our form of government. This also gives "the Press" a responsibilty to be the watchdogs of government.

When the press become politicized to a particular viewpoint, they stop presenting both sides of an issue and they lean only towards the views they share with one party. When they do this, they become an extension of the party rather than an independent reporter.

From the Professional Journalists Code of Ethics, how does this editing stack up?

* Test the accuracy of information from all sources and exercise care to avoid inadvertent error. Deliberate distortion is never permissible.

* Make certain that headlines, news teases and promotional material, photos, video, audio, graphics, sound bites and quotations do not misrepresent. They should not oversimplify or highlight incidents out of context.

* Never distort the content of news photos or video. Image enhancement for technical clarity is always permissible. Label montages and photo illustrations.

* Examine their own cultural values and avoid imposing those values on others.

* Support the open exchange of views, even views they find repugnant

* Distinguish between advocacy and news reporting. Analysis and commentary should be labeled and not misrepresent fact or context.

* Abide by the same high standards to which they hold others.

I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. - J.B. Books (John Wayne)

Posted by Sherry">Sherry 2008-09-13 14:39|| 2008-09-13 14:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Reagan won the Cold War? His European missile initiative led to overwhelming Western European opposition. Soviet Communism collapsed when ruling class practises were exposed in the 1986 Chernobyl fiasco. Gorbachev tried to save same with Perestroika and Glasnost. Reagan wasn't President when East Berliners began walking through the Berlin Wall. As for "Reaganomics," recovery didn't begin until the 5th year of his presidency. In fact, in face of failure his ran in 1984 on a "Stay the Course" platform. Sorry to disappoint, but Reagan was not a neo-conservative. McCain is one.

Posted by Open Arms 2008-09-13 18:02|| 2008-09-13 18:02|| Front Page Top

#4 Yes, despite your attempts at revisionist history, Reagan did win the Cold War. The Russians spent themselves into oblivion (Anyone with a brain could figure out their economy couldn't support the required spending) and Perestroika and Glasnost were about keeping up more than opening up.

Posted by Mike N. 2008-09-13 18:20|| 2008-09-13 18:20|| Front Page Top

#5 One thing we can agree on, Reagan wasn't a Neo-conservative. He was a conservative. Bad news for you, OA, McCain is also.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-09-13 18:40|| 2008-09-13 18:40|| Front Page Top

#6 As for "Reaganomics," recovery didn't begin until the 5th year of his presidency. In fact, in face of failure his ran in 1984 on a "Stay the Course" platform. Sorry to disappoint, but Reagan was not a neo-conservative. McCain is one

Wrong. Read American history: The "Stay the course" theme was brought out for the 1982 midterm electons. Reagan may have picked up on that in 1984, maybe not, but primarly that was the main theme for the midterms.

The Reagan recovery began in December 1983 after a huge rally by Wall Street.

The only disappoinment I see is that you haven't gotten one fact right since you started posting here.

Posted by badanov 2008-09-13 19:00|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org] 2008-09-13 19:00|| Front Page Top

#7 Open Arms

I'm curious where this guy is from. Not in the sense of "let's hunt him for sport", but just wondering whether he is a euro-loon or homegrown.

Posted by SteveS 2008-09-13 19:18|| 2008-09-13 19:18|| Front Page Top

#8 "Not in the sense of 'let's hunt him for sport'"

Too bad, Steve. ;-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-09-13 19:50|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-09-13 19:50|| Front Page Top

#9 I was on active duty with the Air Force during the entire Reagan era, working in imagery intelligence. Signs that Russia was coming apart began to appear as early as 1985, and by 1989, it was pretty significant. There were a dozen different and overlapping reasons for that collapse, but Reagan's insistence on having a military that could overpower the Russians, if necessary, certainly contributed.

It would be purely a guess, but I'd say Russia began to decline internally as early as 1975. It wasn't noticeable at the time, but bits and pieces began to appear once the Russians invaded Afghanistan. By 1988, it was all downhill. Collapse and the disolution of the Soviet Empire didn't surprise me that it happened, but the extent of it (as well as some limitations) did. No matter how much money Putin gets from selling Russian oil and gas, military equipment, or drugs, they will never again be able to rebuild what they lost in 1991.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2008-09-13 21:15|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2008-09-13 21:15|| Front Page Top

#10 "they will never again be able to rebuild what they lost in 1991"

GOOD!

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-09-13 21:22|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-09-13 21:22|| Front Page Top

#11 His European missile initiative led to overwhelming Western European opposition.

That's a feature, not a bug - Evil Empire rattled them and he told the CIA to use some fresh thinking........

Posted by anonymous2u 2008-09-13 23:03|| 2008-09-13 23:03|| Front Page Top

#12 My FAVE cartoon - which I have when they reprinted it when he died - asking Gorby - "Light?"

pressing the button and ZAP - Star Wars.........

Posted by anonymous2u 2008-09-13 23:05|| 2008-09-13 23:05|| Front Page Top

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