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Posted by Steve White 2004-09-19 1:30:36 AM|| || Front Page|| [11 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 The Nation *spit* sucks like an F5 on a bender. This nest of vipers wouldn't recognize honor if it bit them back. The rag of propaganda whores and socialist apologists, it approaches truly great absurdity and parody when it tosses out words such as "we" and "our", pfeh. I look forward to the day when I can frog-march its staff and true believers to the border - East or West would suit.
Posted by .com 2004-09-19 2:06:33 AM||   2004-09-19 2:06:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Frog-marching's too mild for these traitors. They and their intellectual ancestors have been trying to destroy this country for the past sixty years, and post-9/11, smelled OUR blood in the water. More and more I find myself hoping that, after GWB wins big in November, the LLL decide to get violent. This society is WELL overdue for a housecleaning. Have faith...there are many more of us than of them, and we are much better armed.
Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2004-09-19 2:27:07 AM||   2004-09-19 2:27:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 They and their intellectual ancestors have been trying to destroy this country for the past sixty years

Actually The Nation started publishing in the 1860s, around the start of the First Communist International.
Posted by badanov  2004-09-19 7:52:26 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif]  2004-09-19 7:52:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Kerry says he wants 40,000 more troops, just in case. Old generals doubt Congress would pay for it, given the deficits.

Most voters doubt Kerry would actually do anything but reduce the defenses and national security of the United States.

Iraq is Vietnam standing in the mirror.

You wish. When we passed the 1,000 death mark, you could almost hear the left mourn that more were not dead.

John Kerry, if he had it in him, could lead a national teach-in--re-educate those who have forgotten or prettified their memories but especially inform younger voters who weren't around for the national shame a generation ago.

Yeah, man. We could bring a bag and a bong, pass it around with a little help from our friends, listen to Hendrix...

John Kerry is the national shame along with the left who endangered US troops during Viet Nam.

Bush won big back when he got Iraq off the front pages and evening news with his phony hand-off of sovereignty and his chest-thumping convention. But then his opponents--the hostile insurgents in Iraq--struck back brilliantly like all the dead Viet Cong during the Tet Offensive and managed to put the war story back in the lead on the news (might we expect from them an "October surprise" of deadlier proportions?).

If ever there was any doubt about where The Nation's loyalties lie, it is gone. They want the enemy to kill Americans, and it matters little to them if they are in New York or in Bahgdad.

During Vietnam, the process of giving up on such wishful thinking took many years.

You must mean deliberately poisioning support for the war.

The breaking point came in 1968, when a majority turned against the war. LBJ withdrew from running for re-election.

No, LBJ would not cave in to his party's left wing over the war.

Nixon won that year with his "secret plan" to win the peace. The war continued for another five years. US casualties doubled.

Let's see, Tet was just finished in Spring 1968 and LBJ decided not to run because the party was taken over by its leftwing. Maybe our enemies became emboldened by the left's perfidy? Maybe the left is responsible for those increases in combat deaths. I believe they were and NVA General Giap admitted as much.


BTW: Nice fisking, Steve.
Posted by badanov  2004-09-19 8:22:08 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif]  2004-09-19 8:22:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 If elected, he faces only bad choices--bomb the bejeezus out of Iraq, as Nixon bombed Vietnam and Cambodia, or bug out under the cover of artful lies. The one thing Bush's famous "resolve" cannot achieve is success at war. Never mind, he aims to win the election instead.

The whole article was just too annoying, but I liked this quote. So if Kerry gets elected, what's he going to do? How's he going to solve this? The previous paragraph said his lame solution was to get Germany and France involved. They already gave him the middle finger. So, seriously, what's Kerry going to do? Is he going to send his two new Army divisions in? Where and when's he going to get the people trained and ready to accomplish this? Will he use the Guard and Reserves in the short-term, like old, scary, secretive Dubya? Please.

Make these assclowns go away with their negative, no-solution spewing garbage. All they do is sit and commiserate over their failed beliefs and candidate.
Posted by nada 2004-09-19 9:53:58 AM||   2004-09-19 9:53:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 bad / nada - it is rather amusing, heh... If we took him at his most-often stated position, the one that he thinks makes him look tough but anti-war (don't delve too deeply, it's a nuance thingy), picked out of the mass of positions spewed thusfar...

Skeery wants 40,000 new troops at the same time that he says he'd bring everyone home from the hot-spots where they actually do what they were trained to do - in a good cause, but he'd leave those stationed in Cold War bases, twiddling their thumbs and shining their boots, which he would keep there because, well, because it's good for the economies of those foreign leaders he likes / wants to suck up to.

He doesn't say what the returnees would do when they all got back. Sit in their barracks, I guess. Studying their navels. Perhaps they'd get sensitivity training. Or French lessons.

Right. Makes sense to me.
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Posted by .com 2004-09-19 10:11:43 AM||   2004-09-19 10:11:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 .com,

All I can say is it's pretty bad when "madTV" makes fun of John sKerry. There was a skit on last night where he was flip-flopping on who got the plane tickets (between him and Edwards) to the next destination in "The Amazing Presidential Race." Not the best show, but this was pretty good satire.

Oh yeah, and your comments are right on. I couldn't believe (well, yes I could) he went against Dubya's future policy of bringing back the soldiers from these archaic Cold War stations. His campaign strategy: wait for a Dubya policy, and go against it. Then go against it again, so he's right back where Dubya started.

My apologies for skewing slightly off the original topic, but I couldn't help it.
Posted by nada 2004-09-19 10:58:25 AM||   2004-09-19 10:58:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Lol - sorry I missed it! Never, at least in my lifetime, has there been a more clueless absurdity posing as a major party candidate for President. I wish I had confidence that stupidity and cluelessness wasn't endemic - here and world-wide. Sigh. I'm not.
Posted by .com 2004-09-19 11:05:32 AM||   2004-09-19 11:05:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 "Never, at least in my lifetime, has there been a more clueless absurdity posing as a major party candidate for President."

Sorry to say, I think you're right-- though Mondale, as an absurdity, was a pretty close second to Kerry and AlGore a not-so-distant 3rd.

As for this noxious piece of defeatist tripe in The Nation, I can never quite make up my mind: are people like William Greider simply stupid and hysterical? Or are they devious, left-wing totalitarians hiding behind a "peace" philosophy?

If the former, they need to be slapped, HARD, to shock them out of their blubbering ninnitude. If the latter, I'm in favor of just hauling them outside and shooting them in the back of the head.

ALL of them.
Posted by Dave D. 2004-09-19 11:45:24 AM||   2004-09-19 11:45:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 
Never, at least in my lifetime, has there been a more clueless absurdity posing as a major party candidate for President.
Agreed.

As I commented on LGF this morning:

Kerry's has got to be the most monumentally stupid and inept campaign in the history of the US, and possibly the world.

Pass the popcorn. :-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-09-19 2:34:58 PM||   2004-09-19 2:34:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 The Nation *spit* sucks like an F5 on a bender.

Sucks in more ways than one. Upon reading that first sentence, any competent editor would've sent that article back to Grieder in a ziploc bag (preferably one that used to hold a tuna-fish sandwich).
Posted by Pappy 2004-09-19 3:11:09 PM||   2004-09-19 3:11:09 PM|| Front Page Top

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