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2025-08-14 Great White North
The excuses get more ridiculous: Toronto film fest nixes Oct. 7 doc screening, cites Hamas ownership of massacre clips
[IsraelTimes] Organizers say filmmakers didn’t legally clear footage, also cite ‘threat of disruption’; Sa’ar: This festival would have asked Hitler for approval to use Auschwitz footage.

Imagine the Nuremberg Trials refusing Nazi footage because they didn’t get Goebbels to sign a waiver.
Counterpoint:
Hamas livestreamed its massacre to the world – that’s public domain

This morning:
Toronto film fest CEO denies Oct. 7 doc censored, says he still wants it shown
[IsraelTimes] Cameron Bailey says lawyers working with filmmakers to ensure film meets standards, after organizers said use of Hamas footage was unauthorized, cited fear of ‘disruption’.

The festival was set to show “The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue,” which tells the story of Maj. Gen. (res.) Noam Tibon, who set out to save his son, journalist Amir Tibon, and his son’s family as they were attacked by Hamas-led terrorists at their home on Kibbutz Nahal Oz near the Gaza border. The film was created by Canadian filmmaker Barry Avrich.

But Deadline reported Tuesday that TIFF pulled the screening due to fear of anti-Israel protesters disrupting the festival. However, sources close to the film’s production told the site that the festival’s claimed reason for the cancellation was that the filmmakers had not received explicit permission to use videos of the Hamas operatives during the attack in the film, with the festival fearing a potential lawsuit.

In a statement, CEO Cameron Bailey apologized for “any pain this situation may have caused,” acknowledging “the concerns it has raised among members of the Jewish community and beyond” and insisting he intends for the movie to be shown.

The movie features footage taken from the cameras of terrorists, who filmed their atrocities as they marauded through Israeli communities. Over a quarter of Nahal Oz’s 400 residents were killed or taken hostage that day.

According to Deadline, the filmmakers were asked by the festival to make several editorial changes, including to the film’s title, and get legal clearance to use footage filmed and livestreamed by Hamas terrorists as they carried out their onslaught.

The artists were also told they had to beef up security for the event and provide a letter of indemnification, legally accepting liability for any copyright violations or other legal issues that could arise from the film’s showing.
Posted by trailing wife 2025-08-14 2025-08-14 02:53|| || Front Page|| [295 views ]  Top
 File under: Hamas 

#1 I am surprised WWII did not result in massive copyright claims. Not to mention the crime of photographing military facilities.

Of course, the real reason is "threat of disruption" by the mostly-peaceful festival crowd. Lack of clearance is just a petticoat on the pig.
Posted by SteveS 2025-08-14 07:35||   2025-08-14 07:35|| Front Page Top

#2 Ritchie Torres: 'Antisemitism in US has metastasized into a crisis'
New York Congressman reacts to FBI figures showing Jews are the target of 70% of all religion-based hate crimes despite only making up 2% of the US population.
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-08-14 10:24||   2025-08-14 10:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Terrifying new October 7 footage shows kidnapped Israeli led through Gaza by Hamas terrorists as baying mob tries to lynch him... before being starved and tortured for 491 days
Posted by Skidmark 2025-08-14 10:52||   2025-08-14 10:52|| Front Page Top

#4 Brother of slain hostage Itzik Elgarat says autopsy shows Hamas tortured him to death
Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-08-14 11:20||   2025-08-14 11:20|| Front Page Top

#5 I'm sorry, if you're going to show images of human suffering and violent death, you're sick. The old internet site ogrish.com was nothing but this. The video I saw of a Chechen murdering a Russian POW is seared into my brain. It's not just NSFW, it's NSFL. Not safe for life.
It's bad enough when it's internet sickos showing them to each other. But doing it at a legitimate film festival?
They are right to find a legal fig leaf to hide behind to stop it.
After WW2 all the intellectual property of the Nazis was declared public domain. And rightfully so, nobody should be able to profit from that. It's sick.
Avrich is Jewish, he should know better that this kind of thing just plays into the worst kind of stereotypes about Jewish filmmakers. White supremacists use this kind of material for online recruitment and radicalization, leading to real-world harm against Jews.
Posted by Jairong+Scourge+of+the+Gepids2435 2025-08-14 11:47||   2025-08-14 11:47|| Front Page Top

#6 Showing for amusement is evil indeed, Jairong. But as reportage and witness it is necessary.

The answer to “People say It didn’t happen, and anyway they deserved it” is “Look: this is what they themselves boasted of as they were doing all the things we say they did. We are not inventing fantasies, and this evil must be answered.”

After General Eisenhower, I believe it was, swept over the first of the death camps, he force marched the entire nearby community through at gunpointp, forcing them to see what they had refused to acknowledge even as they profited from the business opportunities engendered.
Posted by trailing wife 2025-08-14 12:29||   2025-08-14 12:29|| Front Page Top

#7 It’s a documentary, not Saving Private Ryan. This is what the genre is for.
Posted by trailing wife 2025-08-14 12:32||   2025-08-14 12:32|| Front Page Top

#8 Ike also made sure that thousands of American soldiers witnessed the aftermath of the Holocaust. I think he intuited that no one who hadn't seen it would believe it.
Posted by Matt 2025-08-14 13:47||   2025-08-14 13:47|| Front Page Top

#9 Eisenhower made sure people knew about the Final Solution.

The film fucks are fully in bed with the modern day Nazis going for Jew death.
Posted by DarthVader 2025-08-14 13:49||   2025-08-14 13:49|| Front Page Top

#10 And by the way: Are the organizers saying they're worried about a copyright suit by Hamas? Please, Hamas, subject yourselves to the jurisdiction of a western court.
Posted by Matt 2025-08-14 14:14||   2025-08-14 14:14|| Front Page Top

#11 Canada has been spiraling down the drain along with the Euros.
Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2025-08-14 15:16||   2025-08-14 15:16|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Jairong+Scourge+of+the+Gepids2435 2025-08-14 20:56||   2025-08-14 20:56|| Front Page Top

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