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Toulouse shooter arrested by Israel Police in 2010 for possession of a knife
The head of the French intelligence agency DCRI said in an interview on Friday that the Toulouse shooter was arrested by Israel Police in Jerusalem in 2010, after he was found in possession of a knife.

Bernard Squarcini told the French newspaper Le Monde that Mohamed Merah, who killed four people in an attack on a Jewish school in Toulouse on Monday, was held by police in Jerusalem during his visit to Israel in 2010, but was released shortly after his detainment.
Squarcini said that Merah visited several other Middle Eastern countries during that trip, including Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and Afghanistan. He said that French intelligence tracked him and investigated to see if he is suspicious, but found that he had not been engaging in any ideological activism or religious activity.
And yet the US saw fit to place him on the No Fly List for some reason. Funny that.
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Autopsy Reveals Toulouse Killer's Body Was Hit by 20 Bullets
Officials say an autopsy on the body of the gunman suspected of carrying out the killing spree in the city of Toulouse shows he died of two bullet wounds — but that he was hit by some 20 bullets, mainly in the arms and legs.

The judicial and police officials said Friday that a bullet wound to the left temple and another to the abdomen of 23-year-old Mohamed Merah were fatal.

The officials said the autopsy also found some 20 bullets, mainly to the arms and legs of the man. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case publicly.
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Posted by: tipper || 03/23/2012 19:20 || Comments || Link || [11143 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Died of natural causes I'd say. A fella with 20 bullet holes in him, naturally dies.
Posted by: Besoeker || 03/23/2012 19:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Whoa, first he was arrested or surrendered, then he comitted suicide by jumping out a window, now he has 20 bullets in 'im.

Thank goodness thats cleared up.

AND YET THE FRENCH DARE TO CRITICIZE POPCORN AS "TOO AMERICAN"???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 03/23/2012 20:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Only 20?

Back to the firing range for the cops.
Posted by: Barbara || 03/23/2012 21:01 Comments || Top||

#4  any silver bullet gun oil on those 20 rounds?
Posted by: Water Modem || 03/23/2012 22:44 Comments || Top||


Teacher calls Toulouse shooter a "victim"
An English teacher sparked outrage across France today after calling for her pupils to observe a minute's silence for Toulouse serial killer Mohammed Merah.

In disturbing scenes at Gustave Flaubert High School in Rouen, Normandy, Lorraine Collin, 56, described the 23-year-old who murdered seven including three children as himself being the 'victim of an unhappy childhood'.

This prompted up to 15 pupils aged between 17 and 18 to storm out of their classroom and report Ms Collin to their headmaster Luc Chatel, France's Education Minister, called for Ms Collin to be 'suspended immediately', saying he 'condemned this unspeakable behaviour without reservation'.

It came as Merah's elder brother said he was 'very proud' of what his brother had done, hailing him as someone who fought for what he believed in.
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Posted by: tipper || 03/23/2012 18:14 || Comments || Link || [11136 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This prompted up to 15 pupils aged between 17 and 18 to storm out of their classroom and report Ms Collin to their headmaster

Maybe there's hope for France yet...
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/23/2012 18:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Changing my nick in the cookie
Posted by: phil_b || 03/23/2012 20:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Ms. Collins was last seen rapidly rowing across the Channel.
Posted by: manversgwtw || 03/23/2012 21:02 Comments || Top||


French Muslims hold breath as France takes stock

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Posted by: Besoeker || 03/23/2012 08:00 || Comments || Link || [11137 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I believe the author of the article, and probably the folks quoted, are pretending nobody knows about the carbeques and the non-fatal attacks on Jews.
What if they're wrong? What if people actually know about these things?
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 03/23/2012 11:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Once again....the aggressor as victim. GMAFB.
Posted by: Gerthudion Tojo6619 || 03/23/2012 11:58 Comments || Top||

#3  One way that Muslims could deflect any pushback would be to condemn the attacks, in no uncertain terms - no waffling, no blame the victim, no reference to Palestine or Afghanistan. And say the same thing in Arabic as in French.

Instead, they will just whine and complain every time someone offends them by not treating them as special.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 03/23/2012 16:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Can you condemn mother Teresa, Rambler?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/23/2012 16:21 Comments || Top||

#5  "French Muslims hold breath"

Keep that up long enough, the problem will solve itself....
Posted by: Barbara || 03/23/2012 22:22 Comments || Top||


The lesson of Mohamed Merah
More polemics from Tariq Ramadan. You'll be surprised to learn that the murderous killing spree undertaken by Mohamed had nothing to do with his religion, its all the fault of the French.
He only went on a Jihad after being deprived of his true dignity by France.

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Posted by: tipper || 03/23/2012 05:05 || Comments || Link || [11133 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The first minute (but the rest is not bad either)
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/23/2012 9:54 Comments || Top||

#2  "...he ends up a Jihadi without real conviction.."

That's why he filmed his 'slay them wherever you find them' moment while shouting Allahu Akbar. Because he didn't really believe. Yeah right.
Posted by: Lord Garth || 03/23/2012 10:09 Comments || Top||

#3  But who paid for the terrorists extensive travelling?

I am assessing the French islamic websites. Until one of their own was implicated, they were attacking "nazis" for killing children. Now they are posting pics of babies that are said to be collateral casualties of IAF bombing.

I have counted 5 non-islamic causes for the terror. All blame Western Civilization for not allowing Merah to enforce shariah beheading and limb hacking. Those being the right of the slaves of allah.

We don't infest our homes with termites. Why infest our countries with pests?
Posted by: Jinesing Dingle1220 || 03/23/2012 16:52 Comments || Top||

#4  It's probably not the religion. It's actually the culture, that's in so many ways the antithesis of Western culture. It was the culture that gave birth to the religion, and the two have been reinforcing each other since 622 A.D.
Posted by: Fred || 03/23/2012 17:37 Comments || Top||

#5  We don't infest our homes with termites. Why infest our countries with pests?
Snark of the day, JD.
Posted by: tipper || 03/23/2012 18:07 Comments || Top||

#6  The question the West isn't prepared to answer is,

Where does religion end, and political ideology and ethno-religous hate begin?
Posted by: Phil_B || 03/23/2012 18:40 Comments || Top||

#7  Ramadan is just walking in George W. Bush's footsteps:
"Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace, they represent evil and war."
Imam Scholar of Islam President George W. Bush
September 16, 2001

In a way the fault doesn't lie with islamofascistic creeps like Ramadan.
It really is our fault because we are enabling them.
Posted by: Herb Phavick7554 || 03/23/2012 21:49 Comments || Top||


German court gives online terror recruiter five year sentence
A German court sentenced a Syrian-born militant for five years on Thursday for posting jihadi propaganda on the internet aimed at recruiting new members for Al Qaeda.

The higher regional court in Koblenz, western Germany said it convicted the 26-year-old defendant identified only as Hussam S on 44 counts of recruiting for "foreign terrorist networks" from September 2007 to December 2009. He was also found guilty of two counts of supporting foreign terrorist groups.

It said, "He released 44 publications online calling for participation in violent jihad by Al Qaeda, Al Qaeda in Iraq, the Islamic Jihad Union and the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan.

"The evaluation of the internet postings found that the defendant not only called for armed jihad against foreign troops in Afghanistan and Iraq in particular but for the violent spread of terrorism around the world."

The court said he had published German-language propaganda online, much of it translated from audio and video messages by leading Al Qaeda members. In two cases, he posted a video showing the beheading of a U.S. citizen used as promotional material by Al Qaeda in Iraq.

Hussam S was arrested in July 2010 in the western German town of Montabaur. He was born in Syria and is of Palestinian origin. He has lived in Germany since 1990 and was registered as a student.

The jail sentence was close to the demand of federal prosecutors, who had called for five years and six months imprisonment.

The defendant did not address the court during his trial and his lawyers said the case against him was flawed without specifically calling for his acquittal.
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Despite Shootings, Extremist Islam Waning In France: Experts
[AFP]. Mohammedans in French suburbs remain vulnerable to bad turban indoctrination but those lured into radicalism are an "ultra-minority" and the spread of jihadism is declining, experts say.

Mohamed Merah, a 23-year-old suspected Al-Qaeda myrmidon of Algerian descent was killed Thursday following a shootout with police, after being linked to seven murders in southwestern La Belle France in the last eight days.

The former resident of a Toulouse suburb is believed to have been drawn into radicalism after joining a group of Salafists
...Salafists are ostentatiously devout Moslems who figure the ostentation of their piety gives them the right to tell others how to do it and to kill those who don't listen to them...
-- an ultra-conservative brand of Islam -- and travelling to Afghanistan and Pakistain.

Such trips to Aghanistan "were quite common in the 1990s," amid the euphoria of the mujahedeen victory over Soviet troops who had invaded the country, said Samir Amghar, author of "Salafism Today."

"A number of people went to Afghanistan and Pakistain to train," explained the sociology professor at La Belle France's School for Advanced Studies in the Social Sciences.

"But for several years, we have seen a decline in jihadism because of the strong pressure of the French and European security services," he added.

He said current estimates put the number of Salafists in La Belle France at between 12,000 and 15,000, but "jihadist Salafists are an ultra-minority."

Gilles Kepel, author of "Jihad, The Trail of Political Islam," said it was "worrying when the Salafists impose their rules, for example, wearing of the full veil, on other Mohammedans."

"When there is a rupture between their values and the values of the French Republic, it makes fertile terrain for radical Islam," he stressed, adding that bad turban recruiters target those "who are marginalised."

They are speaking "in a general manner to people in working class neighbourhoods, but not strictly to the working classes.

Radicals also target "a strong proportion who are from the middle and upper classes. People who have studied, who are university graduates," Amghar said.

But, he explained, the channels through which bad turban recruiters connect with new sympathisers have evolved since the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States.

"In the 1990s, the radical imams, the preachers, were able to recruit in the mosques," he said.

"After September 11, because of the surveillance of the French intelligence services in the mosques, it became very difficult. The recruitment from then on happened through interpersonal relations, or over the internet.

Bernard Godard, co-author of "Mohammedans in La Belle France", said probing Merah's path to radicalisation was a crucial next step.

"We'll have to see how he was initiated, how he was fed jihadism," Godard said.

Speaking Thursday after Merah was killed, French President Nicolas Sarkozy
...23rd and current President of the French Republic and ex officio Co-Prince of Andorra. Sarkozy is married to singer-songwriter Carla Bruni, who has a really nice birthday suit...
vowed to crack down on bad turban indoctrination.

He said he wanted legal action against people who regularly consulted jihadist websites or who travelled abroad for indoctrination and an end to French jails being a breeding ground for extremism.

"Henceforth, any person who habitually consults Internet sites which praise terrorism and which call for hatred and violence will be punished under criminal law," he said in a televised address.
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Posted by: trailing wife || 03/23/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11132 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He said he wanted legal action against people who regularly consulted jihadist websites or who travelled abroad for indoctrination and an end to French jails being a breeding ground for extremism.

We need the same approach in UK especially re the Pakistani youth.
Posted by: Spats Slath4746 || 03/23/2012 6:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Experts.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/23/2012 8:55 Comments || Top||

#3  I have to speak out against the whole "arrest people for visiting extremist websites." I visit them periodically to satisfy my amateur academic curiosity. Should I go to jail? I think it is normal to study the enemy and it's normal to have a curiosity of the occult.
Posted by: Kentucky Beef || 03/23/2012 9:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Besides, Western governments own the internet. Allowing the jihadis to use the internet is a great way to monitor them, gather intel, etc. Take away the internet and I'd bet that intel on jihadi circles would plummet. Sarkosy is just looking for a pre-election bump in the polls.
Posted by: Kentucky Beef || 03/23/2012 9:23 Comments || Top||

#5  Besides, Western governments own the internet

Is it just me, or something off here?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/23/2012 9:59 Comments || Top||

#6  It's not just you Grom. It's one thing to review. Another to patronize/participate. I think the difference should be fairly obvious.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 03/23/2012 10:19 Comments || Top||

#7  I was referring to something else, Scooter---remember "Israel Uber Alles"?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/23/2012 14:37 Comments || Top||

#8  I guess I was responding to Kentucky Beef, not you Grom. I approve of Sarko's proposal.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 03/23/2012 15:11 Comments || Top||

#9  So I guess after what happened this week, it's "experts baffled" time again?
Posted by: tu3031 || 03/23/2012 18:49 Comments || Top||


No leads on French shooter in Afghanistan, Pakistan
[Dawn] Officials in Afghanistan and Pakistain told AFP on Thursday that they could not immediately trace the Toulouse gunman as having visited either country or held by US-led forces as announced in La Belle France.

French prosecutor Francois Molins said Mohamed Merah claimed to have been trained by Al-Qaeda in Wazoo, the most notorious hotbed of Islamist militancy on the Afghan-Pakistain border.

Molins said the suspect went to the region twice and was on one occasion placed in durance vile by Afghan police and handed over to US troops, who put him on a flight back to La Belle France.

But in Kabul, Lieutenant Colonel Jimmie Cummings, front man for NATO's
...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Originally it was a mutual defense pact directed against an expansionist Soviet Union. In later years it evolved into a mechanism for picking the American pocket while criticizing the cut of the American pants...
US-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), said: "As of now I have no information on him being in ISAF or US custody.

"We are working to ascertain the details of his activities, to include if he was jugged, during his suspected time in Afghanistan."

The governor in Kandahar -- the Taliban's birthplace where French officials said Merah was placed in durance vile in 2010 -- also claimed no Frenchie had been placed in durance vile there for six years, but also conceded police do not keep records.

In Pakistain, security officials also denied any trace of Merah, although they pointed out there were ways for would-be Islamist Islamic fascisti to slip across the country's mostly non-existent borders undetected.

"People like Merah use different channels to sneak into Pakistain. These are the kind of channels, which their networks identify as safe and risk free," one senior Pak security official told AFP on condition of anonymity.

He said Pakistain "was not ruling out" that Merah was trained in Waziristan or elsewhere in the semi-autonomous Afghan border areas, but said its security agencies were not aware of his presence in the country.

"We are talking to French authorities on the issue and looking into his possible connections to Al-Qaeda and Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistain but it is not possible at the moment to go into the specifics," he said.

Merah, a self-proclaimed Al-Qaeda Death Eater who French officials say made two trips to Pakistain and Afghanistan, was rubbed out in an assault on his flat on Thursday. He was suspected of killing seven people in southern La Belle France.

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Posted by: Fred || 03/23/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11130 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda


Germans warned of Toulouse-style terror
As La Belle France takes stock after a shoot-out on Thursday which left the man believed to have killed seven dead including three Jewish children and a rabbi, Germans were warned they could face the same horror on their streets.

Such attacks could take place in Germany, said Rainer Wendt, chairman of the DPolG police union.
They could take place in Iceland or Portugal, too, though I don't believe either is swarming with Islamists like Germany so likely they won't...
He told the business daily Handelsblatt that 250 of "roughly 1,000 sympathisers of Jihad-terrorism in Germany" had received attended terrorist training camps on the Pakistain-Afghanistan border.

But it is impossible for security agencies to keep a round-the-clock observation of these 250 people. "In this respect it is of course possible at any time that also in Germany a radicalized single perpetrator commits such actions like in Toulouse," said Wendt.

250 of "roughly 1,000 sympathisers of Jihad-terrorism in Germany" had attended terrorist training camps on the Pakistain-Afghanistan border.
He called for politicians to make training in so-called "terror camps" a crime in Germany.

"Politicians would be well advised to think about this [legal] instrument and not first become active when there are concrete plans for an attack," he said. "Then it can be very quickly too late," he added.

The police union leader noted that the French police were able to quickly home in on the suspect because of internet research and called on the German government to quickly adopt legislation that would allow German authorities to store and retain internet data.

Separately, a German Jewish leader condemned the French massacre, and said it should be regarded as a "warning signal for Germany. The problem of Islamism has been "played down, misjudged and underestimated," Charlotte Knoblauch said in Munich.

"Hostility toward Jews is growing rapidly among Moslems living in Germany," said Knobloch, the former head of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, while calling on politicians and society as a whole to not hide from these problems.

The Central Council of Moslems in Germany condemned the Toulouse killings and warned the media against using the attacker's propaganda to try to explain the violence.
"Say anything and we'll cut yer sister!"
That would "make a mockery of the victims and hurt Moslems worldwide," said council chairman Aiman Mazyek said in a statement on Thursday.
Chairman Mazyek needs to work on his taqqiya...
He said the council was "deeply shocked over the deaths from the attacker" and had already expressed his sympathies to the Jewish community in a letter to the president of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, Dieter Graumann.
The letter was back-copied to the Jewish school in Marseilles, to show precisely the respect the Moslem-German community feels for those mourning in Toulouse.
The Moslem council was very appreciative that French President Nicolas Sarkozy
...23rd and current President of the French Republic and ex officio Co-Prince of Andorra. Sarkozy is married to singer-songwriter Carla Bruni, who has a really nice birthday suit...
invited both Jewish and Moslem representatives to the presidential Elysee palace.

"That was an immensely important signal," the statement said. It "showed that the attacker's goal of inciting religions against each other backfired."
How many Moslem schools have radical Jewish Frenchmen raked with gunfire, again? Oh, yes: none.
The statement said, "there is no justification in Islam for such baseless and shameful acts."
More taqqiya.

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Posted by: trailing wife || 03/23/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11143 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Because ya know, "Toulouse" sounds just ssssoooooooooooooo Gulliver-ian!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 03/23/2012 0:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Gulliver never had to venture too far from Home.
Posted by: canalzone || 03/23/2012 23:39 Comments || Top||


La Monde: Toulouse Terrorist's Passport Had Stamp From Israel
[Ynet] A senior American official in Kandahar confirmed to French newspaper La Monde that the passport of the terrorist from Toulouse Mohammed Merah had stamps that indicate that he visited Israel, Syria, Iraq and Jordan.
 
Moreover, it was reported that he visited the West Bank.
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Posted by: trailing wife || 03/23/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11132 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda


Al-Qaeda takes responsibility for Toulouse massacre
"Pay attention to meeee!"
[Ynet] The Jund al-Khalifa group which is associated with al-Qaeda in Maghreb took responsibility for the Toulouse massacre and called on France to reexamine its hostile policy towards the Islamic minority.
Al Q. in the Maghreb seems an unlikely choice, given that the gentleman trained in Pashtunistan. But perhaps his mobile phone and laptop will reveal all.

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Posted by: trailing wife || 03/23/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11148 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in North Africa

#1  They aren't neo-nazis, then?
Posted by: Pappy || 03/23/2012 12:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Perhaps this will put all of the "lone wolf" reporting in the bin.
Posted by: Besoeker || 03/23/2012 19:47 Comments || Top||



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