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Portugal downgrade hits European bank shares
Fears that the eurozone crisis was entering a new stage intensified on Wednesday after Portugal's credit rating was slashed to junk, with European bank shares falling sharply and some government bonds coming under renewed pressure.

Portuguese bank shares tumbled in early trading, while the yield -- or interest rate -- demanded by traders to hold the country's debt jumped sharply. UK banks also lost ground, pulling the FTSE 100 down. UK government bonds, known as gilts, benefited, however, as investors looked for a safe haven.

The euro lost value against the dollar, dropping more than one cent to $1.4335.

Traders were alarmed by Moody's warning that Portugal -- like Greece -- will need a second bailout, as it became the first credit ratings agency to cut the country's debt to junk status.
Strange but the solution in Portugal and Greece is the same as in the U.S.: stop issuing debt. Okay, okay, you have to roll-over existing debt, and past profligacy requires a higher interest rate today as a penalty. You have to pay that. But stop issuing new debt and the pressure on rolling over current debt goes down.

I barely passed Econ 101 in college, but this seems like a no-brainer to me: if you're in debt up to your eyeballs and your creditors really don't want to buy anymore of your paper, stop issuing new debt. Sure it sucks as you then have to bring your government under control. Sure, you have to control expenditures and start saying 'no' to all the various interest groups.

But either you're a greedy, spineless, amoral pol or you're a statesman. Which would you rather be known as in the history books?

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Posted by: tipper || 07/06/2011 09:42 || Comments || Link || [11159 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But either you're a greedy, spineless, amoral pol or you're a statesman. Which would you rather be known as in the history books?

That's easy. Which pays better in the here and now? Short term personal wealth will ALWAYS win with the type of politician of which you're speaking.
Posted by: AlanC || 07/06/2011 11:48 Comments || Top||

#2  I think Greece is too far gone merely to stop issuing new debt. Their financial status is such that they must default on the debts they already have and start over. Or should I say, Greece must default on even more of its debt than it already has defaulted on.
As far as the other PIGS, never fear - the EU mandarins have a cunning plan up their sleeves -- LYING. The EU commissioner in charge of financial regulation said the EU could explore the possibility of suspending the rating of countries that are currently receiving bailout funds from the EU and IMF, namely Greece, Ireland and Portugal. Suspending the rating means the central banks can accept worthless defaulted paper as collateral for new loans, papering over what can only be called a default. The EU authorities can also revoke the licenses of rating agencies like S&P, etc. Anything but deal with the truth.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 07/06/2011 15:20 Comments || Top||

#3  But either you're a greedy, spineless, amoral pol or you're a statesman. Which would you rather be known as in the history books?

Winners write the history books.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 07/06/2011 16:45 Comments || Top||

#4  See also WAFF > IFF THEY DEFAULT, GREEKS WON'T BE THE FIRST IN EUROPE TO DO SO, as many Euro, World States have done so in the last century.

ARTIC:

> SPAIN = has defaulted 13X
> GERMANY = 3X
> ENgland = 3X

* SAME > GREECE MUST SELL OFF ITS ASSETS EAST-GERMANY-STYLE. However, Greece will pay a price as per seeing its sovereignty MASSIVELY LIMITED.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 07/06/2011 23:30 Comments || Top||


Lessons of Argentina crisis ignored in handling of Greece
Hat tip Instapundit.
For a vision of how the Greek debt meltdown is going to end, look no further than the International Monetary Fund's post mortem into a similar crisis that came to a head almost exactly a decade ago - Lessons From The Crisis In Argentina.
Interesting piece from The Telegraph, with a starring role by Tim Geithner. As Mark Twain once said, "History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

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Posted by: Steve White || 07/06/2011 08:25 || Comments || Link || [11149 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Anyone still under the impression that the best interests of taxpayers is foremost in mind of those handling our currencies should be sent to an institution...
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 07/06/2011 10:08 Comments || Top||


German Green party leader heads to NY, DC

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Posted by: ryuge || 07/06/2011 01:19 || Comments || Link || [11149 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We don't need em over here, we got plenty of our own fuzzy-headed eco terrorists. What, is Obama trolling for 2012 votes in Europe now?
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/06/2011 10:17 Comments || Top||

#2  What, is Obama trolling for 2012 votes in Europe now?

Just cash...
Posted by: Steve White || 07/06/2011 10:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Just cash...

$5 million in small, anonymous and untraceable online donations please.
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/06/2011 13:09 Comments || Top||


Dutch blamed for deaths in Srebrenica massacre
Dutch UN peacekeepers have been found legally responsible for the deaths of three Bosnian Muslim men in the Srebrenica massacre.

Judges in the Netherlands ordered the government to compensate the men's relatives, which could open the way to other claims by relatives. It could also have repurcussions for countries sending troops on UN peacekeeping missions, as it sets a precedent for national governments being taken to court for the actions of their troops even when under UN control.

The ruling said even though the Dutch soldiers were acting under a UN mandate, they were under the "effective control" of top Dutch officials in The Hague when they ordered hundreds of Muslim men and boys out of their compound.

The ruling said the three men were among the last to be expelled and by that time the "Dutchbat" peacekeepers already had seen abuses and should have known they faced a serious threat of being killed.

"Dutchbat should not have turned these men over to the Serbs," a summary of the judgment said.

The Hague Appeals Court has not yet set a compensation figure. Victims' lawyer Liesbeth Zegveld said the sum would "not be in the millions."
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Posted by: ryuge || 07/06/2011 00:45 || Comments || Link || [11152 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ummm...why not blame the Serbs?
Posted by: Skidmark || 07/06/2011 2:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Who told you they don't, Skidmark? Doesn't mean they'll pass a chance at some jazia, does it?
Posted by: gr(o)mgoru || 07/06/2011 5:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Judges got it exactly right.

The Serbs murdered the men.

The Dutch gave way and let it happen.

All it took was for good soldiers to stand their ground and the massacre doesn't happen. The Dutch didn't.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/06/2011 8:18 Comments || Top||

#4  ..not much different than the forced repatriation of Russian POWs back to Stalin after WWII. Similar fates. Just like the Dutch soldiers, ours just followed the orders of their political authorities. At least Stalin was nice enough to wait till he got them beyond the border and out side the view of the West before dealing with them.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 07/06/2011 9:05 Comments || Top||

#5  For some reason I thought a massacre meant more than three dead.
Posted by: Rjschwarz || 07/06/2011 9:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Just think what everlasting glory the Dutch would have covered themselves in if they had refused and fought. But no, military heroes are forbidden in Europe.

The deal with Stalin was a deal with the devil, to be sure. The Dutch were not in a similar situation of needing something from the Serbs.
Posted by: gromky || 07/06/2011 11:03 Comments || Top||



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