Hi there, !
Today Fri 11/30/2018 Thu 11/29/2018 Wed 11/28/2018 Tue 11/27/2018 Mon 11/26/2018 Sun 11/25/2018 Sat 11/24/2018 Archives
Rantburg
531203 articles and 1854408 comments are archived on Rantburg.

Today: 53 articles and 157 comments as of 2:41.
Post a news link    Post your own article   
Area: WoT Operations    WoT Background    Opinion        Politix   
Somali Muslim Arrested for Attempting to Mow Down Jews With Car in Front of L.A. Synagogue
Today's Headlines
Headline Comments [Views]
Page 3: Non-WoT
6 19:41 Alaska Paul [336095] 
1 09:47 gorb [336080] 
3 15:08 trailing wife [336090] 
6 12:08 Rambler in Virginia [336092] 
0 [336086] 
2 08:57 DarthVader [336076] 
3 10:48 Abu Uluque [336087] 
0 [336077] 
7 22:18 trailing wife [336083] 
3 19:08 swksvolFF [336108] 
10 18:06 USN, Ret. [336070] 
9 20:37 Anomalous Sources [336082] 
0 [336085] 
Page 1: WoT Operations
3 15:14 trailing wife [336070]
0 [336072]
0 [336103]
0 [336066]
0 [336081]
0 [336067]
0 [336068]
0 [336070]
0 [336068]
0 [336069]
6 18:56 Woodrow [336137]
0 [336077]
0 [336070]
0 [336072]
0 [336076]
Page 2: WoT Background
10 18:57 Woodrow [336085]
0 [336079]
6 21:45 Thumper Hupineque1276 [336089]
7 21:41 Anomalous Sources [336100]
0 [336101]
0 [336074]
0 [336079]
0 [336075]
0 [336082]
0 [336068]
2 22:20 trailing wife [336081]
0 [336084]
0 [336067]
2 14:14 Procopius2k [336077]
0 [336078]
4 21:56 Thumper Hupineque1276 [336087]
Page 4: Opinion
10 21:36 newc [336082]
16 22:55 flash91 [336086]
0 [336067]
7 22:12 trailing wife [336078]
5 13:39 magpie [336070]
Page 6: Politix
6 20:43 Anomalous Sources [336101]
12 17:46 rjschwarz [336082]
3 21:30 Anomalous Sources [336088]
8 21:34 Anomalous Sources [336104]
-Lurid Crime Tales-
Woman drives onto train tracks because GPS said to go that way (video]
[USA Today] A Pennsylvania woman says she drove onto train tracks because her GPS told her to go that way. Buzz60's Sean Dowling has more.
BUZZ60
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/27/2018 02:54 || Comments || Link || [336090 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Much like a liberal following the commands of her thought masters.
Posted by: gorb || 11/27/2018 9:52 Comments || Top||

#2  In the 90s I worked for a company that created maps that would be used for auto-navigation. We put cars on every street mapping things as accurately as possible. In a few cases we had marks on those maps that said "guy flashed gun, unsafe to go back for addreses" and things like that as the locals though our cars were law enforcement or something.

At the same time we had an icon that denoted a rich area. The icon was invisible but would prevent the software from navigating folks through those areas because the rich folks don't want to be bothered. I naively suggested why not use that icon to keep the system from routing folks through the really bad areas as well. The world was less PC then but my suggestion of using the invisible icon to protect customers was still quietly called racist and ignored.

Lucky smart phones took over before anyone was routed into Compton and killed because drivers will go wherever the thing tells them to go.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/27/2018 11:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Rjschwarz, I think Waze, with its user supplied comments on changing traffic conditions, might accomplish that purpose, even if Google did acquire it from the Israeli founders.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/27/2018 15:08 Comments || Top||


-Obits-
Baroness Trumpington, a Bletchley Park code-breaker, dies at the age of 96
[Telegraph] Baroness Trumpington, a Bletchley Park code-breaker famed for flicking two fingers up at a fellow Tory peer, has died at the age of 96, her son has said.

Tributes came from across the political spectrum after Adam Barker announced that the former Conservative minister died on Monday afternoon.

Lady Trumpington only bowed out from the House of Lords, where she was celebrated as one of Parliament's most colourful characters, last year.

International Development Secretary Penny Mordaunt celebrated her as a "trailblazer, heroine and an utter joy".

Mr Barker said she had "a bloody good innings", as he tweeted: "My mother passed away this afternoon in her sleep."
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/27/2018 02:34 || Comments || Link || [336086 views] Top|| File under:


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Historic Snowstorm Blankets Chicago Area; Thousands Without Power, Hundreds Of Flights Canceled
[CHICAGO.CBSLOCAL]
Posted by: Fred || 11/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [336083 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That's just snow. Imagine what an on going civil war will do to travel and energy. Hint - it won't be temporary.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/27/2018 6:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Areas to the west, Ohare and the northwest suburbs were hit the worst.

Downtown and south, not so much. Also north of Kenosha there were only flurries. Very narrow band of snowfall.

Wasn't the snow so much (8"-12" wet snow in places), it was the wind gusts up to 60-mph that caused the outages. Trees and stuff (made heavier by the wet snow) do that when they fall over onto power lines.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 11/27/2018 8:26 Comments || Top||

#3  15 hours ago.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/27/2018 8:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Yeah, the METRA is always fun.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 11/27/2018 10:33 Comments || Top||

#5  I am waiting for the snow to melt before taking out the chainsaw to take care of the damage. Comcast had 2 major outages in my neighborhood - likely do to downed trees. Neighbor across the street had a large pine tree sort of collapse on itself hitting his car and a roof in the process (tree was maybe 50 ft tall). He needed to chainsaw his way out of the driveway yesterday AM. Constant background of chainsaws in the daylight.
Garbage truck still has not showed up (day late).
Posted by: 3dc || 11/27/2018 13:07 Comments || Top||

#6  WAS NOT HISTORIC. That's their climate agenda speaking. IT'S B.S. I was there when the area got 20 plus inches and shut the airports down for a long while. PURE BULL SHIT on their part?
Posted by: ranture || 11/27/2018 17:51 Comments || Top||

#7  PURE BULL SHIT on their part?

Yes, of course it is, ranture. But the blizzard of Christmas 2005 (when the Wife family were snowed in sequentially at the homes of a variety of frineds and relations in Washngton, DC, New Jersey, and Buffalo, NY), not to mention 1977 and 1978, are no longer within living memory of many of our journalists. So to them it is historic.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/27/2018 22:18 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russia space agency targeted over ‘stolen’ billions
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] The Russian space agency Roscosmos, whose reputation has already been hit by the failure of a Soyuz rocket last month, was on Sunday targeted by the country’s audit court over financial irregularities including "stolen" billions.
Goodness. That sounds like a lot.
"We have serious problems with Roscosmos," the Accounts Chamber chairman Alexeï Kudrin said in televised comments.

"Procurement procedures are bad, prices are too high, many projects are unfinished or halted, and funds stand unused for months, and several billion have been lost - stolen - and investigations are ongoing, " the former finance minister added.

A 2017 report by the court signalled a total of 151 irregularities within the space agency accounts, totalling 785.5 billion rubles ($11.9 billion), Russian news agency reported.

Roscosmos head Dmitry Rogozin has called for the Accounts Chamber to carry out a sectoral audit and to approve an anti-corruption plan.

Russia’s space programme has been beset by problems in recent years, although no lives have been lost.

On October 11, a Soyuz rocket failure forced Russian cosmonaut Aleksey Ovchinin and US astronaut Nick Hague to make an emergency landing shortly after takeoff in Kazakhstan. The pair escaped unharmed.

It was the first such incident in Russia’s post-Soviet history -- an unprecedented setback for the country’s space industry.

The Soviet-designed Soyuz rocket is currently the world’s only lifeline to the International Space Station.

Posted by: Fred || 11/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [336085 views] Top|| File under:


China-Japan-Koreas
Trade tensions with the United States blow hole in budget for China's newest aircraft carrier
[SCMP] Work on China’s newest aircraft carrier has slowed as tensions with the United States and military reform have taken their toll on the programme's budget, military sources said.
Example of what happens when you piss off your biggest money maker. US companies take note.
The assessment came just a day after Beijing confirmed it was building its second home-grown aircraft carrier - its third in total.

State-run Xinhua news agency said on its microblog on Sunday that work was under way on China's "new generation carrier", the Type 002. Its predecessor, the Type 001A, the first domestically built vessel of its kind, was launched in April 2017. Military experts expect it will be handed over to the Chinese navy by October 1 in time for the 70th anniversary of the people's republic.

China's first aircraft carrier, the Kuznetsov-class Liaoning, was commissioned in 2012 after it was bought from Ukraine and refitted in China.

The Xinhua report was the first official Chinese media confirmation of the Type 002's construction, a disclosure that means the vessel's keel is ready to be laid, according to a source close to the Chinese military.

The newest warship will be fitted with the world's most advanced aircraft launch system, an electromagnetic system known as EMALs, which is the same type used on the nuclear-powered USS Gerald Ford supercarrier. EMALs causes less wear and tear on planes and allows more aircraft to be launched in a shorter time.
A technological and engineering challenge. Be interesting to see if they make it work.
Military insiders said work on the Type 002 had slowed because of budget cuts and the rising costs associated with the J-15, the beleaguered carrier-based fighter jet.

"China has so far still failed to develop a more advanced and powerful carrier-based fighter jet to match the Type 002 carrier," a naval source said.
China has a history of producing crap fighters with crap engines. This trend is not improving for them.
The South China Morning Post reported earlier that several sources said Beijing was developing a new carrier-based fighter jet to replace the J-15, which has had a series of mechanical failures and crashes. All of the J-15s were grounded for three months after a fatal crash in 2016. A military investigation revealed that some data relating to the flight control system had been doctored.
A repressive government covering up its failures!?!?! Say it isn't so!!!
"Another problem that slowed down construction of the Type 002 is the long-standing short lifespans of the J-15s' engines, even though the aircraft are now equipped with the more advanced and powerful WS-10H Taihang engines," an insider on the carrier projects said.

New turbine technology had extended the lifespan of the WS-10 engines from 800 flight hours to 1,500, but that was still just a fraction of the more than 4,000 flight hours that General Electric's F414 engines - used on the US' carrier-based F-18 Super Hornets ‐ could put in.

"The WS-10H is powerful and advanced, but its lifespan is much shorter than the American technology, meaning China needs more engines to support the operation of its J-15s. That's costly because each WS-10 engine costs millions of yuan," the insider said.
The long and short of it is, China can't produce fighters and ships that can run as long as the US, and can't keep up the tempo the US can, and can't compete with the performance. On top of that their damage control on ships is almost completely lacking and they don't have the naval skills, which take a long time to develop and are very expensive to do so, that the US and Japan have.

The more I read about China's navy and air force the more I feel it would be more in our interests to fight them now, rather than give them another 30 years to work out the kinks and we have to fight on their terms.
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/27/2018 11:17 || Comments || Link || [336095 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  The long and short of it is, China can't produce fighters and ships that can run as long as the US, and can't keep up the tempo the US can, and can't compete with the performance.

Be assured that the incoming Donk House will do their best to make it more 'fair' by the same methodology of making funds scarce.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/27/2018 12:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh yeah, war! Because that worked out so well for us in Iraq.

Why are we in conflict with China? Because we're assholes. Imagine a foreign power who insisted America must not be the dominant power in the Gulf of Mexico. Would we say that's bullshit?

How about a foreign power who insisted we must never interfere in Cuba, despite it being off our coast. Maybe understand now about the Taiwan thing?
Posted by: Herb McCoy || 11/27/2018 12:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Or perhaps China is fully intent on blocking sea trade in the South Sea. Or bully all its neighbors so it can get all the goods in their waters. Or steal all the tech and IP it can get. Or rob countries of their wealth in Africa and Asia.

The only asshole outside of China in this scenario is you, Herb.
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/27/2018 16:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Why are we in conflict with China? Because we're assholes.

You must have a mouse in your pocket, cuz you don't speak for me. As Tonto said: "What's that 'we', White Man?"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/27/2018 16:13 Comments || Top||

#5  Why are we in conflict with China? Because we're Because we are not chicom imperialist assholes. And we don't want to take over all of Asia.

Taiwan? A sovereign nation that has never completely destroyed other countries like Cuba in South America, Africa.

Blow hole in budget for China's newest aircraft carrier

Just how much does bamboo and rice paper cost now a days?
Posted by: Woodrow || 11/27/2018 19:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Would be ironic if China sold its super-duper-sonic anti-carrier missiles to a third party and had them whizzing back into their carriers?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/27/2018 19:41 Comments || Top||


Japan Set to Procure F-35B STOVL Aircraft
The Japanese government has decided to procure the F35B short take-off and vertical-landing (STOVL) stealth fighter aircraft as part of the new defense plan to be outlined next month. This information was reported by Japanese media Nippon News Network (NNN).

The carrier-borne aircraft would be procured to be deployed from the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force(JMSDF) two Izumo-class helicopter destroyers, JS Izumo and JS Kaga. The two vessels, the largest in the JMSDF fleet with a displacement of 27,000 tons (full load) and a length of 248 meters would be modified in order to accommodate the aircraft.

The first ship in the class, Izumo was launched on 6 August 2013. The ship was commissioned on 25 March 2015. Kaga was commissioned on 22 March 2017. The F35B is a derivative of the F35A already operated by the Japan Air Self Defense Force.
Posted by: Thumper Hupineque1276 || 11/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [336070 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Those are some pretty big "destroyers"
Posted by: Snavimble Bucket1794 || 11/27/2018 1:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Cause 'destroyers' are defensive and aircraft carriers are 'offensive'. It's the subtleties of the language lost in translation.

JS Izumo and JS Kaga?
...now just add the Akagi, Hiryu and Soryu.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/27/2018 6:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Hehe.... there was talk earlier of replacing the helicopters on the "destroyers" with the F35B and China got its collective knickers in a bunch.

It will be fun to watch them kick and cry over this.

Japan is back in the game.
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/27/2018 9:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Actually, the name Soryu was taken by a submarine.
Posted by: HeavyG || 11/27/2018 12:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Can you imagine anyone getting away with calling a USAF plane Enola Gay or Bocks Car today?
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/27/2018 13:19 Comments || Top||

#6  A "Bouncing Betty".... how sexist.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/27/2018 13:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Next they will be weaponizing J-Pop. Hey It worked before.

Posted by: Thrise Shomble3667 || 11/27/2018 14:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Actually, the name Soryu was taken by a submarine.

Seems they have two submersibles with the name Soryu.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/27/2018 16:45 Comments || Top||

#9  Likely the name is pronounced the same but the kanji are different. So the Hawaiian Orchid grower's I know family name is Akagi but not the same as the ship Akagi. Likewise my old landlady was a Kubota but not the same family as the tractor company. This might be the Japanese solution to the "Smith" problem.
Posted by: Thrise Shomble3667 || 11/27/2018 17:25 Comments || Top||

#10  P2K: i like what you did with the word ‘submersible’
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 11/27/2018 18:06 Comments || Top||


Economy
Trump administration looks to give private Medicare plans negotiating power on drugs
[The Hill] Insurers that participate in Medicare’s prescription drug program would be able to exclude certain drugs if prices rise faster than inflation as part of a new proposal from the Trump administration.

The proposal, announced Monday, is aimed at lowering prescription drug costs for seniors by giving Medicare plans leverage in price negotiations.

Currently, private Medicare health plans are required to cover all or "substantially all" drug in six "protected" classes, such as HIV treatments, antidepressants and cancer drugs, regardless of cost.
This gives pharmaceutical companies little incentive to make the drugs affordable, administration officials said.

"The lack of any ability for Part D plans to manage drugs in the protected classes has allowed the pharmaceutical industry to command high prices on protected class drugs in Part D, without patients getting a good deal," Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Administrator Seema Verma said in a statement.

Under the proposal, health plans would be allowed to exclude protected drugs with price increases that are greater than inflation, as well as certain new drug formulations that are not a "significant innovation" over the original product.

The proposal could save taxpayers $692 million over a decade, officials said.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/27/2018 01:49 || Comments || Link || [336076 views] Top|| File under:

#1  iPhone app could save you money:

Can I use GoodRx if I have insurance or medicare?

Posted by: Besoeker || 11/27/2018 2:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Big Pharma and demoncrats hardest hit.
Posted by: DarthVader || 11/27/2018 8:57 Comments || Top||


General Motors says cutting 15 percent of workforce to save $6 bln
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] In a massive restructuring, auto giant General Motors announced Monday it would cut 15 percent of its workforce to save $6 billion and adapt to "changing market conditions."

The moves include shuttering three North American auto assembly plants next year: the Oshawa plan in Ontario, Canada; Hamtramck in bankrupt, increasingly impoverished, reliably Democrat, Detroit
... ruled by Democrats since 1962. A city whose Golden Age included the Purple Gang...
, Michigan and Lordstown in Warren, Ohio.

In addition, it will close propulsion plans in Baltimore, Maryland and Warren, Michigan, and two more plants outside of North America.

GM has been increasing its focus on highly popular trucks and SUVs and "now intends to prioritize future vehicle investments in its next-generation battery-electric architectures."
Posted by: Fred || 11/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [336082 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Uh hu, Meanwhile foreign auto manufacturers are moving more production to the US . They especially like to set up in non-union controlled states.
Posted by: Snavimble Bucket1794 || 11/27/2018 1:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Note to upstart GM marketing team:

No, those cars you see virtually everywhere today, they're not extended sedans or station wagons. They're called 'crossovers.'
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/27/2018 1:36 Comments || Top||

#3  I get the feeling that GM is up to something. Shedding union workers?
Posted by: gorb || 11/27/2018 2:14 Comments || Top||


#5  New data from Mexico's auto industry show the country exported 2.33 million vehicles to the U.S in 2017, an increase of 9.4 percent. In addition, 75 percent of the vehicles exported from Mexico wound up being sold in the U.S., far outpacing the next most popular destination, Canada, which received just more than 8 percent of the vehicles shipped out of Mexico.

GM's exports from Mexican plants popped 26.3 percent from January through November 2017, according to the Mexican Automotive Association.

So much for USMCA
Posted by: Thumper Hupineque1276 || 11/27/2018 2:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Ford's already said that they're getting out of sedans, and the motor press screamed that they were crazy to try.
Evidenty the handwriting on the wall is big enough that more than one person can read it.
Posted by: ed in texas || 11/27/2018 7:16 Comments || Top||

#7  Well they know another bailout isn't in the offing.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 11/27/2018 8:28 Comments || Top||

#8  We should probably forcibly shutter a few hundred dealerships in deep blue enclaves to help them recover.
Posted by: George Phuque2801 || 11/27/2018 15:42 Comments || Top||

#9  Watching a business realign its future using forecast outcomes is interesting.

Assumptions, though, can be tricky things.

Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 11/27/2018 20:37 Comments || Top||


Europe
French official 'suspected of spying for North Korea'
[BBC] Benoît Quennedey was arrested on Sunday night over the "collection and delivery of information to a foreign power", they say.

He is being questioned by the domestic security agency, the DGSI.

His Paris home and the home of his parents near Dijon have been searched, reports say.

Mr Quennedey is a senior civil servant, working for the Senate's department of architecture, heritage and gardens. He is also president of the Franco-Korean Friendship Association (AAFC in French), which promotes closer ties with North Korea and supports the reunification of the divided Koreas.

Posted by: Besoeker || 11/27/2018 08:05 || Comments || Link || [336080 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  Don't work for the weak horse.
Posted by: gorb || 11/27/2018 9:47 Comments || Top||


Swiss Poised to Reject Bid to Save Cow Horns
[An Nahar] Swiss voters on Sunday appeared set to reject a proposed constitutional amendment to preserve cow horns while approving a law that gives insurance companies broad leeway to spy on suspected welfare cheats.

The third measure on the ballot, a rightwing proposal that would have given Swiss judges supremacy over world courts, was also headed for defeat, according to provisional results released by the GFS Bern polling and research firm.

The poll is part of Switzerland
...home of the Helvetians, famous for cheese, watches, yodeling, and William Tell...
's famous direct democracy system, in which voters cast ballots on national issues four times a year.

The cow horn initiative was launched by livestock farmer Armin Capaul, who captured widespread media attention after he secured the more than 100,000 signatures needed to force a vote in an upstart campaign that began with few resources and no political support.

The proposal did not call for a ban on dehorning but sought a constitutional amendment that would have created incentives for farmers to let horns grow.

Capaul said his campaign was inspired by conversations with his herd in him home of Perrefitte, a municipality in the heart of the Jura mountain range.

Environmental and animal rights groups ultimately joined Capaul's effort but it was opposed by the government, which argued farmers had to remain free to manage their livestock as they saw fit.

Provisional results from GFS Bern said the proposal was likely to be rejected, with 54 percent voting against.

- INSURANCE COMPANY SPIES -
Voters were, however, poised to approve a measure in which the government sought consent for legal revisions passed in March that outline the type surveillance insurance companies can use to expose potential fraudsters.

Insurers in the wealthy Alpine nation had long spied on customers they suspected of making false claims, but that came to a stop following a 2016 ruling by the European Court of Human Rights, which said unregulated spying amounted to a violation of privacy.

The government insists that surveillance is necessary to curb insurance fraud and in turn keep costs low for all.

Sixty-seven percent of voters supported the revised law, according to GFS Bern's provisional results.

"What the Swiss wanted to show was that the social safety net is important, but that (for it to work) we all have to be absolutely responsible," Benjamin Roduit of the centre-right Christian Democratic Party told public broadcaster RTS.

Critics argued that the measures were hastily written under pressure from the insurance company lobby and do not explicitly prohibit serious, unjustified invasions of privacy.

Legal analysts have noted that the law does not prohibit insurers, or the detectives they hire, from recording or filming someone who is on their private balcony or in their garden, provided those areas are visible from a public space.

- SUPREME LAW -
Voters also looked set to overwhelmingly reject the initiative dubbed "Swiss Law First," which called for domestic law to be placed above international law.

The rightwing, anti-migrant Swiss People's Party (SVP) sought to portray the measure as essential for safeguarding national illusory sovereignty.

But the government and business groups were staunchly opposed, warning that hundreds of trade deals vital to the Swiss economy as well as the country's reputation would have been threatened by a formal repudiation of international courts.

"It is a huge defeat," SVP vice president Celine Amaudruz told RTS after just 33 percent of voters supported the proposal, according to provisional results.

Posted by: Fred || 11/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [336077 views] Top|| File under:


Olde Tyme Religion
A Church Group Surrounded ICE After It Arrested An Illegal Alien, 27 Left In Cuffs
[Daily Caller] Police arrested 27 members of a North Carolina church for surrounding an Immigration and Customs Enforcement van and refusing to move after immigration officers arrested an illegal immigrant.

Members of CityWell United Methodist Church in Durham accompanied illegal immigrant Samuel Oliver-Bruno, whom they protected from deportation for 11 months, to an appointment to be fingerprinted at the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services in Morrisville, North Carolina. The group initially prayed for Oliver-Bruno and sang hymns in the parking lot, but turned frantic when they witnessed immigration officers arrest him. They surrounded the van into which officers placed Oliver-Bruno, refused to move after being told to disperse, and were arrested.

"We told the police chief, ’We understand this is your job, but we need you to understand that as a matter of conviction we cannot move, and you will have to arrest us,'" Pastor Cleve May told The Washington Post.

Congregants initiated a nearly 3-hour standoff with ICE officers to block Oliver-Bruno’s arrest. Officers attempted to disperse the crowd, explaining to the congregants that according to U.S. law, Oliver-Bruno had to be deported.

"Listen up!" an assistant field officer shouted to the crowd. "The only way this is going to go down is this way: He’s been ordered removed from the United States. That’s it. I know the law, okay? So what we’re going to do now ‐ you’ve got to disperse."

The congregants refused to move from the van, however, and instead continued chanting "Shame" at ICE officers and sang hymns.

The agent eventually stepped away from the crowd while Oliver-Bruno and two other officers remained in the van. Police arrived and arrested 27 of the church congregants and booked them in Wake County Detention Center with Oliver-Bruno.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/27/2018 02:44 || Comments || Link || [336092 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...Well, give 'em this: they had the strength of their convictions and they remained essentially peaceful.

Still idiots, though.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 11/27/2018 5:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Massive idiots. I doubt they give as much support to a citizen crippled by a drunk driving illegal.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/27/2018 6:52 Comments || Top||

#3  I thought Christian Charity was supposed to be voluntary.

These lot are reaching into other people's pockets to virtue signal.

Increased Rents, Suppressed Wages. Less infrastructure. Increased population density. More Crowded government services and smaller rations from government services are all costs the migration subsidisers impose on others.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 11/27/2018 8:11 Comments || Top||

#4  So does that mean those church members leave their doors unlocked and welcome anybody into their house to live in and maybe help themselves to a few things?
Posted by: Seeking Cure For Ignorance || 11/27/2018 9:40 Comments || Top||

#5  ’We understand this is your job, but we need you to understand that as a matter of conviction we cannot move, and you will have to arrest us,'

Sold. Add 25 years for RICO for defrauding the US government by aiding and abetting illegals.

Posted by: DarthVader || 11/27/2018 11:10 Comments || Top||

#6  If this had happened in California, the police would probably have arrested the ICE agents.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 11/27/2018 12:08 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
NASA’s Insight Mars Lander arrives on the Red Planet, ends successful journey
[FOXNEWS] NASA announced that its Mars InSight lander landed successfully on the surface of the Red Planet, ending a journey that lasted six months and more than 300 million miles.

The InSight lander entered Mars' atmosphere just shortly after 2:40 p.m. EST on Monday and touched the surface at approximately 2:54 p.m. EST. The last part of the journey was the most harrowing, with NASA calling it "seven minutes of terror" due to the agency's inability to control the landing of the spacecraft, which cost $828 million. The anxious final moments of the lander's journey ended when a NASA official declared "touchdown confirmed!" sparking scenes of celebration at mission control in the agency's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.
Posted by: Fred || 11/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [336108 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Touchdown? More likely thumpdown, but ok.
Posted by: gorb || 11/27/2018 2:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Very clear picture so far.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 11/27/2018 12:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Awesome.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/27/2018 19:08 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Hispanic Babies Aborted in U.S. Outnumber Caravan Migrants 7 to 1
[Breitbart] Far more Hispanic babies have been aborted in the United States than there are migrants reported to be in the caravan en route through Mexico to the U.S. border.

A report released Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shows, in 2015, 72,056 Hispanic women ‐ or 17.5 percent of all women who reported abortions ‐ had abortions in the 31 states that reported abortion statistics, as well as in the District of Columbia.

According to the New York Times, the number of migrants in the caravan "could reach more than 10,000," officials estimate, revealing the number of Hispanic babies aborted in the United States to have outnumbered the estimated number of migrants by about seven to one.

The CDC report, titled "Abortion Surveillance ‐ United States, 2015," finds that Hispanic women had a higher rate of abortion in 2015 than non-Hispanic white women.

"In this report, abortion rates and ratios remained 1.5 and 1.3 times higher for Hispanic compared with non-Hispanic white women," reported the CDC.

Additionally, more Hispanic babies were aborted in New York City alone in 2015 than the number of migrants reported to be in the caravan.

The New York State Department of Health reports that, in 2015, 17,391 Hispanic babies were aborted in New York City.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/27/2018 01:38 || Comments || Link || [336087 views] Top|| File under:


#2  Who cares, either way?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/27/2018 6:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Democrats killing their own base.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 11/27/2018 10:48 Comments || Top||



Who's in the News
25[untagged]
5Islamic State
3Commies
3Govt of Iran
2Hezbollah
2Moslem Colonists
2Sublime Porte
1Govt of Syria
1Hamas
1al-Shabaab (AQ)
1Houthis
1al-Nusra
1Taliban
1Narcos
1Palestinian Authority
1Thai Insurgency
1Arab Spring
1Govt of Saudi Arabia

Bookmark
E-Mail Me

The Classics
The O Club
Rantburg Store
The Bloids
The Never-ending Story
Thugburg
Gulf War I
The Way We Were
Bio

Merry-Go-Blog











On Sale now!


A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.

Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.

Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has dominated Mexico for six years.
Click here for more information

Meet the Mods
In no particular order...
Steve White
Seafarious
tu3031
badanov
sherry
ryuge
GolfBravoUSMC
Bright Pebbles
trailing wife
Gloria
Fred
Besoeker
Glenmore
Frank G
3dc
Skidmark

Two weeks of WOT
Tue 2018-11-27
  Somali Muslim Arrested for Attempting to Mow Down Jews With Car in Front of L.A. Synagogue
Mon 2018-11-26
  ISIS-K spokesman killed in Afghan Special Forces operation in Nangarhar
Sun 2018-11-25
  Federal officials close border into Mexico amid migrant protests
Sat 2018-11-24
  U.S. Airstrikes Kill 50 Al-Shabaab Jihadis in Somalia
Fri 2018-11-23
  Terror attack on Chinese Consulate in Karachi foiled; 2 policemen martyred
Thu 2018-11-22
  PA court sentences Palestinians to 15 years hard labor for selling land to Jews
Wed 2018-11-21
  US military says strikes killed over 30 suspected militants in Somalia
Tue 2018-11-20
  Daesh suffers devastating defeat as Syrian Army liberates entire Al-Safa region
Mon 2018-11-19
  Key Taliban commanders among 7 detained by Afghan Commandos in Takhar
Sun 2018-11-18
  43 civilians killed by anti-ISIS coalition strikes in east Syria
Sat 2018-11-17
  Taliban kill 30 policemen in Farah province
Fri 2018-11-16
  Saudi Arabia will BEHEAD Khashoggi killers
Thu 2018-11-15
  Maute brothers' teen cousin surrenders in Mindanao
Wed 2018-11-14
  Ceasefire Goes Into Effect In South Following Unprecedented Rocket Barrage
Tue 2018-11-13
  Gaza factions agree to cease fire if Israel halts attack - Palestinian official

Better than the average link...



Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
3.239.214.173
Help keep the Burg running! Paypal:
WoT Operations (15)    WoT Background (16)    Opinion (5)    (0)    Politix (4)