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Seeking Iran intelligence, U.S. tries Rantburg Google
2006-12-11
Not Scrappleface, alas. But an interesting look at the flabby underbelly of our current intel ops. And 'scuse me while I go get my tinfoil hat, d'ya think Google could and would monitor and tinker with search queries originating from Fed IPs?
When the State Department recently asked the CIA for names of Iranians who could be sanctioned for their involvement in a clandestine nuclear weapons program, the agency refused, citing a large workload and a desire to protect its sources and tradecraft. Frustrated, the State Department assigned a junior Foreign Service officer to find the names another way -- by using Google. Those with the most hits under search terms such as "Iran and nuclear," three officials said, became targets for international rebuke Friday when a sanctions resolution circulated at the United Nations.

Policymakers and intelligence officials have always struggled when it comes to deciding how and when to disclose secret information, such as names of Iranians with suspected ties to nuclear weapons. In some internal debates, policymakers win out and intelligence is made public to further political or diplomatic goals. In other cases, such as this one, the intelligence community successfully argues that protecting information outweighs the desires of some to share it with the world.

But that argument can also put the U.S. government in the awkward position of relying, in part, on an Internet search to select targets for international sanctions.
Posted by:Seafarious

#26  Handy thing, this google.

There were 5 hits for "google is communist," including one from a chap who says that MIT is the center of the communist universe and should be firebombed.
"Google supports terrorism" returned 38 hits.
"Google supports Islam" got 29 hits.
"Google is subversive" also returned 5.

The ever popular "google sucks" and "F*** you, google" returned 37,100 and 5,570 respectively.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy   2006-12-11 22:12  

#25  Forsooth and Fort Smith.
Posted by: Fred   2006-12-11 20:35  

#24  thought it might be SF! not much diff

LOL!
Posted by: RD   2006-12-11 20:10  

#23  Yeah... Sacramento. Lol,
Posted by: .com   2006-12-11 19:48  

#22  Bleeding Heart blogs from the 'Earth's naturally occurring "ENGINE MUFFLER/TAILPIPE"'

/ht our Joe M
Posted by: RD   2006-12-11 19:45  

#21  He said the word and we ate it! Hot Dawg!
Posted by: Alaska Paul   2006-12-11 18:19  

#20  Re - Bleeding Heart.

Well, I've been to one world's fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over (rantburg).

Posted by: Maj. Kong   2006-12-11 18:13  

#19  Would any of Rantburg's Spanish speakers like to help poor Mr. Bleeding Heart understand in his native tongue?

I'm pretty good with the Spanglish but BH's attempt doesn't even qualify for that. BTW BH, what's an agressore? And can it be treated with a cream?
Posted by: Intrinsicpilot   2006-12-11 17:33  

#18  So it is written.

So it shall be done.

Amen.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-12-11 17:17  

#17  Think wisely and ofen.

It is sed, a wise man has a thermometer, but a morons tongue is glued to the pole.

Say Lavee, it is written. Peace be upon Lake Erie and adjoining areas.

It is written.

Posted by: Shipman   2006-12-11 15:21  

#16  ROFLMAO! I'm looking forward to seeing that movie again. It's the best thing on T.V. during Christmas.
Posted by: Mike N.   2006-12-11 14:44  

#15  Anybody got their decoder ring handy? I think Beeding Heart wants us to drink more Ovaltine, but I'd like it verified.
Posted by: tu3031   2006-12-11 14:36  

#14  My nomination for WMD's is "Trial Attornies". Ship them to Iran and solve two problems at once.

Do we send them in by land or -- my preference -- air drop them?
Posted by: Rob Crawford   2006-12-11 14:12  

#13  
My nomination for WMD's is "Trial Attornies". Ship them to Iran and solve two problems at once.
Posted by: Master of Obvious   2006-12-11 14:07  

#12  Bleeding Heart, did your mother never teach you that it's rude to insult your hosts? Obviously you aren't Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Thai, Indian... Would any of Rantburg's Spanish speakers like to help poor Mr. Bleeding Heart understand in his native tongue? His English skills are clearly quite weak, based on the sentence structure and mixture of grammatical formulations.
Posted by: trailing wife   2006-12-11 14:03  

#11  Couldn't we just send them 100+ lbs of Pelosium?

Sorry, SteveS, that would be considered an attack by weapons of mass disruption. You'd get the entire US sanctioned for that.
Posted by: Old Patriot   2006-12-11 13:54  

#10  My name is true. US are aggressores in Asia.

There is no intellegence in US. All estupidos.

Think wisely and ofen.
Posted by: Bleeding Heart   2006-12-11 13:52  

#9  Couldn't we just send them 100+ lbs of Pelosium?
Posted by: SteveS   2006-12-11 11:54  

#8  Thirded.
Posted by: Mike N.   2006-12-11 10:39  

#7  I second Anonymoose's motion.
Posted by: Excalibur   2006-12-11 09:12  

#6  I'm still convinced that the most cost-effective way of neutralizing much of Iran's nuclear program is to smuggle some devices into the facilities that quietly sprays enough highly toxic agent to kill everyone inside and make the place totally unusable.

Not only would the facility be ruined, but the vast majority of Iranian nuclear physicists would be killed, a brain drain.

Polonium 210 would be just perfect for that exercise, don't you think?
Posted by: Anonymoose   2006-12-11 09:01  

#5  So the CIA does not want to work with a junior State dept guy. Agency fears are probable well founded, just by the nature of this report getting out it shows the state still can't keep its mouth shut. This is not an issue of seams between agencies and the CIA closing the door on our State Dept. The State Dept has a great track record of blowing classified info out into the public sector.
Posted by: 49 Pan   2006-12-11 08:39  

#4  I'm sure Fred could be convinced to share Thugburg with them. For a reasonable fee, of course.
Posted by: Steve   2006-12-11 08:28  

#3  Persians v Islamofascism:

http://www.islam-watch.org/AmilImani/RulingMullahsNotIranian.htm
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550   2006-12-11 05:07  

#2  Millions of ethnic minorities and ideological opponents of the Ayatollahs, are more than willing to inform on the Arab wannabes. Intelligence vacuum? Not where you have what the Spooks call "walk-ins."
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550   2006-12-11 04:43  

#1  European officials said their governments did not rely on Google searches but came up with nearly identical lists to the one U.S. officials offered.

So Google worked as well as all those highly paid professional (Euro) spooks.
Posted by: phil_b   2006-12-11 04:42  

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