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Dinesh D'Souza doesn't think the Sunni-Shia split is significant
2007-03-08
I think he's generally wrong about everything Islamic, and he has a bigger megaphone than I do, which makes his wrongness worse. Here's his answer to Time's March 5 cover story, which I grudgingly thought was reasonably accurate and long overdue, except for the obligatory BDS at the end.
Bobby Ghosh's March 5, 2007 cover story in Time does not justify its title, "Why They Hate Each Other," because it doesn't clearly explain why the Shia and the Sunni are fighting each other so fiercely in [Iraq].

The article does, however, support a point I've been making, that the sectarian conflict in is not a religious war between the two groups. In fact, what are the theological differences between a Sunni and a Shia? They scarcely exist. The difference is an argument over the Islamic family tree. The Shia trace legitimate descent to the Prophet Muhammad's son--in-law, Ali, while the Sunni have traditionally accepted the various caliphs and sultans who have ruled Islamic empires over the centuries as legitimately installed by Allah.

Ghosh's article has an interesting, and unintentionally amusing, list of differences between Sunni and Shia. Here's how to tell them apart.

NAMES: The Shia have names like Abdel-Hussein and Abdel-Zahra. The Sunni have names like Omar and Uthman.

PRAYER: "Typically Sunnis pray with one arm folded over the other, just below the rib cage. Shia prefer to keep their arms straight down at their sides."

MOSQUES: Sunni mosques tend to have domes and minarets while Shia worship at places "which combine the functions of a mosque and community center and don't necessarily have domes."

OUTFITS: "Shia clerics in are often more elaborately attired than their Sunni counterparts, wearing white, black or green headgear. The Sunni clergy generally wear white headgear."

HOMES: Shia Muslims like portraits, while "Sunnis tend to favor calligraphy."

ACCENTS: Since the Shia live mainly in the south of , they speak "with a pronounced southern accent." The Sunni tend to exhibit the tones associated with Anbar province where they predominate.

My conclusion? We've got to stop treating the Sunni-Shia difference as a replay of the historical conflict between the Catholics and the Protestants in Europe . The Catholics and Protestants were split over creedal differences, and at one time theose were so deeply-held that people were willing to go to war over them. But there is nothing resembling this in the Muslim world today. A new intellectual map is needed.
Mostly I don't understand why the actions of the followers of Mohammed are never their fault, it's always some outside influence that drives them to the depths of evil. Where's the accountability?
Posted by:Seafarious

#8  Dinesh D'Souza doesn't think the Sunni-Shia split is significant

There - fixed that for ya'
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut   2007-03-08 23:28  

#7  Now, if they were denying that the split was significant in contrast to getting together to kill the kuffir, that might be different...
Posted by: Ernest Brown   2007-03-08 09:15  

#6  lol, NS. True, so true!
Posted by: BA   2007-03-08 09:07  

#5  is there a downside to this infighting?

Neither side can fire with sufficient accuracy.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble   2007-03-08 08:59  

#4  Great summary, TW. As a Christian, I abhor death, but this Sunni-Shi'a "divide" has got me questioning...which side to root for? Kinda like the Hamas/Fatah "civil war" in Paleoland, is there a downside to this infighting?
Posted by: BA   2007-03-08 08:54  

#3  The meme that the split between Sunni and Shia is a trifling matter not worth thinking about is the latest thing. I heard the head of the Middle East (or something like that) program at Duke University interviewed on NPR yesterday. In addition to the usual blithering about how Al Qaeda is misquoting the peace-endorsing Koran, he took the same line that the only real difference between Sunni and Shia is whether their religious leaders are also the political leaders. The Sunni caliphs are both supreme ruler and final religious authority, whereas the Shiite ayatollahs restrict themselves to religious matters, leaving the tedious necessities of ordering people around to the Shah of Iran and such. At that point I switched stations, lest the car have a dreadful accident. It wouldn't have done for them to find me after, arguing that the religious wars of Europe over the primacy of the pope in the years after Martin Luther scribbled a few thoughts on the subject... well, that those wars appeared to be over an issue equally trifling to the outsider.
Posted by: trailing wife   2007-03-08 07:20  

#2  Effective immediately: "Pundit" status will be reviewed monthly. Anyone with Sudden-Moron-Syndrome will lose rank.

FYI: Muslim Brotherhood members are using YouTube to advance their fascist agenda. Scroll down on this Arab post and you can read an English language post on the subject (there are 4 YouTube posts on one page):

http://freedyaa.blogspot.com
Posted by: Sneaze   2007-03-08 06:47  

#1  In fact, what are the theological differences between a Sunni and a Shia?

Moron.
Posted by: gromgoru   2007-03-08 05:35  

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