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'Magic is over' for U.S., says French FM
2008-03-13
PARIS: Bernard Kouchner, the foreign minister of France and a longtime humanitarian, diplomatic and political activist on the international scene, says that whoever succeeds President George W. Bush may restore something of the United States' battered image and standing overseas, but that "the magic is over."
Can't you just hear the sneer?
In a wide-ranging conversation with Roger Cohen of the International Herald Tribune at the launch of a Forum for New Diplomacy in Paris, Kouchner on Tuesday also held out the hope of talking with Hamas, the Palestinian faction that rules the Gaza Strip but has been ostracized by the West and by its Palestinian rival, Fatah, because it opposes peace talks with Israel and denies that Israel has a right to exist.

Asked whether the United States could repair the damage it has suffered to its reputation during the Bush presidency and especially since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, Kouchner replied, "It will never be as it was before."

"I think the magic is over," he continued, in what amounted to a sober assessment from one of the strongest supporters in France of the United States.

U.S. military supremacy endures, Kouchner noted, and the new president "will decide what to do - there are many means to re-establish the image." But even that, he predicted, "will take time."
There isn't enough time in the world to 'repair' our image with the Y'urp-peon elites. And there certainly isn't sufficient motivation.
Kouchner began the 90-minute event with a speech that emphasized that "there is not just a new diplomacy; there is a new world."
Sounds like Chirac talking about a new 'multi-polar' world, a world in which France would be seen as important. The French intellectuals never change.
To those intimidated by or fearful of what seem to be the rising challenges of globalization, climate change, spreading disease or new technology, Kouchner had a simple message: "The great difficulty is to accept this new world."

"There are not more problems - please, have a little memory - than 35 years ago," he said, recalling how, in 1971, he co-founded Médecins Sans Frontières in response to the horrors of the conflict in Nigeria over Biafra.

The challenges may be daunting, he said, noting for instance that the world had decided to act to curb the AIDS epidemic, but asking, "Can we take charge of all the other diseases? I'm not sure."

Some of the most persistent diplomatic challenges emanate from the Middle East, and Kouchner was asked about approaches to Iran, whose president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has called for the destruction of Israel, or to Hamas, which has the same stated goal. Kouchner and other European diplomats have tried to talk Iran out of its controversial nuclear program, but officially rejected all contacts with Hamas, which is listed as a terrorist group by the United States and the European Union. Asked whether there is a way to engage Hamas, which is supported by a significant minority of Palestinians, Kouchner appeared to hold out hope of contact, saying: "I'm looking for a diplomatic way to say yes."

He then carefully couched this statement by noting that, in general, "we have to talk with our enemies," and that Fatah, which controls the West Bank, "always said they were in favor" of unity talks with Hamas. But after Hamas routed Fatah forces from Gaza in June, the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah, has refused to deal with Hamas, which he accused of committing a coup. Kouchner, of the Socialist left in France, stirred controversy when he accepted the offer from President Nicolas Sarkozy, leader of the Gaullist center-right, to join his government last May.

At the end of the conversation, held in a glittering hall at the Académie Diplomatique Internationale, the IHT's partner in the new diplomatic forum, Kouchner denied that his activism had been curbed by the need to run the resplendent Foreign Ministry on the Quai d'Orsay and France's large diplomatic machinery around the world. But he conceded that practicing the new diplomacy - which he defined as being action that is more practical, multifaceted and realistic than mere protocol calls and visits - "is very difficult, and very time-consuming."
Posted by:Steve White

#16  The biggest difference between France and the US is illustrated by our respective revolutions. The US started with the Declaration of Independence and ended with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The French Revolution is best known for the guillotine, Madame De Farge, and Robespierre. The US fought to establish the freedoms of man, the French to kill people they didn't like.
Posted by: RWV   2008-03-13 23:09  

#15  But there is a Paris in Texas ...
Posted by: DMFD   2008-03-13 22:56  

#14  Glenmore - that's part of my point about Texas, but they're trying:

http://www.texaswinetrail.com/index.html
Posted by: Harcourt Jush7795   2008-03-13 20:52  

#13  Merde! It is zee Americans and they have zee guns! Allez Allez!
Posted by: Bangkok Billy   2008-03-13 19:58  

#12  Valid point, Harcourt, but name a good wine made in Texas.
Posted by: Glenmore   2008-03-13 19:56  

#11  But the lingering French jealousy is not over...
Posted by: Thusoting Dark Lord of the Nebraskans3561   2008-03-13 19:51  

#10  Glenmore's correct, to an extent. Perhaps the shortest reference to differences is that there is no Texas in France.
Posted by: Harcourt Jush7795   2008-03-13 19:03  

#9  "Free Ride Is Over For French, Say Americans"

Posted by: FOTSGreg   2008-03-13 18:05  

#8  The US and France are a lot alike, it seems to me. We sneer at them and they sneer at us. Here at the 'burg we may fool ourselves, but by and large, both France and the US are now pretty much dominated by an effete liberal leadership (political, educational and media) and their ignorant/bought/deluded followers. And we both enjoy good wine, from grapes grown at home.
Posted by: Glenmore   2008-03-13 18:00  

#7  I'm not sure the magic survived Chiraq and his anti-Anglo propoganda to prop up Gualism after the French WW2's shame. Since then it is not enough to be proud to be French, they must tear down others which is pretty pathetic. The French should define themselves on their own terms, and that is of course their love for Jerry Lewis.

I also think the same was probably said during Vietnam.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2008-03-13 17:03  

#6  The magic died after the French revolution. After that, France has never really been a friend or a ally.
Posted by: DarthVader   2008-03-13 14:37  

#5  I might believe what he had to say if the French didn't pee in the street....
Posted by: USN, Ret.   2008-03-13 14:12  

#4  So at least we know who to go to for tips on how to deal with it, seeing how France has had about a ninety year headstart.
Whatever happened to that pretty man with the sash?
Posted by: tu3031   2008-03-13 14:04  

#3  Must have been put on hold while calling Condelisa Rice.

On a more serious note, I didn't even know the magic had even started.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al   2008-03-13 13:52  

#2  They tried so hard to civilize zee Americans, who are nothing but a bunch of cowboy gangsters anyway. But zay still do not appreciate zee magic and artistry of Jerry Lewis.
Posted by: Anonymoose   2008-03-13 13:52  

#1  Bernard Kouchner, the foreign minister of France and a longtime humanitarian, diplomatic and political activist on the international scene is a douche bag with cheese halitosis.
Posted by: RD   2008-03-13 13:45  

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