The Kingdom will soon root out the deviant group, declared Prince Sultan, second deputy premier and minister of defense and aviation, in reference to the ongoing campaign against Al-Qaeda sympathizers blamed for a series of bombings and shootouts across the country over the past 16 months. "Islamic history like world history is full of such deviant groups who appear abruptly triggering violence but disappear quickly. This group will also be crushed as they are deviants who will not last long," Prince Sultan told the Lebanese magazine Al-Sayyad. He said terrorism and violence were not a new phenomena. "We have seen violence in Europe and the United States. This reminds us that they do not occur because of Islamic reasons," he pointed out.
Except that this batch of terrorism is occurring for Islamic reasons...
He highlighted the government's efforts to contain terrorism and flush out terrorists. Prince Sultan said terrorism and violence would not receive any acceptability at Islamic and social levels, adding that Saudis would not accept destruction of the country's property and weakening of its relations with other countries or damaging the national economy. "The Kingdom's anti-terrorist operations cannot be called a war, because this deviant group does not deserve such a big word. Iman or faith in God is our main weapon to confront these renegades because those who believe in the right doctrine will have strong faith," he added. He said the anti-terror campaign was not targeting Islam.
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Please! give me a freeking break. How many jihadis has the "Prince" personally funded?
We may need your oil but you are not the west friends. Some of the folk in the west know that. We know when you are blowing smoke "Prince."
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I'd start at that goat beauty pageant, then the moskkks or vice versa
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Islamic history like world history is full of such deviant groups who appear abruptly triggering violence but disappear quickly. This group will also be crushed as they are deviants who will not last long
Yeah, deviant? {Bleeeet} GOATIE GOATIE COME HERE
NICE GOATIE...
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#2 Made a good point, what did he say in Arabic, because both versions are always different. As far as I remember the so called Fucking Royal Family is also a member of deviant Salafist Cult, when will they be Booted out.
An Internet periodical considered the voice of al-Qaida's operations in Saudi Arabia claimed the terror network was responsible for the shooting death of a British national in the Saudi capital of Riyadh a week ago. The authenticity of the claim, which appeared in the Voice of Jihad, could not be verified, as is typical of such claims posted on sites known for their Islamic militant content. The statement, signed by the Al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, said one of its units had monitored the "British infidel" and killed him in one of the markets. Gunmen shot dead Edward Stuart Muirhead-Smith in the parking lot of the Max shopping center in eastern Riyadh on Sept. 15. Muirhead-Smith, 55, worked for the British telecommunications corporation Marconi as a training manager. The statement described Marconi as "one of the colonial, crusader companies providing services to the (Saudi) National Guard." The killing serves "as a message to the crusaders ... to avenge oppressed Muslims everywhere" and to drive infidels from Arab land. "They will not wander at will in security while they instill fear in our brothers in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine," said the statement.
How about your 'brothers' in Sudan? I don't see you avenging them anytime soon...
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El Salvador on Tuesday expelled two men believed to be Jordanians who presented false documents that led some regional officials to wonder if they might be terrorists _ a question that remained open even as they flew off. Salvadoran Immigration Director Wilfredo Rosales said the men were placed on a commercial flight to Mexico, where they were to transfer to a flight to Europe and then another to Jordan. "At this moment we cannot say if they are or are not terrorists," he said. "It's a pretty big question." The men had arrived in the country as in-transit passengers, expelled from Costa Rica and supposedly headed for Honduras. As a result, Rosales said, Salvadoran authorities could not legally intervene. On Monday, Costa Rica's immigration director Marco Badilla said the men had been deported after arriving in his country with well-crafted European passports. He said they had apparently been headed for Canada.
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thanks for releasing them...nice assistance
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The article means to say that they could not hold them long enough to run some checks on them? WTF? What if it was Binny or someone who was a real terrorist? The Salvadorian gov't must be kidding. This is assinine.
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Salvadoran Immigration Director Wilfredo Rosales said the men were placed on a commercial flight to Mexico, where they were to transfer to a flight to Europe and then another to Jordan.
Oh yeah, they're going to transfer to a flight to Jordan upon arriving in Mexico. Uh huh. Sure.
An former Soviet army soldier whose relatives were told he died a hero in the Afghan war nearly two decades ago and were given a coffin to bury appeared in an Uzbek courtroom Tuesday accused of membership in an al-Qaida-allied terrorist group. Kosim Ermatov, 38, was extradited from Pakistan in June and is facing charges he belongs to the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, his relatives said. He could face the death penalty if convicted of the most serious terrorism charges. "We haven't seen him since he went to army service in 1984. In 1986, we received a death certificate and we buried a zinc coffin," his sister, Dilfuza Ermatova, said outside the courtroom. The family was told that Ermatov was a hero, was awarded a high Soviet medal the Order of the Red Star and a school and street in his native village in eastern Namangan were named after him, said his mother, Kumrihon Temirova. Ermatov served as a truck driver in the war and was said to have died in an explosion with other soldiers, and his sister said the family was told not to open the coffin.
They heard he was actually alive five years later in 1991, when a Czech journalist came to the village and said Ermatov was still living in Afghanistan. But Ermatov never contacted the family, who didn't believe the journalist and thought he was still dead. Nonetheless, authorities immediately renamed the school and took away the medal. Relatives said Ermatov was extradited from Pakistan in June but didn't know the details of why or when he was arrested. His lawyer refused to comment, and officials refused to allow journalists into the hearing at Tashkent's city court. In the trial Tuesday, four witnesses testified they saw Ermatov in the late 1990s in Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan training camps in Afghanistan, Ermatova said. They said he was a driver and they never saw him fighting, she said. Ermatov has maintained he is an Afghan citizen and demanded that an Afghan Embassy official be present in court, and also requested that his state-appointed lawyer be replaced, his sister said. The family said they have also learned that Ermatov now has a family and five children in Pakistan. "We are happy he is alive no matter even if he is on trial," Ermatova said.
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The family better hang on to the coffin; Kosim will probably need it in the near future. After the murders of the school children in Beslan, the Russians are not going to be very lenient with guys like this.
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A woman who was allegedly prepared to carry out a suicide attack has been detained in Chechnya, the Interfax news agency reported on Tuesday. The agency reported that the operation to detain the suspected terrorist had been conducted by the Federal Security Service together with Interior Ministry troops in the Urus-Martan District of the Chechen Republic. The name of the detainee was reported as Natalya Khalkayeva, she is originally from Kurgan Region in South-West Siberia. According to law enforcement sources, a so-called "shaheed belt" - a belt stuffed with one kilogram of Semtex explosives with nuts and bolts added as projectiles was seized from the woman when she was detained. The suspect was also carrying a satellite telephone. A criminal case has been instigated into the incident.
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Friendly advice to the FSS in Chechnya:
Let's not have Natalya suffer mysterious heart attack. Something more creative. For instance : she slipped and hit her head on the cement walls of her cell. Or, there was a flood at the prison, and she drown in her cell. Gotta vary the tactics, boys...
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Her belt went off in the cell. Alas, the guards
were only watching via close circuit tv so they
weren't hurt. She did, however, take a few other
detainees with her.
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Muck4doo, they have no pictures for the same reason many Islamic nations force their women to wear Burkhas or cover their faces. Sometimes its best not to ask why, just to accept the judgment of those in the know.
Italian and Lebanese authorities have arrested 10 alleged terrorists, thwarting plans to blow up the Italian Embassy in Beirut in a car bomb attack, the Italian news agency ANSA said Tuesday. Plans for the attack were in an advanced phase, ANSA said. Police also seized about 220 pounds of explosives, the Italian news agency said. Defense Minister Antonio Martino issued a statement to thank the Italian military intelligence service, SISMI, which carried out the operation in cooperation with Libanese and Syrian authorities. According to ANSA, the arrests were carried out in Lebanon. The suspects, whose nationalities were not immediately clear, were alleged to be members of a Lebanese cell of the Salafist Group for Call and Combat, an extremist organization believed to have ties to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida, ANSA said.
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sounds like Syria's trying to put on the "good neighbor, don't bomb me" face
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The Pentagon has established a new military headquarters whose mission is to defend the nation's capital and to assist civil authorities in responding to a terrorist attack here. The Joint Forces Headquarters for the National Capital Region (search) is based at Fort McNair, a small Army post in Washington on the banks of the Anacostia River whose fortifications did not stop the British from invading in 1814 and burning the White House and Capitol.
The idea of the new Joint Forces Headquarters is not to fend off foreign armies but to prevent if possible — and respond to, if not — surprise attack by terrorists using nuclear, chemical, biological or other unconventional means, Army Maj. Gen. Galen B. Jackson said Monday. "There are vulnerabilities in the nation's capital," he said without being specific.
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EFL - I thought the HQ to protect the Capitol was the Pentagon
No. The Pentagon is a military office building and not a secure, defensible installation -- hell, it's got its own subway stop and bus loading area. The Pentagon is a target, not a headquarters.
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I've been to a couple of functions at Ft. McNair and I know exactly why HQ is being sited there...it's absolutely beautiful! Stunning river views, golf course, pool, lots of green space, stately homes for the officers; truly the only choice in Washington for your discriminating (insert acronym for the guy whose job it is to pick these sorts of things).
Four months after the FBI apologized for wrongly arresting a Portland attorney for ties to the March 11 Madrid train bombings, a federal judge on Monday unsealed a document that prosecutors say lends support to the government's decision to keep Brandon Mayfield detained for two weeks.
The document details evidence gathered after Mayfield's arrest, including that his computer had been used to view Web sites for the Spanish national rail system and to search for plane tickets to Spain, that Mayfield had once taken flight lessons, and that a September 2001 note found at Mayfield's house expressed support for the Taliban.
Karin Immergut, the U.S. Attorney in Oregon, wrote in a legal motion that although the evidence does not alter the government's admission that Mayfield is innocent, it proves prosecutors did not have a "callous disregard" for civil rights when FBI agents detained Mayfield from May 6 to May 20.
Attorneys for Mayfield say there were innocent explanations for the new information, much of which they said came from the homework and journal of Mayfield's 12-year-old daughter.
Attorney Gerry Spence said the government is trying to justify a faulty investigation that profiled Mayfield, a convert to Islam, by his religious beliefs, and that became an embarrassment for the Justice Department's war on terrorism.
"What they did is demonize Mr. Mayfield, who is a good American citizen and who the government admits has nothing to do with Madrid," Spence said.
Mayfield was released after the FBI admitted it had wrongly matched his fingerprints to those found on a bag containing detonators like those used in the attacks on trains in Madrid that killed nearly 200 people and wounded 2,000. He was never charged with a crime.
Federal prosecutors asked Judge Robert E. Jones to release the 49-page document unsealed Monday because Mayfield is planning a civil lawsuit against the government for his arrest as a material witness. The evidence it lists was gathered from Mayfield's home May 6-10 while he was detained.
Agents found his computer had been used to research airline schedules from Portland to Madrid in September and October 2003, and to access Web sites marketing rental housing in Spain, and sites for the Spanish national rail system that became the target of the March attack, according to the document.
Agents also found a handwritten note with a phone number in Spain, two firearms and a note written in September 2001 - apparently by Mayfield - expressing support for the Taliban, the fundamentalist Islamic regime in Afghanistan that harbored al-Qaida and was driven from power by a U.S. invasion in late 2001.
Mayfield's co-counsel Elden Rosenthal said that what the document describes as a pro-Taliban note was actually an entry from his daughter Sharia's journal that read: "Who is America to bomb the Taliban because they don't like Afghanistan's law? All I say that Americans should think twice about the example you are setting on the rest of the countries."
Spence said the Spain-related Web sites were accessed by Mayfield's daughter when she worked on a school homework assignment to plan a fantasy vacation.
The phone number in Spain was for an exchange program Mayfield's wife, Mona, had been interested in for their elder son, Spence said.
Spence said the government picked and chose "just those items that would make the Mayfield family look suspicious" from thousands of items on the family's hard drives.
"This is the government acting as big brother, and it's frightening," Spence said.
The U.S. Attorney's office could not be reached for comment after working hours Monday.
In Mayfield's initial arrest affidavit, the government had cited as supporting evidence for the arrest Mayfield's attendance at a local mosque, and phone calls placed to an Islamic charity later linked to terrorism.
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in other words, he's guilty, but they chose to let him go.
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Attorney Gerry Spence said the government is trying to justify a faulty investigation that profiled Mayfield, a convert to Islam, by his religious beliefs, and that became an embarrassment for the Justice Departmentâs war on terrorism.
Actually, Mayfield probably isn't guilty, since his lawyer, Gerry Spence, apparently doesn't pick losing cases.
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oh please. Like his 12 year old daughter, named "sharia" came up with that sentiment all on her own.
Agents found his computer had been used to research airline schedules from Portland to Madrid in September and October 2003, and to access Web sites marketing rental housing in Spain, and sites for the Spanish national rail system that became the target of the March attack, according to the document.
And, correct me if I'm wrong - but you generally don't need "rental housing" when on an exchange program.
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in other words, he's guilty, but they chose to let him go.
Having sympathies doesn't automatically make the guy guilty. The details that have been outlined are somewhat eyebrow-raising, but not clear evidence of complicity, and as a result not much can be done. Now had the fingerprint thing panned out, things might have turned out differently.
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The system worked - Mayfield's not been convicted, has he? Nah - we're going to wait till he actually blows someone up before convicting him - if we can prove it.
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I didn't say Spence was a good lawyer. He finds no-lose cases, cases he think he can't possibly lose. I read part of his vitae. The man has never lost a jury trial in his life. Now, either a) he is a very good litigaor or b) he trades in cases he knows he can't lose. I vote b).
The Abu Sayaff rebel group has been accused of conducting a fresh series of attacks in the southern Philippines. Our correspondent in Manila, Shirley Escalante, reports 40 bandits stormed two villages in the south Monday and held about 30 families hostage. The bandits then fled to the mountains carrying the villagers produce. There are no reports of casualties. Last week, a band of 30 extremists attacked a police detachment in the southern Philippines. This prompted a gun battle which injured a soldier and an undetermined number of bandits. Meantime a Philippine congressman says he received reports that two top leaders of the the Abu Sayaff group have recently escaped to Malaysia. The military says it is still verifying this report with Malaysian authorities.
INDONESIAN police fear the terrorist masterminds of the Australian embassy bombing in Jakarta are planning deadly attacks every six months. They also say that al-Qaeda money was used by the South East Asia-based Jemaah Islamiah group to fund the September 9 blast as well as last year's Marriott Hotel suicide attack in the Indonesian capital. Police sources said Malaysian bomb maker Azahari Husin and bag man Noordin Mohammed Top were aiming to increase the tempo of attacks, which have claimed 223 lives since the Bali bombings of 2002. "If within six months they have no chances, then it will be done in the next six months," a senior police source was quoted today as saying by the Republika newspaper.
Azahari, the bespectacled British-trained geophysics professor, and Noordin are currently being hunted across Indonesia by US-trained anti-terrorist squads. The pair have escaped police dragnets twice before in the Java highlands. "Some snipers from police headquarters in Jakarta have already deployed in Yogyakarta," a police source said. Investigators believe Azahari might have fled there, while Noordin had headed for the central Java city of Bandung, the paper said. Azahari, a master of disguise, had chosen Yogyakarta because he knew the area well.
Oh, Gawd. Masterminds™. Masters of Disguise™. Next up: International Men of Mystery™.
It has a multicultural population of students and visitors, as well as a maze of narrow alleys, ideal for fleeing pursuing police.
... while holding the edge of one's cape over the face and laughing maniacally...
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hmmm.....new strategy? Apache follows a Blackhawk and takes out the idjits after they miss with a rocket?
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Somebody took a page out of the Vietnam handbook where Cobras followed the Hueys and waited for Charley to stick his head up. What's old is new again. Of course, it still sucks to be the bait.
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An Islamic Web site posting Tuesday claimed an al-Qaida related group slaughtered a second American hostage in Iraq, an announcement that came as the group's 24-hour deadline for meeting its demands exipred. "The nation's zealous sons slaughtered the second American hostage ... after the end of the deadline," said the statement, which was posted under the pseudonym Abu Maysara al-Iraqi. The authenticity of the claim could not be verified. However, al-Iraqi has posted past statements on behalf of Tawhid and Jihad, a militant group led by Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. A similar announcement posted by al-Iraqi preceded the Monday night release of graphic footage of the beheading of American construction engineer Eugene Armstrong. Tawhid and Jihad has demanded all Muslim women held by the U.S. military in Iraq be freed. Tuesday's brief statement did not identify the latest victim by name, but militants said during the video of Armstrong's killing that they would kill within 24 hours another of the two hostages abducted with him American Jack Hensley or Briton Kenneth Bigley. Tuesday night's statement said the American had been killed and that the video would be posted soon.
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Where is the outrage? It is amazing but it seems that Americans have already become used to watching their country men being decapitated by those turds (read muslims). The first decapitation brought about a series of anti-muslim sentiments and actions. Now, it is not even news.
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It's been news on Fox all day - the Brit is next. Unfortunately, when you've been abducted by psycho-killers, you're dfead the minute they get you, the rest is details and propaganda. Take the gloves off, now!
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I have a hard time conceptualize myself being a victim. If I were in their place, I would do whatever is possible to take one or more of these bastards with me.
A militant group headed by al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al Zarqawi denied on Monday it had bought two Italian women hostages from their Iraqi captors, an Internet statement said. The statement, which could not be immediately verified, was posted a day after Iraq's deputy foreign minister was quoted as saying the kidnappers of charity workers Simona Pari and Simona Torretta had possibly sold them to the Tawhid and Jihad group. "The Tawhid and Jihad group affirms to all that the report that we bought the Italians is a lie," it said. "We urge the brothers and sisters not to be hasty in picking up news."
In a television interview, Iraqi Deputy Foreign Minister Hamid al-Bayati said he had received information that the two women had been transferred from western Baghdad to the restive town of Falluja. "From the information at our disposal, they were kidnapped by criminal organizations that could have sold them to members of al-Zarqawi's group," he said, according to Italian state news agency ANSA. The Italians were kidnapped at gunpoint along with two Iraqis in a brazen, daylight attack in the center of Baghdad on Sept. 7. Bayati said he believed the women were being held by the same militants who threatened to kill one British and two American hostages in an Internet video. Tawhid and Jihad said on Saturday it had kidnapped the three Westerners and vowed to kill them by Monday if Iraqi women prisoners were not released. On Monday, the group beheaded one of the hostages and posted the killing on the Internet.
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From the porthole of his bunker just outside the city, U.S. Marine Capt. Jeff Stevenson could see no more than the first few rows of brick-and-concrete homes along Fallujah's urban fringe as he squinted into the setting desert sun. But his obscured view was enough to sense trouble. A half-dozen houses were flattened. Others were punched with tank rounds. Each of them, Stevenson said, had been used by insurgents to fire at his bunker, which is fortified with dirt-filled mesh barriers.
Iraqi police officers and National Guardsmen, who should have been patrolling the streets, were nowhere to be found. A dusty pile of canvas 100 yards away provided the only reminder of the Fallujah Brigade, the now-disbanded Iraqi security force that was supposed to restore order here. The canvas had been one of brigade's tents. It was gunned down after several members took potshots at Stevenson's men. "Fallujah has become a cancer," declared Stevenson, echoing a metaphor used by several senior U.S. commanders in Iraq.
A collection of anti-American forces -- former Baath Party loyalists, Islamic extremists and foreign militants -- have been expanding their presence in Fallujah since the Marines withdrew from positions in the city in April and handed over responsibility for security to the Fallujah Brigade. According to U.S. military officials and residents, the insurgents have since taken over the local government, co-opted and cowed Iraqi security forces, and turned the area into a staging ground for terrorist attacks in Baghdad, located about 35 miles to the east. But the U.S. military command in Iraq is in no hurry to order the Marines back into the city. Officers such as Stevenson, a tall Californian whose unit, the 2nd Battalion of the 1st Marine Regiment, would be among the front-line forces in an offensive, are biding their time in bunkers and observation posts outside Fallujah. Most of their days are spent keeping a highway around the city free of roadside bombs.
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Interesting that residents are fighting with the "foreign fighters" because of the air strikes. Sounds like the US has found some ways of separating the nut jobs from the populace. I imagine UAVs and night vision equipment also play a role.
I also find it interesting when there is a tidbit about Sufi Islam. Some people theorize that Sufism is a pre-Islamic remnant, perhaps of Christian or pre-Christian origin. Like Christianity, its emphasis is on love, very un-Islamic.
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Love's overrated. Reciprocity's much more reliable.
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Sounds like the US has found some ways of separating the nut jobs from the populace.
While this sounds like a good tactic, the only nagging problem with this approach is that it exposes U.S. forces to hostile fire for a longer period of time, IMO unnecessarily. If American forces are going to take casualties, and there will be some, it would be preferable that they happen under a clear engagement where the enemy is in jeopardy of being thoroughly stomped, instead of under some sort of holding pattern where the enemy has the time to kill one soldier here, another over there, and so on. If this sounds familiar, well, it should.
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WaPo: Neighbors interviewed by an Iraqi journalist working for The Washington Post described a different outcome. They said six people were killed: two foreign fighters meeting in the targeted house and a family of four -- a father, mother and two children -- living next door.
Note that WaPo will always mention that accounts could not be "independently verified", but neglect to mention that those who spoke out against the guerrillas have in the past been killed. It hasn't noted that these might be hostile civilians with a stake in exaggerating civlian casualties.
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I see a two-way street. The boyz see Fallujah as a stronghold, from which to launch an ever-expanding territory grab. This is a traditional view. However, the *counter* to this is the realization that Fallujah can be used as a magnet to attract boyz from outlying areas. The masters in Fallujah keep calling in more and more reinforcements to support their "breakout" plan, and the US keeps cutting them down. What seems like a stalemate is actually an effective attrition of boyz. Think of Fallujah as "Fort Zindernuf", an isolated outpost that accomplishes nothing, yet is a death trap for those who are sent there.
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Anonymoose: Think of Fallujah as "Fort Zindernuf", an isolated outpost that accomplishes nothing, yet is a death trap for those who are sent there.
It may be useful to let the guerrillas build up a redoubt that grows in stature, and assumes mythical proportions. And then destroy them. Only then will their illusions be shattered. They will then have been defeated not only in the physical sense, but spiritually as well.
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It may be useful to let the guerrillas build up a redoubt that grows in stature, and assumes mythical proportions. And then destroy them.
The question is how? If an aerial bombardment is the preferred method, then that's fine, but what if it's necessary to send in ground forces? I'm thinking booby traps and the like, things that would be less likely if the enemy wasn't given all this time to operate in Fallujah unhindered.
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I think the next, and last, offensive in Fallujah will be quite different from the last one, and may involve a substantial element of surprise. The jihadis have prepared, as best they can, for another round of gradual street to street attrition. Other possbilities could well be outside their imagination at this point, which is another good reason to go for something completely different next time.
I have good reason to believe that the US forces are about to introduce a rather dramatic new technology, one whose existence has not been publicly revealed and whose nature has not even been the object of speculation. Can't say more but it has to do with mobility.
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Memesis and Bulldog are both on the right track.
Do y'all remember that special reverse-JATO C-130 they cobbled up for a second Iran hostage try back in 1980? It crashed during flight-test and the mission was cancelled, but keep in mind that this was 24 years ago.
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Brett, We went in to stop the development of WMD, not to expand it.
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I think what AC is talking about is somehow Rummy has gained control of the giant spiders of the desert(tm) and convinced them to kill all Allan followers!
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Ooooh, don't tease us! What is it? Zionest Death Rays? Teleporting Jarheads? Black Helicopters of Ultimate Doom and Terror?
:)
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Old Spook, are they stuck there? My impression is that Zarqawi is in Baghdad.
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(I'm still running clutching Bulldog's Segway Theorem)
Can you picture the Marines riding triumphantly into Fallujah on Battle Segways to the thundering sound of Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries? Legendary and iconic. To be immortalised in a scene from the yet-to-be-made Apocalypse Now of the post Sinclair-C5 generation.
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Super Hose, it may be the case that Zarqawi slips between places. Which may indicate that his ego got inflated as he considers himself invincible. That is the beginning of his downfall.
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The US military is training its guns now on one of the most intractable challenges to January elections in Iraq: the city of Fallujah. The Sunni city is seen as a base of operations for Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian militant accused by US officials of terrorist plots in at least four countries and of ties to Al Qaeda. Mr. Zarqawi's Iraq-based group, Tawhid and Jihad, claims responsibility for beheading hostages, kidnappings - including two Americans and a Briton last week - attacks on churches, and the bombings of Iraqi police stations that have left more than 400 people dead.
US bombs rain down almost daily on Fallujah, targeting alleged Zarqawi associates and killing roughly 70 people this month. But some terrorism analysts, and old associates who spent time with Zarqawi in a Jordan prison, say he runs an organization separate from Al Qaeda. They say that killing the poorly educated, tattooed Jordanian - or many of his followers - will do little to slow the wave of terrorist attacks inside Iraq. "Just like with Osama, if you were to kill him today, it wouldn't make a difference at all to these networks he's helped create,'' says Rohan Gunaratna, a counterterrorism expert and author of "Inside Al Qaeda." "While much of the suicide bombing in Iraq is coordinated by his network, it's being driven from the bottom up. Regional and local operational leaders plan and execute attacks. Zarqawi probably doesn't know much about them ahead of time and he doesn't need to."
This doesn't mean the shadowy Zarqawi isn't an important contributor to Iraq's instability. But analysts such as Mr. Gunaratna say that his importance lies in having used contacts developed while living in Afghanistan between 1999 and 2002 to stitch together a loose network of likeminded militants stretching from Iraq north through Turkey and into Europe. Zarqawi is just the most visible figure today in a tight-knit group of operatives, many with guerrilla and terrorist training gained in Afghanistan.
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Sounds like an alliance between a paranoid schizophrenic and a bunch of psychopaths.
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"While much of the suicide bombing in Iraq is coordinated by his network, itâs being driven from the bottom up. Regional and local operational leaders plan and execute attacks. Zarqawi probably doesnât know much about them ahead of time and he doesnât need to."
If this means that every last terrorist has to be killed, then that can be easily arranged.
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It will be satisfying, indeed, when this boil is lanced. We need to sow dissension and paranoia in teh group with the continued bombing - "who's giving out the intel to the infidels? who is the traitor?"
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Two of the closest allies of Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi have been killed in air strikes over Fallujah, according to reports. Kuwaiti newspaper "Alray-Alam" identifies them as Abu Mohamed al Lyubnani, believed to be the right hand of the leader of Al-Qaeda-linked Tawhid and Jihad group, and Abu Ans Ash-Shami, spiritual leader of the militant group. According to the reports the two have been killed during the US bomb attacks last week.
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good news if true but Kuwaiti newspapers are sometimes as full of errors as the CBS
A group of armed Islamic extremists who set up a fake security checkpoint on a main road in Algeria killed four travellers and abducted a woman, local newspapers said on Monday. The attack took place on Saturday evening on a main road near the village of Kalous in Bouira province, about 120km south-east of the capital Algiers, the reports said. The group robbed some travellers and killed four, before fleeing with the woman. One newspaper, Le Jeune Independant, said the assailants belonged to a faction of the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat. It was not known how many people took part in the attack.
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Check out the Salafish combat, loot rob, kidnap & rape. Never stand and fight like a man.
EFL
... Even more alarming is the spillover effect of the violence that began in South Waziristan's Wana valley and then spread to Shakai, both inhabited by the Pashtun tribe of Ahmadzai Wazir. The fighting has now moved to places such as Karwan Minza, Kaniguram, Makeen and Laddah, all populated by the more numerous Mahsud tribe. Moreover, hostilities have spilled over to the neighbouring North Waziristan tribal agency, prompting the Pakistan Army to launch military operations there as well. It has over-stretched the military's resources in an area where there were almost [no] Pakistani troops in the past and exposed the soldiers to ambushes, landmine explosions and rocketing in some of the most rugged and treacherous terrain in the world.
The spread of insurgency to the Mahsud tribal territory could have dire consequences. The Mahsuds, a warlike Pashtun tribe described by some British colonial officers and writers as wolves for their shrewdness and cunningness, constitute around 75 per cent population of the largely mountainous South Waziristan. Until now, the Mahsud area was largely peaceful, enabling the government to claim that the Mahsud tribe supported its tough anti-militancy policy and the deployment of Pakistan Army troops in South Waziristan. Government functionaries have also been claiming that only a small section, Yargulkhel, of the Zalikhel sub-tribe of Ahmadzai Wazirs, who form almost 25 per cent of South Waziristan's population, had given refuge to foreign militants and was involved in attacks on the troops.
With the change in the situation on the ground, one would have to view with skepticism the claims that the authorities have been making with regard to the support for the government in the troubled South Waziristan tribal agency bordering Afghanistan. Though there had been some attacks earlier on the Pakistan Army troops and the paramilitary Frontier Corps in the Mahsud area such as the bloody ambush in Sarwakai that killed more than a dozen soldiers, the recent bombing by Pakistan Air Force jet-fighters and gunship helicopters on a militants' training camp in the Laddah area brought home the point that young Mahsuds too were becoming willing recruits to the cause of militancy. According to some reports, some 26 Mahsud youngsters being trained in the use of firearms and explosive devices were killed when the camp was bombed. The government claimed that up to 50 foreign militants perished in the bombing raid. Independent sources said around 15 foreign fighters were among those killed.
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Again, during and following the Soviet war in Afghanistan, a significant number of former Soviet troops (captured/defected)into the area along the Pak/Afghan border. These former Soviets (Chechen, Tajik, Uzbek, etc) were given a choice embrace local customsâ¦or lose your head.
These Frontier Independent Territories (FIT) have been semi-autonomous, mostly because theyâve made incursions into the FIT a losing proposition for both foreign (the Bengal Lancers of Britain) and governmental forces (Frontier Guides of the Pak Army). Both the British and the Pak govt were of the opinion that, as long as the FIT remained neutral in opposing the programs of the central government and didnât kill too many travelers who stumbled into their areas, they were left alone.
In the last three years, the population of the FIT, which is mostly 13th Century Islamic, has found thereâs power in the ballot box and have forced several Islamic moderates from office. In addition, itâs believed that a significant number of the terrorist attacks against the government and foreigners (mostly Christians) were hatched in the FIT. If that werenât enough, the remaining hard core Taliban and most likely Al Qaeda (to include Binnie and friends) are thought to be resident.
With the US election fast approaching, thereâs an increased urgency for Musharraf to FIND Binnie, or at least whatâs left of him. Look for increased activity as the election approaches.
It started with a robbery, but the gang that burst into a branch of Al-Habib Bank in this teeming port city had no interest in striking it rich, and the university graduate driving the getaway car was just getting started on a master plan for terror. The heist, carried out in daylight and with AK-47 assault rifles, is emblematic of a new brand of Islamic militant — more educated but less established and largely cut off from traditional sources of terror funding, Pakistani police and intelligence officials told The Associated Press. Atta-ur Rehman and his Jundullah gang walked away from the bank in Karachi on Nov. 18 with just under $70,000, enough to finance an eight-month wave of attacks against the U.S. Consulate, a Christian Bible studies group, a peace concert by an Indian singer, a police station, and a senior Pakistani military general.
There's no indication al-Qaida had a hand in Jundullah's spree, but some gang members are believed to have spent time at training camps with top members of Osama bin Laden's network. "Normally, when robbers loot a bank they split the cash and go their separate ways, but the Jundullah gang only spent about 500,000 rupees ($8,600) from their heist and they stuck together," said Fayyaz Leghari, chief of operations for the Karachi police. "They were not ordinary robbers. They saw the bank job as a way to fund their holy mission."
Leghari said police recovered the rest of the money when they arrested 10 members of the gang following a June 10 assassination attempt on Ahsan Saleem Hayat, the city's military commander and a close aide to President Gen. Pervez Musharraf. Hayat survived but 11 others were killed. The group, whose name means Allah's Brigade, was apparently saving the cash to finance more attacks.
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Authorities say the fledgling militant groups are gaining in sophistication, aided by highly educated, deeply committed leaders.
more quagmire bull. The whole article is about the fact that they are becoming less sophisticated.
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The indicator to me is that these guys are going for bank heists as a means of funding, rather than receiving operating funds from Jihadis and Saudi sources. This may mean that western attacks on funding sources may be having an effect. Anybody have any thoughts on this?
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Barakat, who is the Syrian Baath Party official responsible for Education and Organisational Issues, said that with all differences, Syria had things in common with the United States. For instance, both were interested in preserving the Iraqi state, he said.
âWe are ready for constructive cooperation,â he said in his interview with the Austria Press Agency. In view of the chaos in Iraq, the US needed good partners in the region, he said.
n CAIRO: Egyptâs President Hosni Mubarak said the only way to lift the threat of Iraq plunging into chaos is to boost support for the interim government of Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, in an interview published here yesterday.
âThe only path possible, in the current circumstances, is to support the interim Iraqi government to allow it to meet its commitments to hold elections at the start of 2005,â he told the Mayo newspaper.
He called for closer cooperation with the Allawi government âso the Iraqi people can overcome the test they are faced with, as part of a global vision to preserve their unity and regional security ... free of foreign domination.â
hmmmm...trying to hide the "bad" news at the end of "good news". It almost sounds like Egypt and Syria are starting to understand the consequences of ticking off their new neighbors.
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Screw the MOAB. Send them the Muslim impotence chewing gum.
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Boris, what are you doing up there in Burnaby? You work nights at an Esso, or maybe one of those classy Mohawk stations?
I can't tell if you're a white supremacist Cheeser, or one of those 'stani minimart operators. So which is it... does our $3.50 (CAND) for a cup of jo fund ten seconds of a meth high, or al Qaeda?
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I know a Boris in Switzerland....
I want to lock and load and be done with this already. Enough is enough. We are not fighting a worship of the lord we are fighting the worship of the devil. Kill them before they kill us!!
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Hey Long Hair, you talking about the Swiss, the Canadians, Boris, or just Muslims in general? 'cuz the Muslims, well, I can understand the feeling.
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Nope Borris is just an anti-semitic Bosinian I think. He hates the US to which is a laugh since he lives in or near Simi Valley Ca. Prolly up to his butt in fundi-islamo-fascist terror support.
They will probably just stand around wringing their hands, saying "Tut, tut. How awful!", and pass some resolutions. No, wait! I'm thinking of the EU. Sorry. Never mind.
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Hamas had better develop a very strong recruiting team to fill top leadership positions - Israel now has enough "toys" to "plink" MANY carloads worth of Hamas terr leadership figures.
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hi antiwar! :)
are you read david ickes newsest book? you and he are share lots of same views on em khazars. how they are just decide they are become jewish and stuff. im thinkin you will like it. you are also have to read him previous books to learn about how snake peples are live in middle earth and venus in only about 6000 years old. but truth is it may be em mother ship for the snake peples. jury still out on that one.
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anti can barely keep a book in the tent, her master won't allow it. Keeps her ignorant and stupid - a two-fer
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Sharon is a Nazi
Which Sharon? I know several Sharons, all cuties, so you'll have to tell me which one. I, being of dark skin, certainly don't want to be seen associating with a Nazi....
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Antiwar is manifesting all the signs of sexual repression:
Current Sources of Sexual Dysfunction
The most frequent contributors to current sources of dysfunction are:
a) anxiety, perhaps over sexual performance, and ideas that interfere with sexual arousal;
b) inadequate information about sexuality that leads to ineffective sexual behavior;
c) failures in communication;( Take note Antiwarâ¦this is you in spades)
d) stress
Gee, AW, I thought you LLL terror-apologists hated Sharon. Now I see you equate him to Jew-hating, authoritarian, Goebbels-media based terrorists of the past----you're basically saying that he is one of you.
Yep, and I bet Anti is faxing the backup documents to C-BS right now from a Kinkos in Istanbul!
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Sorry, Shipman. Occasionally we make an exception (Hello, UFOOL. How are you today?) but we rarely concern ourselves with the deranged.
I could be wrong though. Don't know what the Australian branch is up to. Chances are they at least know who she is.
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