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Afghanistan
Aging Soviet General Talks About Afghanistan - And you thought the CIA was clueless
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/09/2009 15:11 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


U.S. military planes take to Russian skies
American military planes will soon be seen above Russia after a new transit agreement with the U.S. came into force. It allows America to airlift military equipment to Afghanistan via Russian airspace.

Two months after President Dmitry Medvedev and his U.S. counterpart Barack Obama pledged to press the reset button, some of those plans are coming to life.

Washington is now allowed to send military aircraft to Afghanistan through Russia's airspace. More than four thousand flights per year are scheduled to deliver troops and various types of cargo, including military hardware.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/09/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And from whom will we be required to buy the aviation fuel, and at what price? Or what other backroom deal did Bambi make with the devil?

Consequences of allowing Russia to bully us out of the Manas AFB in Kyrgyzstan continue...
Posted by: logi_cal || 09/09/2009 0:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Or what other backroom deal did Bambi make with the devil?

No GMD missile defense in Poland. Obama is such an easy and cheap date if your name is Vladimir.
Posted by: ed || 09/09/2009 1:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Mabey IRAN will let us(Sarcastic) GIVE ME A BREAK as long as them boys get the gear they need STFU or Please tell of the best route Since You know know them all .

I BET YOU TOOK YA KIDS OUT OF SCHOOL TODAY TO BECAUSE, LET ME SEE....NO EXCUSE YOU SUK

Man up 4 real get of the BS.. Or be Plain and NOT simple or SIMPLY PUT CRAZY.

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO NOT LET YOUR KIDS HERE THIS

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32737911#32744200
Posted by: play4keeps || 09/09/2009 2:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Someone above me needs an education or at least a modicum of intelligence. Alternatively, could someone please translate what play4keeps is dribbling on about ?
Posted by: Oscar || 09/09/2009 3:35 Comments || Top||

#5  I think it's time for the Holy Nine-iron.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/09/2009 7:09 Comments || Top||

#6  Someone was up late in mom's basement, it appears.
Posted by: lotp || 09/09/2009 7:23 Comments || Top||

#7  Sorry, I don't speak EBONICS.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/09/2009 8:13 Comments || Top||

#8  Hi play4keeps,

As far as I was aware, the most incoherent post ever submitted to a web site was posted on 4chan, and it went like this.

"Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

For sheer mindnumbing WTF obscurity, it is brilliant. Your submission on the other hand is not quite as good. It is a bit long, and if you concentrate, you can actually discern some glimmer of meaning.

Still, you deserve encouragement. You only need to mangle your spelling, grammar, capitalisation and sentence structure a tiny bit more, and you too will achieve gibbering incoherence. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: bunyip || 09/09/2009 8:18 Comments || Top||

#9  Cheez bunyip, educate him like that and he's going to want a certificate ...
Posted by: Steve White || 09/09/2009 8:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Don't encourage the retard ..ahem... specially gifted one. It'll think it's entitled to your hard earned cash or something like that.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 09/09/2009 9:12 Comments || Top||

#11  Talk about COMPLETELY missing the point...

*sigh*

Hijacked by id 'ten' T.
Posted by: logi_cal || 09/09/2009 9:29 Comments || Top||

#12  Heck, I get even more retarded and incoherent spam posts at "The Daily Brief" every - and by the dozens. I even did a study of magical spam a couple of years ago. Enjoy!
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 09/09/2009 9:41 Comments || Top||

#13  One word for P4K, Lithium.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 09/09/2009 11:01 Comments || Top||

#14  I agree they gotta get the cartridges, food, fuel, shoelaces, toothpaste, water, gun oil, toilet paper, batteries, so forth. But through Russia, what could go wrong? Better than Iran sure, safer than Pakistan well more reliable at the moment - because Russia has been so predictable and trustworthy over the last 5 years. If I wanted to be a Russian pain in the ass I'd let the coalition forces start to really depend on those air routes then start upping the toll booth. I'm afraid a year from now someone's gonna have to go get a shitload of dimes. Perhaps India has an opinion about business deals with Russia?

Superhighway from Karachi to Kabul via Khybr built by India, SeaBees, locals after the Bombay Bombers would have been best, IMHO.

I guess Reset Button is the new buzz word; feel like I'm being groped by a used car salesman when I hear it.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/09/2009 11:22 Comments || Top||

#15  #14 I agree they gotta get the cartridges, food, fuel, shoelaces, toothpaste, water, gun oil, toilet paper, batteries, so forth. But through Russia, what could go wrong? Better than Iran sure, safer than Pakistan well more reliable at the moment - because Russia has been so predictable and trustworthy over the last 5 years. If I wanted to be a Russian pain in the ass I'd let the coalition forces start to really depend on those air routes then start upping the toll booth. I'm afraid a year from now someone's gonna have to go get a shitload of dimes. Perhaps India has an opinion about business deals with Russia?

Superhighway from Karachi to Kabul via Khybr built by India, SeaBees, locals after the Bombay Bombers would have been best, IMHO.

I guess Reset Button is the new buzz word; feel like I'm being groped by a used car salesman when I hear it.
Posted by swksvolFF 2009-09-09 11:22|| Front Page|| ||Comments Top


At least one had a answer instead of blowing the usual NOPE I DONT KNOW THE ANSWERS so ill talk down on thee.

Havent you learned yet what might keep republicans from getting in office HINT HINT WORDS LIKE THESE BELOW IS WHY LAMO

#8 Hi play4keeps,

As far as I was aware, the most incoherent post ever submitted to a web site was posted on 4chan, and it went like this.

"Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

For sheer mindnumbing WTF obscurity, it is brilliant. Your submission on the other hand is not quite as good. It is a bit long, and if you concentrate, you can actually discern some glimmer of meaning.

Still, you deserve encouragement. You only need to mangle your spelling, grammar, capitalisation and sentence structure a tiny bit more, and you too will achieve gibbering incoherence. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: bunyip 2009-09-09 08:18

#7 Sorry, I don't speak EBONICS.
Posted by: Besoeker 2009-09-09 08:13

MABEY --2032-- BUDDY

Ohh By the way lad I speak four languages one of them being EBONICS. HOW BUT U?
Posted by: play4keeps || 09/09/2009 13:06 Comments || Top||

#16  Ohh By the way lad I speak four languages one of them being EBONICS.

I'll guess the other 3.

1 stupid

2 incoherent

3 babble
Posted by: Beavis || 09/09/2009 13:10 Comments || Top||

#17  Ahh lekker, die play4keeps is nou en intellektueel, nie 'n kaffir kak nie?
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/09/2009 13:54 Comments || Top||

#18  De kerel keert naar holu kwam terug uit lamo Hillbilly Besoeker
Posted by: play4keeps || 09/09/2009 14:40 Comments || Top||

#19  O je, eine ganze menge von vier Fremdsprache haben Sie, meiner lieber Herr play4keeps? Ist das wirklich doch wunderbar -- Sie duerfen mit mir beim Spielplatz Rantburgs gehen. Wenn Sie haette auch orientalische und sklavisch Sprachen, sowie Russisch, Arabisch, oder Chinesisch, dann sind Sie etwas mehr als ganz, ganz ordinaer hier. Ich bin nur eine Amerikanische hausfrau, und ich habe fuenf Fremdsprachen studiert.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/09/2009 17:57 Comments || Top||

#20  Wahahahhaa...zeit fur alt Besoeker umarmten TW gute.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/09/2009 19:02 Comments || Top||

#21  Quien es este pinche cabron?
Posted by: Rob06 || 09/09/2009 20:11 Comments || Top||

#22  Repeating what Deacon said:
我認為這是一次羅馬九鐵。
Posted by: 3dc || 09/09/2009 21:05 Comments || Top||

#23  وأعتقد أنه حان الوقت للقرآن تسعة الحديد.
works too.
Posted by: 3dc || 09/09/2009 21:07 Comments || Top||

#24  I'm just guessing 'someone' got my point but didn't want to participate in this pissing match.

Sadly, I'll close with a recap:

Hijacked by id 'ten' T.
Posted by: logi_cal || 09/09/2009 22:58 Comments || Top||

#25  *very, very happy sigh* I do so adore Rantburgers!! I'm just glad nobody pointed out I forgot to capitalize Hausfrau, entirely misspelt Slawische... or corrected my grammar in front of the lad. We left Germany in 1995, and I've forgotten an awful lot.

Big hug back atcha, Old Besoeker dear.

I'm afraid logical's id'ten'T comment was over my head over here on the playground swingset. If someone would be kind enough to explain? I do hate missing what looks like a lovely bit of cleverness.

Posted by: trailing wife || 09/09/2009 23:38 Comments || Top||


Death-Sentenced Afghan Journalist Freed
[Quqnoos] An Afghan reporter sentenced to 20 years in jail for blasphemy was pardoned by President Hamid Karzai and freed, officials said

Sayed Parwez Kambakhsh, whose case triggered international calls for the Afghan government to protect freedom of expression, was released several weeks ago and left the country for fear of attacks.

Relatives of Mr Kambaksh said he had already left Afghanistan as he had been granted asylum by a European country.

Kambakhsh was sentenced to death at a closed-door court session in his hometown, Mazar-e-Sharif, in January last year for distributing an Internet article about the role of women among his friends.

Reporters Without Borders, which cited Kambakhsh's lawyer, didn't identify the country where he is living.

Amnesty International welcomed his release and called on the Afghan government to secure the freedom of two other writers accused of blasphemy.

Ahmad Ghous Zelmay and Qari Mushtaq were sentenced to 20 years in jail last year for publishing a translation of the holy Koran without the accompanying Arabic script.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Afghan recount ordered; Karzai nears outright win
A U.N.-backed commission Tuesday ordered a recount of tainted ballots from the Afghan presidential vote, saying it had "convincing evidence of fraud," even as President Hamid Karzai for the first time surpassed the threshold needed to avoid a run-off and win re-election.

Doubts are growing about the Aug. 20 election's credibility, a key step in U.S. and European efforts to strengthen the Afghan government and bolster declining support for the almost eight-year war against a spreading Taliban insurgency.

The U.N.-backed Electoral Complaints Commission, an independent body with the power to investigate and nullify fraudulent votes, ordered a recount Tuesday at polling stations where it had found "clear and convincing evidence of fraud." That means that Karzai could still have votes taken away from him. More than 720 major fraud charges have been lodged with the complaints commission.

Daoud Ali Najafi, chief electoral officer of the Afghan-run Independent Election Commission which organized the vote, said that recounting votes could take "two months or three months," suggesting the already overextended election is likely far from over. Officially certified results were due by late September.

With results in from almost 92 percent of the country's polling sites, Karzai has 54.1 percent of the votes, pushing him over the threshold that would allow him to declare victory outright and avoid a run-off with his main challenger. Abdullah Abdullah.

As more results have come in from the south, where Karzai's support is strong, former foreign minister Abdullah's standing has slipped dramatically. He now has 28.3 percent of the vote. But the credibility of the election is increasingly in question. The Afghan-run election commission has already quarantined ballots from more than 600 polling stations ruled to have been suspected of fraud, out of more than 26,000 stations. The results announced Tuesday do not include those ballots, Najafi said.

The U.N.-backed complaint commission will investigate and determine whether they can be counted or be discarded. So far about 5.7 million votes have been tallied, including 250,000 ballots discarded either because the presidential candidate had officially withdrawn or because of problems with the ballot, such as a vote cast for two candidates.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Count a few more times and prove you've mastered Democratic Party democracy.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/09/2009 8:59 Comments || Top||


200,000 ballots tossed for fraud in Afghan vote
[Dawn] About 200,000 votes have been thrown out of the tally of Afghan election results because of fraud, an election official said Tuesday.
Widespread allegations of ballot-box stuffing and suspicious tallies are threatening the legitimacy of Afghanistan's Aug. 20 vote as the country awaits final results. More than 650 major fraud charges have been lodged with a complaints commission.

The Independent Electoral Commission previously said that results from 447 polling stations were thrown out, and an official said that amounts to about 200,000 ballots.

'The numbers were suspicious and the results did not match with the reconciliation form' used to double-check results, said Daoud Ali Najafi, the commission's chief electoral officer.

'In some areas the turnout was higher than the number of ballots we sent to the polling station,' Najafi added. He said the ballots have been sent to the UN-backed fraud investigation commission, which will decide if any can eventually be included in the official count.

With results from 74 per cent of polling stations released so far, Karzai has 48.6 percent, while top challenger Abdullah Abdullah has 31.7 percent. Karzai needs more than 50 percent to avoid a runoff election.

Najafi said he did not have a regional breakdown of the discarded results, but said investigation teams have been sent to Ghazni, Paktika and Kandahar provinces.

A senior Western diplomat alleged Monday that a majority of the votes in three provinces -- Kandahar, Paktika and Khost -- are fraudulent. Partial returns from each of those provinces heavily favor Karzai. The diplomat spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of his work. Others have said there have been as many as 800 fake polling sites from which tallies came in.

Najafi said it was unlikely that 800 polling stations were faked, and said the most recent number of fraud-annulled stations he had was the 447 announced Sunday.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Africa Horn
Sudan frees trouser woman after one day in jail
[Al Arabiya Latest] A Sudanese woman jailed for wearing trousers deemed indecent in a landmark court case was freed on Tuesday after the country's journalist union paid a $209 fine on her behalf, the head of the media body said.

Lubna Hussein was convicted on indecency charges on Monday in a case that has attracted worldwide outcry, and was ordered to pay a fine or face a month in jail, but was spared a harsher penalty of 40 lashes. "She came out of prison. We paid the 500 pound ($200) fine," Mohedinne Titawi, president of the union, told AFP.

Hussein was imprisoned on Monday after she refused to pay the fine imposed earlier the same day by a Khartoum court for wearing trousers deemed indecent. She could have faced one month in jail.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Sudan


Arabia
Huthist Receiving Foreign Support- Governor of Sadah
Asharq Al-Awsat- Sheikh Hassan Manna, the governor of Sa'dah Province in Yemen where a war is raging between the Yemeni government forces and the Huthist militias, has accused the former rulers of Yemen (The Mutawakillite Kingdom of Yemen) [1918 - 1962] from the Al Hamid al-Din Dynasty who ruled Yemen prior to the revolution in 1962 in northern Yemen of being involved in backing the Huthist insurrection in northern Yemen.

In a statement to Asharq Al-Awsat, Sheikh Manna said that the members of the commission that was formed by the president of the republic to restore peace in Sa'dah are suffering from what he described as "hopelessness and frustration" from dealing with the "members of the insurrection and their leader or their actual leadership".

Sheikh Manna's remark was a reference to the presence of external hands backing the Huthists. Sheikh Manna added to the remark by saying that Abdul-Malik al-Huthi, the field commander of the Huthists in Sa'da, is a mere "designated token". He said that a number of figures and leaders of the AlHamid-al-Din family and several well known royalist leaders are backing him. Sheikh Manna added: "Abdul-Malik al-Huthi is a simpleton. If you ask him where Bani Muaz is located, he would not know and he would not know where Al-Talh village is located. These are facts; I am not being sarcastic. I am saying that Abdul-Malik al-Huthi is exploiting the fact that he is Hussein Badr al-Din al-Huthi's younger brother and Badr-al-Din al-Huthi's son. He has been exploiting this name, but those that are really running things are a few royalist figures from the monarchial times against whom the Yemeni people revolted in 1962". On the reported clashes that took place the evening before last in the city of Sa'dah between the government forces and the Huthists, Manna said: "I cannot call them clashes; they were no more than a hot chase of criminals and gangsters. The security forces hunt down criminals all the time". He said that some that he described as "diehards" were deployed in "some houses and other places. The necessary security measures that are taken in any country in the world are being taken against them. You know that if any wanted criminals resist against the security forces they are hunted down and the necessary security measures are taken against them. This is exactly what is happening in some neighborhoods in the city today. The media has turned these incidents into an alleged seizure of Bab al-Salam [neighborhood]. By God, things like that make me want to laugh".

Sheikh Manna said that the city of Sa'dah, the provincial center, is "calm and stable". He said that "in some neighborhoods, the security forces are chasing some wanted insurgents for assaulting some citizens. We received complaints and we tried to summon them in the usual ways but they resisted against the security soldiers. This forced us to call for security reinforcements and to take the necessary measures. The situation is back to normal at present". In his remarks to Asharq Al-Awsat, Manna denied that the army and security forces suffered losses during the Sa'dah clashes that some observers described as gang warfare. He said that three insurgents were killed the clashes. He added that the Yemeni security forces were in hot pursuit of wanted insurgents that were involved in killing or wounding a number of soldiers last week inside the city. He added that rebels anywhere cut off roads and resort to abductions. However, he said, the army and security forces "take the necessary legal measures and teach them a lesson". Emphasizing that a large of Huthists were killed, he said: Anyone that resists will be killed; a large number of them were killed for resisting against the authorities". He added that the army and security forces arrested about 20 Huthists in the city of Sa'dah in these clashes.

The governor of Sa'dah emphasized that the situation in the province is "normal". He said that the security organs and army forces are striking at the advocates of division wherever they may be and dealing with them in the right manner. He stressed that the Huthists are no more than "corrupt gangs". He added: "You know, brother, that corruption is easy if the means and the opportunity are available". He said that all Yemeni society is armed and "the insurgents or this sample of citizens are armed". He added that these have no faith, no conscience, and no patriotism. That is why they carried out acts of sabotage and besieged several tribes and many citizens. With God's grace, however, we are dealing with them and repulsing them in every den or every point of these bad habits". Commenting on accusations that official Yemeni quarters have made against the Islamic Republic of Iran that it is involved in backing the Huthist insurgents, the governor of Sa'dah told Asharq al-Awsat that this is up to the political leadership. At the same time, however, he asserted that "behind these destructive saboteurs and gangs" there is what he described as "a regional dimension" He said: "What is happening in Sa'dah is a reflection of the regional state of affairs in the area". He added: "The resources and motives of these insurgents and sabotage gangs reflect a regional dimension; I am not accusing a particular state".

Sheikh Manna described the Huthist claims that Saudi Arabia is supporting Yemen in its war against them as "nonsense". He told Asharq Al-Awsat: "We wish there was Saudi support but it does not exist". He added that the few pictures that the Qatari Al-Jazeera satellite channel showed - of some weapons bearing the Saudi flag - is regrettable. He added: "It is well known that these weapons are ancient; they date back to the days of the royalists to whom the insurgent gangs belong; that is, they are 43 years old. I wish you would highlight this point in your report". He also said: "These arms are quite familiar; the bombs and rockets belong to old canons that the royalists used against the republicans during the days of the revolution in1962. The royalists used these kinds of weapons. When the Yemeni revolution broke out in September 1962, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia then was opposed to the revolution. That was a different situation; Saudi Arabia supported the royalists then. The Huthists are still keeping these weapons in their warehouses and showed samples of them to the Al-Jazeera channel claiming that Saudi Arabia is supporting Yemen. Of course, these are old weapons that appeared only in the 1960s".

The governor of Sa'dah Province asserted that the state is in control of "all the areas of the province with the exception of some villages in the lands of Khawlan Bani Amir". Governor Manna did not confirm or deny that the Huthists have captured several army regulars. However, he pointed out that any armed gang anywhere in the work can abduct a soldier or an officer returning home on leave. "Such things happen in New York and Geneva," he said, "It should not be taken as a standard. Things should not take a media angle as we see on television if they capture a soldier. Sabotage, gangs, and highwaymen may exist anywhere. You know, brother that some figures or their children are abducted by corrupt gangsters anywhere in the world. What does this mean? Does it mean that the state or that place is corrupt? The Yemeni official told Asharq Al-Awsat about reported clashes a few days ago between Huthists and Salafis in the area of Dammaj in Sa'dah Province. He said that the Huthists attacked the Dammaj area where is located a group of students studying the Sunnah or modern religious studies in the (late) Sheikh Muqbil al-Wadi'i Center. This center can accommodate a large number of students from all over the world Governor Manna said that the sons of this region are "brave men. They clashed with those and inflicted heavy losses on them".
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
British mosque has been recruiting ground for 20 years
A mosque frequented by the leader of the airline plot terrorist cell has been a recruiting ground for extremists for more than 20 years. The Queen's Road mosque in Walthamstow, northeast London, where Abdulla Ahmed Ali met his associates, is controlled by the ultraorthodox Tablighi Jamaat. Intelligence services around the world believe that Tablighi's fundamentalism makes some of its followers easy prey for terrorist recruiters.
Tablighi Jamaat, if you've been asleep since 2001, is a Pak proselytizing organization that recruits impressionable yoots for al-Qaeda and similar worthy causes.
Two decades ago the same mosque was hosting talks by followers of Omar Bakri Mohammed, one of the first Islamic clerics in Britain to preach jihad.
The learned Omar was the founder of al-Muhajiroun, recall, which split off from Hizb-ut-Tahrir because they weren't radical enough. Hizbutt is another jihad recruiting and propagandizing organization.
The disclosure of the mosque's history indicates that, despite the focus on the Pakistan-based terrorist threat, the roots of Islamist radicalisation are deeply embedded in Britain. The men involved in the fertiliser bomb plot of 2004, the July 7 and July 21 bombings of 2005 and the airline plot were all radicalised in Britain. Their initial contacts with the al-Qaeda network were through fundraisers and recruiters in Britain and Rashid Rauf, who has been identified by security sources as a key link man in Pakistan, was from Birmingham.
Verily, the links between Britain and Ye Olde Countrie are tight. The fellows are born and bred in Land of Hope and Glory, but they speak Urdu or Pashto and they travel to Lahore for religious education and to marry their first cousins.
Ed Husain, of the Quilliam Foundation, an anti-extremist think-tank, said the first contact with radicals for many young Muslims was at British colleges and universities. "In the 1990s it was Arab political refugees, not Pakistanis, that helped radicalise many British Muslims," he said. "Pakistani militants provide training for would-be violent Islamists. But they go out radicalised and willing -- it is folly to think that visits to Pakistan are points of first contact with extremism."
Why's it folly? They maintain Pak cultural islands and the itinerant Arabs have about the same effect in Britain they have in Pakistain: they're members of the Islamic Master Race.
Ali, who will be sentenced for the airline plot next week, was heavily influenced by a suspected al-Qaeda facilitator who is known to the authorities. That man, who has not been arrested and lives freely in East London, claims that he has no links to terrorism and is a Tablighi missionary. But long before the Walthamstow mosque came under Tablighi influence, it hosted "study circles" led by Bakri Mohammed's followers. I attended one of those meetings as a reporter in August 1989 and heard young men decry the evils of drink, discos and "free intermingling of the sexes".
They'll address the free intermingling of the races later...
One called Kysar, then aged 19, told me: "Islam isn't a religion where you can only adopt part of it. You have to adopt the whole Islamic viewpoint on society. There can be no compromise with the divine system revealed to us."
"If you're not part of the problem you're part of the solution!" or something along those lines.
That the airline bomb plot was based in Walthamstow has shocked residents of this northeast London suburb.
They're shocked! Shocked!
The area prides itself on having a mixed and well-integrated community and, unlike in many areas of East London, there are no ghettos.
Sounds like a multicultural herd of sheep, dunnit?
But the plot has revealed that Islamist extremism is deeply rooted in elements of the large Muslim population. Many of the people whom Ali tried to recruit to his terrorist cell were his Walthamstow school friends and his bomb factory was an upstairs flat in the busy Forest Road. In the flat, Ali -- who had lived almost all his life in Walthamstow -- experimented with bottle bombs and liquid explosives and recorded martyrdom videos. Bombmaking components were disposed of in the rubbish bins across the road in Lloyd Park, once the garden of the philanthropist William Morris.
Meanwhile the multicultural sheep were placidly grazing, congratulating themselves on their placidity...
Afzal Akram, the local councillor whose brief includes "community cohesion", insisted that Queen's Road mosque itself was not part of the problem.
"No, no! Certainly not! Why, I go there myself!"
"It's got nothing to do with the imams or the mosque -- some of my friends and family pray there, I've been there myself," he said.
"Sometimes I even give the sermons!"
"None of the mosques here have been used to preach extremism. Individuals may have met at particular mosques and individuals may live within a stone's throw of the mosque. But I wouldn't put two and two together."
"You might come out with four, and that wouldn't be a good thing."
Mr Akram says that extremism locally is little more than youngsters "mouthing off" and "spouting conspiracy theories". But the Government is spending £90,000 in the borough to teach "leadership" to young Muslims.
That way they'll be able to organize their friends and families into Stürm brigades.
The Queen's Road mosque declined to comment, despite approaches made through the Muslim Council of Britain. However, two years ago Tablighi Jamaat set up a website, to publicise its plans for a giant mosque next to the Olympic site, on which it said: "We do not teach an extremist line, but we clearly can't speak for every single one of those who have ever attended our mosques -- there are several thousand people at our weekly gatherings." They added: "We utterly refute any links to terrorism or terrorists."
"Oh, yasss! We're ever so multicultural! Here! Feel my fleece! Want some grass?"
One community leader, who is involved in interfaith work in Walthamstow, said the Muslim community did not recognise that extremism was a problem. "I don't want to add fuel to the fire, but the problem is within the Muslim community and its attitude to the extremists," he said. "You speak to the community elders and they smile and say, 'It's not a big problem, if we ignore them they'll go away'. That seems a dangerous attitude to me and the wrong one to take."
This article starring:
OMAR BAKRI MOHAMEDal-Muhajiroun
RASHID RAUFal-Qaeda
Posted by: ryuge || 09/09/2009 07:12 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is what happens when MI5 and the Metro Police are too busy listening to American talk radio for offensive speech.
Posted by: HammerHEad || 09/09/2009 8:22 Comments || Top||

#2  In other news, Mafeking relieved!
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/09/2009 8:33 Comments || Top||

#3  despite approaches made through the Muslim Council of Britain.

There's their first problem.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 09/09/2009 9:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Re the title

Thesaurus for incredible:

absurd, far-fetched, fishy, flimsy*, implausible, impossible, improbable, incogitable, inconceivable, insupposable, out of the question, outlandish, phony, preposterous, questionable, ridiculous, rings phony, suspect, thin*, unbelievable, unconvincing, unimaginable, unsubstantial, untenable, unthinkable
Posted by: Willy || 09/09/2009 11:46 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Chavez says hopes can work with Obama
VENICE (Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a fierce critic of U.S. foreign policy who once called George W. Bush "the devil," said on Monday he hoped to be able to work more closely with President Barack Obama.
Apparently he's decided that Bambi shouldn't be the last president of the United States ...
The leftist 55-year-old leader added in an interview in Italy that despite the global economic crisis and signs of a slowdown in growth in Venezuela, he did not expect his country to fall into recession.

"I have no reason to call him (Obama) the devil, and I hope that I am right," Chavez told reporters in Venice. "With Obama we can talk, we are almost from the same generation, one can't deny that Obama is different (from Bush). He's intelligent, he has good intentions and we have to help him."

Asked in an interview with Reuters whether the fact that Venezuela's economy shrank for the first time in more than five years during the second quarter of 2009 could mean austerity measures ahead, Chavez replied: "There is no recession in Venezuela. There has been a slight slowdown in growth but that is something logical because of the great worldwide recession in capitalism.

"We have taken some steps but unemployment continues to fall and production continues to rise. Venezuela has been affected by the crisis but has not and will not go into recession," added the president.

Chavez also said his democratic credentials remained intact despite concerns over moves to crack down on the independent media and political opposition. Thousands of people took to the streets of Caracas over the weekend to voice their opposition to the president, who has been in power for a decade and says he needs another 10 years to pursue his socialist reforms.

"In Venezuela, no television channel has been closed despite the fact that in many cases the television channels supported a coup d'etat," he said. "Noam Chomsky ... was asked in an interview what would happen if Fox News or CNN had supported a coup against a president. Chomsky replied that not only would those channels have been closed, but their owners would have been sent to the electric chair.
Chavez quoting the Chomster ...
"I'm entirely dedicated to building a real democratic model in Venezuela. As Abraham Lincoln said, what is democracy? It is not the system by which a rich minority exploits the people. It is government by the people and for the people."
Posted by: Steve White || 09/09/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


China-Japan-Koreas
Nork Propaganda 'Preparing for Succession'
Japan's Mainichi Shimbun claims to have obtained North Korean propaganda documents that seem designed to boost the standing of leader Kim Jong-il's son Jong-un, lending credence to reports that Jong-un has been picked as his father's heir apparent.

The documents contain slogans such as, "General Kim Jong-un has broad military insight and is matchlessly talented" and, "Revered Comrade Kim Jong-un is the successor to the peerless man who has led our military and people."

The daily said the documents are probably being used by the Ministry of the People's Armed Forces or the Ministry of State Security and appear to have been written after May Day because they include an account of the May Day fireworks, the newspaper said.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/09/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Student fined for Israel flag in Germany
A local district court in the West German city of Bochum fined a student 300 Euros on Wednesday for displaying an Israel flag at a demonstration organized by Muslim organizations against the IDF Operation Cast Lead in January. According to Der Westen, a regional paper in Bochum, the public prosecutor termed the Israeli flag as "provoking" within a special situation.
Posted by: Unaick Angoluns9180 || 09/09/2009 14:18 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  demonstration organized by Muslim organizations against the IDF Operation Cast Lead

Yeah, because that ain't provocative. Fuckers.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 09/09/2009 18:57 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Paleo MP accuses Israel of organ theft
[Al Arabiya Latest] A Palestinian minister on Tuesday accused Israel of trafficking the organs of Palestinians, while and Israeli rights group reported that the Gaza war was responsible for the deaths of countless Palestinians including more than 300 minors.

Israel "is hiding the bodies of Palestinian martyrs to remove the proof of their crimes, including organ trafficking," prisoner affairs minister Issa Qaraqae said.

He spoke at a rally held in the West Bank city of Nablus to demand the return to their families of bodies of dozens of Palestinians killed by the Israeli military.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pretty funny to think that the orignal "martyr"'s family didn't even claim organ theft originally, before the swedish journalos did so... but it won't be said that paleos will ever let a good propaganda opportunity goes to waste, even if it is so absurd on its face...
Besides, it rings well with that earlier jewish mob ring in NJ, and the associated organ traffiking (though from willing, if abused donors), hey, it pressed all the "right" buttons of the french wingnusts ("rabbis", "joooos"...).

Paleos really DO have a feel for the "emotional pulse" of their target audience, IIRC, during the height of the dutroux pedocrimes frenzy, they claimed israeli soldier made an habit of raping paleokiddies (this was actually carried by the french limousine-liberal monthly).

Still, maybe this guys really believes it, maybe he's sincere? Who knows? It's not like the local collective mind seems very rational and able to distinguiseh fantasy and rumors from Colmd Reality.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/09/2009 17:20 Comments || Top||

#2  But, after all, can't blame them for consistency.
As my very favorite italian modern italian philosopher and ethical studies professor Rocco Siffredi is in the habit of saying : "sooner or later, it goes in". How true.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/09/2009 17:22 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Opposition rejects Hariris proposed government
[Al Arabiya Latest] Lebanon's opposition groups formally informed the president on Tuesday of their rejection of a proposed government line-up by prime minister-designate Saad al-Hariri, raising the possibility that Hariri will step aside.

The billionaire magnate handed President Michel Suleiman his proposal on Monday, a move quickly rejected by the "March 8" opposition alliance, that includes Syria- and Iran- backed Hezbollah, because it had not been agreed by them. "We do not consider what happened to be appropriate, either with our democratic values or in how to deal with us. We were demanding from (Hariri) to present a draft that is acceptable to our demands in order to negotiate over it," said Gibran Bassil, a Christian opposition politician, after meeting Suleiman.

The delegation also included representatives from Hezbollah and its Shiite ally Amal.
Posted by: Fred || 09/09/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah


Terror Networks
Former CIA agent's hunt for bin Laden in Pakistani badlands
A couple of the money grafs:
The fruitless search has essentially been outsourced by the US to a network of Pashtun spies run by the Pakistani intelligence services.

The hunt for bin Laden is largely run by the ISI, the Pakistani intelligence service, an organisation for whom many CIA officials harbour deep mistrust because of its historical ties to the Pashtuns of Waziristan.
And that is why you fail.
Posted by: Spot || 09/09/2009 09:35 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Which ISI safe mansion is he living in?
Posted by: 3dc || 09/09/2009 10:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Kidney House
Dialysis Street
Quetta
NWP
Pak
Posted by: Oscar || 09/09/2009 10:38 Comments || Top||

#3  I lean toward a military hospital in Rawalpindi.
Posted by: charger || 09/09/2009 12:14 Comments || Top||

#4  With an estimated 50 to 100 agents sniffing through all the garbage in that small area can a person really maintain such a small foot print to avoid detection? It seems more improbable with each passing year. Could the Loch Ness monster escape this level of scrutiny? Or Big Foot. Big Foot has to poop somewhere but poop has DNA in it and we don't have any Big Foot DNA yet. Bin Laden may or may not need dialysis equipment but he does need food, transportation, security and communications. He probably also needs another young bride or two to keep his aging libido functioning. Shadows exist and they don't leave foot prints, but nothing of material substance can. If he died and his cohorts kept that info from leaking out then he is the only example of that happening that I know of. That is, unless you count the Shiite's 12th Iman. If he and his body guard were killed in a big boom-boom and buried under so much rubble that they were never found then I can see him taking on an Elvis like quality and the myth goes on...
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 09/09/2009 12:23 Comments || Top||

#5  As said times before, even iff one presumes that Osama did die at TORA BORA, etc. 9-11 EVENT > its the duty of the USA =US-ALLIES to physically recover his body and verify its identity.

WHY, YOU SAY - SEE BELOW!

E.g. WMF > ZARQHAWI = the same photo used for Zark after his well-repor MSM-NET "death" via airstrike in IRAQ IS THE SAME PHOTO USED TO IDENTIFY THE FOUNDER OF THE EAST TURKESTAN ISLAMIC PARTY-MOVEMENT IN XINJIANG, CHINA A FEW YEARS LATER [aka Uighurs], AS THE LATTER WAS FOUNDED AFTER ZARKEY'S ALLEGED DEATH IN IRAQ.

Methinks INTEL-PYWAR saying OOOOOOOPPPPSSSIES isn't go far enuff to explain away this one.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/09/2009 18:44 Comments || Top||

#6  AND, on a separate note, as someone whom fought wid OSAMA, etal. agz the Soviets in Aghanistan, I already know this Personage = CIA is looking in the WRONG LOCALES.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/09/2009 18:46 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
50,000 Muslims to Descend on Capitol Hill

A massive Islamic prayer service will be held on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C. at the end of this month – and 50,000 Muslims are expected to take part.

For a few hours on Sept. 25, the site where U.S. presidents are traditionally inaugurated, will essentially be turned into a giant outdoor mosque. The Jummah service – weekly Friday prayers – will “echo off of the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument and other great edifices that surround Capitol Hill,” according to the organizers.

They explain that the objective of the gathering is to “invite the Muslim Communities and friends of Islam to express and illustrate the wonderful diversity of Islam. We intend to manifest Islam's majestic spiritual principals [sic] as revealed by Allah to our beloved prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) of Arabia. Likewise, we intend to inspire a new generation of Muslims to work for the greater good of all people.”

The event, organized by a mosque in Elizabeth, New Jersey, is billed as a “Day of Islamic Unity.”

“Thousands of Muslims from all races, creeds, colors and ethnicities will gather for the sole purpose of prayer,” the organizers’ website states, and “the peace, beauty and solidarity of Islam will shine through America's capitol.”

The website page concludes, “Our Time Has Come.”

Link to the website.
Posted by: Unaick Angoluns9180 || 09/09/2009 11:28 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  sounds to me like a victory party.
Posted by: Richard of Oregon || 09/09/2009 12:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Here is what is says on the web site of the organizers, "...we intend to inspire a new generation of Muslim to work for the greater good of all people. We shall serve all people, regardless of race, religion or national origin."

I'm guessing that, based on that wording and the pro-America design on the website, a lot of muslims will boycott this event. However, we'll see. Maybe the radicals have take over the event and change it to a 'damn America' theme.
Posted by: lord garth || 09/09/2009 12:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Can't have the different sexes praying together either. Will they have two tents?
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/09/2009 13:29 Comments || Top||

#4  According to this website this is inspired by Obama's Cairo speech.

Hassen Abdellah, one of the main organizers is the President of "Muslim Brothers Movement Inc."
Posted by: Unaick Angoluns9180 || 09/09/2009 13:41 Comments || Top||

#5  What do you think will happen if some counter demonstraters show up with signs bearing some of the Danish cartoons or the more vicious quotes from the Koran?

Has there ever been a mass prayer service for Catholics, Jews or Protestants in the same location? Is this a violation of Church/State separation?
Posted by: AlanC || 09/09/2009 13:41 Comments || Top||

#6  based on that wording and the pro-America design

Taqqiya. Islam at it's core aims to conquer, kill or enslave nonmuslims. Never, ever forget that.

Atlas Shruggs:
Who is organizing the event?
Hassen Abdellah is a lawyer for terrorists.

Imam Abdul Malik, another event organizer: "we don’t want to democratize Islam, we want to Islamize democracy. That’s what we want."

the two leading the thousands of Muslims in prayer: Sheik Muhammad Jebril and Sheik Ahmed Dewidar:
Ahmed Dewidar is the New York Imam who said Jews control America.
Sheikh Jebril was named Imam of the extremist mosque Amr Ibn Al’Ass in Cairo in 1988.


Barry approves.
Read the whole article.
Posted by: ed || 09/09/2009 14:31 Comments || Top||

#7  #5 What do you think will happen if some counter demonstraters show up with signs bearing some of the Danish cartoons or the more vicious quotes from the Koran?

Same thing that happened when Catholics viewed the crucifix in a jar of urine, labeled 'art'. There will be violent riots, murder, mayhem...oh, wait.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 09/09/2009 17:01 Comments || Top||

#8  Meanwhile, intermingled with the Muslims are an estimated 75,000 FBI, CIA, national, State and local police officers, informants, spies, rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shiat-kickers and Methodists.*

*To quote from Blazing Saddles
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/09/2009 21:06 Comments || Top||

#9  ... and Methodists.

The horror! /shudder

I, for one, am looking forward to expressing and illustrating the wonderful diversity of Islam. Beheadings, stonings, the amputation of limbs, mass murder in all its forms, it will be simply grand. Glory unto Allan!
Posted by: SteveS || 09/09/2009 23:25 Comments || Top||



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