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Arabia
Prominent al-Qaeda member busted in Kuwait
A Kuwaiti security source said yesterday that the Kuwaiti authorities detained a person who is suspected to be a prominent figure in al-Qaida organization in Kuwait under the charge of recruiting gunmen to launch attacks against the American forces in Iraq. The source said that the Islamist Mohsin al-Fadli was arrested earlier this week and he has been interrogated, noting that the state security forces have been chasing him since last August because of his support to the leader of al-Qaida organization Osama Bin laden. The source added that investigations are continuous in the ministry of the interior and might continue for one month. The source said that there are other accusations against al-Fadli that cannot be crystallized before the end of the investigations. The authorities had appealed to citizens in August to help find the place of al-Fadli (23 year old) after the police was able to arrest a network suspected to recruit young men to fight the American occupation forces in Iraq.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 01/09/2005 1:30:08 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Down Under
Govt denies official saw Habib abuse
NO Australian official who had access to Australian terror suspect Mamdouh Habib witnessed any abuse against him while he was held in Pakistan in October 2002, the Federal Government said today. An affidavit alleging Mr Habib had been tortured and humiliated in the presence of an Australian official was released by his American lawyer today.
If you can't believe an al-Qaeda thug and an American lawyer, who can you believe?
Mr Habib, from Sydney, has been imprisoned without charge at Guantanamo Bay since he was captured in Pakistan in early October 2001, accused of aiding terrorist network al-Qaeda. He was held initially in Pakistan before he was sent to Egypt and then to Cuba, where another Australian, David Hicks, is also imprisoned. Attorney-General Phillip Ruddock said today that his inquiries into the allegations showed no Australian officials had witnessed abuse against Mr Habib.
"You see anything, Roger?"
"Nope. Not me, chief!"
"All of the officials who had access in October 2002 for non-consular purposes have confirmed there was no abuse witnessed by them," Mr Ruddock told reporters. Mr Habib's Australian lawyer, Stephen Hopper, had earlier accused the Australian Government of complicity in torture. "It's absolutely disgraceful," Mr Hopper said. "Any Australian citizen cannot be tortured that way, and to stand by and watch Americans or persons from any nationality do that to an Australian citizen is just unacceptable. What this indicates is that the Australian government officials have been engaged in crimes against humanity."
Whoa! Nice load of spittle!

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Posted by: God Save The World || 01/09/2005 10:33:38 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
French Islamists forced underground by crackdown
The Omar Mosque was packed with several hundred worshippers, forcing the overflow into a cold alley and a nearby cafe. No fiery words blared from the loudspeaker, no calls in this formerly hard-line mosque for holy war against Jews or the U.S. occupation of Iraq. A government crackdown has forced such militant talk from radical Muslims deep underground into "secret prayer rooms," and what's left here is a cloud of suspicion and hostile glances at visitors. "We come here to pray," said Soufian Mahdawi, a bearded 22-year-old in a white Arab robe and a headdress. "We don't want any tension, any problems. We try not to interfere in anyone's affairs and to keep to ourselves." Mr. Madawi, born in Paris to Tunisian parents, refused to even discuss Iraq.

Another young man of Tunisian origin, Fouad Mohsen, 28, said televised scenes of mayhem in Iraq have had considerable impact on the psyche of Muslims here. But he said he wasn't into politics and didn't know anyone who had joined the fight against the U.S. occupation. The two young men are members of a Muslim North African community that's the prime target of a relentless French campaign to root out terrorist threats. Over the past several years, especially following the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, French authorities have adopted some of the toughest anti-terrorism laws and policies in Europe — including pre-emptive arrests, ethnic profiling and interrogation without the presence of defense attorneys. The authorities have more than 40 mosques under watch. Police agents in civilian clothes reportedly mill in and outside mosques, recording speeches of the prayer leaders, or imams. As a result, most of the radical preaching that calls for jihad, or holy war, and aims to recruit young Frenchmen for the insurgency in Iraq is not carried out in the open, said Gilles Leclair, director of France's Anti-Terrorism Coordination Unit. "Most of them are clandestine ... secret prayer rooms, not in the official mosques," Mr. Leclair told AP.

So the authorities sometimes resort to unconventional tactics. According to Mr. Leclair, if officials have information that "Mr. Mohammed X" is a suspect but have no solid evidence, they have no qualms about finding something in his personal life, like a past complaint from his abused wife, to detain him for questioning. "Sometimes, of course, we can bring some trouble in the personal life, but I think it's better to [make] trouble for some people for one day and avoid 200 to 300 people from dying in a blast," Mr. Leclair said.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 01/09/2005 1:23:46 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "You are kept in a secret place for four days without any lawyer and often you never know why they have arrested you. They put pressure on you and sometimes beat you."

Sounds like the Patriot Act.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 01/09/2005 11:59 Comments || Top||

#2  "French authorities have adopted some of the toughest anti-terrorism laws and policies in Europe — including pre-emptive arrests, ethnic profiling and interrogation without the presence of defense attorneys."

So, where's the world's media now? Sounds like the French have taken a page out of our playbook.

As they say, "Imitation is the greatest form of flattery." Or some such. Your welcome Frace.
Posted by: 98Zulu || 01/09/2005 12:36 Comments || Top||

#3  weapons and a forgery machine in a mosque? Whoda thunk it?
Posted by: Frank G || 01/09/2005 14:21 Comments || Top||

#4  France has gone far beyond anything even contemplated in the U.S. in how they handle possible terrorists. They are determined to allow no terrorism on their own soil, but the constant misrepresentation of American/Coalition actions in Iraq serves to inflame the passions of the selfsame people who turn to terrorism. No news to Rantburgers of course, but I wouldn't be pleased to think of French actions as modelled on ours.

But only two pistols found with the forgery machine? Surely that's within the limits for a neighborhood mosque, Frank? ;-P
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/09/2005 15:09 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Philippines links Rajah Solaiman Movement to MILF, JI
THE ALLEGED PLOT to sow violence during today's celebration of the feast of the Black Nazarene in Quiapo was hatched by suspected members of the militant Hukbong Khalid Trinidad (HKT), the officer in charge of the Philippine National Police's Criminal Investigation and Detection Agency said yesterday.
That's a new one to me...
According to Supt. Rodolfo Mendoza, the HKT-supposedly named after a fallen Muslim militant-is a cell of the Rajah Solaiman Movement (RSM), an organization of Islamic converts with alleged links to the separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front and the Jemaah Islamiyah.
"The thigh bone's connected to the hip bone,
And the hip bone's connected to the back bone,
And the back bone's connected to the head bone..."
"The HKT/RSM should be taken very seriously as it could be even more dangerous than the Abu Sayyaf group or the MILF," Mendoza said. He said the HKT/RSM was being funded by foreign countries that he did not identify.
Lemme guess: Are they famous for producing camels? And dates? And oil?
Mendoza said the 16 people arrested in a raid Friday at the Islamic Information Center in Malate, Manila, were members of the HKT. The raiders had said they confiscated improvised firearms and explosive devices, which were purportedly intended to be detonated during the Black Nazarene procession.
Sounds like typical Islamic religious paraphernalia. Though the tonnage sounds light...

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Posted by: Dan Darling || 01/09/2005 1:34:09 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
AFP: French UN peacekeeper killed by Israeli fire in Hezbollah clashes
A French UN peacekeeper was killed in southern Lebanon by Israeli fire in cross-border clashes between Israel and the Hezbollah militia, UN officials said.
Good shooting, Avner.
The Lebanese Shiite Muslim militia also claimed to have killed an Israeli soldier in the fighting, but there was no confimation of this from the Israeli side. The French UN peacekeeper's patrol was hit by shrapnel from an Israeli round near the disputed Shebaa Farms area, Lebanese police said, amid a series of retaliatory air raids triggered by Hezbollah fire. A spokesman for the UN force in Lebanon said that the French officer, working with the United Nations Truce Supervision Organization (UNTSO) had been killed while a Swedish observer and their Lebanese driver were wounded. The spokesman, Milos Srwjer, said the men had been killed by fire from the "Israeli side of the Blue Line" that the United Nations drew up to serve as the border between Lebanon and Israel. He added however that the Israeli fire had been provoked by "shots from the Lebanese side" of the Blue Line.

Al-Manar television, the mouthpiece of Hezbollah,
That's brutally honest. Must be a translation error.
reported that "Our fighters blew up a very powerful charge in the path of an armoured vehicle near an Israeli position known as Zebdin in the occupied Shebaa Farms." "Four Apache helicopters flew in to evacuate four victims, a dead officer and three wounded soldiers," it added, referring to purported Israeli casualties.
Interesting tone, given that a Frenchman died.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 01/09/2005 6:58:26 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Shebaa Farms sounds like the sorta place Oliver Wendell Douglas might buy.
Posted by: Shipman || 01/09/2005 19:23 Comments || Top||

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IDF Pound Hizbullah After IDF Officer Killed
21:58 Jan 09, '05 / 28 Tevet 5765

Israeli Defense Forces fought Hizbullah terrorists Sunday afternoon from the air and ground following an attack on an IDF jeep in the Har Dov area of Mount Hermon that killed an IDF officer.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=74977
Posted by: gromgorru || 01/09/2005 20:10 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Troops patrol tense Gilgit
Troops patrolled the tense streets of Gilgit on Sunday to enforce a curfew imposed after the death toll from Saturday's rioting increased from 11 to 14 following the shooting of Shia leader Agha Ziauddin, officials said. The situation in the city was calm and under the local administration's control, sources said, adding that Shia mobs set the office of the Hunza assistant commissioner on fire and thousands of Shia protestors belonging to Gilgit city's suburbs had gathered at Danyore, about 10 kilometres from Gilgit city, and wanted to enter the city, but security forces managed to stop them at Danyore Bridge.

Dr Muhammad Yaqub at the government hospital in Gilgit said the death toll had risen to 14 from 11 in Saturday's violence, after which a curfew was imposed in the town and the army was called in to control the mob. The names of the three victims could not be known because of the curfew, sources said. The curfew was still in place on Sunday and residents said soldiers were patrolling the streets on vehicles mounted with machineguns.
Posted by: Fred || 01/09/2005 9:57:54 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Musharraf assassination suspect escapes
A series of powerful al-Qaeda bombs blew up seconds after President Pervez Musharraf's limousine crossed a bridge near Pakistan's heavily guarded capital of Islamabad on Dec. 14, 2003. Musharraf, a military autocrat and key U.S. ally in the war on terrorism, narrowly avoided being blown to bits. Sources tell TIME a suspect detained for conspiring to kill Musharraf has escaped from the custody of state security in the port city of Karachi. According to senior state-security sources in Pakistan, the escapee "disappeared" after a "security lapse" around the New Year's holiday, prompting a nationwide manhunt, kept secret until now. An unpublicized APB signed by a senior intelligence official in Karachi has been issued with three photographs--one showing the fugitive with a beard, another with a mustache and a third clean shaven. The alert, which identifies the escapee as Mushtaq Ahmad, a possible alias, was sent to air- and seaports as well as land borders in Pakistan, although security sources there believe he will probably try to slip across the border into Afghanistan.

The disappearance has clearly rattled Pakistan's nervous security establishment, underscoring the continuing threat to Musharraf, who has survived at least three attempts on his life. A Pakistani military court last month sentenced a soldier to death for his involvement in the Dec. 14 plot, and Musharraf's military-controlled regime is expected to investigate whether insiders were involved in Ahmad's escape.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 01/09/2005 6:49:35 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They must have had him surrounded.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 01/09/2005 20:05 Comments || Top||

#2  They must have had him surrounded.

"I do not think that word means what you think it means..."
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 01/09/2005 21:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Memo to Perv: Your poor housecleaning skills are about to get you killed. Maybe it's time to reconsider the wisdom of appeasing your religious fanatics with government posts. You know, that whole separation of church and state thingie ...
Posted by: Zenster || 01/09/2005 21:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Well we know he had help from government security agents to get loose. Thats not guessing thats just a simple observation. My suprise meter didn't even twitch when I read this.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 01/09/2005 23:04 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Saddamites launch assasination campaign
Hey! We were just thinking of doing the same thing!
THE murder scene had all the hallmarks of a brutal gangland slaying. But the motive was not money, revenge or a drug deal gone sour, but an increasingly bloody dispute over the future of a nation. Hadi Salih, a 56-year-old labour rights advocate and official of Iraq's Communist Party, affectionately known by friends as Abu Furat, was found strangled to death with a steel wire in his home, his face beaten to a pulp, his hands bound behind his back. His personal files, containing the names and addresses of colleagues in both the party and the labour federation he led were also stolen, his humble home ransacked. With its signs of politically motivated brutality and torture, the scene resembled the interrogation rooms of deposed president Saddam Hussein's security forces, officials said.
As well it should...
"The people who did this are very clearly members of the Ba'ath Party from the former regime," said Mohammad Jassem al-Abad, a leader of the Communist Party, which is participating in the forthcoming parliamentary elections that insurgents violently oppose. "The way they killed him makes it very clear they're the ones who did this," he said. "It is their methods. His assassination wasn't random."

The violence against activists and political parties is expected to increase as the election date draws near. US and Iraqi officials claim they're making headway in gaining the intelligence to crack the insurgency. They have clamped down on rebel strongholds such as Falluja, Samarra and Baghdad's Haifa Street. They say their raids are netting weapons and suspected insurgents. But despite cracking some ground-level insurgent cells, the authorities admit they have yet to infiltrate or even identify the leadership of the insurgency. "This is a group that has 30 or 40 years of clandestine operation experience and has always lived in pretty great secrecy," the senior US diplomat said last night. "They also tend to be heavy family and clan lash-ups."
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 01/09/2005 1:26:04 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Assasinations have been the action of choice in Iraq since Saddam was a pup. This report could have been filed decades ago and simply refreshed in May 2003. No news here.
Posted by: Captain America || 01/09/2005 12:34 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Afghan authorities arrest judge
Afghan authorities have arrested a judge for allegedly harboring the organizers of two bombings last year that killed about 12 people, including four Americans, and believe the ringleaders took their orders from an Iraqi member of al Qaeda, a senior official said Saturday. The purported link to Osama bin Laden's network follows warnings from the U.S. military that foreign militants -- mostly believed to have found refuge in neighboring Pakistan -- were still operating in Afghanistan three years after the U.S. invasion. Gen. Abdul Fatah, a senior Afghan prosecutor, said the judge, Naqibullah, was detained about two weeks ago after two men accused of organizing an Aug. 29 car-bombing against Dyncorp Inc., a security contracting firm based in Reston, told investigators they had stayed at his house in Kabul, the capital. "He is accused of two things. First, he let the terrorists stay in his house. Second, he was aware of their activities but didn't inform anyone," Fatah said.

Naqibullah, who like many Afghans goes by one name, was the head of a preliminary court in the Panjshir Valley, north of Kabul, Fatah said. U.S. military officials had no comment Saturday on the judge's arrest. But Maj. Gen. Eric Olson said in September that al-Qaeda-linked militants may have carried out the car bombing. Three Americans were among about 10 people killed in the attack on the office of Dyncorp, which provides bodyguards for President Hamid Karzai and trains Afghan police officers. Two months later, an attacker wearing a string of hand grenades blew himself up in a shopping district of capital near a group of Icelandic peacekeepers, injuring three soldiers and killing an American woman and an Afghan girl.

Intelligence officials have identified the alleged ringleader of both attacks as Mohammed Haidar, a Tajik, and said he confessed. Fatah said an accomplice, Abdul Ahad, was arrested with Haidar. Ahad and Naqibullah are from the same district of Afghanistan's Kapisa province, he said. Afghan intelligence officials also said Haidar acted on the instructions of a suspected al Qaeda member named Attaullah, who was based in Peshawar, in neighboring Pakistan. Fatah said Attaullah was an Iraqi.
Interesting. This isn't a Taliban or Hekmatyar operation. There aren't any Pashtuns involved. Haidar's a Tadjik, and it looks like it's strictly al-Qaeda. Start of a trend? Or maybe the trend becoming visible?
Posted by: Dan Darling || 01/09/2005 1:12:55 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
Top lieutenant of Mosul emir nabbed
Multinational Forces detained a key leader of the al Qaeda-linked Abu Musab al-Zarqawi terrorist network in Mosul in late December, officials in Baghdad announced today. Following a thorough investigation, the individual detained was positively identified as Abdul Aziz Sadun Ahmed Hamduni, aka Abu Ahmed. Abu Ahmed, who was captured Dec. 22, served as a deputy to the emir of Mosul, Abu Talha, and assumed command of terrorist operations in Mosul in Abu Talha's absence, officials said. Abu Ahmed admitted to receiving money and weapons from Abu Talha as well as coordinating and conducting terrorist attacks in Mosul. "The capture of Abu Ahmed and the subsequent capture of Abu Marwan on 23 December show significant progress in the inevitable destruction of the Abu Talha-led Al Qaeda Zarqawi terrorist network in Mosul," said Air Force Brig. Gen. Erwin F. "Erv" Lessel III, deputy operations director for Multinational Force Iraq.

Security forces in Iraq have previously announced the capture of Abu Marwan, also a senior-level terrorist in the Talha organization. Security forces also recently captured another senior Talha member whose name cannot be released due to operational security. "Currently, security forces in Iraq have three of Abu Talha's four most senior leaders in custody," Lessel said. The capture of these key members has led to additional captures throughout the Mosul-based AQ-AMZ network. Officials said more than 20 percent of Talha's key members have been captured in the past few weeks. Abu Ahmed's capture removed one of Abu Talha's most valuable officers from the Mosul-based network.

Abu Ahmed remains in detention and is providing information regarding the Talha network. "These terrorists and Saddamists are doing all they can to stop upcoming elections," Lessel said. "They fear democracy and the day when the Iraqi people vote for a representative government. The vote by the Iraqi people will reject everything the terrorists stand for -- killing innocents, depriving people of food, electricity." The use of car bombs and other explosive devices by Abu Ahmed and his affiliates shows disregard for the well-being and security of innocent Iraqi civilians. Officials said the Central Criminal Court of Iraq is committed to providing a fair trial to those allegedly engaging in terrorist activities.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 01/09/2005 1:17:18 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How many key leaders do these guys have. Seems almost every day we cath a key leader. Thier red tape must me terrible with that many higher ups.
Posted by: plainslow || 01/09/2005 10:43 Comments || Top||

#2  late December huh? Just announced now? What the hell has he been doing all this time? Ohhh....singing like a canary...
Posted by: Frank G || 01/09/2005 10:43 Comments || Top||

#3  They have a deep bench and excellent succession planning.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 01/09/2005 11:05 Comments || Top||


Mull Iraq hit squads
We should have had kill squads out sometime around October, 2001. Many of our favorite participants in the WoT should be doorknob dead by now. Instead, we're "debating" it. My gag reflex is working overtime.
The Pentagon is reportedly debating whether to set up elite hit squads to target leaders of Iraq's stubborn insurgency in a strategy copied from tactics used against leftist guerrillas in Central America 20 years ago. The plan, dubbed the the "Salvador option," would have U.S. Special Forces teams advise, support and possibly train Iraqi death squads to target Sunni insurgents and sympathizers, Newsweek said on its Web site yesterday. The teams could be made up of renowned Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Shiite militiamen, military insiders said. The squads could even operate across the border in Syria, where Iraqi and U.S. officials say the insurgency draws support and fighters. It was unclear whether they would assassinate leaders or run "snatch" operations, the magazine said. "What everyone agrees is that we can't just go on as we are," one senior military officer said.
Posted by: tipper || 01/09/2005 8:56:00 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Where do we send donations?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 01/09/2005 9:05 Comments || Top||

#2  could even operate in Syria? I say start there
Posted by: Frank G || 01/09/2005 9:27 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm in, Mrs. Davis. I wonder if the Pentagon takes PayPal? :-D

If the choices are assassinate or snatch, I know which one I'd vote for.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 01/09/2005 9:27 Comments || Top||

#4  heh heh - I vote for snatch
Posted by: Beavis || 01/09/2005 9:41 Comments || Top||

#5  I thought we'd abandoned taking prisoners over there.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 01/09/2005 9:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Newsweek carries the story with a suggestive photo accompanying the article. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/

The average reader will assume once the US puts this practice into place innocent American nuns will be slaughtered.

The MSM continues to employ what they view as, at worst, subtle bias against US policy during war time and what the informed reader (re: Rantburgians) sees, at face value, as anti-American propaganda.

Seeing the Newsweek article and the connection to killing innocent nuns in Central America makes me want to vomit.
Posted by: Curious1 || 01/09/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#7  If Hersch and Newsweak are just writing about it, then it is already happening. SF have probably been planning for such activities for months, if not years. Operations are currently underway, but you won't hear about them first from the slimey Hersch or Newsweak.
Posted by: Captain America || 01/09/2005 10:06 Comments || Top||

#8  Targeted assasination can be your friend. Should've been in use since 9-11 (indeed, even before then). I'd suggest parameters that include those who preach and incite jihad.
Posted by: Mark Z. || 01/09/2005 10:36 Comments || Top||

#9  Lets add Iran to those parameters
Posted by: tex || 01/09/2005 10:42 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm just disappointed they are "debating" it. I would have assumed (and hoped) it had started some time ago.

and Curious1, these days the MSM will tell us that the Nuns being "targeted" are those who have devoted their lives to saving the puppies left homeless AFTER we slaughtered their innocent owners. Geez.
Posted by: Justrand || 01/09/2005 11:38 Comments || Top||

#11  March 28, 2003, 11:06PM

U.S. hit squads hunt Iraqi brass
By DANA PRIEST
Washington Post


"WASHINGTON -- U.S. covert teams have been operating in urban areas in Iraq trying to kill members of President Saddam Hussein's inner circle, including Baath Party officials and Special Republican Guard commanders, according to U.S. and other knowledgeable officials.

The covert teams, from the CIA's paramilitary division and the military's special operations group, include snipers and demolition experts schooled in setting house and car bombs. They have reportedly killed more than a handful of individuals, according to one source. They have been in operation for at least one week."

Seems the only thing being considered is training Iraqis.

Posted by: crazyhorse || 01/09/2005 11:50 Comments || Top||

#12  Before someone whose name should not be mentioned shows up, I actually do have reservations about the assasination business. This is serious business and should be subject to some controls. I suggest we publish in newspapers a list of Names of Interest. If they turn themselves within some time period in, they get dealt with by the legal system. If not, they go on a target list. It's not like this type of target will change its behavior or improve its security because it has been in the newspaper. And it will let everybody involved know what is happening and the shooter know they are not on a rogue mission.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 01/09/2005 11:52 Comments || Top||

#13  I suggest we publish in newspapers a list of Names of Interest. If they turn themselves within some time period in, they get dealt with by the legal system. If not, they go on a target list.

Or we could just kill them.
Posted by: Parabellum || 01/09/2005 11:58 Comments || Top||

#14  Mrs. D --

Surely you jest! The names of "people of interest" were initially published with the deck of cards two years ago.

Folks, I am telling you, WaPo, Hersch, and Newsweak are telling a story that has been underway since before the invasion.

The extension into Syria has been more recent by virtue of Syria not meeting US requirements. But plans for covert action in Syria (or Iran) are well developed and underway. Don't expect to learn about them through Hersch, Newsweak, or WaPo until several weeks post intervention.

As for Iran, plans are well developed but require a much different operation. The EU-3 and UN/IAEA are more a hinderance than a help here.

As for training Iraqis for covert action, building an indigenous SF team requires a much longer learning curve than simply standing up a National Guard and police force. There are short cuts in place, along the lines of US embeds. SF is the training arm, so, here again, don't expect to get fresh updates from your friendly Hersch, Newsweak or WaPo.

Does anyone remember Hersch's commentary during our Afganistan intervention? The day before Afgan fell, Hersch filed a report stating that the US forces were in serious trouble and were likely to fail. So much for credibility.
Posted by: Captain America || 01/09/2005 12:26 Comments || Top||

#15  Yeah, Sy Hersh hasn't filed an accurate story since 1972.

Unless the facts were intentionally leaked to him, that is.

Heh heh heh...
Posted by: Parabellum || 01/09/2005 13:11 Comments || Top||

#16  OK I've mulled it over. Let's roll.
Posted by: Seafarious || 01/09/2005 13:13 Comments || Top||

#17  The logic of this is inescapable. Ultimately Iraqis have to fight the counter-insurgency war, and only the Kurds and Shias are motivated to do it against the Sunni Arabs. Ethnically or tribally pure militias are also much better able to keep out infiltrators.

Some large scale covert action by Kurds in Syria and Iran would divert their attention away from meddling in Iraq.
Posted by: HV || 01/09/2005 13:50 Comments || Top||

#18  What we need in Iran is an insurgancy. I figure since they are behind the one in Iraq (via Syria) we should at least return the favor. But only against the Mullah's and not the people of Iran.

Plus we still owe them for the hostages. Time for payback.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 01/09/2005 13:54 Comments || Top||

#19  I believe this program should be extended to the entire world, with the crucial element, terror-inciting propagandists, as the primary target.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 01/09/2005 15:34 Comments || Top||

#20  Iraq, Syria, Iran? Why limit yourselves?

The time is now to begin snuffing ALL violent jihadist imams worldwide. The only way to eliminate Islamist terrorism is by eliminating those who preach it. Until advocating terrorism is accompanied by immediate and unavoidable death, nothing will change.

The mindset that can countenance civilian atrocities needs to be eradicated from our entire world. It serves no useful purpose and will continue to infect gullible minds until it has been exterminated. The minor loss of human life involved with executing these psychotics pales in comparison to the mass murder they cheerfully envision.

Bashir, Hamza, Qawadari and all their ilk need to be wiped from the face of this earth. By encouraging terrorism, they have forfeited any right to waste our precious oxygen reserves. Wherever terrorism is preached it must be greeted with a final and lethal response. Anything less is merely prolonging our world's agony.
Posted by: Zenster || 01/09/2005 15:43 Comments || Top||

#21  Get a load of the caption on the pic of the dead nuns:
Nuns pray over the bodies of four American sisters killed by the military in El Salvador in 1980

Since the line immediately above the pic mentions the Pentagon, and there is no reference to the Salvadoran military carrying out the killings, the more credulous media-slaves are invited to infer that the US military killed the nuns.

Crap like this directly and provably incites terrorism and it is part of the reason I think MSM goebbelists should be first on the target list.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 01/09/2005 15:43 Comments || Top||

#22  Given the seeming Arab predisposition towards clannishness and thuggery, I'm not certain that training hit squads of Iraqis is a good thing, unless the teams are entirely made up of Kurds.... :)
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 01/09/2005 18:42 Comments || Top||

#23  The photograph and caption in the article will lead almost all left thinking assclowns to believe that the US was directly responsible for it.

Hersch is an islamo-fascist tool, borderline trator and outright un truthful. Any content produced with his name on it is not useful.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 01/09/2005 19:06 Comments || Top||

#24  Hersch lost sight of the border long ago. He's not just anti-__, he's on the other side.
Posted by: .com || 01/09/2005 19:09 Comments || Top||

#25  I'm agin' it unless we do it right. That means adding a few *spit*French*spit* presidents to the list, one or two former US presidents to the list, a handful of the worst offending anti-American dummycritters, (Sen. Babs boxers, Mickey moron, Harold icky, Hitlery Rob'em, etc.) and the majority of the MSM talking heads. If we're gonna clean house,let's clean OUR house at the same time. Traitors, haters, and thugs all need to go.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 01/09/2005 23:26 Comments || Top||


Bad Guyz kidnap 3 officials
Gunmen abducted a deputy governor of a central Iraqi province and two other senior Iraqi officials as they were heading for a meeting with Iraq's top Shia cleric, authorities in Tikrit said Saturday. Khatan Hamada, a deputy governor of the Salahudin province, was leading the three-member delegation which was stopped and kidnapped on Friday near Latifiyah, about 60 kilometres south of Baghdad, said Hamad Hummoud, the Tikrit-based governor of Salahudin. They were to meet Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani in Najaf to discuss national elections scheduled for Dec 30. A house in northern Iraq was destroyed overnight in what residents said on Saturday was a US air strike that killed 14 people and wounded five. "I can confirm an air strike at 2 am (2300 GMT) Saturday south of Mosul. We are showing there were five deaths," a US military spokesperson said.

A suicide bomber detonated his car at a petrol station near an Iraqi police and army checkpoint south of Baghdad on Saturday, killing four civilians and wounding 19, police said. They said most of those killed had been queuing at the fuel pump in the village of Mahaweel, about 80 km south of the capital, which was crowded amid chronic fuel shortages. Saboteurs blew up domestic oil and gas pipelines in northern Iraq on Saturday and crude exports through Turkey remained disrupted following an earlier attack, oil officials said. An explosion ripped off a section of an oil pipeline running from northern fields to the 350,000-barrel-per-day (bpd) Baiji refinery in the Safra area, around 70 km southwest of Kirkuk, they said. Saboteurs also blew up a gas pipeline in the Fatha area near Baiji. One civilian suffered burn wounds in the blast. US-led multinational forces have detained a key leader in the Muslim militant network in Iraq headed by Al Qaeda ally Abu Musab Al Zarqawi, the US military said on Saturday.
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#1  What's Sistani got to say about this?
Posted by: Frank G || 01/09/2005 9:41 Comments || Top||

#2  The usual, I'm sure. A shining light, he is. Just dim as hell.
Posted by: .com || 01/09/2005 9:52 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Waheed brothers deny links with Qaeda network
Denying the charges of having links with Osama Bin Laden's Al Qaeda network, cardiologist Dr Akmal Waheed accused on Saturday law-enforcement agencies (LEAs) of forcing him and his younger brother Dr Arshad Waheed to write down and record on video their confessional statements according to the LEAs' dictation. The doctor brothers refused to be examined on oath and recorded their statements under section 342 of CrPC, depriving the prosecution of the opportunity to cross-examine them.

Narrating the story of their arrest before Feroz Mehmood Bhatti, an anti- terrorism court judge, Dr Akmal stated that in January 2003 personnel of some agency, the name of which he did not know, along with two foreigners raided their house in Malir and interrogated family members about their volunteer work in Afghanistan and their links with Al Qaeda. He said nothing incriminating was recovered from their house and the agency personnel left threatening that if we disclosed it to anyone, we would have to face dire consequences.
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Tribals warned on sheltering militants
I'm gonna have to set up a macro key for this story...
Wazir tribesmen have distributed pamphlets in South Waziristan's regional headquarters, warning the tribal people against giving shelter to foreign militants, a tribal elder told Daily Times on Saturday.
"Mahmoud! What's this here pamphlet say?"
"Hell, I don't know, Ahmed! I can't read neither!"
"Let's ask that nice Arab feller stayin' at the holy man's guest house! Bet he can read!"
The single-page pamphlet in Urdu from little-known 'Qabalili Jirga' were distributed in Wana nine days before the deadline expires for wanted militant Abdullah Mehsud to surrender. The pamphlet asked Wazir tribesmen not to help Al Qaeda-linked foreign militants. For the first time the tribesmen distributed pamphlets themselves, because in the past such an exercise was being carried out either by the Pakistan Army against the militants or by the militants against the authorities. A pamphlet, obtained by Daily Times, describes foreigners as "enemy of peace".
"Good news, Ahmed! He sez it ain't nothin' to worry about!"
"Do not provide shelter or help foreigners. If you do this, you will be at a loss," the pamphlet asks the tribesmen. The pamphlet is titled: "What foreign terrorists and militants want?" It calls upon the tribesmen to join government ranks against unwanted people in their areas. Top military commander Lt Gen Safdar Hussain has set January 15 deadline for the surrender of former Guantanamo Bay inmate Abdullah Mehsud, accused of kidnapping two Chinese engineers in October 2004. Meanwhile, militants fired three mortars at a security check-post in Spinkay Raghzay area of South Waziristan, causing no damage or loss of life. A government official told Daily Times that the mortars missed their target.
Ahah! Hekmatyar!
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Security alert in Punjab
Following an attack on Agha Ziauddin, prominent Shia community leader and imam of the main Gilgit mosque, that left him seriously injured and his two bodyguards dead, law enforcement agencies were on high alert throughout the Punjab province on Saturday. Punjab Home Secretary Hassan Waseem Afzal told Daily Times that the alert was issued to avoid violence similar to that in Gilgit city. Orders for the alert were issued late on Saturday, he added. However, sources said orders for the alert were issued in light of the federal government's instructions that the terrorists from the tribal areas had entered the provinces and could threaten the law and order there. "Information that terrorists are planning to kidnap a VIP has been received. In fact, law enforcement agencies are on alert throughout Pakistan," sources added. The district nazims, district police officers, senior superintendents of police and intelligence agencies have been asked to monitor the situation in their respective areas.
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Murdered social activist laid to rest
The chief of the Baloch Rabita Ittehad Tehreek (BRIT) and a social worker, Anwer Bhaijan, who was shot dead in Kalakot police limits late Friday night was laid to rest in Mewashah graveyard on Saturday. He was 52. Anwer and his friend Iqbal Rasool were returning after attending a funeral when four unidentified men fired on them on Gharib Shah Road in Lyari area. He received three bullets and one of them pierced through his head. Anwer and Iqbal were injured. They were rushed to a hospital where doctors pronounced Anwer dead on arrival. Iqbal was admitted to the hospital where he is out of danger.

When the news of Anwer's killing spread in Lyari, the area reverberated with gunfire. On Saturday protesters burnt tyres on roads in Lyari and Old Golimar. Shops and business remained shut in the two localities. Large contingents of the police and Rangers were deployed in Lyari and Old Golimar to prevent any untoward situation during the funeral of Anwer. On the complaint of Iqbal Rasool a case has been registered against four unidentified assailants at Kalakot police station.
This is kinda becoming a Pak tradition, isn't it? First a fatwah, issued by a holy man affiliated with a "banned" (but still active) sectarian group; then the actual hit, often carried out by the Motorcycles of Doom™; then the riots and the passersby bumped off and/or shot up in the crossfire when the local constabulary arrives on the scene. It's like a kabuki dance, with turbans and live rounds...
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#1  I feel cynical saying this, but it's one method of population control, when there is no access to birth control or coal mines.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/09/2005 3:55 Comments || Top||


Kashmir Korpse Kount
Seven people died in a two-day battle between militants and security forces at a federal tax office in revolt-hit Indian Kashmir that ended Saturday, police officials said. "The operation is over," senior police official Javed Maqdoomi told reporters in Srinagar, capital of Indian Kashmir. In all, two terrorists militants, four security force personnel and a tax official had died in the fighting, he said. The attack began when two grenade-hurling rebels stormed the high-security federal income tax compound late Friday afternoon. A dozen security force personnel and income tax officials were injured during the clash, police said. Police had originally believed they had killed both militants Friday but one remained alive, Maqdoomi said. The guerrilla began hurling grenades and firing at security forces when they approached the building Saturday.
Feistly little bugger.
Friday's attack led to a massive blaze in which some 60 people were rescued from the three-storey building after flames believed sparked by the firing engulfed the top floor. Huge numbers of documents were lost. A lesser-known pro-Pakistan terrorist rebel group al Mansoorain claimed responsibility for the attack in telephone calls to local media.
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#1  Al Mansoorain is a front for Lashkar-e-Taiba
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 01/09/2005 0:17 Comments || Top||


Gilgit incident act of enemies: Sheikh Rashid
Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed has said that the Gilgit incident is an act of the enemies of Pakistan. The minister told PTV on Saturday, "I think killing someone or destroying private property has nothing to do with Islam. Those responsible for the incident are neither Muslims nor Pakistanis," he said. He said certain people could not see a Pakistan progress and from time to time they try to create such situations to tarnish Pakistan's image. He said the culprits would be dealt with sternly.
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Another pipeline blown up in Sui
The latest from Bugti country...
QUETTA: Another gas pipeline was blown up when heavy firing resumed in Sui on Saturday, suspending supply to the Guddu Thermal Power Station. Sources said the 20-inch wide gas pipeline was blown up in heavy shooting by unidentified people. Police said that the fire was controlled and gas supply was suspended from Sui. Another source said that the authorities started supplying gas to the Guddu Power Station from Sindh. Earlier, a gas pipeline was also destroyed in an attack and gas supply was suspended to southern Sindh till Saturday morning. Sources said the pipeline was attacked in retaliation for the alleged gang-rape of a female doctor in Sui. Azad Baloch, member of the Baloch Liberation Front, claimed responsibility of Saturday's attack. On Friday, four people including two children, a woman and a FC personnel were killed in a shootout between security personnel and unidentified men in Sui.
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#1  Who knew? Electricity is un-islamic.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 01/09/2005 2:57 Comments || Top||


11 killed in Gilgit violence
More on last night's post...
At least 11 people were killed, six of them burned alive, and 14 were injured during sectarian clashes in Gilgit on Saturday where a curfew was imposed and troops were deployed to restore order, officials said. The clashes took place after unidentified people shot at the vehicle Agha Ziauddin, Shia community leader and imam of the main Gilgit mosque, was travelling in. Two of his bodyguards and one of the assailants were killed instantly. Mr Ziauddin was also shot and was in serious condition. He was taken to the Gilgit District Headquarters Hospital, from where the administration planned to take him to Islamabad. Shias set fire to several government and private buildings and torched the home of Forest Officer Taighun Nabi, burning him and five people present in his house to death. In another attack, local Health Department chief Dr Sher Wali was shot by the infuriated mob. A male passer-by was also hit and died. The injured included the Northern Areas home secretary's assistant, Akhtar Khattak, and Gilgit Municipal Committee member Syedul Hasnain. The administration announced an indefinite curfew at 1.10pm and the Pakistan Army was called in to restore order. Kashmir Affairs and Northern Areas Minister Faisal Saleh Hayat said on Saturday that the attack on Mr Ziauddin was "a terrorist act". He said the ministry had decided to deploy the FC in Gilgit.
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