RIYADH - The Saudi interior ministry on Tuesday released a new list of three dozen suspected militants wanted on terrorism-related charges both in and outside the kingdom. Most of those on the list, which was published by official media, are Saudis, but they also include suspects from Chad, Kuwait, Mauritania, Morocco and Yemen.
"Mahmoud! You made the Dean's List!"
One Moroccan figured on a 15-strong list of wanted extremists believed to be inside Saudi Arabia, while 21 suspects thought to be outside the country included three Chadians, one Kuwaiti, one Mauritanian and one Yemeni.
[sniff] "Ma would be so proud of me ..."
The interior ministry said the suspects on the latest list are linked âin varying degreesâ to the spate of bombings and shootings launched two years ago. The interior ministry called on the wanted militants to surrender, saying this would be âtaken into consideration when looking into their case,â and repeated earlier promises of hefty financial rewards for anyone who gives information leading to the arrest of one or more suspects or to thwarting a terrorist attack.
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So the Sauds admit that there are 15 militants in the country? I think that they can do better than that if they try. There are 10,000 in the royal family, and every one of them has probably supported terror with financial assistance.
The Soddies iced most of the 26 on the first list, then kicked over a rock and found 36 more "deviants" squirming away.
Saudi Arabia yesterday issued a new list of 36 suspects believed to be linked to a series of terror attacks across the country, reflecting the governmentâs resolve to go ahead with its anti-terror campaign. In the latest response to a two-year campaign of bombings and killings by supporters of the Al-Qaeda terror network, the Interior Ministry broadcast pictures of the suspects on state television and offered hefty rewards for their capture. âSecurity authorities managed to uncover plans by the deviant group who used themselves as a tool to distort Islam and harm the security of the country,â the ministry said in a statement. The ministry offered a bounty of up to SR7 million for anyone who helps capture a terrorist or foil an attack. Most of the wanted men on the new list are Saudis while some are from Chad, Yemen, Morocco and Mauritania. Fifteen are believed to be at large inside Saudi Arabia while 21 are outside the Kingdom. Speaking to Arab News, Gen. Mansour Al-Turki, Interior Ministry spokesman, said the ministry released the new list after thorough investigations. Referring to the suspects outside the Kingdom, Al-Turki said: âWe donât have information on their whereabouts, but we know they have fled the Kingdom.â
Saudi analyst Faris ibn Houzam said that of those outside Saudi Arabia, most were likely to be in neighboring Iraq. âThe issue for the government is when those fighters in Iraq return to Saudi Arabia,â he told Arab News. This is the first time the government has issued a list of terrorists outside of the Kingdom, he said. âBy releasing the list, the ministry is giving an early warning on the men,â he added. âThe list also proved that terrorists in the Kingdom have been receiving outside support.â He also pointed out that many terrorists fled the Kingdom as a result of the governmentâs fierce campaign against the militants.
Saudi security consultant Nawaf Obaid said most of the Saudis â who made up 29 of the 36 names on the new list â were âsecond tierâ militants who had worked under more senior operatives, most of whom have been killed or captured. All but two men on a previous Saudi list of 26 wanted men, published in December 2003, are believed dead or in custody. The non-Saudis are wanted by Saudi Arabia but âalso represent a threat in their native countriesâ because they have gained access to money, logistics and training, Obaid said.
The ministry called on the wanted men to surrender, saying this would be âtaken into consideration when looking into their case.â The statement, which was carried by the Saudi Press Agency, said the families of the suspects as well as the countries of foreign suspects have been informed that the government is searching for them. âThrough information retrieved from those who had taken part in the terrorist attacks since May 12, 2003, it was able to reach valid information about other suspects involved,â the ministry said. The ministry warned citizens and residents against dealing with the suspects, adding that authorities would question anyone who dealt with them. âThe release of the new list offers a chance for anyone who had cooperated or dealt with these suspects in the past to approach security officers to explain their actions, a measure that would relieve them from later being questioned and from charges that could be leveled against them for taking part in terrorist acts,â it said.
The ministry has offered SR1 million to anyone who gives any information that leads to the capture of a wanted terror suspect on the list. SR5 million will be given to anyone who gives any information that leads to the capture of more than one suspect. SR7 million will be given to anyone who gives information that foils a plot to carry out a terrorist act. See the full list here.
(A) Terror suspects who are wanted for their roles in terrorist activities in the country and are believed to be inside the Kingdom.
(1) Younus Mohamed Al-Hiyari, 36, Moroccan. He entered the country in 1991 to perform Haj. He has not left the country since and has gone underground. He has a wife and a child and was last seen east of Riyadh.
(2) Fahd Farraj Al-Juwair, 35, Saudi. Born in Zulfi, his last residence was in Riyadh.
(7) Mohamed Abdul Rahman Al-Suwailemi, 23, Saudi. He used to live in Riyadh and has good computer skills. He is also good in using the Internet. He was last seen in Al-Kharj.
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Only 1 al Ghamdi? They're slackin' off these days. I see the al Shammari clan has a couple, I know some of those, too. If this list was anything like comprehensive, it would have several thousand on it. I'm sure the Ghamdi's, Dossari's, Rushaid's, et al would be more reasonably represented, too, as the upper crust clans. This has the feel of hired hands - Nayef's playing his usual game, protecting the loyal minions and sacrificing fodder.
MADRID - Defence lawyers in Europeâs biggest trial of Al Qaeda suspects appealed Tuesday to Spainâs National Court to acquit suspects charged with helping to prepare the attacks of September 11, 2001 in the United States, warning the court against sentencing âscapegoatsâ on flimsy evidence.
The trial against 24 Islamist suspects including several linked to September 11 is expected to conclude next week. Prosecutor Pedro Rubira has requested more than 74,000 years in prison for suspected Spanish Al Qaeda leader Imad Eddin Barakat Yarkas alias Abu Dahdah, his assistant Driss Chebli and Ghasoub al-Abrash Ghalyoun, who shot videos of the World Trade Center and other landmarks in the United States. Rubira has called for âexemplary sentencesâ showing that terrorism could be combated with judicial means instead of prison camps such as Guantanamo or the Iraq war.
Unless you let them out after 15 years served, in the Euro tradition.
âWhen making an example enters the house of justice, law flies out of the window,â argued Ghalyounâs lawyer Jesus Santaella, saying his client had shot videos of U.S. monuments during a holiday and that there was no evidence against him. A defence lawyer for another accused, Mohammed Khair al-Saqqa who is charged with organizing the transport of the videos to Al Qaeda, warned the court against looking for âscapegoatsâ. Abu Dahdahâs lawyer gas accused Spain of staging an âinquisitorialâ trial against Arabs. Abu Dahdah, a Syrian-born businessman, was detained in 2001 when an Al Qaeda cell was dismantled in Spain.
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"...accused Spain of staging an âinquisitorialâ trial..."
I wish they would. Something along the lines of "The Pit and the Pendulum"...
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Actually, the proper name for the Spanish (and most of Europe's) system of justice is inquisitorial.
The adversarial system that came from British Common Law and is used in the countries she settled has the judge as a neutral arbiter, rarely asking questions. The inquisitorial system has the judge actively investigating the facts of the case. This is how Judge Garzon [sp?] indicted Pinochet, for example.
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The lead prosecutor at the trial of 24 men accused of constituting an Al Qaeda cell has called for the court to hand down an "exemplary sentence" to demonstrate that terrorism can be dealt with without "wars or detention camps".
One thing about taking the warfare approach, once they've been shot dead there's no time off for good behavior and no nonsense about "rehabilitating" the little darlings...
The trial in Madrid of suspected Al Qaeda members, three of whom the prosecution accuses of having links to the 9/11 attacks began in April.
Y'see, none of the people killed on 9-11 get any time off from being dead for good behavior...
The trial is taking place amid high security on the outskirts of the Spanish capital. Prosecutor Pedro Rubira defended the dhimmi European approach to fighting Islamic terrorism, arguing that "we do not need detention camps or wars, but trials of this type where the rule of law is strengthened. The people who stand accused today are not on trial for being Muslims, but for being terrorists," Rubira said.
If they're let off, then they won't be terrorists, right? And if they get light sentences, with time off for good behavior, they won't be terrorists, right?
During his closing statement, Rubira addressed the court directly several times and called on the judges to hand down an "exemplary sentence" based on the evidence in "proceedings that have been very complex". "If terrorism is global, we have to fight it with global verdicts. Consider that what you are preparing to do is not only going to affect Spain, but the world," Rubira said. Before the prosecutor closed his case, defence attorneys for the 24 accused hammered home their arguments and called for acquittal. All the accused deny the charges.
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Right, right. How many terror attacks has spain had in the last few years? How many have we had on U.S. soil? But I'm sure they're right, after all they are European.
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to demonstrate that terrorism can be dealt with without "wars or detention camps"
What a load of crap. Seems to me if you fill your prisons with jihadis, you get a bunch of jihadi training camps - at government expense. I was reading somewhere yesterday that 70% of inmates in French prisons are muslims. They wouldn't be taking the opportunity to plan something would they? Nah, of course not.
BEIRUT, Lebanon, June 29 (UPI) -- The United States offered a reward for tips leading to the arrest of three Lebanese Shiites who hijacked a U.S. airliner and killed a hostage in 1985. A U.S. Embassy statement released in Beirut Wednesday said the U.S. government is offering a reward of up to $5 million for assistance to arrest the suspected hijackers Imad Mugniyeh, Hassan Izz al-Dine and Ali Atwaa who are thought to be in Lebanon or Syria.
I'm surprised they lived this long
"The U.S. will pay cash rewards, in any currency, for information that assists in bringing to justice those who murder and terrorize its citizens," the statement said.
A Trans World Airlines aircraft on a flight from Rome to Boston was hijacked by the Lebanese Shiite gunmen in June 1985 and forced to land in Beirut. The kidnappers killed a U.S. Navy diver on board and threw his body onto the tarmac. The hijacking crisis continued for 17 days, as the hijackers demanded the release of Arab prisoners from Israeli jails.
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Why is this on Page 2? It has no connection with the WOT! It's history! Old news! Nothing there, move on and forget about it.
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Shipman, it has everything to do with the WOT we just didn't know it at the time. Sad thing what they did to that yound man. One of my coworkers was on that plane but was traveling with his passport and the stewardess hid his Military ID. He passed himself as a Realestate broker because he had just bought a new house and knew some of the terminology. Didn't know the guy personally but we got to hear his story at Commanders Call. he had high praise for thestewardess for hiding the military IDs, she saved some lives. I too am surprised that they are still walking the earth, would have thought the Navy Seals would have made them a training/operational mission.
BEIRUT, Lebanon (AP) - Hezbollah guerrillas attacked an Israeli base in a disputed part of the south Lebanon border on Wednesday, and Israel responded with an airstrike. Israel said it suffered casualties in the exchange. The guerrillas attacked three Israeli positions in Chebaa Farms, an area where the borders of Lebanon, Syria and Israel meet, Hezbollah's Al Manar TV channel and Lebanese security officials said. The officials said the attack was with mortar shells and rocket-propelled grenades.
Israeli Defense Force officials said Hezbollah carried out a coordinated attack, firing mortar shells and small arms at one of their bases in Chebaa Farms. The base was hit and there are Israeli casualties, the officials said, but they declined to be specific. Israeli Army Radio reported there were three points of contact in the ongoing clashes near the base. In response, Israel shelled suspected guerrilla hideouts near the town of Kfar Chouba in the vicinity of Chebaa Farms, Al Manar reported. Israeli officials, who spoke on customary condition of anonymity, said Israeli warplanes struck Hezbollah positions in south Lebanon. Lebanese officials confirmed the Israeli airstrike. A group of Hezbollah fighters crossed the border during the attack and the Israeli Defense Force was searching for them, the officials said. Al Manar said a number of Israeli soldiers were wounded in a Hezbollah ambush "after they trespassed the blue line" - the U.N. demarcated border.
Chebaa Farms has become the focus of Hezbollah attacks on Israeli forces since the Jewish state withdrew its troops from southern Lebanon in 2000. Hezbollah attacks the enclave periodically, the last time being on May 21. Lebanon and Syria say Chebaa Farms is Lebanese territory, but U.N. cartographers who surveyed the border after the Israeli withdrawal said it belongs to that part of Syria which Israel has occupied since the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.
Hezbollah, which led a guerrilla war against Israel's 18-year occupation of part of southern Lebanon, is under international pressure to disarm. A U.N. Security Council resolution passed in September demanded that all militia in Lebanon give up their weapons. The guerrilla group has refused, and has so far been supported by the Lebanese government, which claims Hezbollah is not a militia but a movement resisting Israeli occupation.
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Internal Leb politics? Or maybe Hez has hammered down the kool-aid again.
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Israel captured the farms from Syria but Lebanon claims the territory. So, when Israel pull out of Lebanon they did not pull out of Chebaa (also Sheba?) farms. Syria fans the fires but doesn't come down and say they are not Syrian...
They have their cake and eat it too.
From the farms it would be easy to shell lots of northern Israel. Perhaps Israel should just bring in the Cats and lower its elevation to sealevel....
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Hezbollah raises the "kick me" sign even higher!
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The U.N. agreed that the Israeli pullback from Lebanese territory should not include the Shebaa Farms. But Hezbollah needs justification for continued attacks on Israel, no matter how absurd.
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, June 29 (UPI) -- Iraqi authorities captured two Saudi nationals as they tried to sneak into Iraq through the Iraqi-Syrian-Jordanian border triangle, reports said Wednesday. Saudi daily al-Watan quoted an Iraqi interior ministry source as saying the men were carrying weapons and large sums of money when they were arrested before entering Iraq.
"Before entering Iraq"? So, which of the two sides of the Iraqi-Syrian-Jordanian triangle did we nab them on if they weren't in Iraq?
"The two men admitted during interrogation that they planned to carry out armed operations in Iraqi cities in coordination with local Muslim fundamentalist groups," the source said.
Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef bin Abdul Aziz said Tuesday the kingdom is keen on cooperating with the Iraqi authorities on security but found no suitable response from the Iraqis and no channels for cooperation.
He sez that like it's a bad thing
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A bullet in the head for each, the sooner the better.
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Bullet behind the ear. Totally justified. Put it on TV right after their video taped confession of plans to make war on the people of Iraq. Thenshow them being tossed into a grave with a dead pig and dead dog.
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I believe the Saudi Minister is thinking "cooperation" as in returning these Saudis to Saudi. Dream on. Only in body bags, freight prepaid by the Saudis.
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SPoD: Why defile the pig and dog that way?
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The way to win the WoT in Iraq is to take the battle to the sources of terrorism (ideology, people, money, weapons).
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You're all so strict...it's about humiliation.
Something sporting and humorous - say - paraded about someplace like Mobile, Lubbock, or Butte, or maybe WEST WALL STREET slowly behind a chariot driven by Bush (in proper period attire), in Amnesty International approved humanitarian security devices (for their safety and convienience, of course)
LONDON, June 29 (UPI) -- An Arab paper reports toppled Iraqi President Saddam Hussein insisted on signing his testimony as the president of Iraq in his most recent court appearance. The London-based al-Quds al-Arabi quoted sources close to the procedure as saying Saddam appeared in very good health and high morale as he was questioned on his role in the killing of hundreds of people from al-Dujail in the early 1980s after a failed assassination attempt on his life.
They said Saddam denied he had ordered the mass killing, but after the judge told him his former vice president Taha Yassin Ramadan and his half-brother Barzan al-Tikriti testified that he had ordered "revenge mass killings," Saddam said, "If they said that and they signed this testimony, then I am responsible."
One of his defense lawyer told the paper Saddam doubted Ramadan and Tikriti had testified to that effect, "but he behaved as a president should and took responsibility." The hearing was two weeks ago.
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he behaved as a president should
He is probably sniggering to himself at his cleverness. I wonder how long that will last once the trial starts?
That all is not well between Pakistan and Afghanistan was apparent when the U.S. President George W. Bush indulged in some telephonic diplomacy on June 21, 2005, to resolve friction between two key allies in the 'war on terror', urging both to exercise restraint. Shortly after President Bush's call to General Pervez Musharraf, the Pakistani President called his Afghan counterpart Hamid Karzai and both of them reportedly promised to 'continue co-operation' in combating terrorism. But the seriousness of the situation was evident in the fact that the General called Karzai a second time on June 23 to reiterate Pakistan's claim that it was not involved in terrorist incidents in Afghanistan. President Bush was forced to step in after Pakistan reacted strongly to Afghanistan disclosing that it had arrested three Pakistanis for allegedly planning to assassinate the former US Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad..The trio was reportedly waiting for suicide vests packed with explosives to come from Pakistan, but these never arrived, and they were instructed, instead, to carry out the assassination with the weapons they had in hand. While the group affiliation has not been disclosed thus far, a senior intelligence official was quoted as saying on Afghan National Television that they had trained in a "terrorist camp in Pakistan"..Jawed Ludin, President Karzai's spokesperson, has said that there have been a series of attacks in recent weeks, committed by terrorists who had allegedly entered from Pakistan, including a suicide bombing on June 1, 2005, at a mosque in Kandahar, which killed 20 people. Ludin was more assertive at a press conference in Kabul on June 22 when he said "some senior members of the Taliban, including some who are involved in killings and are considered terrorists, are in Pakistan.'' President Karzai, addressing a gathering of the Ulema (clerics), alleged that Islamabad was blackmailing the Taliban and threatening to hand their families over to the US unless they did as told.
Afghan officials have alleged for weeks now that the Taliban and Al Qaeda operatives were coming in from Pakistan, where they are reportedly based in areas of the North West Frontier Province and also from Balochistan. Since the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) launched 30 Arab and Pakistani militants into the Kunar and Nangarhar provinces almost a year ago under the leadership of Colonel Haq Nawaz, sources indicate that Taliban leaders have held frequent meetings with their handlers in Pakistan at Quetta, Peshawar (where the 'moderate Taliban' Jaishul Muslim is based), Kohat, Waziristan and other locations. For instance, on August 11, 2004, senior Taliban leaders, including Mullah Obaidullah, Akhtar Usmani (the 'commander' mentioned by Khalilzad), Akhtar Mansoor and Maulvi Razzak, had met in Quetta to discuss ways to disrupt the October 2004-presidential elections in Kandahar, Zabul, Uruzgan, Nimroz and Helmand provinces.
The more recent escalation in attacks along the border is partly due to the fact that the snow has melted from mountain passes, allowing terrorists to launch strikes from Pakistan and possibly due to the less-reported regrouping of the Taliban/Al Qaeda. U.S. military spokesperson, Colonel James Yonts, revealed on June 20 that foreign terrorists, backed by networks channeling them money and arms, had come into Afghanistan to try and subvert parliamentary elections slated for September 16, 2005. Since March 2005, some 195 persons, including at least 29 U.S. troops and 70 Afghan security force personnel, have died in various incidents of terrorist violence across Afghanistan. At the other end, approximately 300 terrorists have been killed in various security operations
The security establishment in Afghanistan, including coalition intelligence sources, has reportedly indicated a disturbing shift in terrorist tactics, with the Jehadis increasingly adopting 'Iraq-style' suicide attacks. And such attacks are bound to increase ahead of the September parliamentary elections. Defence Minister Rahim Wardak said on June 17 in an interview to the Associated Press that he had received intelligence that Al Qaeda had brought at least six Arab operatives into Afghanistan in the past three weeks. According to him, while one suicide bomber attacked a funeral service for a pro-government cleric at a Kandahar mosque on June 1, killing 20 persons, another rammed a vehicle laden with explosives into a U.S. convoy in Kandahar on June 13, injuring four U.S. soldiers. Suicide bombings are a relatively rare phenomenon in Afghanistan, with most of them suspected to have been carried out by non-Afghans, primarily Arabs. While the minister did not disclose how the suicide bombers entered Afghanistan, officials said men and material are usually moved through Pakistan, implying that Pakistan is again becoming a staging post for the Arab Jehadi. Incidentally, Pakistan's Interior Minister Aftab Khan Sherpao told Daily Times on June 23 that the Al Qaeda had established a strong nexus with outlawed extremist groups in Pakistan. Although he did not provide names, the minister said banned groups were facilitating Al Qaeda operatives inside Pakistan.
Pakistan is noticeably seeking to regain the foothold it lost after the Taliban rout in Afghanistan, and is reframing its quest for 'strategic depth'. Pending a U.S. 'solution' or 'exit', the Pakistani leadership will continue to seek means to recover leverage in Afghanistan. More importantly and possibly critical to Pakistan's desire for strategic space, there are concerns that an Afghan regime that is friendlier to India could leave Pakistan sandwiched between two 'adversaries', something which no regime in Islamabad would find acceptable.
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between Karzai and Pervez, I'd choose to believe Karzai.
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Gee, is it possible there are things going on in Pakiwackiland of which Musharraf is not aware? We keep finding little training camps in Iraq - maybe he missed a couple in some "no-go" zones?
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There's flyover PakiWakiLand and then there's no-flyover, no-lookee, no-Pervy, no-waay PakiWakiLand. Pervy prolly controls his office, methinks, but it seems as though everything else is ISI's. But doesn't he look dashing in his uniform? Love the sash.
Now, can much the same be said of Karzai? I'd say yes, his hat is very nifty and prolly perfect in the brutal Afghan Winter, I'd wager, and he has this shawl thingy that's on every Metrosexual's To Die For list.
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The Pak's are looking for strategic depth in Afghanistan? Ohfergawdsakes! Having virtually no control over the sand and rocks in the Northwest Frontier, they wish to extend their lack of control over the sand and rocks in southern Afghanistan. Sheeesh.
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The hutments is all posted "No Trespassing. An' No Interlopin', Neither. Now Git!"
A gentle reminder on posting rules in light of our 95-post day yesterday:
Please check for duplicates before posting. Please check for duplicates before posting.
Please remember to edit and cut the fluff. It makes articles shorter and easier to read. There's no need to put "snip" in anywhere -- MSM editors don't use "snip" when they edit out all the balance and content, why should you? Your comments go as hilite text on a separate line (almost always), not embedded in the article text. Sorta like this.
There's no need to add extra paragraph breaks. If you want to embed a snarky comment or a dumb-assed comment like mine within the article, use the 'strike' text.
Also, remember to put the link in the 'source' box -- don't embed it as an 'href' in the text. Try not to embed pictures that reference out to another news source, as it eats bandwidth, unless we really need the pic to understand the story.
Opinions go to the new & improved 'Opinions' page. Snappy, eh? 'WoT Operations' are for the end-result: who whacked whom, etc. 'WoT Background' is for the rest of the WoT. While many of us have a fondness for tech, space issues, and the like, that generally is found elsewhere on the net -- if you feel you have to post that stuff here, edit it severely. Stupid animal-human stories are always welcome. Edit severely and put into 'Non WoT'.
'Short Attention-Span Theater' is not used to move a story to the top -- we have the ledes at the top for that purpose. Put the post in the category that is appropriate.
As always, thanks!
Also, please wait a moment and check to see if your comment got through before you resend it. I've been deleting duplicates when/where I notice them, but since the Net has been slow lately with kids out of school, a lot have been creeping in.
Thanks!
Update for Mike and the lovely Mrs. Davis: as the other Steve noted, put 'EFL' in hilite text at the top; we'll all know that you edited the post for length/content. There's no need for 'snip', ellipses, or anything else. Most weblogs I've seen that summarize news from elsewhere do it this way.
For Phil B: Tranzi idiocy is always welcome. If the original was an opinion piece, put it in the 'Opinion' section. If from a weblog, put the title and source in the proper boxes but don't quote the text (or just the key lede); we can go there.
And don't be putting large pictures, loooong links or collections of links in comments. It can blow formatting on the whole page. I just had to put someone in the Troll bin for that very reason. If Fred is feeling kind he may let you out.
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I assume tranzi idiocy - UN, Kyoto, HRW, AI, etc, etc - is still welcome.
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Dissent on snip. It is an indication that there is more at the link if you choose to go there. Absence indicates that the whole article is copied and no need to go to the link. Who cares what MSM does? It's not like they've got aq ton of credibility.
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I'm suprised, he didn't mention a word about my filthy fu*king mouth.
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It is an indication that there is more at the link if you choose to go there.
When you edit a bunch of trash out of a story to get to the meat of it, put "EFL" (Edited For Length) and highlite it before the story. That way people know there is more at the link.
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Wrt duplicate comments: I had JavaScript turned off yesterday (don't ask), and when I clicked 'Submit Query' for the comment the article didn't redisplay--I got a blank screen. So, like a dummy, I hit 'Reload.' Presto, two instances of the comment. Note to self: caffeine is a good thing in the morning...
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cool - I thought our idiotic Islamapologist was back....
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Re snipping: I use an elipsis (". . .") for small edits, and a hilited comment (e.g. "Long analysis deleted to save space.") for long cuts. Is that good or bad?
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I thought the right way to edit out un-needed stuff was to place ....befor and after.... an edit section?
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That's fine. I use ellipsis when I bother at all. And I always cut the reiteration of what everyone already knows without bothering to note it.
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How does linking to pictures hosted on other sites affect Fred's bandwidth? If he's not hosting the picture, it shouldn't count against his bandwidth -- or am I mistaken on this premise?
I'm not advocating widespread linking to other sites' pictures, by any means, because it will chew up their bandwidth ("bandwidth highjacking" is a common term I've heard to describe this practice). However, linking judiciously to pictures, especially on already high-trafficked sites like Yahoo news, etc., shouldn't affect their bandwidth too noticeably.
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The problem with linking to other sites' pictures is that if they're not there -- connection's down, been removed, whatever, the server sits there grinding, trying to find the non-existent. Add in the fact that with 90 posts and 600 comments, you get a lag every time you look for another site to pull the photo. One or two are no big deal, if they're there, but multiply the lag by a dozen or two dozen and you've really hurt page load time, which doesn't get any quicker the bigger the page gets.
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When you say no "loooong links or collections of links," I presume you mean not typing the URL directly in the comment? I presume it's still OK to use the [a href=''] jobber? I sure hope it's all right to .com to include links to his picture collection, as long as he doesn't do the [img src] thingie?
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Direct questions are so ver uncool Capt. Try a rephrase.... What the hell's SAST and why should we care? Is it a variable in the price of AK-47s in far away Preshawar? If so why isn't there a ticker on Spot AK-47 sales? I see a lacka foresight here. We need real-time hardware quotes.
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And I'd like to ask...indirectly...what color belongs to what editor??? Don't get me wrong, the colors are pretty, but I didn't get that memo explaining these things...anyone have a copy?
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To the Rantburg Rulers and GeeWiz Server .fisher people.
How about a one time idiot post [for us-ens] with all the posting examples, color pic rules, bandwidth suckers, fallopian tube demerits etc.
we could then file them in a mouldy file somewhere.
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rantberg becumin complacencated
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Law- enforcement agencies have taken over a dozen suspects into custody in connection with Sundayâs rocket attack on the residence of Chief Minister Jam Mir Mohammad Yousuf in Kalat. âWe have taken over a dozen suspects into custody,â a senior police officer said. A team of police officers is already interrogating the suspects.
Sources said that law-enforcement personnel had cordoned off a vast area and were following the tracks of vehicles used in the attack on the CMâs house. âThe situation will be clear soon as we will reach the culprits,â sources said. Meanwhile, Chief Minister Jam Mir Mohammad Yousuf described the rocket attack at his Kalat residence as a âcowardly actâ and said that such acts could not coerce him into backing down from the development of Balochistan. âI will continue my efforts for the speedy development of Balochistan,â Jam Yousuf said. âOur traditions do not allow us to go against political and democratic values. We have to honour these values. If we will go against them, then the âchaddar and char dewariâ of anyone would not be protected tomorrow,â Chief Minister Jam Yousuf cautioned. âI have no enmity with anybody, but have political differences concerning the development of Balochistan,â he said. At the same time he underscored the need for restricting these differences on a political level and not making them personal.
Gawd, I love that cranial upholstery...
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Now, THAT is a hat.
You've got to admit, all this WOT stuff has exposed the culture to some real sartorial inspiration.
National Assembly legislator Sheik Dhari Ali al-Fayadh, his son, and two bodyguards were killed when a suicide car bomber rammed his vehicle into theirs as they traveled to parliament from their farm in Rashidiya, 20 miles northeast of Baghdad. Al-Fayadh, a Shiite in his late 80s, was the eldest member of the new parliament and had acted as temporary speaker. He belonged to the country's largest Shiite political party, the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, the senior partner in the governing coalition. It marked the second political assassination in a week, coming after the June 22 killing of a prominent Sunni Arab who had been a candidate to join a committee drafting Iraq's constitution. Al-Qaida in Iraq, which has declared war on Shiites, claimed responsibility for al-Fayadh's assassination on an Islamic Web site. The statement's authenticity could not be verified.
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Suspected Al Qaeda linked militants in tribal belt have issued death threats to 28 tribal elders, prayer leaders and social workers accused of spying for the government. Photocopies of a note handwritten in Pashtu were circulated in this village in the North Waziristan district bordering Afghanistan by unidentified people late Sunday, residents said. It listed the names of 28 people and warns them to get ready to die. Three of them have already survived attempts on their lives. "These people are spying for government and informing it about the activities of Mujahedeen," said the unsigned note, a copy of which was obtained by AFP.
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Bombs killed a top policeman and four other people in Afghanistan on Tuesday and rockets struck near a UN election office, but the government said Taleban guerrillas would not derail parliamentary polls in September. âThe (guerrilla) challenges are very feeble,â government spokesman Jawed Ludin told a news briefing, vowing the elections would be even more successful than last Octoberâs presidential ballot won by US-backed Hamid Karzai. The police chief of Sarkano district in the eastern province of Kunar was killed along with two of his sons when a roadside bomb blew up their vehicle south of the provincial capital Asadabad, officials said. Seven police were wounded.
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A U.S. CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter, which a military official said may have been carrying 15 to 20 people, crashed Tuesday while ferrying reinforcements to fight insurgents in a mountainous region in eastern Afghanistan. The Taliban claimed to have shot down the aircraft. The fate of those on board the helicopter, which crashed near Asadabad in Kunar province, was not immediately known, the U.S. military said. A statement said the cause of the crash was unclear.
Other helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft were sent to the crash site, the military said. Other details were not available, according to U.S. military spokesman Lt. Col. Jerry O'Hara. In Washington, a U.S. military official said early reports indicated 15 to 20 people were on board. There was no word on their condition, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because it involved initial operational reports. Provincial Gov. Asadullah Wafa told The Associated Press that the Taliban downed the aircraft with a rocket. He gave no other details. Purported Taliban spokesman Mullah Latif Hakimi telephoned the AP before news of the crash was released and said the rebels shot the helicopter down.
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when shithooks diverge..low %. I hope someone survived.
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Update. Not good.
KABUL, Afghanistan (CBS) A senior military official believes the 17 American service members aboard a U.S. Chinook helicopter that crashed in Afghanistan on Tuesday were believed to have been killed, CBS News has learned.
The senior Pentagon official spoke on condition of anonymity after the military earlier said the U.S. Chinook helicopter was likely shot down by hostile fire."Initial reports indicate the crash may have been caused by hostile fire," a U.S. military statement said.
The Chinook helicopter was carrying members of a special operations unit into an operation against al Qaeda and Taliban fighters in the rugged mountains near the border with Pakistan when a second helicopter reported seeing an explosion, reports CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin.
"Coalition troops on the ground in this area came in contact with enemy forces and requested additional forces to be inserted into this operation," U.S. military spokesman Col. James Yonts told a news conference. "That is why there was an aircraft, that is how it arrived on the battlefield."
Purported Taliban spokesman Mullah Latif Hakimi telephoned the AP before news of the crash was released and said the rebels shot the helicopter down. He said the rebels filmed the attack and would release the video to the media. He also claimed that rebels killed seven U.S. soldiers in an attack in the same area, although U.S. spokeswomen Lt. Cindy Moore said no such attack had been made on an American convoy.
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I heard a little snippet on the complimentary TV at the laundry I wash clothes at that said that after the helicopter had crashed, the enemy went in and killed what survivors there were. If there's any truth to this, from here on out, U.S. soldiers should completely destroy by fire any enemy forces they encounter. Leave nothing on the battlefield but bits of flesh and bone. Time to grind these "insurgents" underfoot COMPLETELY.
Jaish Ansar Al-Sunnah Reveals To The Islamic Ummah The Strategy Behind The Recent Attacks Against The Cross Worshippers And The Apostate Government
Oh, they have a strategy, do they?
"Yeah! Killin' people!"
In The Name Of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Hello to you, too...
Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the Worlds. Peace and prayer be upon the Imam (leader) of Mujahideen, his family and his companions.
That'd be Mr. Zarq, I believe. Or maybe Binny...
The recent intensity of Mujahideen operations, including the timing and location of those operations, did not occur by accident. It was deliberately done to spoil the apostate Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafariâs visit to Washington, DC.
I think we might have guessed that. It's SOP with the Paleostinians and the Kashmir thugs, after all...
The prime Minister had to scrap all of his originally prepared speeches, which were meant to convey to George Bush the news about the success of âoperation lighteningâ and the new Iraqi governmentâs victory over the Mujahideen. This was supposed to paint a rosy picture of the ability of the new government to take care of security matter, thereby allowing Bush to claim progress and perhaps use that to declare âmission accomplishedâ and pave the way to withdraw from Iraq.
I don't think he intended to do that. On the teevee tonight he said we're going to stay as long as needed. And the disloyal opposition would have continued it's nattering with or without a spike in booms.
Your Mujahideen brothers have spoiled all of that. Jaafari was forced to change his speeches to the point that he was searching for words to describe the state of affairs in Iraq. Instead of giving the cross worshipper Bush the opportunity to get out of Iraq, he was begging him to keep his (Bushâs) forces in Iraq.
The term "cross worshippers" is supposed to be pejorative, of course. Sounds kind of funny coming from the Koran worshippers...
The whole world watched both Bush and Jaafariâ in a joint press conference that failed to convince those in attendance (let alone those who have first hand knowledge from the battle ground) of any progress being made by either the Americans or the newly installed apostate government. The Mujahideen have shown that âOperation Lighteningâ has failed. The descended unchallenged to many areas of Baghdad and took control and not even the American forces dared to challenge their presence.
It's an Iraqi operation, with backup by U.S. forces. How're things in Qaim, by the way?
We like to remind everyone that we constantly target the cross worshippers and whoever cooperates with them in any shape or form.
That could be because you're a bunch of vicious killers, steeped in religious lunacy...
We would also like to bring glad tiding to people of Tawheed. We are dealing the enemies of Allah disgraceful defeat, by the Grace of Allah. We are certain that Allah will fulfill his promise to his faithful servants.
The fact that you all haven't turned into pillars of salt yet merely reinforces my agnosticism...
{Already has Our Word been passed before (this) to Our Servants sent (by Us), that they would certainly be assisted, and that Our forces, they surely must conquer.} 73:171-173
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18 Jumada Al-Ula, 1426
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ROFL! Precious. Now they send people to Business School so they can more effectively communicate with us. How sweet. The statement is just the usual third-rate claptrap of all "ist" movements that try to sound as if they're brave warriors all covered in glory.
If they're so successful, why are they still stuck on the flypaper and predominantly only able to kill innocent Iraqi bystanders? You make up collaborator lies to cover for your impotence and cowardly limpdick murders.
Allan's mercy is about as potent as Allan's will to defeat the infidels, Bubba. You're just another dead man walking, headed toward that sudden bodyslam that takes your breath, sight, and hearing... next thing you're aware of is that you're whimpering like a baby girl and sporting a gut wound that hurts like nothing else on earth and lets you linger long enough to be painfully aware when the dogs find you and begin their snarling contest to pull your living entrails out and drag them through the sand to some safer place where they can dine in peace. The last thought you'll have is how shiny and silvery they look...
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"... We would also like to bring glad tiding to people of Tawheed. We are dealing the enemies of Allah disgraceful defeat, by the Grace of Allah. We are certain that Allah will fulfill his promise to his faithful servants..."
Tawheed means, more or less, monothesism. There are a number of different aspects to this but one of them is the requirement for a unity of worship. This, in turn, means that if you are a sunni supremicists, you believe that the Shia rituals sabotage this aspect of monothesim. Thus, since defense of monotheism is even more important than jihad, not only may you kill the Shia, you must do so.
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Hmmm... more waste of cyber-space from a fascist moon-worshiper (aka Allah the 99th name of the moon god by the pagans of ancient Arabia). Take comfort Josh Ahswear Al-Bundhi Sunni, your days & night of being lost from the graces of God and worshipping the Koran instead will end soon. The world watches and so does God; your pain of confusion and pathological dementia in regards to reality and the true one and living God will surely end soon. God will deliver your just rewards and the pain will be beyond your expectations. God's punishment of the destroyers of innocents and blasphemers of his word, and destroyers of his creations will strike your heads far from sight and your eyes will fill with the burning sands sticking to your open eyes, and your open-mouth head will rest among road litter within thorny weeds surrounded by discarded cola cans and dog excrement. The flies will fill your mouth and ears to bring life to your worthless head. The larva that will feast upon your head will finally give appearance of life to you... and your soul? What of it? You have no more soul than that of a pile of pig bones and skin rotting in a ditch outside your mud hut. You Jaish Ansar Al-Sunnah fly speck will meet your maker and he wields a large fly swatter to squish you as you squirm your way to approach his glorious presence. Your carcass will join the trash pit of the other pigs garbed in holy causes of death and deceit. Your soul will be caged with the dogs that distorted God's holy words and works. You get away with your lies and deceit to serve Satan, but in the end God will smite thee for what you are, pretend to be, and plot to committ more evil. You can fool the oppressed and impoverished, you can fool the media (no challange there), but you dare to try and fool God? You are fools and the irony will present itself to you soon enough. Virgins in heaven for your fleshy pursuits of self-gratification and materialistic lust? Those are more important that God? You are sons of Satan and will become his harem instead.
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Can one of the more enlighted scholars here help me> I recently read about a doctrine in islam, or at least a branch of islam that permits deception, disinformation and outright lies by their followers if it serves the casue of jihad and they are weak. Can anyone point me to it. I need to be able to confront some public statements by imams by questioning their truthfulness in light of this doctrine. Any help?
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Google both taqqiya and taqiyya (phonetic bullshit) and you'll get TONS of links - everything from wikipedia to the freepers themselves regards this tenet of Islam. BTW, this is from the haddiths and is true of all Islam, assuming they're actually practicing it as intended by Mo. I'm sure there are some flavors which eschew this practice, but then that makes them apostates.
Three Kenyan men have been acquitted of charges that they were involved in an al-Qaida-linked bombing of an Israeli-owned hotel. The men had also been accused of trying to shoot down an Israeli airliner. Nairobi chief magistrate Aggrey Muchelule said none of the evidence presented linked the men to the attacks.
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MADRID - Defence lawyers in Europeâs biggest trial of Al Qaeda suspects appealed Tuesday to Spainâs National Court to acquit suspects charged with helping to prepare the attacks of September 11, 2001 in the United States, warning the court against sentencing âscapegoatsâ on flimsy evidence.
The lead prosecutor at the trial of 24 men accused of constituting an Al Qaeda cell has called for the court to hand down an "exemplary sentence" to demonstrate that terrorism can be dealt with without "wars or detention camps". 
Sources said that law-enforcement personnel had cordoned off a vast area and were following the tracks of vehicles used in the attack on the CMâs house. âThe situation will be clear soon as we will reach the culprits,â sources said. Meanwhile, Chief Minister Jam Mir Mohammad Yousuf described the rocket attack at his Kalat residence as a âcowardly actâ and said that such acts could not coerce him into backing down from the development of Balochistan. âI will continue my efforts for the speedy development of Balochistan,â Jam Yousuf said. âOur traditions do not allow us to go against political and democratic values. We have to honour these values. If we will go against them, then the âchaddar and char dewariâ of anyone would not be protected tomorrow,â Chief Minister Jam Yousuf cautioned. âI have no enmity with anybody, but have political differences concerning the development of Balochistan,â he said. At the same time he underscored the need for restricting these differences on a political level and not making them personal.
National Assembly legislator Sheik Dhari Ali al-Fayadh, his son, and two bodyguards were killed when a suicide car bomber rammed his vehicle into theirs as they traveled to parliament from their farm in Rashidiya, 20 miles northeast of Baghdad. Al-Fayadh, a Shiite in his late 80s, was the eldest member of the new parliament and had acted as temporary speaker. He belonged to the country's largest Shiite political party, the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, the senior partner in the governing coalition. It marked the second political assassination in a week, coming after the June 22 killing of a prominent Sunni Arab who had been a candidate to join a committee drafting Iraq's constitution. Al-Qaida in Iraq, which has declared war on Shiites, claimed responsibility for al-Fayadh's assassination on an Islamic Web site. The statement's authenticity could not be verified.
Suspected Al Qaeda linked militants in tribal belt have issued death threats to 28 tribal elders, prayer leaders and social workers accused of spying for the government. Photocopies of a note handwritten in Pashtu were circulated in this village in the North Waziristan district bordering Afghanistan by unidentified people late Sunday, residents said. It listed the names of 28 people and warns them to get ready to die. Three of them have already survived attempts on their lives. "These people are spying for government and informing it about the activities of Mujahedeen," said the unsigned note, a copy of which was obtained by AFP.
Bombs killed a top policeman and four other people in Afghanistan on Tuesday and rockets struck near a UN election office, but the government said Taleban guerrillas would not derail parliamentary polls in September. âThe (guerrilla) challenges are very feeble,â government spokesman Jawed Ludin told a news briefing, vowing the elections would be even more successful than last Octoberâs presidential ballot won by US-backed Hamid Karzai. The police chief of Sarkano district in the eastern province of Kunar was killed along with two of his sons when a roadside bomb blew up their vehicle south of the provincial capital Asadabad, officials said. Seven police were wounded.
A U.S. CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter, which a military official said may have been carrying 15 to 20 people, crashed Tuesday while ferrying reinforcements to fight insurgents in a mountainous region in eastern Afghanistan. The Taliban claimed to have shot down the aircraft. The fate of those on board the helicopter, which crashed near Asadabad in Kunar province, was not immediately known, the U.S. military said. A statement said the cause of the crash was unclear.
Jaish Ansar Al-Sunnah Reveals To The Islamic Ummah The Strategy Behind The Recent Attacks Against The Cross Worshippers And The Apostate Government
Three Kenyan men have been acquitted of charges that they were involved in an al-Qaida-linked bombing of an Israeli-owned hotel. The men had also been accused of trying to shoot down an Israeli airliner. Nairobi chief magistrate Aggrey Muchelule said none of the evidence presented linked the men to the attacks.
