Commanders from five Nato countries whose troops have just fought the bloodiest battle with the Taliban in five years, are demanding their governments get tough with Pakistan over the support and sanctuary its security services provide to the Taliban.
Nato's report on Operation Medusa, an intense battle that lasted from September 4-17 in the Panjwai district, demonstrates the extent of the Taliban's military capability and states clearly that Pakistan's Interservices Intelligence (ISI) is involved in supplying it.
I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that the NATO commanders will say that publicly.
Commanders from Britain, the US, Denmark, Canada and Holland are frustrated that even after Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf met George W Bush and Tony Blair last week, Western leaders are declining to call Mr Musharraf's bluff. "It is time for an 'either you are with us or against us' delivered bluntly to Musharraf at the highest political level," said one Nato commander.
Perv already decided that.
"Our boys in southern Afghanistan are hurting because of what is coming out of Quetta," he added.
The Taliban use the southern province of Balochistan to co-ordinate their insurgency and to recuperate after military action. The cushion Pakistan is providing the Taliban is undermining the operation in Afghanistan, where 31,000 Nato troops are now based. The Canadians were most involved in Operation Medusa, two weeks of heavy fighting in a lush vineyard region, defeating 1,500 well entrenched Taliban, who had planned to attack Kandahar city, the capital of the south. Nato officials now say they killed 1,100 Taliban fighters, not the 500 originally claimed. Hundreds of Taliban reinforcements in pick-up trucks who crossed over from Quetta waved on by Pakistani border guards were destroyed by Nato air and artillery strikes.
Excellent! Now just hit 'em whilst they're still in Quetta.
Nato captured 160 Taliban, many of them Pakistanis who described in detail the ISI's support to the Taliban.
Nato is now mapping the entire Taliban support structure in Balochistan, from ISI- run training camps near Quetta to huge ammunition dumps, arrival points for Taliban's new weapons and meeting places of the shura, or leadership council, in Quetta, which is headed by Mullah Mohammed Omar, the group's leader since its creation a dozen years ago.
And what a coincidence, the ISI operation is remarkably similar to the structure created for the Kashmir terrs.
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Nato is now mapping the entire Taliban support structure in Balochistan, from ISI- run training camps near Quetta to huge ammunition dumps, arrival points for Taliban's new weapons and meeting places of the shura, or leadership council, in Quetta, which is headed by Mullah Mohammed Omar, the group's leader since its creation a dozen years ago.
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Hundreds of Taliban reinforcements in pick-up trucks who crossed over from Quetta waved on by Pakistani border guards
Start blowing these "border guards" off of the map until there is some semblance of interdiction. Until then, all crossing stations should be targeted when any ISI traffic shows up.
It's long been past time to violate Pakistan's sovereignty.
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"It is time for an 'either you are with us or against us' delivered bluntly to Musharraf at the highest political level," said one Nato commander.
...I thought that kind of thinking was simplisme' , cowboyish, unilateral..except when THEY'RE getting shot at, apparently.
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Can we all agreee that syria, iran, and pakistan harbor, harm, train and supply the enemy in Afghanistan and Iraq? Okay.
Now please, explain to me (since I'm a little slow to understand) why have we not taken the fight across the border of each of those countries. I have every reason to believe we've asked each of those countries politely to cease and desist. To no avail. Our boys and the boys of our allies are being killed by weapons and enemy coming from syria, iran, and pakistan.
Are we not strong enough to take the fight across these borders? If so, just tell me. But if we are strong enough, then why don't we do it?
As a side note, could things really be siad to be much "worse" in Afghanistan if Perv "wasn't an ally"?
I'm just asking....
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One reason the fight isn't taken to Pakistan is the logistics of the Afghan operation run through Pakistan. Nothing will happen until, at minimum, Balochistan is separated from Pakistan.
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Does Pakistan honestly think they can win a war against the West when they cant beat India?????
They don't acknowledge that they can't beat India. It is something they pretend isn't true. As far as India is concerned, they might be difficult for even us to beat, short of going nuke.
I certainly wouldn't want to see our ground troops mix it up with theirs. They are some HARD MoFo's used to a lot more privation and hardship. And they do not call in air-support everytime the going gets a little hot.
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Okay, so we decide that Perv is against us. What do we do?
We aint no way in hell gonna occupy Quetta, say. We attack it from the air with pinpoint strikes on key locations? Weve seen how effective that is in Lebanon, no? No ground presence, means no intell, nothing to keep the opponent from hiding and dispersing. Air plus some spec ops probably doesnt win either. Sure, you'll make it harder for the Taliban to operate, but is that worth the hearts and minds loss all over the place? Not just in Pakistan, where 80% of the country will rally to the ISI (and the remaining 20% will be in very deep doo-doo) but in most of the rest of the Sunni muslim world (apart from Afghanistan). Oh, and now youve got a regime thats gone completely to the AQ side, and has nukes.
If youre gonna do this, it cant be just break with Pakistan, in order to some bombing and spec ops raids over the border. The cost is more than those raids are worth. IF youre gonna do this, you have to have a strategy for completly breaking the ISI-AQKhan-HamidGul regime (cause thats what it will be after the break, even if they leave Perv as a figurehead). And THAT can only involve India, and the Pakistani secular opposition. So its got to be very well coordinated. If youre gonna do it, youd damned well better not shoot from the hip.
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OTOH, from what I can gather Quetta has a population of only about half a million, only about 40% larger than Kandahar. Maybe we CAN occupy Quetta, and with it, other parts of Baluchistan. Id think we need more troops than we currently have in Afghanistan - even if in the long run denying the Taliban sanctuary makes the situation in Afghanistan easier, i doubt it will in the short run.
Note that it would be very helpful to have a strong political relationship with the Baluchi rebels in order to pull this off.
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Were we not recently getting a *I see nothing* from Perv recently when we chased some of these goons in hot pursuit across the border. Maybe, we can get Perv to look the other way again whilst we wipe all of these "mapped out" areas off the map?
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Partitioning. When Pakistan is broken into 3 - 5 independent (and feuding---with a little help) countries, Pakistan will stop being a problem.
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Liberalhawk,
You've framed the issue very well. We can't accomplish much by ourselves. We could ruin a lot of territory, but for stability we need India to get aboard and do something. Just like we need Japan to counterweight Chicom + NKors. It is interesting that once in the sandbox, it didn't take NATO group long at all to identify the problem. Pakland has been doing these cross border raids since its inception. Into India, Kashmir,Afghanistan,etc. Will never cease. Whether Pervert is gone really doesn't matter.Only India, with a heavy boot heel, can probably put a stop to the nonsense which is Pakland. So far, they have been far too accomodating.
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Good thread into getting into the basic issues. It seems to me that Pak-Land is getting the money to run its sh*tty little country from Saudi Arabia and the US. The US has some *and I mean some* ability to influence events. We are not using our *ahem* influence to rein in the Saudis. It seems that this is just another game of "Follow the money" which leads back to SA. Deny the terrorists in Pak Land the money and it withers on the vine.
The only fly I see in the ointment is how much money the terrorists get from the opium trade. And what fraction of is in the big money scheme of things.
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Part of the problem with influencing Saudi Arabia is that since the 1970s they've used their oil profits to buy up all sorts of investments, so now they are nicely diversified in European hotel chains, Fox television, etc. Fiscally wise, and it means they always have a nice place to stay when they go abroad, but...
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Why not just station some air assets at the border checkpoints that have the hospitable (to the terrs anyway) guards; they can loiter there and when the Brave Lions are running away, open up with while still outside Pak borders. that gets the bad guys all concentrated and doesn't violate the PAK's (spit) borders. Perv can keep playing his stupid game and we can honestly say that we never invaded. let the terrs just pile up, or maybe D-9 them over the line.
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It's not an impossible problem to solve, but it's not an easy one. It's time to pull Perv's string, HARD. Tell him he has 30 days to bring the ISI under control, or we start taking out his cities. We want to see some dead bodies, not just words, and we want it to be the right dead bodies. In any instance, take their nukes and shut down their production cababilities. Also tell him bluntly that if we don't get the cooperation we demand, we'll split his worthless piece-of-sh$$ country in half, giving one half to Afghanistan and the other half to India.
Nuke Riyadh. That's the only effective way to end the Saudi money. Destroy the entire ruling heierarchy and all their "facilitators". There will be an immediate and deep financial reaction, but one the United States can survive (not sure about Europe... don't really care). Give Iran 30 days to end uranium enrichment, or we mine their harbors and destroy their ports and infrastructure. Tell the United Nations they have 30 days to take a hike, and stand firm. Shoot the liberals that try to stop us.
Increase the size of the US army by 24 Brigade combat teams (16 active, 6 reserve, 2 guard). Increase the size of the Marines by another full division. Add the needed support units and infrastructure. Quit trying to fight a war on the cheap, and start building up US military forces for the long haul ahead.
We'll be pariahs to all the snotty half-baked socialists/communists, but who give a sh$$ - we are already. Give the nod to Japan and Taiwan to build nuclear weapons, and to Japan to create an effective military, with our blessings. Tell Israel we'll back whatever they do on their borders, short of nukes or genocide, and provide PHYSICAL support to show our earnestness.
It's time to end this half-assed muslim "menace" once and for all. If we don't get tough now, we'll only have to put up with a lot of dead bodies and the need to get tough later - at much higher costs both in money and manpower.
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It's time to pull Perv's string, HARD. Tell him he has 30 days to bring the ISI under control, or we start taking out his cities. We want to see some dead bodies, not just words, and we want it to be the right dead bodies. In any instance, take their nukes and shut down their production cababilities. Also tell him bluntly that if we don't get the cooperation we demand, we'll split his worthless piece-of-sh$$ country in half, giving one half to Afghanistan and the other half to India.
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We aint no way in hell gonna occupy Quetta, say. We attack it from the air with pinpoint strikes on key locations? Weve seen how effective that is in Lebanon, no? No ground presence, means no intell
You are ignoring the million Indian soldiers that would be available for action, with their thousands of tanks and hundreds of aircraft.
Right after the parliament attack, when India massed for war, it actually appointed some retired generals as martial law administrators for the Pak cities it intended to occupy.
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If India did that, its own Muslim population might have a contribution to make. Not necessarily positive. How eager would India really be to go to war with Pakistan in the absence of some Pearl Harbor type event?
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Ahhhh....nothing is ever as simple as it seems!
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Can't nuke territory in a low intensity conflict. You could use the paramiltary option and poison the water supply's but till total war is called the western media and the politicos won't accept it.
Solution: an unexplained wave of political assassinations inside whackpacky land and constant military pressure on the ground.
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Afghanistan would be in a world of hurt if things got hot in Pakland. But we've got plenty of airlift capacity. That's why closing the C-17 line down so that we could build F-22s and a new manned bomber makes so much sense.
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The only problem with separating Baluchistan from the Paks is that the western part of that new country is currrently part of Iran (Sistan va Baluchistan province in the southeast). That means the Baluchis would also have to liberate that part of Iran.
My, my, what a problem. Don't know how we'd solve that, nope, no sir. [drums fingers ]
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How eager would India really be to go to war with Pakistan in the absence of some Pearl Harbor type event?
To finally resolve the Pakistan problem with a knockout blow?
With their strike corps backed by US airpower?
They would be preparing for battle minutes after Bush got off the phone with Manmohan Singh..
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NWFP could go to Afghanistan.
Baluchistan could go to Iran (after regime change)
Sindh and Kashmir could go to India.
India might want the hitorical Sikh regions of the Punjab.. debatable given the islamist infestation.. they'll certainly seize Lahore.
The rest of Punjab could be the rump Pakistan..
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After the shooting stopped, would it be reunited with India?
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Also tell him bluntly that if we don't get the cooperation we demand, we'll split his worthless piece-of-sh$$ country in half, giving one half to Afghanistan and the other half to India.
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Such fantasies. Things rarely work as planned look at Iraq and Afghanistan. What about Iran and N Korea. Pak is not on any serious list for action. Deal with S Arabia first they are the source of funding and wahabbi preaching.
Afghanistan and Balochistan should form a legal team to challenge the illegal occupation of Afghan territories and Balochistan by Pakistan in the International Court of Justice. Once the Durand Line Agreement is declared illegal, it will result in the return of Pakistan-occupied territories back to Afghanistan. Also, Balochistan will be declared a country that was forcibly invaded through use of force by the Pakistanis; and with international assistance, Balochistan can regain its independence. It is the right time to act now because the US and Allied forces in Afghanistan are positioned to facilitate the enforcement of the Courts judgment.
After Pakistan vacates territories belonging to Afghanistan and Balochistan, a new boarder should be demarked amicably to determine Baloch dominated areas to become the new Balochistan, and Pashtun dominated areas to be merged into Afghanistan. And, with the help of the US and Allied forces, the Afghans and the Baloch forces can flush out members of Al-Qaeda and Talebans from their respective countries.
A wise observer once said, Pakistan is a completely superfluous and artificially created spot on the world map that has become a breeding ground for extremism, and trouble that would be best done away with.
http://www.afghanland.com/history/durrand.html
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But, but, FENCES DON'T WORK! Or some other weak BS designed to trip up the politicians and buy some time to come up with some other weak BS like "it will keep desert cactii from being pollinated" . . . .
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Gosh, it's the latest fashion! Soon there'll be articles in Vogue and Paris Match about the latest colour combinations for the palings, and optional shapes for more appealing earth berms.
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Lol, yesterday evening the annoying pretentious anchorman of the liberal-limousine news channel I-télé introduced the reportage about the 700 miles fence bill by saying : "after the Berlin wall... after the israeli wall... there will be a third wall, the USA have announced...".
Fell the love.
No bias at all, hé!
Fences and walls are much in use, IIRC... first of all, there's this gigantic WALL (not a fence) in morocco-occupied western sahara, there's of course that fortified fence between the two kashmirs, there's that soody wall (a modified pipeline) to lessen smuggling from yemen, there's that fence between Thailand and malaysia, there are various fences on the borders of eastern Europe countries to lessen human smuggling and immigration... and even the Holy EU has its own fence, separating the spanish enclaves from the moroccan territory. Probably more, but that's all I can come up with right now.
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a5089 - how about the fence between Gibraltar and Spain that was only removed a couple of weeks ago after being in place for more than 40 years? "Good fences make good neighbors."
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You'll also notice that there is no complaint from the Iraqi government, which doesn't mind the decrease in Saudi terrorists.
Deputy Interior Minister Prince Ahmed said yesterday that the government had released a large number of militants and extremists after they repented. "The releases are continuing," he added. "We are happy to say that the number of people released is more than those remaining in detention," Prince Ahmed told reporters at attending a ceremony in Riyadh to honor retired employees of the Interior Ministry. He also spoke about the Kingdom's efforts to win the release of all Saudi detainees in Guantanamo. "We are closely following the case of Guantanamo prisoners. We hope to close this chapter very soon."
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Where's the revolving door graphic when we so desperately need it?!?
A listed criminal was killed in an 'encounter' between his accomplices and Rapid Action Battalion (Rab) at Alamganj Ghat of Sutrapur in the capital early yesterday. The dead, Bijoy Hossain alias Kalu, 25, was a cohort of infamous criminal 'Dakat' Shahid and accused in a number of cases for murder and other crimes, police and Rab sources said.
Rab arrested Kalu at Nayabazar on Wednesday
and took him to different places in the city to recover hidden firearms following his statement.
After the Rab men took him to Alamganj Ghat area at around 2:00am yesterday, Kalu's accomplices opened fire, forcing them to fire back, Rab said.
Kalu was bullet-hit when he was trying to flee the scene, said a police official.
He was taken to Dhaka Medical College Hospital at 3:15am where doctors declared him dead.
A single barrel gun and three cartridges were seized from the spot.
Kalu was an associate of slain Jubo Dal leader Sagir Ahmed, Kalu's maternal uncle Mobarak Hossain said. He claimed his nephew to be 'innocent' as he came out of jail 15 days ago after serving three years in cases against him. Mobarak said they would file a murder case against the Rab personnel concerned.
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"A single barrel gun and three cartridges were seized from the spot."
Used to be far more creative; 2/10.
I want my shuttergun and goebells type rhetoric back, someone at RAB bought a PC and a ripped powerpoint CD.
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Earlier this week the Queen gave permission to convert a room at Windsor castle into a prayer room.
Guess who's comming to dinner, Queenie.
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Sounds like English whites are starting to get a little of their old chutzpah back. The "Asians" had better really be ready for a fight if they are.
MURDERED schoolboy Kriss Donald pleaded: "I'm only 15. What did I do?" as he was beaten up and dragged into the back of a car by his abductors, a court heard yesterday.
He was forced face down into the back of a silver Mercedes, threatened with a knife and told there was a gun in the car as he was driven off after being snatched from the street "because he was white".
The High Court in Edinburgh yesterday heard that Kriss was attacked and taken from a street in Pollokshields, Glasgow, because one of the men accused of his murder, Imran Shahid, 29, was angry and sought revenge after claiming he had been attacked with a glass bottle outside a nightclub the night before.
It is alleged that Kriss was later set on fire and murdered. In the days following the discovery of his body, friends and family created an impromptu shrine, featuring photographs and football colours. A witness told the court that one of the gang had said: "He took it quietly."
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EU, why don't you wait as they kill all of your 15 year olds, and wait more while they kill all of your 14 year olds, and wait again while they kill all of your 13 year olds ?
The writing's on the wall. READ IT !
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There will be a straw that breaks the camel's back. Muslims who wish to live in western societies need not only to speak out but to take steps to rid the monsters in their midst. They better hurry. I can feel a change in the winds.
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Anti-white racism is the elephant in the room of the West, and beyond (think the ethnic purification in africa, where whitey is being driven out... all the while africans pour into Europe and the USA... and before that, it was north africa).
Still, as the narratives are made by progressists (aka neo-marxists, cultural marxists, gramscists), whitey cannot be a victim, he can only be the oppressor, the racist, the aggressor, the bully, a guilt-inducing set of memes aimed at pursuing the "culture war" (IE the destruction of western civilization), but which also comforts the hatred and racism third worlders may have toward whites and/or westerners.
So, this anti-white racism doesn't exist for the PC ideology, and thus it is tacitly acceptable. In fact, it is even "in", in some circles; hating whitey is hating the devil who has done so much harm ("the white man is the cancer of the world").
There's a terrible resentment against the West/the Christian White Middle-class Male, and islam is its vanguard, and increasingly will be, as "progresssist" and "third worldists" and all will switch to it. http://olimu.com/WebJournalism/Texts/Commentary/Hesperophobia.htm
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Don't lie down and be slaughtered like sheep.
Why do you imagine :
- the progressists do all they can to restrict access to firearms, which are the greatest equalizers in term of combat ("God created small men, God created big men, but Samuel Colt made them all equal")?
- the devirilization (Kim Du Toit would say pussification or feminization) of western men, starting with boys, is a long time goal of progressists?
This is so true in tranzi EU; who do you think fill the boxing, kickboxing, muy thai,... clubs, while the others do judo? Who get their weapons straight from albania or kosovo, while the others can at best get a hunting shotgun (with hunting being a big no-no, of course)? In Europe, who own the street, really? Who has to step down from the sidewalk when he crosses a group of the "others"? Who does razzias (mugging, rapes, looting,...), and who terrorizes who (by destroying public property, marking his environment with tags, setting cars, trasbins, on fire,....)?
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The people doing this should take a look at post-colonial Africa. This has been going on for a long time. The famous quote in the 60's from an African "freedom fighter" that "Uhuru means we take the white man's house, his women, his land" sums up the objective. Rhodesia Zimbabwe sums up the result. Americans, at least, need to stand up and say that they are the pinnacle of human civilization and have nothing for which to apologize or about which to be embarrassed. And, if pushed, we need to kill everyone who comes against us. We can live without them. The bastards will starve without us.
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My God, if this doesn't wake these fools up, what will ? Once this became known, every Muzzie in the isles should have been rounded up, placed on barges and towed to mid-atlantic. This kind of thing , along with van Gogh, has to be a revelation even to the do-gooders. The line has been drawn. Act or die.
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America is a big country that is armed and dangerous. France is what, the size of CA? It's not possible to outlaw guns here - as our gangs have shown quite clearly. While it's not (as) true on the coasts - most people between the coasts not only own guns, they own many guns. I went to a gun show myself recently. The first one I have ever been to. I wish I had a picture of the granny in the pink shirt walking out with a shotgun over her shoulder, tow heads in tow. Stood next to an Amish or Mennonite guy (can't tell the difference) complete with straw hat and homespun shirt. Saw a guy buy an automatic weapon and thought...yeesh...that's not good. But hey, we sell these people bleach and draino.
If you outlawed guns, they know how to make their own. And you don't need gunpowder to make a projectile.
I'm just saying. Humans are capable of horror. They keep pushing, they really have no clue what they are in for if they don't stop.
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well, consider the source :-) The thing was nasty looking - and could do some serious damage. But then I have trouble with the difference between a rifle and shotgun.
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I own several - .20 ga shotgun & a .30-30 (for hunting), and a .38 spcl revolver for home def. Plus I have a PSE compound bow for those more discriminating encounters with pesky white tails. Though my PSE can sling a carbon shaft/broadhead @ approx 290 fps - that could be interesting on a burglar. I shoot them all when I can.
anon, some friendly advice. Pls take your weapon to a range or some such and try it out. Muscle memory and familiarity is what counts when the unexpected rears its ugly head @ 2a.m.
Four pistols. Three rifles. Roughly 7,000 rounds of ammunition on hand.
"We own one. Never shot it though. Come on into my house at 2am and I'll try it out."
Just my opinion, but "never shot it" is asking for trouble. If you want to have a reasonable chance that the thing is going to make a difference at 2AM, it'd be a good idea to learn how to use it properly-- and safely.
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exJAG here, reporting for the Rantburg weapons check:
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No guns. Three fighting staffs, three sets of practice nunchucks, three students of the martial arts with five black belts between them... and a piano. It'll do in a pinch. ;-)
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And this has nothing to do with the WOT, and doesnt belong in this section.
You could not be more wrong, liberalhawk. This has everything to do with the War on Terrorism. Your blinkering borders on the profound. Notice how the moderators have not seen fit to relocate this thread?
Young Kriss Donald's heinous murder is a direct offshot of Islamic terrorism. Watch the "Obsession" video if you have not already viewed it. Listen closely as Abu Hamza al-Masri describes a kuffar walking down the street as one that you "can take to market like a cow and sell there or kill if you cannot sell him".
The acts of Imran Shahid are automatically exonerated, not just by Koranic doctrine, but by so many of the Muslim clerics who preach on a daily basis. The same justification that Shahid used to murder Kriss Donald in cold blood drove 19 Saudis to kill nearly 3,000 people on an Autumn morning and motivated 32 attackers to kill 344 people, over half of which were young children, in the sleepy town of Beslan.
This is all one in the same. Kriss Donald's brutal slaying will not be the straw that breaks the camels proverbial back. Would that it were and we had no more atrocities to endure. Donald's heinous murder is just one more grain running through the hourglass that clocks Islam's passage from this world. That burdensome straw will more likely be a terrorist nuclear attack on a major Western metropolis.
The tipping point is coming. Islam's mere existence guarantees it. Muslims can no more restrain themselves from commiting these atrocities than they make a river flow uphill. The 80-90% of Muslims, a vast majority of which sit idly by, who are not radicalized nonetheless contribute the zakat that finances so many of these atrocities. The 10-20% who are fanatics represent the population of the entire United States and have zero compunctions about killing as many of us as possible. Shahid only managed to take a single victim with him before being apprehended, you can be sure he wishes that he could have taken many more.
The tipping point is coming. It will arrive as surely as the sun rises in the East. 9-11 was the tipping point for me. For others, it will likely be an atrocity of unimaginable proportions. When that day comes, the world will finally conclude that living with Muslims is far more trouble than living without them. This will be a decision thrust upon us by Islam itself. Just as Shahid's actions represent Islam itself.
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Nimble. Right. Wondered if somebody'd get it.
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I "own" two or three guns - a Browning 16gauge automatic, a single-shot .22, and a M-1 Garand. They're all down at my brother's house in Texas. Firearms are too dangerous in a tightly-packed city, so I've compromised. I have my now-infamous axehandle, and a nice 220lb pull homemade crossbow and 60 darts. Anyone coming into my house at 2AM gets the axehandle right across their skull with all the power my 210 pounds can project. If they get up, I use the crossbow at close range, right into the heart. If they get up from THAT, I bow, humbly!
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Hey OP...another one I have is a Cold Steel spetznaz shovel.... The edge sharpens right up with a file. I pretty much keep it in my car in the winter.... It has dug out friends' and aquaintences' cars, and protected me on more than one occasion. Weighty enough to lop off limbs....more like an axe, really.
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Young Kriss Donald's heinous murder is a direct offshot of Islamic terrorism.
Have to disagree Zenster. Islamic terrorism is just an alternate version of murders like this.
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Oddly enough, I would say that this sort of thing is not the fault of the vicious criminals. It is in the nature of vicious criminals to do such things, all around the world.
It is the fault of the British government, and British society, that they *let* such criminals do such things and get away with it.
And as proof that it is the fault of the government and society, I will give you the answer to this dilemma: vigilantism.
When the government doesn't do its job, vigilantism is the normal response, unless the people themselves are so weak willed and pathetic that they will cringe before their own destruction.
But if a single anonymous Englishman stands up and declares the creation of a vigilante organization to stop such terrorism, someone that the people can rally around, then the following will happen:
1) The government will panic and try to stop the vigilantes. They will fail because they are ineffectual.
2) The vigilantes will start by trying to prevent crime; but they will quickly evolve into hunting down and punishing the criminals, perhaps by lynching or "riding them out on a rail", metaphorically speaking. If further allowed to spread, the vigilante organization will begin to attack the non-violent people from whom the criminals arise, their race or creed.
3) Rarely, if allowed past even this end, the vigilante movement will become a violent political movement, and seek to replace the government. From that point forward, they either become a legitimate party, or they become a mafia.
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.22 Beretta, .38 S&W, SKS-56 with 5 filled 30 round mags and a para type plastic folding stock.
Ammo? Damfino, many thousands and no real need to count, I have a full reloading set for every caliber from .32 pistol through .30-06, with the bullet molds and powder/primers for the same, much of my closet is filled with reloading equipment and tools.
No problems here.
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"Watch the "Obsession" video if you have not already viewed it. Listen closely as Abu Hamza al-Masri describes a kuffar walking down the street as one that you "can take to market like a cow and sell there or kill if you cannot sell him"."
Is there any evidence yet that the murderer actually saw or read those items? Race riots often involve tit for tat violence. Would you call it part of the WOT whenever a muslim is killed by a street thug out for vengeance?
By the way, he was killed, apparently, for being white. In case you have forgotten, there are muslims who are white. And of course billions who are not muslim and not white. This isnt even about religious vengeance anyway. Its racial vengeance.
Now im sure there are some who see the WOT not only as part of a broad clash civs between the west and Islam, and a war on liberalism, but see it as part of a war of the "white race" against everything and everyone else. I would be surprised it Fred wants this site to be home for that, but if he does, its his business.
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Have to disagree Zenster. Islamic terrorism is just an alternate version of murders like this.
I think you seriously underestimate the ambitions of Islam and how they intend to achieve them. Murder writ large is Islam's motto. However tragic, small-time killings like that of Kriss Donald are merely the sign of an ill-disciplined jihadi.
Thats grammatically incorrect. Should be "The ambitions of Islam and how IT".but of course that makes no sense. So it should really be " the ambitions of muslims and how they" except of course millions of muslims are on the other side, and some are neutral. Most are innocent. And some, like this thug in Glasgow, are GUILTY of crimes unconnected to jihad.
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"ambitions of Islam and how they" Thats grammatically incorrect. Should be "The ambitions of Islam and how IT".
Alternate and acceptable usages, liberalhawk. American style equates a group noun with the singularity of the group entity "it". British style looks to the multiplicity within the group and therefore equates to "they". Americans read the British usage as pretentious, the Brits read American usage as ignorant. Americans who work internationally tend to adopt the British style because it's less costly to overcome a reputation for pretentiousness than of ignorance... and whadda we care so long as they buy our stuff without fussing about our prices. ;-)
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Personally, I've been under the impression that it has been for some time now a criminal act to be white and male in the United States. I guarantee you that the vast majority of the people I studied with for my doctorate in history believed that.
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Would you call it part of the WOT whenever a muslim is killed by a street thug out for vengeance?
No, I'd call it a "by-product".
Now im sure there are some who see the WOT not only as part of a broad clash civs between the west and Islam, and a war on liberalism, but see it as part of a war of the "white race" against everything and everyone else. I would be surprised it Fred wants this site to be home for that, but if he does, its his business.
Nice cheap shot playing the race card. This in no way distracts from the over 90% to 95%probability that Imran Shahid had jihad and hate for the Western world on his mind when he set fire to Kriss Donald.
I'll also note the overwhelming lack of support that your point of view is receiving in this thread.
PS: If you are going to be so puerile pedantic as to correct people's grammer then start with your own atrocious spelling and punctuation, would you please at least demonstrate a shred of courtesy by presenting quotes made by someone else in italics, like the majority of long-time posters here do?
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Is there any evidence yet that the murderer actually saw or read those items?
Because God knows that's the only way anyone could ever be exposed to such ideas. Simply unpossible that someone could have been raised in a culture where such things were part of, oh, I dunno, Friday prayers. Or dinner table conversation. Or their Holy Book.
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"220lb pull homemade crossbow"
RIGHT OP.
I come from not a million miles away from where they abducted tortured and eventualy killed this poor fucker!
After Dunblane guns are kinda scarce in private hands but you would be amazed what you can do with a few dogs and a knowlege of weapons and the STRICT following of the law.
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I think you seriously underestimate the ambitions of Islam and how they intend to achieve them. Murder writ large is Islam's motto. However tragic, small-time killings like that of Kriss Donald are merely the sign of an ill-disciplined jihadi.
Yes & no. Their best strategy for world conquest is emigration + extortion of privileges---such as we see every day in Europe (and USA). Terrorism actually harm this process of "peaceful conquest". However, they just cannot refrain from killing---torturing/desecrating bodies whenever they get a chance.
Example. If Paleos could refrain from terrorism past Oslo accords, they'd have their own state now + be well on the way of turning Israel into Arab majority state.
Look at it this way. Arabs, and to a lesser extent all Muslims, are way deficient in love, compassion, etc... they compensate through blood lust/sadism.
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"Would you call it part of the WOT whenever a muslim is killed by a street thug out for vengeance? "
So many examples of this.... perhaps you could point to a few of them establishing a pattern? How about a leadership figure (whether political or religious) goading them to violence? Is that figure free from arrest?
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I can't prove it, but I'm thinking (takin' all bets) Imran Shahid has been celebrated (celebrated !!!) in name and verse during this "most holy month" of ramadam by his co-religionists. Assuming his guilt (and I do) his brethern don't pray for the redemption of his soul. On the contrary: His co-religionists celebrate and party in the belief his soul goes immediately to allah on his death to be serviced by a host of virgins for all eternity and they take comfort in same. Read the whole article. Read the koran. Read the ahadith. Any half wit muzzie imam could structure a dozen reasons (arguments) to justify, and condone the slaughter of Kriss (the infidel) by a Shahid.
Shahid...shahid....why have I heard that word / name before? Is that like the arabic for shaheed as in martyr?
Kriss was killed in part bcause he was white. Recall that Shahid was dissed by a whitey the night before.But don't anybody think he wasn't killed because he was infidel. He was.
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Since we're still talking about guns, one of the most fun (besides my friend's 50 Cal. BAR - Browning Automatic Rifle), was his Winchester Model 1892 that fired 45 Cal long Colt ammunition. I know it's an impractical weapon in terms of defense/offense but this thing was sighted in so perfectly, I could hit just about whatever I pointed the thing at, out to many yards. Does somebody have any background on this piece?
For compactness, I've always fancied an over-under with rifle above and shotgun below. Are there any of these being made that are of quality at all? Especially with semi-auto mode for either barrel?
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Zenster, a good resource for all things gun is Kim du Toit's website. I don't see the Winchester 1892 there, though he's got other models.
I just bought a Marlin 1894C lever-action carbine in .357 Magnum/.38 Spcl. that promises to be a lot of fun to shoot. We'll find out tomorrow at the range...
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an auto weapon at a gunshow, huh?
Yep! I was at the "Cheaper Than Dirt" military surplus and gun store today, the one in Fort Worth. After filling out the proper paperwork and waiting for the background check, you could buy automatic weapons and suppressed (silenced) weapons...no sweat! No felony record or domestic violence convictions and you're in. Isn't Texas great!
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As someone who believes that the majority of Muslims could integrate peacefully if we could just stop the Saudi money funding radical mosques, I find it a bit sad, Liberalhawk, that you are reduced to pretending that this is not WOT related. IMHO, it's people like you who are responsible for most of the bloodshed I've seen in my lifetime. Those who proclaim themselves liberals seem to look away from the most God-awful genocides and focus on the minor infractions by our own society. The problem is not that there isn't some benefit to reminding everyone that we don't want to stoop to their level, but what it does do is to make it harder for those in power to take the necessary steps to find the political will to take the hard measures necessary to keep things from spiralling out of control.
We aren't immune to this violence. From the gang rapes in Australia, France and Britian of girls not wearing hijabs and the growing "unrest" of "economically disadvantaged youths", your unwillingness to acknowledge the grave nature of the danger we are beginning to encounter makes you a part of the problem instead of the solution.
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Where hurt sensibilities - imagined or real, or invented to give permission to rage - demand violence and death rather than introspection or constraint or thought, we are faced with pathelogical psychosis.
Reason and arguement do not factor.
This is just the start. The next "cartoon crisis" will be Christmas. This Christmas is the next insult and proof of our "rascism" and "islamophobia". To prove we are not, I believe we will have calls to not speak of Christmas or perhaps demanded to cancel.
Perhaps no. But the tide is rising and a tipping point is coming before spring. All hell busts loose - but where and how does it start?
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Some stupid thing like this will supply the spark. A school like Beslan. A string of rapes. Another random killing.
Call me pessimistic, but even another Beslan may not be enough to mobilize people sufficiently. The specific people in question are our politicians. They will have to be threatened with expulsion from office for inaction before they take this seriously. Too many of them, here and abroad, live in sheltered enclaves and trundle about in chauffered limousines to have any firsthand awareness regarding the reduced quality of life that Islam's creeping influence has had on people.
Sadly, only a terrorist nuclear attack would snap these vote-counting fools awake. Only then would the tipping point be made crystal clear. I, for one, am not satisfied to wait about for such an incredible atrocity. Support must be choked off for those who do not take Islam's threat seriously. That is one of many reasons I cannot vote for the democratic party at any time in the near future or, quite possibly, ever again.
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gut TW, just gut. And a convergence. A whirlpool forming.
More editorials in my local newspapers are speaking out, demanding answers from silent muslims. Slowly, step by step, MSM will half to tackle the obvious, if only for the sound-bite.
As Darfur continues to twing the heartstrings of the LLL, the reasons for failure can no longer be dismissed. The Islamists have spoken strongly on their vision and war on those who might stand in their way.
As "Palestinians" continue to demand their jizya from the west and Israel to fund their genocidal doctrine and demand their overt enemies money pay to kill themselves -or subjicate - more local newspapers are starting to print these demands and label them ludicrous.
It's this new speaking out of local editorials and hearing more of the islamist crap that makes me believe, that now we shall talk about it - not just at Rantburg but on the street - and take back freedoms we hold. We hold dear.
If the Pope talks about it, we all can. That we will, and must is the convergence.
The gut says that Christmas will be very, very rocky.
[from the Telegraph]....Scotland Yard said yesterday that Pc Omar-Basha [yes he is a muslim], a member of the Metropolitan Police armed Diplomatic Protection Group (DPG), had been allowed to absent himself from armed patrols outside the Israeli embassy after expressing concerns about the effect it might have on the safety of his relatives in Lebanon during Israel's military campaign in August....
[turns out the officer's in law is non other than all star Islmo Omar Bakri Mohammed who also presided at the wedding]
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Go see Instapundit. He links to USS Neverdock who links to the Torygraph which reports this fine young copper had his marriage performed by ... Omar Bakri. And so on.
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If you Americans think you have a problem with immigration i think us in the UK are suffering more at least you guys got plenty of land to avoid the muzzies.
Funny how some in America still think we are all posh and have butlers which i noticed on my last visit to the Florida!
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of course this highly moral Muzzie would have no issue if he were to be re-assigned by the cowardly Metropolitan PD to the Sudanese Embassy, where Christians are being decimated, right?
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He is not fired. He is charged with treason and summarily executed! This is the value of getting these f**king bastards into military service. They will quickly betray themselves as traitors and can be dealt with. Of course, they will be segregated and kept under watch 24/7 until they expose themselves. Probably 2 weeks or less.
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Can Christian members of the Metropolitan Police refuse to patrol medical offices where abortions are performed? I'm just wondering how widely accepted this "moral objection" excuse is accepted by London cops.
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CC7867 - I lived in England for 18 months during my military service, and know how small the entire UK is - about the same land area as California. I also know that most Brits live fairly well, but not extravagantly. My wife and I made lots of friends over there. I also know about the immigrants - there were three tandoori restaurants, two oriental restaurants, and a Greek restaurant in our small village of 6000. Your first problem is that the government has taken your ability to defend yourselves away from you. Your second problem is that your government doesn't accept the fact that you NEED to defend yourselves. Britain needs a Bill of Rights, including a 2nd Amendment!
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No, Britian needs citizens who stuff their closets with "Illegal" weapons quietly and never talk openly about it, then use them as needed and return them to the secret place when the police show up.
Continue until the police covertly look the other way, then lobby for a ballot on "Weapon Freedom"
The first such ballot will fail miserably, take notes as to who voted how, clean house and re-vote.
Continue as needed.One ballot will pass, then take serious note just who files lawsuits and tries to have the measure repealed, continue as before, vote them away and continue.
I'm sorry Britian, it's a never ending battle, there are so many elected idiots .
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This is a good time to remember poor Omar Bakri pleading with UK authorities to evacuate him from Beirut when the bombs started falling.
Eff almighty. Somebody please tell me that Omar's pleas were met with the sound of protracted hysterical laughter. How sad that the Israelis didn't somehow manage to cap this worthless terrorist turd during the last round of festivities.
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Aw, c'mon. They're police, tasked with the very un-police-like task of suppressing an insurgency. I bet they'd love to use grapeshot just as much as we would.
Treating the Islamic Colonisation of France as a police matter is a total failure. Therefore will treating Islamic Terrorism as a police matter be a success?
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The French should adopt the San Diego police approach: shoot first, shoot often, and shoot to kill. Cuts down on lawsuits, bad publicity, and recidivism.
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Haha. Trying is the key word.
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And if they fight back, the spin is: it will escalate.
#16
We bailed the French out in WWI and WWII. We protected them against the Soviet Empire. And for our effort they spat on us and continue to do so. As far as I'm concerned THE FRENCH ARE ON THERE OWN THIS TIME.
#1
It's like these "extremists" are writing Kick ME all over themselves with a black sharpie and we are just laughing and saying - heh! You are such a card.
I think we are all beginning to realize how nasty and long this war will become - not that we didn't grasp it before, it was just that we hoped that we could knock out some of the leadership and move on. But - thanks to a lack of leadership in western nations, this one is going to get very bloody and last a very long time.
#2
The country's once-flourishing Jewish community was decimated during World War Two.
I do not think that word means what you think it means. It was a LOT worse
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Go to news.google.com to see all the news from all news sources. type: Prague Jews in the headline to get all the articles written, worldwide, on this topic. I get 19, total. Paris Hilton gets more coverage.
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Why do so many extremists heap all the worlds ills on Jews? The most backward, f*cked up people on the planet all seem to have this common denominator, they believe that jews are the root cause of all our problems. They believe that jews somehow control the entire world, manipulating all of us to do their dirty work for them. Wow!
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Bigjim, it is because they are absolute losers and have a whale-sized inferiority complex. But the inferiority complex is manifested in a stated belief that they are, in fact supreme. That their supremacy is not resulting in their being at the top of the heap instead of the bottom means that someone must be actively inhibiting their ascendency. Those bad guys, those hamstringers, well, they would be the Jooooooooos. This is what we see all over the muzzie world. It is widespread in post-colonial 3rd world countries as well.
The Portuguese authorities deported last Sunday an Algerian suspected to be involved in the 9/11 attacks. He was imprisoned in Lisbon for fraud. The lawyer of the deported accused the Portuguese services of foreigners and borders of keeping him in custody in order to hand him over to the Algerian authorities.
Sofiane Elaib was arrested on April 02nd 2003 when he was about to buy a mobile phone with a fake credit card he was sentenced to two years and a half of prison. He was also suspected of terrorist activity and making contacts with the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks in the USA. The APS, Algerie Presse Service, reported yesterday.
Envoys from the U.S. FBI visited Elaib at prison and had an informal talk with him. He was taken to the airport at dawn two days before the end of the prison sentence. He was deported without his lawyers knowing whereas the judge of the court in Portugal decided to suspend the deportation. The argument was that he was likely to be sued and imprisoned in Algeria, the source reported from the defence of the deported man.
The Portuguese services of foreigners and borders said in a communiqué they have executed an administrative decision to deport and transport the national to his country of origin where he was handed over to the authorities, as part of observing the laws and an agreement with the judicial authorities.
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LOS ANGELES (AP) - During two tours of duty in Iraq, Navy corpsman Melson J. Bacos experienced fire fights with insurgents, soldiers dying in his arms, thoughts of whether he'd live another day, he said. Now he has another unnerving assignment. On Friday, the 21-year-old is scheduled to give testimony that military prosecutors hope will help them convict seven Marines accused of kidnapping and murdering an Iraqi man in the town of Hamdania.
Bacos, a medic who patrolled with the Marines, will have similar charges dropped in exchange for testimony during his court-martial, his attorney, Jeremiah Sullivan III, told The Associated Press.
The military has said Bacos was with the Marines in April when 52-year-old Hashim Ibrahim Awad was kidnapped and murdered. Some of the troops are accused of stealing an AK-47 assault rifle and a shovel and placing them in a hole with Awad's body, apparently to make it appear he was an insurgent planting a bomb. Bacos was accused of firing the AK-47 in the air to expend some shell casings as part of the cover-up. He was charged with murder and kidnapping under a legal principle that anyone who didn't try to stop the crime is as culpable as the triggerman.
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Hamdania 'incident'
Navy Hospital Corpsman 3rd Class Melson J. Bacos, suposedly will testify for the prosecutors
but what about the other men..
Navy Hospital Corpsman: Corporal Marshall L. Magincalda
Corporal Trent D. Thomas,
Lance Corporal Robert B. Pennington,
Sergeant Lawrence G. Hutchins III,
Lance Corporal Jerry E. Shumate Jr.,
Private First Class John J. Jodka,
Lance Corporal Tyler A. Jackson.
Six Marines + One Navy Corpsman VS. One Navy Corpsman?
Guwahati: Army helicopters on Friday dropped commandos in upper Assam's Dibru Saikhowa National Park to flush out militants of the 28th battalion of the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA).
Army sources told The Hindu that "special forces have been deployed in the Dibru-Saikhowa National Park to flush out ULFA militants holed up there. These special forces were airlifted from an Army base in Jorhat."
The source said the flush out operations have been launched by troops of 2 Mountain Division inside the Park and also in Arunachal Pradesh. Troops have thrown a cordon around the 765 sq km park area, which has a 340 sq km core area.
He said ULFA militants temporarily moved out from the national park areas in 2005. In 2006, they re-entered the park taking advantage of the unilateral truce declared by the Centre.
The Army called off its operations inside the park last year following pressures by the ULFA-appointed People's Consultative Group (PCG) on the Centre. The ULFA had nominated it at the peak of the operations in the park.
The PCG and the ULFA had alleged that the Army, during its operation, killed 12 cadres of the outfit and threw their bodies into a river. The charge was denied by the Army.
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I think most of the Assamese are more likely to be Hidus or anamists, rather than muslims. This is just another marxist front organization, of which there are many in India.
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SRINAGAR, India - Ten people, including seven policemen and two terrorists militants, were killed in a 26-hour gunbattle as security forces fought terrorists gunmen holed up in a hotel in the heart of Kashmirs main city, police said on Thursday.
At least 12 people were wounded, eight of them police officers, in the stand-off which began when a group of terrorists militants lobbed a grenade at a security camp and then entered a hotel opposite and began firing at the base on Wednesday. The operation is over now (but) we are still searching the area for abandoned ammunition and explosives, Gopal Sharma, director-general of police for Jammu and Kashmir state, told reporters near the site of the encounter.
Police dressed in military fatigues swarmed the area around the hotel, cordoned off since Wednesday morning.
The terrorist militant group Al-Mansurian said a three-member terrorist suicide squad attacked the camp, which lies close to a congested residential area of Srinagar. The group said they had killed 11 policemen and that one of their terrorist members had escaped. One of our terrorists mujahid has returned to base and two terrorists were martyred in the attack. Our terrorists mujahideen killed at least 11 policemen, a caller, identifying himself as an Al-Mansurian spokesman, told newspaper offices in Srinagar.
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Swiss authorities have informed the United Nations of a "possible terrorist attack" against its European headquarters in Geneva, its biggest premises outside of New York, the world body said in a letter to staff on Thursday.
The attack could take place between October 5 and October 10., the letter said, without giving further details.
The letter encouraged staff to "increase the level of alertness and to take special protection measures."
Security and checks were stepped up at the sprawling Palais des Nations, the original League of Nations, but work and meetings continued, U.N. spokeswoman Elena Ponomareva said.
The letter, a copy of which was obtained by Reuters, went further than a U.N. statement which referred merely to a "possible threat" against the organization.
"...the Swiss authorities have contacted us to inform of a possible terrorist attack against United Nations' premises in Geneva," said the letter.
"This attack would take place between 5th of October and the 10th of October: No information has been provided about the possible authors or the means to be used and no specific target has been mentioned," it said.
Eric Grandjean, a Geneva police spokesman, said that police were helping with patrols and checks at U.N. entrances at the request of U.N. security. He declined to give the numbers deployed, but said they were "adequate preventive measures."
It is the second time in a year that the U.N. in Geneva has been put on high alert.
The previous occasion coincided with a visit by U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan almost a year ago when a "credible security threat" was received via an unidentified U.N. member country.
Some 1,600 people work in the 1930s building, where the U.N. Human Rights Council is currently holding a three-week session to examine alleged violations -- including counter-terrorism measures taken in the wake of the Sept 11, 2001, attacks.
Annan had been due to be in Geneva this week but did not come as a planned summit in the Swiss city between the leaders of Gabon and Equatorial Guinea was canceled.
BAGHDAD Multi-National Division Baghdad Soldiers from 4th Brigade Combat Team, and 1st BCT, 4th Infantry Division, confiscated illegal munitions in Baghdad Tuesday.
While conducting combat operations at approximately 8 a.m. in Baghdads Al Bayaa district, Soldiers from 4th BCT seized a rocket-propelled grenade launcher, two RPG rounds, two 57mm rockets, 14 60mm rounds, 10 81mm rounds, a PKC assault rifle, a pistol, a mortar tube base, a full PKC bandoleer, and nine mortar fuses. The Soldiers also detained three suspected terrorists.
In a separate incident, Soldiers from 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th Inf. Div., detained two suspects after finding illegal weapons inside their vehicle. The Soldiers seized three AK-47s, seven homemade grenades and ammunition for a PKC assault rifle.
The five suspects from the two incidents were detained for questioning and Explosive Ordnance Disposal teams destroyed the munitions.
In a separate incident Monday evening, Soldiers from 1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st BCT, thwarted a possible kidnapping north of Baghdad after spotting a vehicle hidden in bushes with a male and female passenger. The Soldiers were informed by the female passenger that she had been kidnapped and the other passenger had plans to rape and kill her. More a criminal/ex-boyfriend than a terrorist? The male passenger was detained and the female was returned to her home. The Soldiers also found an AK-47 rifle with seven magazines, a pistol with three magazines and body armor in the vehicle.
As of Monday, Iraqi Security Forces and MND-B Soldiers have cleared approximately 95,000 buildings, 80 mosques and 60 muhallas, Just how does one "clear" a mullah? detained more than 125 terrorist suspects, seized more than 1,700 weapons, registered more than 750 weapons and found 35 weapons caches in support of operation together forward. The combined forces have also removed more than 196,921 cubic meters of trash from the streets of Baghdad.
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Just how does one "clear" a mullah?
disassemble, remove or destroy the firing pin
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Aren't muhullahs those little neighborhood prayer rooms?
Separately, why would a kidnap-for-rape criminal need body armor?
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - The Iraq war could be heading to its decisive moment: a battle for the capital of Baghdad that already has turned dramatically bloodier for American soldiers and carries enormous stakes for the country's future.
At least 13 American soldiers have been killed around Baghdad since Monday - the highest four-day U.S. toll in the capital since the 2003 invasion.
That count is likely to rise higher as the U.S.-led forces step up their campaign to root out the extremist militias, death squads and terrorist cells that have turned the city into a collection of armed, ethnically divided camps.
No longer a limited security problem while the main war was being fought out west in Anbar province, the battle of Baghdad is turning out to be ''a critical point in the Iraq war,'' says former Pentagon analyst Anthony Cordesman.
''Securing Baghdad ... won't win. But losing Baghdad will lose,'' Cordesman says. ''If they lose, Iraq is likely to slip into a major civil war.''
Much of Baghdad is yet to be targeted in the joint U.S.-Iraqi pacification operation. Top commanders - signaling the toughest fight is yet to come - say they need six more Iraqi battalions, or 3,000 soldiers, to join the 30,000 Iraqi security forces and 15,000 Americans already in the city.
U.S. commanders have defined victory as reducing violence in the capital to the point where Iraqi civilian police could handle security. With order restored in the capital, the Iraqi government then could focus on providing security and basic services to the rest of the country - thus creating conditions for U.S. troops to leave.
Baghdad is ''the center of gravity for the country. Everybody knows that,'' Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. general in Iraq, told The Associated Press in a recent interview. ''The bad guys know it, we know it, the Iraqis know it. So we have to help the Iraqis secure their capital if they're going to go forward.''
U.S. officials won't say how they define defeat - insisting there is no choice but to win. Senior military officials concede it will take weeks if not months to turn Baghdad around. But they insist no effort can be spared.
In one sign of how crucial Baghdad is to the success of the U.S. war effort, top commanders have moved soldiers from western Iraq's Anbar province to Baghdad for the offensive. Lt. Gen. Peter Chiarelli, the No. 2 general in Iraq, called the reshuffling necessary to ''winning the main effort'' in Baghdad.
The battle started relatively easily: U.S. soldiers encountered little resistance when the new offensive began Aug. 7 in the mostly Sunni Muslim areas of western Baghdad.
But that changed as operations shifted into Shiite strongholds near the Sadr City neighborhood - stronghold of the Mahdi Army of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Now, as the Shiites and Sunnis struggle for power, Shiite snipers fire routinely at U.S. patrols, even as Sunni insurgents plant roadside bombs west of the capital.
To achieve success, the Americans and their Iraqi partners are trying to weaken both the Sunni and Shiite extremist groups equally.
''I can't drive (the Mahdi Army) into the dirt and let (al-Qaida) basically conduct suicide attacks at will,'' one senior coalition intelligence officer said on condition of anonymity for security reasons. ''I've got to take both elements out of the equation.''
The military tries to encourage the militias' political patrons to reach a political deal, and offers benefits.
Once U.S. troops secure a neighborhood, reconstruction teams move in to map plans to restore electricity, water and sewage. Those teams have 90 days to make proposals, which are submitted to the Iraqi government for funding.
The operation has achieved some success: In July, violent deaths among civilians in Baghdad soared to an unprecedented high of 3,590, according to the United Nations. In August the figure dropped to 3,009, the U.N. said.
But the battle has proved politically tricky.
Many of the estimated 23 Shiite and Sunni militias operating in the capital have ties to the very politicians whom the U.S. encouraged to join the new government of national unity. Al-Sadr, for example, is a pillar of support for Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
And gunmen considered by the Americans to be a threat to Iraq's survival are often viewed by their own communities as their best source of protection.
''There's a lot of politics going on now, and we're a police force, not an army,'' said Sgt. Nicholas Sowinski, 25, of Tempe, Ariz., assigned to the 4th Squadron, 14th Cavalry Regiment. ''It limits our options.''
Hurriyah, a once-quiet mixed neighborhood of north Baghdad, serves as an example of the dilemma.
Just over a year ago, al-Sadr's militiamen quietly slipped in and set up an office in the main outdoor market. They told Shiites they would protect them from a Sunni militia called Omar's Army.
By early October, Shiite militiamen were roaming the streets of Hurriyah, kidnapping, killing and intimidating Sunnis. Handbills circulating last month warned that 10 Sunnis would die for every Shiite killed.
Late last month, Shiite gunmen killed four Sunnis outside a mosque in Hurriyah. The next day, a Sunni extremist group detonated a bomb in Sadr City, killing 37.
Many U.S. soldiers say their biggest problem is that local people are not helping to identify militiamen.
''Unless you catch (them) in the act, you're not going to catch them at all,'' said Staff Sgt. Justin Nelson, 26, of Stockton, Calif. ''The main thing that you think about when you take someone in is: How's the public going to take this?''
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At least 13 American soldiers have been killed around Baghdad since Monday - the highest four-day U.S. toll in the capital since the 2003 invasion.
Jeebus, has the AP now become baseball statisticians? Good grief, stop with the body count and let's focus on WINNING (not ending) this thing!
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Sounds like more pre-election spin to me. The press will report an ever-darkening horizon right up to the election. If the Dems win, then the clouds will part; the sun will shine: and Ahmed will sleep safe in his own little bed again.
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"Sounds like more pre-election spin to me. The press will report an ever-darkening horizon right up to the election. If the Dems win, then the clouds will part; the sun will shine: and Ahmed will sleep safe in his own little bed again."
You really believe this? Go read Iraq the Model, whos been consistently pro-US. Baghdad is majorly f**cked up right now. Now maybe its cause this isnt winnable like the left says. Maybe its cause we dont have enough troops like McCain and the weekly standard say. Maybe its cause we our Rule of engagement arent tough enough, like Verlaine in Iraq says, IIRC. Or maybe its cause Islam is screwed up, like some here say. Or maybe its cause of Iran. But thinking that its not f**ked up, and that the notion that it is is just MSM spin, now thats just living in cloud cuckoo land. I pray no one in the admin thinks that. Im sure Condi doesnt, at least.
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I think many of you are missing the fact that pre-election spin can be generated by our enemies spiking up their number of attacks. It doesn't require any nefarious plans on the part of the AP or MSM.
The enemy has shown they are very media savy and aware of our election cycles and if the US military didn't predict and uptick in violence they aren't doing their jobs.
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liberalhawk just wants to relive those good ol' sixties days. Ah the good old days when all of those men, women and children were over run by the Khmer Rouge. The piles of skulls stacked in the fields. The desperate boat people giving it their all to survive.
WASHINGTON Drawing on its successes and failures in Iraq, the military is completing a new counterinsurgency strategy that emphasizes working with and protecting civilians, U.S. defence officials said Thursday.
The U.S. Army and U.S. Marine Corps have jointly written a new field manual that is to provide commanders with a framework for thinking about counterinsurgency missions explaining what they are, what to expect and how to operate in such environments. The new doctrine is scheduled to be completed this month and released next month, senior defence officials said Thursday.
A draft of the manual stresses the importance of work that troops are already trying to do, with mixed success, in Iraq. It emphasizes the importance of nonmilitary solutions, such as promoting economic development and making sure basic services are restored, as a way to deprive insurgents of support. It also urges interaction with the population and standing up local security forces as quickly as possible.
What we are learning is that counterinsurgency requires a comprehensive approach, said Lieutenant-Colonel Lance McDaniel, the main Marine Corps writer of the manual. Protecting the people may be the ultimate priority, but you have to do other things, too.
Criticism of the Iraq campaign has included that it has cost thousands of civilians their lives and alienated many Iraqis by using heavy-handed tactics against the population, as well as failing to sufficiently get water, electricity and other basic services back in order. We want our soldiers and Marines to be savvy in going into these complicated environments ... see what the problem is first ... recognize that it might not always be a kinetic (combat) approach that's most valuable, Col. McDaniel said, adding that many of the ideas in the manual have come from troops coming out of Iraq.
The New York Times, which first reported in Thursday editions that the manual is near completion, did its usual hand-wringing quoted experts who question whether the Army and Marines have enough troops to carry out the new doctrine effectively while also preparing for other threats. The Army will use this manual to change its entire culture as it transitions to irregular warfare, retired General Jack Keane, a former acting Army chief staff, told the Times. But the Army does not have nearly enough resources, particularly in terms of people, to meet its global responsibilities while making such a significant commitment to irregular warfare.
I don't understand the objection to this. The moral duty of armed forces is to protect innocent life--and that one goes back at least as far as St. Augustine's City of God.
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working with and protecting civilians
I don't understand the objection to this. The moral duty of armed forces is to protect innocent life--and that one goes back at least as far as St. Augustine's City of God.
Our civilians. Not theirs. And these civilians are theirs. These guys can't be hiding among just the reeds down by the river.
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Sounds like an update of the Marines' Small War Manual
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Mike. Using civilians as shields (and even arranging "attrocities") is an integral part of Muzzi tactics. Thus, if you really want to save their civilians lives, you should make it known that you'll not play along.
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As I said, now at least a year or two ago, there is and will be a normal evolution of Iraq from a war zone to a police action. As things get more and more peaceful, our soldiers have to respond with less and less force. One terrorist no longer justifies destroying the houses of several friendly families.
This evolution is never pleasant, and always looks like our soldiers are being "pussyfied".
But grit your teeth and accept it as a very good sign that Iraq is becoming peaceful.
Eventually, unarmed US soldiers will walk down the street of most Iraqi cities, and if they hear a gunshot, they will call an Iraqi cop.
Score an own goal! Ht to Captain Ed. Feel-good story of the mornin'
An explosion collapsed a tunnel under the Gaza-Egypt border early Friday, trapping five terrorists inside and killing at least one, Palestinians said. how's that air supply, boys?
The Aksa Martyrs' Brigades said the five were members. The group refused to say what they were doing. what they were doing? they're dying. Smuggled explosives and got a little rough, maybe?
The group said the explosion was not caused by an IAF air strike, after first blaming Israel.
The IDF said it had no forces inside Gaza and denied involvement in the incident. "but we like a good drama with a moral as well as anybody"
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What? It's always the Joos fault. Always. Allan would never allow such a thing.
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It was AAMB, coming from Egypt. How much you wanna bet they were bringing ammo for the civil war?
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Yeah, I was somewhat skeptical about the Israeli air force operating 40 feet underground. I don't think the US has sold the F-15 digger attachment to anyone else's military yet.
Abu: Moshe, could we borrow one of your
caterpillars? The kind with the
large backhoe?
Moshe: But Abu ! I thought you guys hated
caterpillars?
Abu: No..no...no.. Moshe. You're thinking
of the friends of Rachel Corre.
Thats not us.
Moshe: Well then, certainly. I'll bring it
by next Tuesday.
Abu: Uh, Moshe...I was thinking...maybe I
could get it , like you know...today?
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I've a hunch it was hauled from Gaza to the border. Remember, the last time Egypt sealed their border with Gaza, the Paleos blew holes in the wall.
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Indeed Pappy, work related accident. But kind of intersting to entertain the thought Egypt caved in their end. It's not like they'd want them to succede.
Three Islamic Jihad operatives were killed in two separate incidents in the Gaza Strip on Thursday. In addition, two Kassam rockets were fired at communities in the western Negev. No one was wounded and no damage was caused.
In the morning, IAF aircraft bombed a car carrying two members of the terror group between the towns of Khan Yunis and Rafah. The IDF said the two were on their way to perpetrate attacks against Israel. On Wednesday, two other Islamic Jihad operatives were wounded in an Israeli missile strike. Later in the day, troops shot and killed an armed Palestinian placing a bomb near the security fence close to the Kissufim crossing. Islamic Jihad, in a text message sent to reporters, said the man, Yussef Kabalan, 21, was a member of the terror group and was shot while approaching the border.
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Gunmen yesterday killed an official of the Muslim autonomous region in the southern Philippines, authorities said yesterday. Police said the victim, lawyer Arnel Datukon, was on his way to office in downtown Cotabato City at 8 a.m. yesterday when two gunmen on board a motorcycle peppered his car with automatic rifle fire. "There is an investigation going on and our forces are tracking down the gunmen responsible in this senseless killing," Chief Supt. Joel Goltiao, the regional police chief, told Arab News by phone.
Datukon was the executive director of the Social Fund Project of the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM), which is based in Cotabato City. Witnesses said the attackers were wearing camouflage uniforms, which are widely available in stores in Cotabato City, despite a strict campaign against the use by civilians of these uniforms. Investigators said they were also looking into any link between yesterdays ambush and a bomb attack last June, which narrowly missed Maguindanao provincial Gov. Andal Ampatuan as his car was passing along the public market of Shariff Aguak town.
Authorities blamed the assassination attempt on two leaders of the separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), who both denied the charges. An attempt by the police to arrest the suspected bombers led to fighting between MILF fighters and militiamen loyal to Gov. Ampatuan. The wife of one of the suspects, Zaid Pakiladatu, was killed later on in an ambush in Cotabato City by unknown assailants.
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Motorcycle hit like this are the signature of the NPA. The NPA have a strong presence in Cotabato and have to keep the muzzies in check there.
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Piano wire.
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Sri Lanka's Air Force bombed Tamil Tiger bases for a third day yesterday, and suspected rebels clashed with government soldiers, after the foes agreed to crunch talks aimed at halting renewed civil war. Residents in the far northern army-held Jaffna peninsula heard volleys of artillery shells before dawn, but said the intensity was far lower than in recent weeks -- the worst fighting since a 2002 ceasefire that now lies in tatters. The military said the Air Force pounded suspected bases of the rebels' naval Sea Tiger wing in the eastern district of Batticaloa, and also raided rebel targets in the north.
The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and the government have agreed to meet for talks on October 28-30 after a six-month impasse. The government committed to the talks on Wednesday night, and says they will take place in Geneva.
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Yep!
Look at the air intakes at the wing root.
nothing else like it.
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Good old F-105 Thunderjugs! Probably on a bombing raid in NVN, circa 1968. Note the one at the bottom hasn't been painted in the normal camouflage colors yet! There's also one in the middle that hasn't been painted yet. Photo was taken from above, probably by a reconnaissance aircraft. If I could see the ground, I might even be able to tell you where they're bombing...
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From IntelWire, an article by J. M. Berger
Ali A. Mohamed, a shadowy Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) member who infiltrated the U.S. Army, ... was an irreplaceable link in the 1993 bombing plot [against the World Trade Center]. The evidence for Mohamed's role in the 1993 bombing is substantial and -- by the standards of most terrorism investigations -- extraordinarily concrete. Mohamed trained several members of the Brooklyn terror cell responsible for the bombing, including Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohamed Salameh, Clement Hampton-El and Siddig Siddig Ali, according to extensive court records, testimony and physical evidence.
When Ramzi Yousef and an accomplice entered the U.S. in 1992 to begin work on the bombing, they were carrying terrorist training material directly linked to Mohamed, according to physical evidence presented in court.
Yousef and his accomplice flew into the country after visting an al Qaeda encampment where -- according to multiple eyewitness accounts -- Mohamed was working as a trainer and assembling terrorist training manuals. On entering the country, Yousef immediately contacted two of Mohamed's trainees, both of whom were later indicted for the World Trade Center bombing, court records show.
From IntelWire, an article by J. M. Berger
Ali A. Mohamed .... knew al Qaeda was sponsoring flight training for terrorists. He knew of at least one specific terrorist operation centered on a suicide airplane attack. And he knew at least three terrorist pilots personally. He was linked to at least one of the specific schools visited by the 9/11 hijackers. He knew the internal procedures of the security company that maintained two checkpoints used by hijackers at Boston's Logan Airport. ..... Whether or not Mohamed knew the particulars of the 9/11 plot, he knew a lot. Businesses and institutions exploited by Mohamed and his close associates were re-used by virtually all of the 9/11 hijackers as they prepared for the attack.
Ali Mohamed joined Egyptian Islamic Jihad some time around 1984; he reported to Ayman Al-Zawahiri. His very first terrorist assignment was design strategies to hijack planes from the Cairo airport. Over the course of the next several years, Mohamed refined his techniques and pass them on to others. By 1992, he was formally training al Qaeda terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan in hijacking techniques, including where to sit and how to smuggle small weapons onto planes -- including utility knives like those used in the September 11 plot.
Mohamed trained terrorists on behalf of al Qaeda in locations from Afghanistan to New Jersey, from London to Somalia. Ramzi Yousef -- who with his uncle Khalid Shaikh Mohammed came up with the first draft of the 9/11 plan -- was a student at al Qaeda's Afghanistan camps during the years Mohamed was teaching hijacking tactics there.
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In 1995, Mohamed obtained employment with the Burns International Security Co., a private company that provided security services to businesses and government agencies. (Timothy McVeigh once worked for the company's armored car division.) Mohamed was assigned as a security guard at a Northrop Grumman facility that developed sensitive components used in nuclear weapons. Mohamed sought a security clearance to work in the facility's classified areas, but his application was denied. .....
When the FBI found the car left behind the five 9/11 hijackers who departed from Dulles Airport near Washington, they discovered a map of the D.C. area with Abdi's name and phone number written with a yellow highlighter. Burns' Globe subsidiary provided security at both Reagan and Logan airports. Investigators discovered Abdi had removed five Burns security guard jackets from his workplace before September 11. He attempted to give them to the Salvation Army three days after the attack. ....
One very specific piece of intelligence provided by Ali Mohamed did not make it onto the President's brief. Siddig Ibrahim Siddig Ali, a Sudanese national living in the United States, had attempted to mount a suicide airplane attack as early as 1992. Under this early plan, a Sudanese Air Force pilot would steal a military plane, use to bomb the home of Egyptian president Hosni Mubarek, then crash the plane into the American Embassy. Siddig Ali was a member of a Brooklyn-centered terrorist cell led by blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman. The cell's most dangerous members had been trained by Ali Mohamed in New Jersey in 1989 -- and Siddig had been one of his students. Mohamed told the FBI about the plot around the same time he was negotiating his plea agreement in 2000, according to Cloonan. ....
(During Rahman's 1993 trial, defense attorneys attempted to ask Salem if he had met Mohamed in Egypt, but the line of questioning was cut off as irrelevant.)
.... the sheer volume of the linkages and their nature overwhelmingly suggest that Ali Mohamed built a substantial network of prospects, contacts, services and tactics for use by al Qaeda operatives in the United States. And Mohamed has -- without a doubt -- been succeeded by others who now maintain that network. The bottom line remains. The network wasn't dismantled prior to 9/11, and it's not clear that it has been dismantled even now.
Never has there been a better argument for reinstating cruel and unusual punishment. Torture this scummy piece of shit to death as slowly as possible.
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One thing to note here...Egypyt has fomented the core ideology to this Muzzie uprising. Money comes from Saoodis and Iranians. From Saddam also before he was taken down. Much training and mischief from Pakland. And from Syria and Libya. I don't trust Moooamar any farthaer than he can be tossed. Turkey is not to be trusted. To say we don't know where the targets are is a farce. And, behind the curtain, is our favorite friend Putie, supplying all the real know how.
Now the second major, MAJOR issue is that a lot of Muzzie scum is working in very sensitive areas in our country. Many do have security clearances. I think this is outrageous. This demonstrates just how it is being used against us on a daily basis.
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Hmm, just an iffy link. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. ??
Nothing bad about retro -- I rather prefer it! Just for a change of pace. Sometimes I think there are no young women left who gave a damn about anything beyond pilates, accessorizing, and planning the perfect $50,000 wedding, so the interviews are very encouraging.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
Commanders from five Nato countries whose troops have just fought the bloodiest battle with the Taliban in five years, are demanding their governments get tough with Pakistan over the support and sanctuary its security services provide to the Taliban.
Deputy Interior Minister Prince Ahmed said yesterday that the government had released a large number of militants and extremists after they repented. "The releases are continuing," he added. "We are happy to say that the number of people released is more than those remaining in detention," Prince Ahmed told reporters at attending a ceremony in Riyadh to honor retired employees of the Interior Ministry. He also spoke about the Kingdom's efforts to win the release of all Saudi detainees in Guantanamo. "We are closely following the case of Guantanamo prisoners. We hope to close this chapter very soon."
A listed criminal was killed in an 'encounter' between his accomplices and Rapid Action Battalion (Rab) at Alamganj Ghat of Sutrapur in the capital early yesterday. The dead, Bijoy Hossain alias Kalu, 25, was a cohort of infamous criminal 'Dakat' Shahid and accused in a number of cases for murder and other crimes, police and Rab sources said.
The Portuguese authorities deported last Sunday an Algerian suspected to be involved in the 9/11 attacks. He was imprisoned in Lisbon for fraud. The lawyer of the deported accused the Portuguese services of foreigners and borders of keeping him in custody in order to hand him over to the Algerian authorities.
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - The Iraq war could be heading to its decisive moment: a battle for the capital of Baghdad that already has turned dramatically bloodier for American soldiers and carries enormous stakes for the country's future.
WASHINGTON Drawing on its successes and failures in Iraq, the military is completing a new counterinsurgency strategy that emphasizes working with and protecting civilians, U.S. defence officials said Thursday.
Three Islamic Jihad operatives were killed in two separate incidents in the Gaza Strip on Thursday. In addition, two Kassam rockets were fired at communities in the western Negev. No one was wounded and no damage was caused. 
Gunmen yesterday killed an official of the Muslim autonomous region in the southern Philippines, authorities said yesterday. Police said the victim, lawyer Arnel Datukon, was on his way to office in downtown Cotabato City at 8 a.m. yesterday when two gunmen on board a motorcycle peppered his car with automatic rifle fire. "There is an investigation going on and our forces are tracking down the gunmen responsible in this senseless killing," Chief Supt. Joel Goltiao, the regional police chief, told Arab News by phone.
Sri Lanka's Air Force bombed Tamil Tiger bases for a third day yesterday, and suspected rebels clashed with government soldiers, after the foes agreed to crunch talks aimed at halting renewed civil war. Residents in the far northern army-held Jaffna peninsula heard volleys of artillery shells before dawn, but said the intensity was far lower than in recent weeks -- the worst fighting since a 2002 ceasefire that now lies in tatters. The military said the Air Force pounded suspected bases of the rebels' naval Sea Tiger wing in the eastern district of Batticaloa, and also raided rebel targets in the north.
