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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Counterculture Meets Mall Culture for Grace Slick
Grace Slick says she can't remember a lot of things, which is perhaps no surprise given how much she drank and drugged herself into oblivion during her reign as a rock-and-roll queen. But she knows who she is today:
"I'm a 67-year-old fat, white-haired, liver-spotted woman." Of her body, she says, "It's all lumpy stuff with lines."
"I'm a 67-year-old fat, white-haired, liver-spotted woman." Of her body, she says, "It's all lumpy stuff with lines."

Ahem. Anything else? "I think old people are scary," says the former hippie vixen. "They remind you of your own death. People don't like to tell you that."

This is where Grace Slick likes to be: in your face, her blue eyes holding you hostage, unleashing verbal assaults. As lead singer for the Jefferson Airplane in the 1960s and the group it begat in the '70s, Jefferson Starship, she was a voice of countercultural transgression. Now she's an artist holding court at a gallery in a suburban shopping mall, where some 150 people have come to see her paintings and drawings. But mostly it is a chance for them to set their eyes on a legend, the woman who did all those bad things that horrified parents -- and survived.

Slick's work revolves around "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland," nudes and rock musicians (live ones like Eric Clapton, but more often dead ones like Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Jerry Garcia and Janis Joplin).
Polka-dotted teacups are set on a table at the Wentworth Gallery in Fashion Centre at Pentagon City, in a tribute to Slick, whose work revolves around "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland," nudes and rock musicians (live ones like Eric Clapton, but more often dead ones like Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Jerry Garcia and Janis Joplin).
The people who did all those bad things that horrified parents -- and didn't survive. Whoopdy doo.
Near the gallery's entrance, a poster of a young woman stares hard into you, eyes peeking out from under thick brown bangs: It's an iconic 1968 photo of Slick, then about 28, wearing a green Girl Scouts USA shirt.

Before taking the first of several cigarette breaks, she pops out a false incisor, then shoves it back in.
Today Slick's thick white hair is pulled back in a ponytail that cascades to her waist; she wears silver hoop earrings the diameter of a small yogurt container. She's seated at a black-clothed table; her black-fringed sweater poncho is paired with pencil-cut black jeans; a deep red chenille scarf drapes her shoulders. When she smiles, which isn't often, she is radiant.
A radiant old lady, but still radiant.
Before taking the first of several cigarette breaks, she pops out a false incisor, then shoves it back in.
Still got her old class, I see...
What happened to her tooth? "It fell out," she barks. "I'm old."
You said that before.
Security guards flanking her, she is escorted outdoors to smoke. She's obviously someone important, but passing shoppers don't seem to know who.
She's somebody who used to have a minor importance. Now she's an old lady.
Posted by: Fred || 01/14/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Who?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 01/14/2007 0:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Yo're only pretty as you feel..
Just as pretty as you feel inside...
Posted by: 3dc || 01/14/2007 0:34 Comments || Top||

#3  THEN:



Now...
pretty bad - no need to scour any eyeballs...
Posted by: 3dc || 01/14/2007 0:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Before taking the first of several cigarette breaks, she pops out a false incisor, then shoves it back in.

What happened to her tooth? "It fell out," she barks. "I'm old."


nuff said...
Posted by: RD || 01/14/2007 2:41 Comments || Top||

#5  Guess which one is Grace Slick?

clue, it's the one who radiates inner beauty
Posted by: RD || 01/14/2007 2:53 Comments || Top||

#6  Gal could sing 'tho.
Posted by: Shipman || 01/14/2007 7:22 Comments || Top||

#7  The image of Grace Slick

taking the first of several cigarette breaks, she pops out a false incisor, then shoves it back in.

is a good image for next-generations to really understand that whole 1960's "rage" thing. We didn't see it that way at the time because everyone was young and beautiful then, but that about sums it up.
Posted by: Angomotch Ebberenter4605 || 01/14/2007 7:45 Comments || Top||

#8  Why did parents hate what she did? Is this her most important legacy? How about being among the pied pipers that lead a few generations down paths of self destruction. Hmm, it's ironic that someone who mouthed all the revolutionary B.S. of the 60's is now in the Pentagon mall working at a gallery called Wentworths. How revolutionary.
Posted by: Canaveraldan || 01/14/2007 8:04 Comments || Top||

#9  she WAS hot.....
Posted by: Frank G || 01/14/2007 8:41 Comments || Top||

#10  awww Ship wat a great recording!!!! LOL ima saving it.

/I have stories about Grace! well....
Posted by: RD || 01/14/2007 9:16 Comments || Top||

#11  "A radiant old lady"

Don't you mean "glows in the dark"? If you ingest enough chemicals . . .

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 01/14/2007 14:15 Comments || Top||

#12  As someone who absolutely loved the sound of Grace Slick's voice long before seeing her HOT pics, it is definitely a bummer to see her selling herself at the the Fashion Center at the Pentagon Mall. But, as with most things, anything to keep your name and face in front of the public AND make a buck.
Posted by: WolfDog || 01/14/2007 17:07 Comments || Top||

#13  The crazy old bitch ran me off the road back in 99' as I was driving to my in-laws place in Walnut Creek! There I was, puttering innocently along on my Moto Guzzi, when Grace "Still Not That Sober" Slick comes halfway into my lane on Highway 4, doing 110 mph in (believe it or not) a clapped out Bentley. I went into a ditch, and she kept right on going (or ‘truckin, or WTF ever). The really scary thing is that White Rabbit was blaring out of her car’s speakers the entire time.
Posted by: Secret Master || 01/14/2007 17:17 Comments || Top||

#14  SecretMaster, you have been near heaven.
Posted by: Shipman || 01/14/2007 18:06 Comments || Top||

#15  I just like the idea of a "clapped out Bentley" :>
Posted by: Shipman || 01/14/2007 18:07 Comments || Top||

#16  Aw, crap. I feel a little guilty. We all straighened out and got good jobs in computers and such while she and a few others continued to burn out their grey matter. They did it for us, I should feel guilty.

Okay, I don't feel anything. I did like Mama Cass, though. I feel sad. She could sing really good. Made Grace sound like she was shouting.
Come to think about it, she was shouting.
Posted by: wxjames || 01/14/2007 18:26 Comments || Top||

#17  If you remember the 60's you weren't there. I remember being in Berkeley in the 60's and going to college there. I got this degree thingy in 1970. I remember Grace's singing, hot. But Imr canna recall nufing much else.....*sigh*
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/14/2007 18:39 Comments || Top||

#18  While at the time it did seem strange that the University of Tennessee marching band never played Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of America", I went through part of my life thinking it was Tennessee's fight song.

How wrong we are in our youth...
Posted by: badanov || 01/14/2007 20:30 Comments || Top||

#19  yeah, but then she did "we built this city" in the 80s - quite possibly the worst song of all time. The type of jingle that sticks in your grape like a f*ckin' cyclic cranium freeze you cannot get rid of. Damn you grace, damn you to hell.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 01/14/2007 20:55 Comments || Top||

#20  I happen to have a radio station's promo version to the J.A.'s First album; been played completely though, maybe once (won it, didn't buy it). Couldn't stand her voice or lyrics then, glad I wasn't shopping at Woolworths, or where ever she was. Something about eating and keeping it down.
Posted by: USN, ret. || 01/14/2007 21:49 Comments || Top||

#21  Just a few Airplane memories I keep around in my infinite MP3 online jukebox maybe hear them once a year (playlist is kind-of-long):

jefferson_airplane$ ls -LR
.:
jefferson_airplane___free_ride.mp3 jefferson_airplane___white_rabbit.mp3 jefferson_airplane___somebody_to_love.mp3 jefferson_airplane___wooden_ships.mp3 jefferson_airplane___volunteers.mp3

./2400_fulton_street_disc_two:
eat_starch_mom.mp3 martha.mp3 rejoyce.mp3 today.mp3 we_can_be_together.mp3
eskimo_blue_day.mp3 mexico.mp3 the_levi_commercials.mp3 triad.mp3

./hits_cd_1:
caroline.mp3 its_no_secret.mp3 the_ballad_of_you_and_me_and_pooneil.mp3
comin_back_to_me.mp3 lather.mp3 third_week_in_the_chelsea.mp3
crown_of_creation.mp3 long_john_silver.mp3
volunteers.mp3
embryonic_journey.mp3 plastic_fantastic_lover.mp3 white_rabbit.mp3
good_shepherd.mp3 pretty_as_you_feel.mp3 wooden_ships.mp3
greasy_heart.mp3 ride_the_tiger.mp3
have_you_seen_the_saucers.mp3 somebody_to_love.mp3

./hits_cd_2:
be_my_lady.mp3 its_not_over_til_its_over.mp3 nothings_gonna_stop_us_now.mp3 stranger.mp3
count_on_me.mp3 jane.mp3 no_way_out.mp3 tomorrow_doesnt_matter_tonight.mp3
find_your_way_back.mp3 layin_it_on_the_line.mp3 runaway.mp3 we_built_this_city.mp3
its_not_enough.mp3 miracles.mp3 sara.mp3 with_your_love.mp3

./the_worst_of:
blues_from_an_airplane.mp3 crushingura.mp3
Posted by: 3dc || 01/14/2007 22:47 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Tsunami fear prompts big evacuation in Hokkaido
A powerful undersea earthquake Saturday afternoon sparked a tsunami warning for Hokkaido's Pacific and Sea of Okhotsk coasts, sending thousands fleeing to higher ground.

The Meteorological Agency issued the warning shortly after the magnitude-8.2 quake occurred at 1:24 p.m. about 30 km below the seabed near the Kuril Trench, about 500 km east of Etorofu, one of the four islands held by Russia but claimed by Japan. There were no reports of casualties or major damage, and the warning was lifted at around 6 p.m. A tsunami advisory was also issued for a long stretch of Honshu's Pacific coast.

A total of about 110,000 residents in 24 municipalities, including Nemuro, Hokkaido, and Ofunato, Iwate Prefecture, were advised to evacuate to higher ground. Some residents on Russian-held Kunashiri Island were also evacuated, an official said by phone in the afternoon, adding that no damage had been confirmed at that time.
Posted by: Fred || 01/14/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  MARIANAS VARIETY/PDN > citizens of the CNMI were evacuated to high ground after the CNMI authorities were warned of tsunamis from the 8.3-magnitude quake. For me here in Guam, felt a 1.0-1 1/8-second light tremor + electro sparkings in the atmosphere.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 01/14/2007 22:05 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
Mugabe forks out cash for Pakistani army experts
The cash-strapped Zimbabwe government will fork out hundreds of thousands of US dollars to pay Pakistani military experts who have arrived in Harare to help train and equip the army, which has been weakened by mass resignations of experienced officers. Safdara Hayat, the first secretary at the Pakistani embassy in Harare, confirmed the arrival of the first four senior military experts from the Asian country in an interview with ZimOnline yesterday. He said they were all seconded to the Airforce of Zimbabwe (AFZ).

The Pakistani experts have arrived in the country at a time when the nation faces growing threats of strike actions by long-suffering workers. The government fears these strikes might escalate into a bigger social unrest problem. The government has been heavily recruiting to replace army and police officers, deserting in droves to find better paying jobs in neighbouring countries and beyond. Reports from Pakistan suggest that more military experts are on their way to Zimbabwe.
Pak military experts certainly know a thing or two about keeping the populace down ...
While Hayat professed ignorance at the exact amounts the Pakistani officers would be paid, he nonetheless confirmed that the Zimbabwe government would be responsible for paying their salaries.

Pakistani’s Daily Times newspaper earlier reported that the experts had been deployed only after Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz approved a revised agreement which offered improved conditions of service for experts seconded to the Zimbabwean army and air force. The newspaper said that Pakistani officers from the rank of captain to brigadier and those of equivalent ranks in the Pakistani armed forces would, on their deputation to Zimbabwe, get monthly salaries in the range of US$1,500 to US$3,300 and other allowances and privileges such as free accommodation and medical cover. The report said that the monthly salary of troops in lower ranks would be from US$615 to $712 excluding other allowances and privileges.
Most of the cash will end up in pockets somewhere high in the Pak defense ministry; the soldiers will get their usual crummy pay and allowances.
The amounts are a far cry from the poor salaries paid to Zimbabwean military and police personnel especially those in the lower tiers of the security forces.

The experts will stay in Zimbabwe for at least two years though their tenures can be extended under the military pact. Safdara said Pakistan had a long history of co-operating with Zimbabwe and there was nothing unusual with the military deal.
Especially the money.
Posted by: Pappy || 01/14/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mugabe is too big a racist to hire any of the white mercs available - he could get full crews from the Ukraine, Belarus, or Slovakia for less than the reported wages of the Pakis. But, the Pakis have families back home that can be reached by the ISI if they mess up, so that is why he will use them.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 01/14/2007 4:27 Comments || Top||

#2  The Chinese wouldn't trust Ukranians or Slovaks. Better to 'suggest' a client state.
Posted by: Pappy || 01/14/2007 10:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Mugabe has bought the best (at what they do, which is not warfighting).

It was a Pak officer, Zia Ul Haq, later dictator president of Pakistan, who commanded the troops in Jordan that crushed the PLO in "Black September".

Paks also have vast experience in crushing civilian unrest. In the 1970s they killed tens of thousands of Balochis. In 1980s they killed thousands of Shia muslims in Kashmir (a pogrom allegedly organized by Pervez Musharraf and executed by a tribal arab lashkar commanded by Osama Bin Laden.
Of course, the 1971 genocide of two to three million Bengalis in East Pakistan trumps all.
Posted by: john || 01/14/2007 11:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Of course, the Paki Army is really expert at surrendering to tribal militias.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 01/14/2007 13:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Only because the militias serve the interest of the Pak army - increasing Pak influence in Afghanistan - "strategic depth".
If they were actually viewed as a threat, the Pak army would not hesitate to exterminate them all.
For now it sends in cannon fodder - locals recruited into the paramilitary units - to be killed then declares a truce.
Posted by: john || 01/14/2007 18:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Don't forget - the Official name of Pakistan is "The Islamic Republic of Pakistan".
The official motto of the Pak army is
"Iman-Taqwa-Jihad fi sabilillah "
(Faith, Fear of Allah, Jihad in the way of Allah)


Posted by: john || 01/14/2007 18:24 Comments || Top||

#7  Well, john, they don't have "Don't tread on me" in their motto, so we have found their fatal flaw to exploit, heh.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/14/2007 21:52 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Texans Threatened With Families' Kidnap And Murder By Mexican Extortion Gangs
The voice on the phone demanded that a large sum of money be wired to a Mexican bank account number. There was no name attached to the voice, but its owner had clearly done his research.

“Basically, he said he was a professional hitman and he knew who our family was and where we lived,” said a relative of the prominent McAllen businessman who had picked up the phone. The family has asked to remain anonymous out of concern for their safety. “Unless he was paid within three hours, one of the family members would be ‘picked up,’ was the term he used.”

The family refused to pay and contacted the FBI, who told them they were probably the latest victims of what is believed to be a professional extortion scam operating out of Mexico.

Over the last 12 months the FBI has heard repeated reports of prominent individuals in the Upper Rio Grande Valley, including doctors, lawyers and businessmen, receiving phone calls demanding between $20,000 and $70,000 in exchange for their families’ safety, said John Johnson, assistant special agent in charge in the FBI’s McAllen office.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/14/2007 11:05 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Odds are that the people being threatened have family on both sides of the border.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 01/14/2007 11:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Trace the call then bomb the house. Simple and effective.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/14/2007 12:53 Comments || Top||


Chavez says he hopes for better relations with US
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Saturday before meeting with Iranian president Mahmous Ahmadinejad, that he had personally told a US official he hoped relations would improve with Washington. Chavez said he ran into Thomas Shannon, head of the US State Department's Western Hemisphere affairs bureau, at the inauguration of Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega this week. "Mr. Shannon approached and I greeted him," Chavez said in a speech to government officials and legislators. "We shook hands and I told him, 'I hope that everything improves.' I'm not anyone's enemy."

US officials have accused Chavez of authoritarian tendencies, while US National Intelligence Director John Negroponte said during an annual review of global threats this week that Venezuela's democracy was at risk under Chavez.
Posted by: Fred || 01/14/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can't teach a Communist much about taquiya.
Posted by: Grunter || 01/14/2007 0:23 Comments || Top||

#2  Lose the jewelry and we'll talk.
Posted by: gorb || 01/14/2007 3:46 Comments || Top||

#3  He actually quipped in his innarugation last week that he seriously considered wearing 2 presidential sashes.... for the Pancho Via look, but Jeebus, wait there's more, then he considered 3! The 3rd going betwixt his laigs and up his back. This fella is a weird one.
Posted by: Shipman || 01/14/2007 7:33 Comments || Top||

#4  "Seamos Amigos!"
Posted by: Spomort Greling4204 || 01/14/2007 8:57 Comments || Top||

#5  In other news, Saruman says he hopes for better relations with Gondor.
Posted by: Korora || 01/14/2007 12:29 Comments || Top||

#6  Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Posted by: Grunter || 01/14/2007 15:26 Comments || Top||

#7  Want better relations with us?

Kill yourself.
Posted by: Ebbigum Fluting4682 || 01/14/2007 15:33 Comments || Top||

#8  mmm.... no.

Actually, I'm hoping for your assassination or war.
Posted by: DarthVader || 01/14/2007 20:13 Comments || Top||

#9  I would personally like to have a very friendly relationship with Eva Longoria. I actually stand a better chance of that than Hugo does with the US.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 01/14/2007 21:34 Comments || Top||

#10  " I'm not anyone's enemy"

Except everyone in Venezuela who isn't a "chavista"
Posted by: ΛΕΟΝΙΔΑΣ || 01/14/2007 22:22 Comments || Top||


Europe
Italian court convicts 10 ex-SS members
A military tribunal on Saturday convicted 10 former members of the Nazi SS and acquitted seven others for the 1944 slaughter of more than 700 people near Bologna - the worst World War II-era civilian massacre in Italy, a news report said.

The 10 received life sentences, said the Italian news agency ANSA. The defendants, all tried in absentia, are believed to live in Germany. They are one former officer and 16 enlisted personnel of the 16th SS Division. The murder trial was held in a military court in the northern port town of La Spezia. Court officials in La Spezia could not immediately be reached Saturday afternoon.
Posted by: Fred || 01/14/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hang 'em.
Posted by: Shipman || 01/14/2007 7:35 Comments || Top||

#2  I agree with Ship, so many worthy of the noose managed to slip away at the end of the war. Syria's most noted citizen, Alios Brunner is the one I want to see swing.
I hope the perpetrators of today's barbarisms are pursued as relentlessly.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 01/14/2007 8:34 Comments || Top||

#3  There must have been a heck of a lot of them involved for there to still be 10 survivors, all at least in their 80s. My guess is that the entire unit was charged with the war crime.

The 16th was formed from ethnic Germans, but I've no idea what country the volksdeutsche came from, possibly Hungary. It surrendered to British forces in Austria.

The Russians, especially, put out wants and warrants on anyone who belonged to entire SS units, and not just einsatzgruppe, but Waffen SS as well.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/14/2007 10:06 Comments || Top||

#4  But they simply can't, the holocaust... it never really happened! ... right?
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/14/2007 11:04 Comments || Top||

#5  Well, it is all well and good to put out a contract on individuals who committed war crimes, but spending 60 years tracking down somebody who was there but may or may not have actually done anything is a bit obsessive. The officer, maybe, but nine privates?

Unless they had developed some new evidence, waiting 60 years for a trial, in absentia, no less, just comes across as weird.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/14/2007 13:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Our enlisted don't get a pass even when they do follow the rules of engagement, so why should Krauts get a pass when he is ordered not to?
Posted by: badanov || 01/14/2007 14:24 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Russian Whines about not being given Paleo Passport (by those nasty Joos)
Posted by: phil_b || 01/14/2007 18:06 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Southeast Asia
Indonesia reels from two new bird flu deaths, outbreak feared
There appears to be 3 or 4 clusters with perhaps 10 to 20 suspected/possible cases. Expect more news in the next couple of days.
Posted by: phil_b || 01/14/2007 16:55 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Interesting that so many of Indonesia's provinces have the flu at 'epidemic' levels (from the article), yet it hasn't shown a lot of international transmission. God forbid that it gets a foothold in a locale that people really want to see and then begin taking it home.
Posted by: USN, ret. || 01/14/2007 22:02 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran: Voting age increased from 15 to 18
Iran's constitutional watchdog, the Guardian Council, has passed into law a parliament bill that raises the voting age in national elections from 15 to 18, state-run television reported Saturday.

The law came into effect immediately, state TV said. Iranians as young as 15-year-old had previously been allowed to vote in some local elections. The new law bars from voting many of the youths who cast their ballot in local elections last month, when hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad suffered humiliating defeat. The next legislative elections are due in February 2008, and presidential ones in 2009.
Posted by: Fred || 01/14/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Which demographic group are they cutting off? Liberal elements?
Posted by: gorb || 01/14/2007 3:47 Comments || Top||

#2  In fact I am bevoming increasingly opposite to the 18 year old voting age. At this age many/most people are not autonomous (meaning that they will have an influenxce on taxes depite not paying them).
They are also under the influenxce of nutty professors a la Chmosky or Ward Churchillwithout being confronted to the clubat of real life.

So I would follow the doctine exposed in the excellent mahmood.tv ("you are an adult when you pay your first bill"). In fact I joke that you would have to produce a bill for being able to vote and a pay bulletin proving that you earn your own money.

More seriously I oppose allowing high schoolers/students to vote before being 21 years old.
Posted by: JFM || 01/14/2007 6:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Despicable. The way I see it, if you're old enough to be herded across a minefield, you're old enough to vote.
Posted by: mrp || 01/14/2007 7:59 Comments || Top||

#4  The voting age should be raised to 30, entail a minimum property/income requirement and the vote should register only upon passing a quiz in constitutional law.

Oh, and no chicks neither.
Posted by: Excalibur || 01/14/2007 9:47 Comments || Top||

#5 

Despicable. The way I see it, if you're old enough to be herded across a minefield, you're old enough to vote.



Just because there are people who go into minefileds isn't a reason to give right to vote to never do wells who study soft science. Also if I follow you then if you evaded the draft, you don't vote and you never get eligible as even a dog catcher FOR LIFE (Bill Clinton that is for you). But I agree: people who serve in the armed forces should have right to vote. Notice that unlike students they aren't being mantained by their parents so the "You don't vote until you pay your first bill" applies to them.

Oh and in France the military was denied the right to vote for decades. That was law made by the LEFT (and a couple years ago I stumbled upon someone who defended this). It was also the LEFT who denied vote to French women alleging they would vote "wrong". It was rightist, fascist,racist General de Gaulle who gave them this right. Just as in America it was the rightist, fascist, racist Republican party who allowed women to vote (and to Blacks)
Posted by: JFM || 01/14/2007 10:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Oh, and no chicks neither.

Hey no, first it is unfair. second: women have children third: we could no longer get laid when going to vote.
Posted by: JFM || 01/14/2007 10:17 Comments || Top||

#7  Just because there are people who go into minefileds isn't a reason to give right to vote to never do wells who study soft science. Also if I follow you then if you evaded the draft, you don't vote and you never get eligible as even a dog catcher FOR LIFE (Bill Clinton that is for you).

Did I forget to add the sardonic tags?
Posted by: mrp || 01/14/2007 10:36 Comments || Top||

#8  The new law bars from voting many of the youths who cast their ballot in local elections last month, when hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad suffered humiliating defeat.

Not winning? Move the goalposts.
Posted by: Pappy || 01/14/2007 10:56 Comments || Top||

#9  You got it, this has got to be the result of polling studies. 15-18 age group prolly isn't very fond of the hardline agenda.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 01/14/2007 16:50 Comments || Top||

#10  What's the legal Age for drinking in Mullahland? :)
Posted by: GK || 01/14/2007 18:23 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Does Abe Foxman Have an Anti-Anti-Semite Problem?
Posted by: ryuge || 01/14/2007 06:20 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  IMO, Foxman is ridiculous. But contemptible doesn't even begin to describe the author, Traub.
Posted by: gromgoru || 01/14/2007 8:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Contemptible is right, but I prefer despicable. In true liberal fashion, the NYT loves the opinions of self hating Jews.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 01/14/2007 8:42 Comments || Top||



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