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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Ammunition Encoding Act Proposed In 18 States - Ammo Control
The 2008 Legislative session has begun, and the Ammunition Accountability Act is being introduced across the country. Below is a summary of legislation that has been introduced throughout the United States. To view the bills' status click on the links to the individual bills...
Gun control has failed, so now the big effort is to prohibit ammunition.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/03/2008 18:14 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder who the ammunitionaccountability.org is and who is paying for it?
Posted by: tipover || 12/03/2008 18:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Look for them to go after reloading supplies and equipment, too.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 12/03/2008 19:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Encoding means little unless the purchaser can be identified through licensing. What we will have with this is defacto gun registration and the potential for limits on the type and quantities of ammunition available to the consumer. Lastly, this will cost a bundle to implement and what will be the status or legal disposition of old, non-encoded ammo. One can only guess. The cost will be passed along to the consumer. Er huh, hmmm, encoding.... shotgun shells????
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/03/2008 19:13 Comments || Top||

#4  There are multiple references to it being another Soros front org. It usually is when a well funded, pre-canned "grassroots" organization springs up from nowhere. Why not. Soros bought the US presidency, what's the second amendment compared to that?
States w/ Ammunition Accountability Act bills pending
Posted by: ed || 12/03/2008 19:34 Comments || Top||

#5  This is a round about way to ban ammunition. At least the washington state law requires that the encoding be such that it is 'higly likely' to survive imact.

Is that even possible or practical?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/03/2008 20:13 Comments || Top||

#6  The Washington bill was referred to committee in Feb 2008 so it is dead (at least until the next session. THis link: http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/guntalk/config.pl?noframes;read=78208 states that the serialzation scheme is the product of a couple of Seattle area lawyers that mean to extract a licensing fee from every round of bullet sold. so in addition to putting a chokehold on honest citizens they are gonna have their hands in our pants too.
Posted by: USN,Ret. || 12/03/2008 23:09 Comments || Top||

#7  I couldn't find the referenced bills in Tennessee legislation. The House bill has no history and no action has been taken. The Senate bill could not be found. These bills must be in the planning stages as they have not been introduced. I have received no alerts from the Tennessee Firearms Association. They must be looking for someone to sponsor them. Our legislature has recently replaced the speaker who has long been an impediment to pro-firearm legislation. Moreover, Tennessee has used firearms for protection and hunting for a long, long time.

I think these bills are wishful thinking of gun grabbers and gun controllers; just as the personalized weapons were that had to recognize your hand before they could be used.

This technology is sort of like the taggant technology used with explosives. However, this technology does not prevent people from manufacturing explosives. Same is true of ammunition; if a person wants to cast bullets, it is difficult to prevent it and as already mentioned there are billions of rounds of ammunition unidentified. Additionally, ammunition is readily available from other countries that is not identified. And then there will be the blackmarket for ammunition. If thugs want to use firearms and ammunition for crime, they will merely steal both or buy them illegally as they do now. The ammunition encoding act aims at controlling law abiding citizens.

The administration of such a law would be an enormous burden to taxpayers. All the current bailouts will not leave enough Federal money buy toilet paper for the Congress. The States can't afford such legislation either.

Posted by: JohnQC || 12/03/2008 23:37 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Chambliss wins Senate run-off in Georgia
About 58% - 42% with half the votes of the November election.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/03/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  not a surprise... hard to get the deadbeats out to vote a second time when:

a) martin aint black
b) it is cold outside
Posted by: Abu do you love || 12/03/2008 1:11 Comments || Top||

#2  c) when buyers' remorse kicks in
d) and when Palin is around drawing crowds while ACORN has not enough deceased voters and cartoon characters to marshall around.
Posted by: Spike Uniter || 12/03/2008 2:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Not that I'm complaining, but isn't it interesting that Centrist President Elect could not take a day off to fly down and endorse endorse Martin? No need to be seen or televised backing a loser I suppose eh? Quite the discussion yesterday at the barber shop.
Posted by: Besoeker || 12/03/2008 7:54 Comments || Top||

#4  @#3: I heard Saxby Chambliss last night talking about that point.

He pointed out that he had gotten more votes in his race than O! did in Georgia. He figured it would really fire up the GOP base if O! had come, and O! may well have figured the same way.
Posted by: Grenter, Protector of the Geats || 12/03/2008 8:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Now, if we can just get Franken to realize he is a loser.
Posted by: JohnQC || 12/03/2008 15:16 Comments || Top||

#6  we have a rep race here that EVERY precinct has reported in and the Dem still wont concede. Waiting for somebody to come up with an extr 2k ballots aint easy and takes time.
Posted by: Glaviter the Grim4778 || 12/03/2008 20:57 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Sacrificing Asthmatic Children To Al Gore
At the end of this month, the inhalers that millions of people with asthma use to control their symptoms will no longer be available. Those inhalers can prevent an asthma attack or relieve symptoms once one has begun.

The problem is that the inhalers propel the medication with chlorofluorocarbons, which deplete the ozone layer.

Effective Dec. 31, drug companies will no longer be able to manufacture or sell the CFC inhalers. "This is the first time that an effective medication has been removed from the market in the USA for an environmental issue," said Dr. Ira Feingold of the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology.
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Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/03/2008 08:50 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The sadists who came up with this should be locked in an airtight room, then forced to pay to suck on tubes with little gusts of air when they are suffocating.

While getting the helpful advice to "Inhale slowly, or else it won't work."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/03/2008 8:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Thanks to the CFC Nazis, the $10 nonprescription Primatene Mist inhalers that hundreds of thousands use to self treat mild asthma will go away in 2010 or 2011. It will end up with people in the emergency ward or worse.
Posted by: Kofi Gritle1415 || 12/03/2008 9:09 Comments || Top||

#3  I've got my pitchfork, I'm soaking my torch now.
When do we charge the ramparts in D.C.?
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 12/03/2008 9:52 Comments || Top||

#4  The CFC ban goes back a couple of decades. We did it to stop the growth of the hole in the ozone layer down near Antarctica. Made our air conditioners and cars more expensive. So how's that hole growing?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/03/2008 11:01 Comments || Top||

#5  This has been a substantial problem in my practice, taking lots of my time and that of my nurses, for little benefit that I can find. The costs are substantially higher for patients because the new propellant costs more.


One can't blame the drug companies: the companies that made the CFC propellant quitting making it so they had no choice.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/03/2008 11:00 Comments || Top||

#6  > Need to be cleaned more frequently.

Definitely true. I get them here in Brownistan.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 12/03/2008 11:20 Comments || Top||

#7  I speak as a lifelong asthmatic, and am disgusted at this governmental action re CFC inhalers. Big Brother at his ugliest...
Posted by: borgboy || 12/03/2008 14:44 Comments || Top||

#8  I've got one of the new formulations and it doesn't seem to work as fast as the old CFC's did. That's not generally a problem for me, but I can see where they would make the problem worse if someone is panicking because they can't breathe.

Between this and the new watered down allergy meds (because someone somewhere just might make a hit of speed from playing around with 20 boxes worth), it really makes me dread pollen season.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 12/03/2008 15:48 Comments || Top||

#9  CFCs were phased out by the Montreal Protocol which was enacted long before Gore's Kyoto nonsense. Sorry, can't blame this on Gore.
Posted by: Darrell || 12/03/2008 15:55 Comments || Top||

#10  Darrell, why not? The left blames everything bad on Bush.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 12/03/2008 17:44 Comments || Top||



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