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Home Front: Politix
Hollywood myth-making on Valerie Plame controversy
WaPo
In fact, "Fair Game," based on books by Mr. Wilson and his wife, is full of distortions - not to mention outright inventions. To start with the most sensational: The movie portrays Ms. Plame as having cultivated a group of Iraqi scientists and arranged for them to leave the country, and it suggests that once her cover was blown, the operation was aborted and the scientists were abandoned. This is simply false. In reality, as The Post's Walter Pincus and Richard Leiby reported, Ms. Plame did not work directly on the program, and it was not shut down because of her identification.
Posted by: Beavis || 12/04/2010 10:35 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Man, when even the editorial board of the Post can see through the bullshit...

Posted by: tu3031 || 12/04/2010 11:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Said Mr. Wilson: "For people who have short memories or don't read, this is the only way they will remember that period."

Which I think is the point of the exercise...
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/04/2010 12:16 Comments || Top||

#3  When is the movie about Sandy Berger comming out? I hear the working title is 'Trouser Trout' starring Drew Carry.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 12/04/2010 13:17 Comments || Top||

#4  I will do my part by ignoring this movie. BTW the rest of America lost interest in this movie right after it was released.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 12/04/2010 18:39 Comments || Top||

#5  cost $22M to make - it's been out 4 weeks and grossed.......$6,336,084

Heh Heh
Posted by: Frank G || 12/04/2010 19:10 Comments || Top||

#6  It's a loss-leader.

The real profit comes in ten years, when it's used in high school and college history classes.
Posted by: Pappy || 12/04/2010 20:43 Comments || Top||


Palin Not As Useless as Elitist Trunks Seem to Think
Clever, left-handed attack on both. Diabolical, even.
The recent attacks on Sarah Palin by establishment conservatives make her Democratic opponents seem like wusses. The prospect of a Palin presidential candidacy in 2012 has obviously spooked the GOP elite. But do they have to be so mean?

"What man or mouse with a fully functioning human brain and a resume as thin as Palin's would flirt with a presidential run?" MSNBC "Morning Joe" host and former Florida Republican representative Joe Scarborough fumed in a Politico guest column this week.
You mean besides the current holder of the office, Joe?
Palin is a gifted politician. She's gained prominence and political clout, however, by skillfully playing to popular prejudices with wild claims.
Not all of which have come to pass. And not all of her favorites won election last month, just enough to scare the $hit out of the Establishment.
I wouldn't want to see Sarah Palin anywhere near the White House, let alone in the Oval Office with a nuclear arsenal at her disposal. That's not a likely scenario anyway, given her low standing among independents and Democrats.

But the notion of a phalanx of conservative elites - Palin called them "blue bloods" - standing between her and the GOP nomination because they perceive her as inferior in intellect and social and political standing is pure snobbery.
Never enough snobbery for the WaPo.
Posted by: Bobby || 12/04/2010 07:57 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I've read something like this before -

During the inauguration, political boss Mark Hanna; who had been apprehensive about Theodore Roosevelt's joining the 1900 Republican ticket; is quoted as saying: "Do you realize that the only thing standing between that madman and the White House is a bullet?".
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/04/2010 9:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Since the Dems are attacking Sarah, it seems to me a very good reason to back and vote for her.
In other words, if they're Against her, I'm FOR her.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 12/04/2010 10:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Roosevelt's first historical book, The Naval War of 1812, published in 1882, established his professional reputation as a serious historian. After a few years of living in the Badlands, Roosevelt returned to New York City, where he gained fame for fighting police corruption. While effectively running the Department of the Navy, the Spanish American War broke out from which he resigned and led a small regiment in Cuba known as the Rough Riders, earning himself a nomination for the Medal of Honor (which was received posthumously on his behalf on January 16, 2001). After the war, he returned to New York and was elected governor in a close fought election. Within two years later he was elected Vice President of the United States.

Very similar, both born in the U.S.
Posted by: Zombie Hillary Lover || 12/04/2010 10:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Even if Obama has as little experience as Palin and was still able to win, his presidency leaves nothing to be desired.

Call me a snob if you will, but I won't be voting for her. She'd be a fine neighbor but I don't want her as my president. I'm sure there are better candidates out there. The Republicans better be very careful here.
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 12/04/2010 12:41 Comments || Top||

#5  BCC
O's presidency leaves a lot to be desired. He has no military, economic or business expertise. None. And we've become his learning lab, which is no comfort. And if you don't endorse Palin, would you please elaborate why and who might be better. I think repubs should be careful, I am curious but I hope things besides moose hunting jokes
Posted by: Fire and ice || 12/04/2010 13:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Sorry I meant I hope the reasons are beside moose hunting.
Posted by: Fire and ice || 12/04/2010 13:58 Comments || Top||

#7  It's much too early to narrow down the candidate list, for either party. It's also much too early to castigate others for their choice of the names currently in the hat, when we don't know who else will put their name in. That's what primary season is for... and why one waits until election day to vote, thus being able to include the last report of a dead girl or a live boy in one's decision-making.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/04/2010 14:22 Comments || Top||

#8  I think the Republicans have a little better pool than it appears, one of which is Palin. Disliking Palin does not make a person a snob if it is for the right reasons. Not liking her because of her accent, lifestyle, lack of ivy wallpaper, well now then....

And yes, there is some serious elitism going on in both parties. Elitism has a real I'm right because I am me problem with it, and practically speaking retards what should be a cream to the top model.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/04/2010 14:40 Comments || Top||

#9  Somehow I can't see Sarah Palin doing one-tenth as much damage to this nation in eight years as Barry has in two. She'd be ten times the better candidate for President than McCain was. I see this as just another in a long list of preemptive attacks to try to ensure she's not the GOP candidate. She certainly makes donkey-boy look like the over-educated idiot he is.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/04/2010 15:08 Comments || Top||

#10  Sure, here are the big reasons:

1. She's a quitter. No matter the reason...she quit. No one else would even be considered for a high level position with that track record.

2. She's apparently a big spender, not fiscally responsible. Note the debt she used to make a gov't sports complex on land that wasn't even purchased before construction started (what?), and went from sharing an emergency response center to a much more expensive single response center for a small town. She's not looking out for the taxpayers.

3. I don't wand to spend my life listening to her family's issues. And really, having your daughter on a reality show? Hardly presidential. If she wants to be a celebrity...fine, but have some respect for the presidential office.

4. She did incredibly poorly in her interviews. I wouldn't hire someone for any position with those disastrous interviews.

5. She wears red tart shoes. Guys love them, gals see them for what they are. I wouldn't vote for her on this reason alone, lol.

6. And yes, I couldn't stand listening to her voice, so pardon me.

If this is the best that our great republic has to offer, we are in seriously poor shape.



Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 12/04/2010 15:18 Comments || Top||

#11  She's a quitter.

There's a difference in cutting loses and being a quitter. Play it up with the rest of those who refuse to acknowledge she was the subject of practical political assassination by a relentless filing of 'ethics' charges by a Donk operative. By his and her actions she's 'become more powerful than you can ever imagine'.

And yes we are in poor shape. One of the reasons is good people won't even consider sticking their neck out, or that of their family, to the unending politics of personal destruction that way too many of the Inner Party and its minions engage in.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 12/04/2010 15:41 Comments || Top||

#12  I'm with Jim. The fact that her mere existence is enough to make liberal's heads almost explode... well, that earns her my support. And I like her accent. And she wears pretty shoes.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 12/04/2010 16:12 Comments || Top||

#13  @BBC
#1. She's a quitter...No, she's confident, knows when to cut a loss and readjust direction.
#2. Even small towns have brisk Emergency response requirement- our Fire and rescue down the block, some I know personally in this small town have to hustle to keep apace, imagine Alaska for God sake. It wise to spend there.
#3. Family issues being publicised or unpresidential? Hello, Obama appeared on the view. His wife gets tsk tsked for constantly parading her guns around uncovered, and his golf games bulk up the news. Their children are still too young too create waves, but teenagerhood looms.
#4. Bad interviews? Well, I would say she's better than the POTUS and need not use a TelePrompter crutch as liberally. Also, if I recall correctly she looked better and sounded more composed than VP Biden and and other current pols.
#5. Red shoes? Red shoes is the red tie for republican women. Red= Republican, it does not mean she's a harlot no
matter how great they look. Besides, totally cosmetic, who cares?
#6. Voice? Like we need a voice actor or a Talking head with the perfect voice? While I understand, again a totally cosmetic non-issue. Meanwhilst, Obama's voice and abundant vocalized pauses is yuck. Audio matters, but letting it interfere with sound appraisal of substance is an all too common trap voters let themselves fall into.
Posted by: Fire and ice || 12/04/2010 16:27 Comments || Top||

#14  You don't have to like her, Black Charlie Chinemble5313. I'm afraid I don't care, especially because half of your reasons boil down to, "I don't like her -- she's not my kind of people." And the other half are, "I don't like what the news media cats say about her, although I haven't done any research to find out whether or not they're lying."

Also, you forgot to mention that the McCain's campaign team hired a style consultant to buy Sarah Palin vice presidential clothes because all she had were things suitable for running around in Alaska, and she hasn't a $50,000 trust fund lying about for the purpose. (Yes, that's what about what it would cost. This is a subject on which I have some expertise. Clearly you do not.)

Sarah Palin has found her niche for the moment. It clearly involves distracting you from thinking about more important things.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/04/2010 16:27 Comments || Top||

#15  Did I mention that I think she's a divisive figure?

There are lots and lots of people like me out there, and I find it humorous that you think I'm not conservative and a "minion".

The split is not a conservative or liberal split as much as you'd like to make it out to be one.

I like Marc Rubio and Bobby Jindal and Col. West and lots more great people out there. I think it's funny that certain groups have already decided on a very divisive figure to support at all costs, even if it means losing the presidency and having a second Obama term. Whatever...have fun with your game.

Oh, and any other governor who was presidential material, facing a campaign to force them out of office would have figured out a way to deal with it, not quit.
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 12/04/2010 16:44 Comments || Top||

#16  And trailing wife...you have more experience of spending great gobs of money on clothes? Good for you, what a catty response. How typical.
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 12/04/2010 17:12 Comments || Top||

#17  Divisive!? LOL The division started long ago. There was a time that Dems and Pubs wanted basically the same things, but differed on how to get there. No longer true, and in fact I doubt that the two sides even want to live in the kind of country the other side wants to create. There is very little room for 'compromise' anymore.

I would not be sorry to NEVER have the opportunity to vote for another Harvard or Yale grad. Intellectuals generally believe that they are anointed to dictate to others how things should be done. I pray every day to be delivered from 'intellectuals.'
Posted by: SR-71 || 12/04/2010 17:13 Comments || Top||

#18  BBC
it's funny how worried about performance you seem to be. If Palin is meant to be eclipsed by some one else she will be, but in the mean time, I feel you should stop sounding like a bitch about bs like shoes and accents, unless you're willing to admit you're totally shallow. The election process will sort the rest out.
Posted by: Fire and ice || 12/04/2010 17:16 Comments || Top||

#19  If this is the best that our great republic has to offer, we are in seriously poor shape. Out of touch, aren't you? This great republic has been on the verge of collapse for a few years now.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 12/04/2010 17:28 Comments || Top||

#20  BBC you need to Dig deeper than edited interviews, hostile press treatment and your dislike for her accent and clothes. Your responses lead one to conclude that you are an ill informed ass.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/04/2010 18:47 Comments || Top||

#21  And you are all as nasty as the left. I don't like either side. How nice that those of us like me will decide the election.
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 12/04/2010 19:35 Comments || Top||

#22  Are these the same red shoes Dorothy wore? Does anybody have a link to them?

And i'm with SR-71. Palin is not divisive. She is revealing the division the MSM has covered up for years. It's been unnaturally repressed and it's going to finally let loose with a bang in two years regardless of who's nominated. Curtains for the welfare state, and none too soon.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/04/2010 19:36 Comments || Top||

#23  BCC - I find your arguments...unconvincing. Personally I don't she can win the Presidency and just like with Newt, I'd rather she provide ideas, back good candidates and play an influential role, but not as POTUS. I do enjoy the way she totally gets inside Libtard heads, and apparently yours as well. Commenting about her shoes? Really?
Posted by: Frank G || 12/04/2010 19:39 Comments || Top||

#24  And you are all as nasty as the left



I, for one, have not been totally nasty. I asked why you held your opinions, you answered, I responded. Now I should qualify my statement as an apology if it sounded rude. It was written as that you sounded like a bitch, I didn't say you ARE a bitch. The thing is, frankly when a person starts harping on tarty shoes, it hearkens to either a female with a chip on her shoulder (I am femalian), or a gay man. Nobody else that I know that doesn't fall in the aforementioned groups would care about something so insignificant as red shoes. Have some humour about your shallowness :-) It works for me, I am unabashedly shallow, but I also think Palin's rise to the spotlight is sorely needed at this time, whether she wins or not.
Posted by: Fire and Ice || 12/04/2010 19:59 Comments || Top||

#25  Sorry, unpresidential in my book. How funny that I agree with the comments under the photo. And it has nothing to do with my having a chip on my shoulder or being a gay man for crying out loud.

And it's not her accent that bothers me, it's the nasal quality. It's annoying as hell.

http://sparklepony.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-commits-unforgivable-shoe.html
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 12/04/2010 20:07 Comments || Top||

#26  The shoes aren't by far the classiest but if you want to talk bad clothes look no further than Michele wide belt Obama. She wears flashy colors to funerals, and all that said, her dressing is done from within the White House with more aides helping than any first lady in my lifetime. Everyone gets one or two fashion faux pas in my book, Mrs. Obama has used her allotment. Palin on the balance looks pretty good in a suit. Sorry, can't totally write her off because of the shoes lets hope its a mistake which she probably won't repeat that often.
Posted by: Fire and Ice || 12/04/2010 20:19 Comments || Top||

#27  A link to these shoes, please, Manolo.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 12/04/2010 21:29 Comments || Top||

#28  http://sparklepony.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-commits-unforgivable-shoe.html

BCC's link though just shows feet in red shoes, devoid of a body or face.
Posted by: Fire and Ice || 12/04/2010 21:35 Comments || Top||

#29  Read 'em and Weep, loser leftie Libs...

(Draft) SARAH PALIN-JOHN BOLTON In 2012 !Un-beatable! Drill Baby, Drill!

Reject and Deconstruct All Recent 0bama TSA/HHS/EPA/DOE/FDA/HHS/DOJ Imperialist Edicts. DO IT TODAY!
Posted by: pan || 12/04/2010 21:57 Comments || Top||

#30  cool with me pan
Posted by: Fire and Ice || 12/04/2010 22:01 Comments || Top||

#31  tw-I respect Sarah Palin because she's NOT nuanced, imperious and snarky; like yourself.

I never cared for your inuendo, bs remarks...I actually used to learn a thing or two at Rantburg before you totally corrupted the intent of this forum. It's probably because no Officers Wives Club, in any Branch could stomach 'yer ass. ;-)
Posted by: pan || 12/04/2010 22:19 Comments || Top||

#32  And trailing wife...you have more experience of spending great gobs of money on clothes? Good for you, what a catty response. How typical.

Thank you, my dear. It was meant to be. While neither my father's nor Mr. Wife's career has required me to spend, as you say, great gobs of money on clothes, I do have the knowledge to do so properly, should the need arise -- even if Mama did give up the shares she inherited in that little Paris design house. This is why I try not to talk about Mrs. Obama's wardrobe. There is a very real danger of revealing those who mistake their class for high class. (Did you catch how very catty that was? Are you quite, quite sure you got all the nuances?)

You are right about Sarah Palin being polarizing, both among Democrats and Republicans, which may well keep her from winning the presidency, or even the primary. It is separately, as an anthropological study, that I so often find fascinating the stated reasons of those who dislike her.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/04/2010 22:23 Comments || Top||

#33  hmmmmm.... Don?
Posted by: Frank G || 12/04/2010 22:25 Comments || Top||

#34  For chrissake, do we like Palin or not? I have even less time than I have patience trying to parse people's class distinction nuances. We do live in the USA, a country built by and founded by poor underdogs. While we're talking fashion, I can spell Brioni, Missoni, De la Renta, Valentino, Dolce, etc. and rip on Mrs. Obama as uncouth as that sounds.

How nuanced is this: that bitch Palin can out-talk the majority of people she's been put up against. I do not care if she goes on the podium in duck boots and hunting camo, with a little red mini skirt.
Posted by: Fire and Ice || 12/04/2010 22:34 Comments || Top||

#35  I actually used to learn a thing or two at Rantburg before you totally corrupted the intent of this forum.

Obviously 'class' wasn't one of them.
Posted by: Pappy || 12/04/2010 22:58 Comments || Top||

#36  Sarah's (and many other's women's shoes/boots/etc) are from Zappo's___ My daughter loves this company. Those red spiked heels are very hot IMHO.
Posted by: pan || 12/04/2010 23:02 Comments || Top||

#37  Yes, trailing wife, I should know my place and let my betters decide for me if hooker shoes are fashionable or not.
Posted by: Black Charlie Chinemble5313 || 12/04/2010 23:52 Comments || Top||


Save O by Pushing Him Left
WaPo editorial page, next to the "Palin is bad, but not deserving of the horrible treatment by the GOP blue bloods" - hitting two conservative birds with one stone.
To many liberals and progressives, the president's unwillingness to veto any measure that includes continued tax relief for billionaires is the last straw, building on a record of spinelessness that includes his escalation of the war in Afghanistan, abandonment of a public option for health-care reform, refusal to prosecute those who tortured in Iraq or lied us into that war, and unwillingness to tax carbon emissions.
One sentence. I know it seems like three, but I checked!
But there is a real way to save the Obama presidency: by challenging him in the 2012 presidential primaries with a candidate who would unequivocally commit to a well-defined progressive agenda and contrast it with the Obama administration's policies. Such a candidacy would be pooh-poohed by the media, if he/she were ever able to rise to the level of recognition by the media, but if it gathered enough popular support - as is likely given the level of alienation among many who were the backbone of Obama's 2008 success - this campaign would pressure Obama toward much more progressive positions and make him a more viable 2012 candidate.
Two, three. WOT money quote next.
The basic platform for such a candidate is clear: Unequivocally call for an immediate end to the presence of U.S. troops, advisers and private U.S.-based security firms in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan, and replace the "war on terror" with a Global Marshall Plan that roots homeland security in a strategy of generosity and concern for the well-being of everyone on the planet.
Four sentences, but trust me, it gets better!
Public officials who would make excellent candidates should they run on this platform include Sens. Russ Feingold, Bernie Sanders, Barbara Mikulski or Al Franken; Reps. Joe Sestak, Maxine Waters, Raul Grijalva, Alan Grayson, Barbara Lee, Dennis Kucinich, Lois Capps, Jim Moran and Lynn Woolsey. Why not Rachel Maddow, Bill Moyers, Susan Sarandon or the Rev. James Forbes? All suggestions need to be part of this critical conversation. What's clear is that we need such a candidate, and the finances to back her or him, very soon.
Eight. Somebody told me that was fair use. I think this guy has a great idea! Go San Fran Nan!
Posted by: Bobby || 12/04/2010 06:34 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wow! That's absolutely insane. I hope the Democrats do that.
Posted by: CincinnatusChili || 12/04/2010 8:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Please do guys. It will make his slaughter in 2012 at the polls so much more probable.
Posted by: DarthVader || 12/04/2010 10:19 Comments || Top||

#3  The Dems should run this candidate against Bambi in the primaries, and run him/her again in the general election. Maybe as a Greenie. Make sure you get the candidate on the ballot in all 57 states.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/04/2010 10:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Idiots who think that because their team won last time, they should get everything they want,and it didn't help that their guy said, "I won. Get over it."

Politics is the art of the possible. Over the past two years the Democrats have accomplished quite a few of their highest priority goals, by using all the classical methods of political chicanery, plus a few new ones invented for the purpose. The only reason the Democrats didn't achieve more is that the public -- which is more conservative than otherwise -- caught on and started fussing.

But Rabbi Michael Lerner has long been more than a bit of a blind idiot. Except when he's being a total idiot; the man is flexible in that way. I guess he's moved on from his shocked discovery that his dear little Progressive friends are flaming antisemites.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/04/2010 10:51 Comments || Top||

#5  I know! Run CA Gov JERRY BROWN with Ralph Nader as his running mate. Please!

/snicker
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/04/2010 10:57 Comments || Top||

#6  I will be getting Clean for Dean up against the wall pig voters. Oh hai, hai I'm here to share with you the story of the Dr. Governor? Yes, that's cool.
Posted by: Zombie Hillary Lover || 12/04/2010 10:58 Comments || Top||

#7  MCKINNEY/SHARPTON 2012
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/04/2010 11:13 Comments || Top||

#8  They could run Kinky Friedman and win, but they never do it.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 12/04/2010 11:27 Comments || Top||

#9  ...this campaign would pressure Obama toward much more progressive positions...

Sporting "Coexist" bumper stickers and boycotting the advertisers on FOX News just ain't cuttin it anymore. The good Rabbi has, shall we say, a more comprehensive strategy. Religious groups pretending to promote one political candidate as a means to advance another may seem a bit duplicitous. But this isn't about moving Obama further left. It's about achieving...uhem..."Social Justice". If say, a self proclaimed Socialist like Bernie Sanders were to run, Obama might not seem as much of...well...a Socialist.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 12/04/2010 12:44 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Kill the Messenger, They Say; But What about the Message?
Posted by: Omaing White7048 || 12/04/2010 16:28 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Criminalizing Free Speech: The Kafkaesque Persecution of Ilya Sobolevskiy
Posted by: tipper || 12/04/2010 06:42 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Our justice system is being destroyed by liberal judges who are attempting to accomodate Islam. Between them and the corrupt AG (personified by Holder) there is little justice left in the system in some regions, with the rest of the nation teetering on the edge.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/04/2010 11:01 Comments || Top||

#2  So, saying in an email that you would “do WHATEVER it takes to eradicate Islam.” is an act of terrorism according to this Judge.

This case should have been laughed out of court - instead Judge David G. Bernthal used it to advocate Sharia Law.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/04/2010 11:29 Comments || Top||

#3  It will be interesting to see how the Appeals court rules.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/04/2010 23:26 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Liam Neeson angers Narnia fans by suggesting Aslan is Mohammed
Liam Neeson has caused controversy by suggesting that Aslan, the Christlike character in C.S. Lewis's Narnia books, could represent the prophet Mohammed or Buddha.

The actor who voices the lion in the film adaptations of the books has angered some fans of the stories, who claim he is distorting Lewis's intentions to be "politically correct".

Aslan the lion features in all seven Narnia books, guiding children away from evil and harm and encouraging them to do good. Lewis was clear that the Aslan was based on Christ, and once wrote of the character: "He is an invention giving an imaginary answer to the question: "What might Christ become like if there really were a world like Narnia?"."

In the climax of the first book, The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, Aslan sacrifices his life to save Narnia, before rising from the dead, a plot which is widely believed to represent the crucifixion and the resurrection.

But ahead of the release of The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, the third Narnia book to be made into a film, next week, Neeson said: "Aslan symbolises a Christlike figure, but he also symbolises for me Mohammed, Buddha and all the great spiritual leaders and prophets over the centuries.

"That's who Aslan stands for as well as a mentor figure for kids -- that's what he means for me."

Walter Hooper, Lewis's former secretary and a trustee of his estate, said that the author would have been angered by Neeson's comments.

He said: "It is nothing whatever to do with Islam. Lewis would have simply denied that. He wrote that 'the whole Narnian story is about Christ'. Lewis could not have been clearer."

Mr Hooper attributed Neeson's remarks to political correctness and a wish to be "very multi-cultural"
Posted by: tipper || 12/04/2010 17:47 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Neeson is a typical entertainment industry cultural idiot, mind rotted by living and working with the cultural relativists in Hollwierd. Alsan is clearly alluded to as Jesus in the books, if you bother to read all of them.

I guess Neeson believes in everything, which means effectively he ultimately believes (latin: credo) nothing at all.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/04/2010 18:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Facts are irrelevant in Hollywood's mind, since replicating and making people believe the non-existent is their business. I have an aunt in Hollywood, and her shock that I DISAGREED with her in MY area of expertise betrays an arrogance that Heaven is sure to answer.

Death is a shark attacking mankind. Confucius, from the beach, would assure us our children would revere our courage. Mohammed is too busy fondling Aisha to notice. Buddah would tell us the shark does not exist. ONLY Jesus Christ gashed himself and jumped into the water to draw the shark off of us.

And people roll their eyes and wonder why I'm such a fanatical Christian...
Posted by: Ptah || 12/04/2010 21:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Obviously he never read the series. Aslan was the christ-like figure while Tash (the bird-god of the desert dweller (and most like Mohammand) - not too sure of the names - I'm drawing this from 10-year-old memory...) was his 'opposite'.

If they weren't to chickensh*t to produce 'A Horse and his Boy' (which was chronologically after Lion / Witch / Wardrobe) it would have been clearly shown. But the way I understand it they skipped that book for fear of offending Muslims.

The association of Aslan with Christ is very explicitly made in "The Last Battle" - the last book of the series.

Not to mention the whole 'Sacrifice oneself for another' part of "The Lion, the Witch, and the wardrobe". I doubt Neeson even viewed the movies....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/04/2010 21:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Not to mention he angered Shiites by notifying figuring the 12th imam in there somewhere.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 12/04/2010 21:54 Comments || Top||

#5  notifying
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 12/04/2010 21:55 Comments || Top||



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