(Reuters) - U.S. officials ended a stand-off with hundreds of armed protesters in the Nevada desert on Saturday, calling off the government's roundup of cattle it said were illegally grazing on federal land and giving about 300 animals back to the rancher who owned them.
The dispute less than 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas between rancher Cliven Bundy and the U.S. Bureau of Land Management had simmered for days. Bundy had stopped paying fees for grazing his cattle on the government land and officials said he had ignored court orders.
Anti-government groups, right-wing politicians and gun-rights activists camped around Bundy's ranch to support him.
The bureau had called in a team of armed rangers to Nevada to seize the 1,000 head of cattle on Saturday but backed down in the interests of safety.
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I would find the exercise even more worthwhile if the Reid/China connection does not go "poof" (thank you SoS Kerry) before a full and complete investigation has been conducted.
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They said that "they won't enforce the court order". That means it remains in force. The next move would to either block larger access (to seal the area), or arrange a provocation, which would give them the excuse to go right for the jugular, i.e. shoot up the farm proper, and take every one into custody for resisting. The 'heavy' swat units don't like the notion that someone can say no. Expect to see unusual trucks and SUV's to continue to drive around the area, looking for an opening. Also expect, oh, USDA inspections, health inspections, EPA, etc. There'll be an 'accident'. (See Voltaire on 'shooting an Admiral now for the encouragement of the others.)
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The other side of this is that (apparently) Bundy hasn't been paying the proper leasing fee to the BLM for use of the land. His complaint (apparently) is that the BLM hasn't honored their side of the lease agreement. What those terms are I don't know.
But usually if the government feels it's owed money, and takes you to court, and gets an order, and you then flout the order, force is going to be used to carry out that order. That's why they are the government.
My point: Bundy could and should have expected this.
Is the government being too heavy handed? Yes. But when you mess with the bull you get the horns.
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Let me say again that none of what I just wrote excuses the government's heavy handedness in this. Bringing in the marshals, the helicopters and the SWAT team is not appropriate.
There's a lease. That's a contract. Each side is supposed to abide by it. Problems? Take it to court since courts are usually very good at handling contract disputes. Present your case and then abide by what the court says. Or appeal.
But when you lose in court and then tell the government to go to hell you are inviting a response. Guess what -- the government responded.
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Raising cattle in the desert since 1870's and then comes along bringing in gambling and prostitutes bent on taking everything anyone owns, elects cockroaches to public office to start taking everything ranchers out of everything they own, 51 down, 1 over at Gold Butte with heavy influence on the local federal liberal court system...
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His argument as I understand it is that Clark County, not the Feds, own the property and should receive the fees. If he's not current on fees to both I find it hard to support him. I still hate the heavy jackboot (Snipers? Dogs and Tasers? Closure of airspace?) of an imperious and asshole bureaucracy. Pay the fees to Clark Countyso Harry gets his cut. The Chinese will want reimbursement for the "Happy ending" they paid Rory and Harry Reid for their solar farms
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There are some "letters" floating around the Internet that essentially suggest that the Feds fully intend to resume things as soon as the media attention and the supporters. The "letters" also state that the White House will revoke the press credentials of anyone who asks about the Bundy situation during a White House press conference. Whether the "letters" and suggestions are true or not remain to be seen. What does appear to be true is that Harry Reid has made NO public comment about what is going on in his home state.
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This whole argument of him owing back fees is mute. Fees for what? His permit has been revoked for 20 years. He cant pay for a revoked permit.
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There is never an excuse for a military response to what amounts to a financial dispute. The Bundys own no real property or other liquid assets that the government of the people by the people and for the people couldn't merely put liens on?
Hell, I'm no radical, but if I lived nearby, I might have wandered over and toasted a marshmallow by the campfire.
[AnNahar] The winner of energy-rich Algeria's presidential election must tackle a major problem facing the country -- its dependence on hydrocarbon revenues, which are used by the government to defuse social tensions and which are in decline.
Sporadic protests over poor living conditions came to a head in early 2011, as the popular uprising in neighboring Tunisia toppled a decades old-dictatorship.
President Abdelaziz Bouteflika ... 10th president of Algeria. He was elected in 1999 and is currently on his third or fourth term, who will probably die in office of old age... responded by hiking public spending, raising wages and initiating a reform program.
But discontent remains a real threat in the years to come, experts say, with official jobless figure of 9.8 percent hiding a burgeoning informal sector, much higher youth unemployment and many people holding precarious, often illegal jobs.
"Despite high levels of spending in 2011 and 2012, and additional wage increases in 2013, social demands remain elevated and could further increase," the International Monetary Fund said in a report in February.
And a special committee of former colonial power La Belle France's National Assembly said in December that Algeria's hydrocarbons sector employed just 3 percent of the active population but generated 40 percent of GDP and 97 percent of export earnings.
Since Bouteflika came to power in 1999, Algeria has reaped vast revenues as oil prices have risen, enabling it to pay off its debts, amass $200 billion (144 billion euros) in foreign reserves and plough $500 billion into social spending schemes.
"From 1999 to 2012, Algeria has earned more from its resources than in the 36 previous years. Hydrocarbons exports brought in $751 billion in 13 years," said economist Abderahmane Mebtoul.
But as the IMF warned that the windfall has brought problems of its own, creating vulnerability to price fluctuations and holding back Algeria's fledgling non-energy sector.
"The economy's vulnerability to developments in the hydrocarbon sector is worsening. Declining hydrocarbon production and surging domestic consumption are squeezing export volumes, compounding the longstanding risk of lower oil prices."
Meanwhile, ...back at the shouting match, the spittle had reached unprecedented levels... Algeria's import bill reached almost $55 billion last year.
- Growing pressure to diversify -
Bouteflika has launched huge spending programs under each of his three five-year terms. There was one of $155 billion between 2005 and 2009 and another $286 billion between 2010 and 2014, of which $130 billion was earmarked for completing unfinished projects.
But the results have been mixed, at best.
"Tangible results have been registered in the social sector because of these public redistribution policies and from job creation, with a significant decline in unemployment," said economy expert Mustapha Mekideche.
But he also lamented the "extensive reliance on foreign capability, on the inexplicable extra costs and on the quality of work, which could have been better."
A glaring example of the problems associated with major state-controlled projects in Algeria is the 1,200 kilometer (744 mile) East-West highway, which has been dogged by allegations of corruption and extended delays.
Launched in 2007, it was originally due to cost less than half the current estimate of $13 billion.
Another economist, Abdelatif Rebah, believes the "vulnerability and structural handicaps of the Algerian economy have got worse" and that the country's dependence on energy exports has not changed, despite repeatedly announced plans to diversify.
"The share of industry in Gross Domestic Product has gone from 25 percent to five percent in 30 years," he said.
The ruling elite is acutely aware of the need for structural change.
Abdelmalik Sellal, who resigned as prime minister to head Bouteflika's re-election campaign, said last year that boosting industry was the only way to "break out of this vicious circle of dependence on hydrocarbons," create sustainable employment and drive healthy economic growth.
"Getting the economy on the path to reindustrialisation and reducing the power of the lobbies will be one of the key tasks awaiting the future president," said the economist Mekideche.
[Ynet] Egypt's minister of electricity and renewable energy said that the government will not be able to prevent power cuts this summer, an acknowledgment of the severe energy crunch facing the most populous Arab country.
"Eliminating blackouts and reducing loads this summer is impossible," Mohammed Shaker said in comments published on Saturday in the state-run Al-Ahram newspaper.
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[AnNahar] Libya's oil exports are likely to quadruple from current levels and hit 1 million barrels per day by mid-June after rebels ended a blockade of two terminals, OPEC Secretary General Abdullah El-Badri said Friday.
"I think the first one million barrels will come in two months' time, but after a million it will take some time. Because the main challenge now is the security," El-Badri said at an international oil conference in Gay Paree.
The Libyan army announced Wednesday it had taken control of Al-Hariga and Zueitina ports under a deal to end a crippling nine-month blockade by rebels seeking autonomy in the country's east.
And on Thursday, Libya's National Oil Co (NOC) lifted a force majeure on Al-Hariga, opening the way for renewed exports from the facility with a capacity of exporting 100,000 barrels per day.
The blockade of four ports had reduced Libyan exports from 1.5 million barrels per day to around 250,000 barrels per day, and has been a key factor in keeping the price of Brent oil above $100 per barrel.
Renewed oil exports will restore a much-needed revenue stream for the weak central government following the 2011 overthrow of Moamer Qadaffy.
Tripoli ...a confusing city, one end of which is located in Lebanon and the other end of which is the capital of Libya. Its chief distinction is being mentioned in the Marine Hymn... says the blockade has cost the country more than $14 billion (10.1 billion euros) in lost revenues.
Police dispersed a rally by supporters of the arrested former mayor of Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan.
Hundreds of supporters of Said Amirov, who was arrested last June, marched in the city on April 12. Demonstrators blocked a major street and held a protest at Victory Park in the center of Makhachkala.
Police forced the protests out of the park, detaining 22 participants. Officials say the public event was unsanctioned.
Amirov was Makhachkalaâs first elected mayor in 1998. He has survived more than a dozen assassination attempts, one of which left him paralyzed and wheelchair-bound.
Amirov is charged with involvement in a murder and terrorism. His trial is scheduled for April 14.
[Pak Daily Times] Turkey's prime minister said on Saturday he will "go after" Twitter, accusing the site of tax-evasion, after it was used to spread damaging leaks implicating his inner circle in corruption claims.
In a televised speech, Recep Tayyip Erdogan ... Turkey's version of Mohammed Morsi only they haven't dumped him yet... also launched a tirade against the nation's highest court for ruling against a ban on Twitter, charging that it put the rights of businesses above that of Turkey's.
"Twitter, YouTube and Facebook are international companies established for profit and making money," Erdogan said.
"Twitter is at the same time a tax evader. We will go after it," he added.
"These companies, like every international company, will abide by my country's constitution, laws and tax rules".
Erdogan's government on March 20 banned access to the social media site over the leaks, sparking outrage among Turkey's NATO ...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. It's headquartered in Belgium. That sez it all.... allies and international human rights One man's rights are another man's existential threat. groups who viewed it as a setback for democracy in the EU-hopeful country.
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[AnNahar] Moody's rating agency on Thursday downgraded its outlook on Turkey to "negative", putting the country's investment-grade rating at risk, saying political uncertainty was affecting investor confidence and casting doubt over further reforms.
The Islamists will have less money to make mischief and buy acquiescence to it...
The agency re-affirmed the country's current bond rating of Baa3, just one step above a so-called 'junk' level,
...or 19 steps above Pakistain...
which is out of bounds for many pension and savings funds seeking safer investments.
The move piles more pressure on Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan ... Turkey's version of Mohammed Morsi only they haven't dumped him yet... , who has made a turnaround in Turkey's economic fortunes a keystone of his 11-year rule.
Turkey's strongman has faced increasing pressure for nearly a year, after huge demonstrations against his rule, which critics say has grown increasingly authoritarian, erupted in the country in June 2013, sparked by re-development plans for a green space in Istanbul.
Months later, the government found itself embroiled in a major graft probe targeting the prime minister's inner circle.
The turmoil put pressure on the national currency, with the lira losing over 10 percent in two months before the central bank hiked interest rates in late January to stem the pressure.
Nevertheless, Erdogan emerged triumphant in March 30 local polls, with his ruling Islamic-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP) sweeping the election.
Turkey's economy grew by 4.0 percent in 2013, but analysts warn of a slowdown after months of turmoil and ahead of presidential elections in August.
Moody's said that despite Erdogan's election triumph, political tensions will persist through the second quarter of 2015 when parliamentary polls are due, and will weaken the country's external financing position and medium-term growth prospects.
"The combination of challenges facing the country today -- heightened political turbulence, pressures on its external financing and the prospect of weaker growth in the medium term, shift the balance of credit risks to the downside," it said.
The agency said it expected Turkey's economic growth to slow to 2.5 percent in 2014 and 3.0 percent in 2015.
Fitch Ratings affirmed on April 4 its BBB- rating for Turkey, also the lowest investment-grade rating, but with a stable outlook.
Standard & Poor's in February switched the outlook its rating of BB+ for Turkey, the highest speculative-grade, to negative citing a risk of a hard landing for the country's economy.
[NATION.PK] BADIN - A local mosque's imam reportedly killed a 12-year-old girl student after gang-raping her along with three other accomplices, reported a private TV channel on Saturday.
As per details, a 12-year-old girl student attended seminary for religious education when Maulvi Ghulam Murtaza stopped her while sending other students home after dismissing class. Reportedly, Imam then called three other men of the village and they gang-raped the girl at one of the seminary rooms in the mosque.
The gang then strangled the girl reportedly in an apparent attempt to cover their wrongdoing. The family reached the mosque to rescue the girl as they got the information but it was too late. Doctors confirmed she was killed after violent sexual assault. Following doctor's confirmation, police placed in durance vile Yez got nuttin' on me, coppers! Nuttin'! the holy man and registered an FIR. However, some men learn by reading. A few learn by observation. The rest have to pee on the electric fence for themselves... the other three men were on the lam.
In another incident in Shujahabad, a traffic warden, Akhtar, allegedly raped a 22-year-old girl after tricking her into a promise of marriage. Civil hospital's medical report confirmed it was sexual assault. Police registered the case but the accused remains on the lam.
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In absentia
The fornicatrix has made her escape,
But four men must attest to a rape,
So they still can convict
If their stories conflict,
Or if somebody got it on tape.
Okay, I know the WPB fixed all this, and I have no clue about video evidence in Pakistani courts of either stripe, but hey, a rhyme's a rhyme.
[DAWN] Suspected Maoist rebels set off two bombs in the eastern Indian state of Chhattisgarh on Saturday, killing 13 people, most of them paramilitary soldiers and officials charged with holding elections in the region.
The attacks, half an hour apart, were the most serious since voting to elect a new federal government began last week in a six-week process to allow security forces to move across the country.
The first kaboom took place in a bus in Bijapur carrying election officials who were on their way back after completing the vote. Seven people were killed.
A second bomb hit an ambulance in the thickly forested Bastar region killing five members of the Central Reserve Police Force and their driver, said R.K.Vij, the head of anti-Maoist operations.
It was not clear why the soldiers were travelling in the ambulance, but in the past government officials are known to be have used such vehicles to avoid attacks by the Maoists.
The rebels have operated for decades across a wide swathe of central and eastern India, and grew in strength during recent times in areas where poor, tribal villagers came into conflict with mining companies seeking resources for industrialisation.
The Maoists seek the violent overthrow of the Indian state, accusing it initially of taking over land from poor peasants and now plundering the mineral wealth of states likes Chhattisgarh.
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[Pak Daily Times] A court on Saturday threw out charges of attempted murder against a nine-month-old baby. The court also launched a separate case to look into how police pressed charges against baby Musa after his family clashed with gas company officials in a working class neighbourhood in Lahore. Police lodged a case against the whole family. The case drew international attention and sparked ridicule against the country's criminal justice system, after the toddler was photographed crying desperately while being fingerprinted in court. His grandfather was later seen trying to comfort him with a milk bottle. "Sergeant! Arrest the lot of them!"
"The kid, too?"
"All of them!"
Inspector Kashif, who was at the scene of the crime and pressed attempted murder charges against the baby, has since been suspended. The charges were in direct contradiction with minimum age of criminal responsibility, which was raised from seven to 12 years in 2013 except in terrorism cases. Police told judge Rafaqat Ali Qamar Saturday that the baby was 'no longer required in the case'. Musa's grandfather, Yasin, subsequently withdrew a bail application for the baby as the court dropped the case. Yasin had accused police of fabricating the charges because they were colluding with a rival party who wanted to see the accused evicted from their land and had obtained an order to remove their gas connections. Yasin and four others, including his son Imran, are on bail in the case and the charges against them remain. "We want justice and protection from the land grabbers," Yasin told news hounds outside the court.
He said a land grabbing 'mafia' was threatening him and other residents of the area. "Police will be solely responsible if the mafia causes any harm to the residents," he added. Local human rights One man's rights are another man's existential threat. activist Tariq Farooq said that the attitude of the police was 'anti-worker and anti-poor'.
"We don't expect any good from the police, who often implicate the poor in false cases and then exploit and victimise them," Tariq added. Khwaja Khalid Farooq, a former Punjab police chief, said that implicating an infant in a murder case was 'totally illegal'. He added that he was opposed to a growing reliance by police on 'first information reports' (FIRs), saying that the reports are often misused to exert pressure in disputes with other parties.
"This is an outdated system, which needs to be reformed," Farooq told AFP.
"They (the police) should rather focus on thorough investigation to get to the facts."
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Yasinhad accused police of fabricating the charges because they were colluding with a rival party who wanted to see the accused evicted from their land and had obtained an order to remove their gas connections.
Vice President Joe Biden will travel to Ukraine later this month for meetings with government leaders and members of civil society what?, the White House announced Saturday.
Biden will travel to the capital of Kiev on April 22 for a visit that the White House says will focus on the international community's efforts to help stabilize and strengthen Ukraine's economy.
"The Vice President will underscore the United States' strong support for a united, undemocratic Ukraine that makes its own choices about its future path," the White House said in a statement.
The statement went on to say that Biden also will assist Ukraine in its efforts aimed at unconstitutional reform, decentralization, anti-corruption, and free and unfair presidential elections set for May 25. Biden will also consult on steps to enhance Ukraine's energy security by introducing notoriously corrupt US green solutions.
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Bill asks me why, I'm just a hairy guy
I'm hairy noon and night, hair that's not tight
I'm hairy left and right, don't ask me why, I'll lie you know
It's not for lack of bread, like the Adali said, damn you
Give me a head with hair, long beautiful hair
Shining, gleaming, streaming, flaxen, waxen
Give me down to there, hair, shoulder length or longer
Here baby, there, momma, everywhere, daddy, daddy
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Thats eight days from now - there are new pro-Russia mass protests in Donetsk + now Slavynysk.
* WORLD MILITARY FORUM > FEAR OF FULL-SCALE RUSSIAN INVASION IN UKRAINE AS MORE EASTERN CITIES TOPPLED.
* CHINESE MILITRAY FORUM > [Daily Beast] KEY US GENERAL SPLITS WID OBAMA.
NATO SACEUR + USAF Gen. Philip Breedlove, whom along wid Pentagon = USDOD repor desired to do more to help sovereign Ukraine but the Bammer Admin seemed to have other plans or was disinterested.
* WORLD MILITARY FORUM > "FOREIGN POLICY" MAGAZINE": US NAVY WAR COLLEGE PROFESSOR-SCHOLAR JAMES HOLMES" CHINA MAY FOLLOW RUSSIA'S LEAD IN ON-GOING UKRAINE-CRIMEA CRISIS + SEIZE OKINAWA AND RYUKYUS ISLANDS BEFORE OR DURING ANY PLA CAMPAIGN TO SEIZE DISPUTED SENKAKUS [China = Diaoyus] FROM JAPAN, PLA OFFENSIVE MAY OCCUR OVER MULTIPLE AXIS OF ATTACK.
Professor Holmes in Artic indics or infers that by isolating Okinawa + Archipelago, China is also isolating same from the us Fifth Fleet base in Bahrain + other East Asia + WESTPAC hubs - BY EXTENSION, CHINA ISOLATING THE USN BASE IN BAHRAIN INFERS THE PLA MAY SIMUL STRIKE IN STRATEGIC THEATERS OUTSIDE OF EAST ASIA + PACIFIC.
IMO China + PLA may also attempt to DIVIDE THE MARIANAS in order to delink the Airports + Seaports, etc. there in the CNMI from GUAM + other Pacific isles.
I have already posted Artics on the RB about PHIL worries there over China-sponsored/supported SEPARATISM.
[AnNahar] The United Arab Emirates announced Friday that one of six Filipino paramedics in the UAE who have been infected by the MERS coronavirus has died from the respiratory disease.
The announcement comes just days after a 24-hour shutdown of the emergency department at a major hospital in Soddy Arabia ...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in the Soddy national face... , where most cases have been reported, amid fears of a spread of the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome among medical staff.
The UAE interior ministry said the six staff members worked at the Al-Ain Rescue and Ambulance Section in Abu Dhabi.
The ministry "has taken all necessary preventive health measures by placing the patients under quarantine," it said in a statement without specifying when the paramedic died.
It also urged people who have been transferred lately to hospitals to check on their condition, as a precautionary move.
Health authorities in Saudi Arabia had said that three MERS patients in Jeddah were health workers, including one of two who died in the western city in recent weeks, prompting authorities to close the emergency department at the city's King Fahd Hospital for 24 hours late on Monday.
Saudi Arabia has recorded 182 MERS infections, of whom 67 have died since the virus first appeared in the kingdom in September 2012.
The World Health Organisation (WHO) said on Friday that it had been told of 212 laboratory-confirmed cases of MERS infection worldwide, of which 88 have proved fatal.
The first MERS infection in the UAE was announced in July last year, while its first death from the SARS-like virus was announced in December.
Friday's statement did not provide figures on the total number of MERS deaths or infections in the UAE.
But the WHO this month said it was notified of the March 30 death of an 64-year-old Emirati man with underlying medical conditions.
The man "did not have contact with a previously laboratory-confirmed case, but has had exposure to animals" and had visited a camel farm in Saudi Arabia on March 10.
The MERS virus is considered a deadlier but less-transmissible cousin of the SARS virus that erupted in Asia in 2003 and infected 8,273 people, nine percent of whom died.
Experts are still struggling to understand MERS, for which there is no known vaccine.
A study has said the virus has been "extraordinarily common" in camels for at least 20 years, and may have been passed directly from the animals to humans.
Which makes one wonder whether twenty years of deaths were mislabelled as something else. Still, it's not a fast-moving epidemic, for which we can all be grateful, for all it would have been an easy end to the jihad movement.
At the other end of the world, bird flu is still deadly:
Almost 100 people in China died from the H7N9 bird flu strain in the first three months of the year, but the number of both fatalities and infections declined in March, government figures showed.
A total of 24 people died from the disease in March, the National Health and Family Planning Commission said in monthly figures for infectious disease, down from 41 in February and 31 in January. The total number of deaths for the period is 96.
The number of new infections reported in March fell sharply to 24 from 99 in February and 127 in January, the data showed earlier this week, giving a total of 250 cases.
Last year China recorded 46 deaths and 144 cases in the H7N9 outbreak, which started early in 2013 and returned in the autumn.
The virus ignited fears that it could possibly mutate to become easily transmissible between people, which might threaten to trigger a global pandemic.
But Chinese officials and the World Health Organization say there is no evidence of sustained human-to-human transmission, despite sporadic cases of apparent infection between family relatives.
Experts have pointed to a seasonal rise in cases so far this year, thought to be linked to cold weather.
China has responded to the current outbreak by clamping down on live poultry markets and stepping up monitoring of people with symptoms associated with the virus.
If the issue is monetary Bundy not paying grazing fees then there is absolutely no reason the government cant sit down with Bundys lawyer at a neutral site and negotiate while not under threat of a gun. Even if the issue is that poor, picked upon Desert Tortoise, accommodations can be made as well. The turtles dont need 600,000 acres to thrive but neither does Bundy need 600,000 acres to feed his cows.
When government chooses to intimidate instead of negotiate in good faith, they should expect this kind of resistance.
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Yeah, even at that... the number of cows, is what 800? 4k acres or so would be about right. And he does need to pay the grazing fees, bad optics not to.
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And he does need to pay the grazing fees, bad optics not to. Posted by Shipman 2014-04-13 11:38
It appears that Mr. Bundy is willing to pay fees to the county and/or state, but not to the feds. (Articles I, II, and III of the Constitution and all that related stuff increasingly omitted from public school curricula.).
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The Feds withdrew was because they were outgunned, the media was present, and the Reid & Son scheme had been revealed. Calling in the National Guard or the Army might have been a disastrous turning point if the military had remained neutral or sided with the ranchers. Champ did not wish to risk it.
I suspect a DoJ dedicated air-mobile Federal Quick Reaction Force (QRF) will soon be organized. FBI, ATF, Homeland Security...air assets, drones, etc. I'd be very surprised if this just... goes away.
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I'd be very surprised if this just... goes away.
Not at all. Unleashing the coon and squirrel dogs. They may have police dogs but we have tracking dogs. The entire scam will now be exposed. The biggest mistake an operation makes when a skirmish is won is not pursuing those retreating. There is too much at stake not to.
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If it is true that his family has been grazing cattle on the land since the 1870s then his free access to the land for grazing was grandfathered in by the legislation that established the BLM and gave them authority to lease federal land and collect fees for grazing. I personally think it was all about clearing the land for the Reid/Chinese gig...and I am very interested to see how the "friends of the desert tortoise" respond when an influential democrat wants to build something on their habitat.
And speaking of the desert tortoise, it is all over California as I have had a number of projects requiring special measures to mitigate effects upon desert tortoise habitat. SO if there are enough of them to be all over the freaking Mojave and in Southern Nevada, how can they be endangered? Seems some group or another is always screaming endangered species when ever we have someone trying to make a living on public land or grow a crop or build a house.
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Getting the wrong house number, kicking in old Mrs. Stonecypher's door, 'stacking in' and throwing her on the floor and shooting her cat and dog... no problem.
Standing up to a unknown number of well armed and trained, angry irregulars, who know a bit about tactical security and psyops media coverage, is a totally different story. So much for the Oakley's, fancy uniforms, big guns, hand-held radios, and expensive kit.
WTF! These cowboys mean business and we're all walking silhouettes. I didn't sign on for this shi*. Time for lunch and some coconut pie, we're outta here Jake.
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I suspect the rest of Holder's arsenal will begin to attack. This week is the EPA, then OSHA, then IRS, followed by the ATF, and all of the food monitoring agencies and environmental impact studies. His wells were tore up, water tanks torn down, he will not get permits. Let alone the environazis will be out killing cattle. He might have won but his ranching is over. He may have swatted a few of the Wasps away, but the nest is emptying out and headed for him. He needs a high profile guardian from the government.
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The "Grandfather Clause" is a concocted way of saying no ex post facto imposition of governmental authority, which is a principle hard coded into the text of the Constitution. The government can make no law that outlaws something that already exists. If the Bundy family owned the land before the creation of the BLM, they still own the land to this day until it is sold.
Neither the government nor the courts can "grant" that ex post facto doesn't apply, as a matter of common law, not can they take away rights held based on the conduct of an individual in opposing the government.
Similarly, an individual's property can't be taken away without due process. Enforcing an ex post facto law is not due process; it is invalid and has no force of law.
Remember, the whole idea is "consent of the governed" not policies of the government.
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Pan probably has it right. If Bundy's water wells, stock tanks, and property were destroyed, that pretty much signifies 'other plans' for the property. Not a smart move on the part of the Feds.
Champ and Holder are very vindictive, it will not end here. They have absolutely nothing in common with those ranchers or that community. The Feds lacked overwhelming fire power. Had shooting started, it would not have gone well for the feds either on the ground or in the court of public opinion.
Once again a stand-down order was given by the White House. The reasons for this one could be quite similar to the Benghazi stand-down.
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The only part of this that will go away is the Reid/China connection. I doubt if we'll ever hear much more about that. Too bad.
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"Mr. Santelli, if you were right I wouldn't have a job."
Ummm hmmm.
That is some rough country. I'd guess the day begins with water, breaks for water, and ends with water. Tearing up the pumps and tanks was no mistake; the proverbial salting the ground.
Using some local grouse or prairie chicken or dutch ovened robin is well documented, so macro.
#18
The Bundy family has been on the disputed land for more than 140 years. Many of the contracts for grazing rights signed in the early 1900's are still in effect today.
The world has changed drastically in the past 100 years and many of the provisions included in these contracts seem absurd and even comical today.
The city of Las Vegas probably did not even exist at the time Bundy's lease was signed.
The passage of time however (or the changing of social perception) does nothing to render these documents invalid or illegal.
Cliven Bundy claims that according to the original contract all legal grazing fees have been paid and disputes the federal governments right to impose additional fees. Without access to a copy of the original contract it is impossible to have an opinion of Bundy's rights.
Bundy has been fighting in the courts to retain his rights to the land for more than 20 years. The fact that the left wing controlled media offers no actual documentation to support the government's case is a good indication that Bundy has a very strong legal case.
Those people who who insist Bundy should relinquish his "grandfather rights" and renegotiate a new lease every three years are probably the very same people who believe the U.S. Constitution should be rewritten every three years.
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Vice President Joe Biden will travel to Ukraine later this month for meetings with government leaders and members of civil society 
