[France24] At least five people were killed and 40 others, including off-duty police officers, arrested Saturday after gunmen stormed a South African church, reportedly over a leadership dispute, the national police commissioner said.
According to a statement by South Africa's top police officer, General Khehla John Sitole: "Four people were found shot and burnt to death in a car while a fifth victim, a security guard, was also fatally shot in his car while he was apparently attending this complaint."
The unusually violent incident took place early Saturday when an armed group stormed the International Pentecostal Holiness Church in Zuurbekom, on the western outskirts of Johannesburg, "indicating that they were coming to take over the premises," police said.
The church has had multiple succession-related clashes that have been widely reported by local media since multimillionaire leader and founder Comforter Glayton Modise died in 2016.
Sitole said police responded to reports of "shooting and an alleged hostage situation," and seized more than 34 firearms including five rifles, 16 other guns and 13 pistols.
"I am certain that the speedy response by the joint security forces has averted what could have been a more severe blood bath", Sitole said.
[Breitbart] Fox 35 reports that the homeowner was playing video games when he heard glass breaking just before 1:00 a.m. He retrieved a gun and shot one suspect in a hallway, then fired again when a second suspect allegedly appeared in the hallway with a gun.
Sheriff Chris Nocco says the suspect fired his gun, then it jammed. The homeowner shot him. Then a third suspect appeared in the hallway. The homeowner shot the third suspect as well.
The homeowner’s gun then jammed and he went to grab another gun. When he returned he saw that the third suspect had gotten up and fled the scene.
The Tampa Bay Times reports that the first gun the homeowner retrieved was a Glock 19 and the second was a Kriss Vector 10mm semi-automatic rifle.
Two of the three suspects died at the scene. The third was hospitalized.
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Bad maint and crappy handloads (resulting in heavy leading of the barrel) is the main combination I have heard of in the few Glock failures that I know of.
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Limp-wristing can do it too, at least with a Glock 34 9mm with P+ ammo.
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Is limp-wristing anything like shooting the gun sideways like the cool hoods do on television and in the movies? I seem to recall that causes jamming, too.
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/\ Gamers know better TW. I'm sticking with untested ammo or a bad magazine. In the confusion and possible poor lighting, he could have accidentally ejected a magazine. Without a magazine, the shooting stops fairly rapidly.
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Common w/Glocks n 9mm. Goes to the basics - stance, grip, sight alignment, trigger control. Primary issue is improper grip. Slide is "light" and w/9mm combined w/improper grip - slide does not go all the way the rear causing failure to feed.
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Thank you for making Bankok Billy’s link clickable, Skidmark. I read and watched.
Gamers know better TW.
Being neither gamer nor gun afficianado, my ignorance is inestimable. Thank you for lessening it, Besoeker. Now trailing daughter #2 and her darling tall husband won’t smile gently over my head when the subject comes up.
This is huge. Ghislaine Maxwell was one of the biggest users and moderators on Reddit. Being a moderator of /r/worldnews and /r/technology is like being royalty. The fact that the account suddenly stopped posting is a smoking gun. With a link to www.removeddit.com instead of www.reddit.com in case it gets deleted, which seems likely. https://www.reddit.com/user/maxwellhill - Moderator/Lead Moderator of many huge subs like r/worldnews and r/technology
- Posts nearly every day for 14 years up until Ghislaine Maxwell's arrest
Edit: Apparently people care about internet points a lot so in case it wasn't obvious, this is a collection of stuff from several anonymous threads that popped up today, I just collated it. Do not credit or plan to assassinate me
Edit 2: https://i.imgur.com/2k2XV1F.png bruh That last one is sick but it's right in line with the pedophile comments by elites that we've seen published. Tony Podesta had statues of Jeffrey Dahmer's headless victims.
Ick. Some people should not have been issued imaginations, if they’re going to waste them like that.
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Dunno why, but this has been in my brain lately:
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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Since there was undoubtedly extensive surveillance on her banking access, I imagine others funded her money needs or were surrogates or couriers for accounts she accessed around the world. They need to be identified and turned if this is legitimately a criminal in the stigation. If not, it’s a political theater exercise before the magic happens and a “mystery “ occurs.
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Not that I care anymore about the Olympics, it just does seem odd that there was state-implementation of a 'wonder drug' or any additive to enhance performance.
But, yeah, the DDR took "the gold" when it came to doping. Just ask Johanna Johann.
[IsraelNationalNews] US President Donald Trump visited the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center today (Saturday) and was seen wearing a mask. This is the first time the president was seen wearing a mask and untill now he refused to be seen doing so in public.
"I'll probably have a mask if you must know", Trump told reporters before the visit, "I'll probably have a mask. I think when you're in a hospital especially in that particular setting, where you are talking to a lot of soldiers, people that in some cases just got off the operating table. I think it's a great thing to wear a mask. I've never been against masks but I do believe they have a time and a place"
According to CNN, Trump's agreement to don a mask in public was the result of heavy "pleading" by aides, who urged the President to set an example for his supporters by wearing a mask on the visit.
More COVID-19 cases in Syria's overcrowded rebel enclave
[Al Ahram] At least two doctors in Syria's opposition-held northwest have been infected with the coronavirus (aka COVID19 or Chinese Plague) ...the twenty first century equivalent of bubonic plague, only instead of killing off a third of the population of Europe it kills 3.4 percent of those who notice they have it. It seems to be fond of the elderly, especially Iranian politicians and holy men... , according to a monitoring group Saturday, raising the total number of cases in the overcrowded rebel enclave to three.
The Syrian opposition and Death Eater groups control the Idlib area, which is home to more than 3 million people, most of them displaced by the war and living in tent camps and overcrowded facilities. Local health facilities have been targeted in Syrian government attacks that have recently displaced nearly a further million people.
The Early Warning and Alert Response Network, which reports on the virus, said the two doctors had been in touch with patient zero, another doctor who works in a hospital in Idlib. The first case was reported on Thursday and the hospital where the doctor works has since suspended its operations and quarantined patients and support staff to carry out testing.
The enclave is now under threat of losing crucial humanitarian aid access. Moves by Russia, a major ally of the Syrian government, at the U.N. Security Council are threatening to shut down border crossing between the rebel-held enclave and The Sick Man of Europe Turkey ...Qatar's satrapy in Asia Minor... A divided U.N. Security Council failed for a second time Friday to agree on extending humanitarian aid deliveries to the area from Turkey as the current U.N. mandate to do so ended.
Russia and China vetoed a U.N. resolution backed by the 13 other council members that would have maintained two crossing points from Turkey for six months. A Russian-drafted resolution that would have authorized just one border crossing in the area for a year failed to receive the minimum nine ``yes'' votes in the 15-member council.
A new vote is expected Saturday. Germany and Belgium, who insist two crossings are critical especially with the first COVID-19 cases being reported in Syria's northwest, circulated a new text that would extend the mandate through the Bab al-Hawa crossing into Idlib for a year and the mandate for the Bab al-Salam crossing _ which Russia wants to eliminate _ for three months to wind up its activities.
Ebola revealed that Medicine had made unproved assumptions for just as long about how far a cough spread. All in all, these terrifying pandemics are terribly useful from a scientific standpoint. One does wonder what unfounded assumption the next one will reveal.
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One does wonder what unfounded assumption the next one will reveal.
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Measles is airborne, and has an R-naught of 12-18. The R-naught for COVID is 3.28 (in Australia). Wikipedia
There seems to be a disconnect. Maybe the science ain't settled.
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How many certainly would be more efficient, my dear, but century-old assumptions are not willingly reexamined. I don’t recall any being reexamined before Ebola exploded on the scene — do you?
[Jpost] Washington blacklisted Xinjiang region's Communist Party Secretary Chen Quanguo, a member of China's powerful Politburo, and three other officials.
The United States on Thursday imposed sanctions on the highest ranking Chinese official yet targeted over alleged human rights ...not to be confused with individual rights, mind you... abuses against the Uighur Moslem minority, a move likely to further ratchet up tensions between Washington and Beijing.
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The gun grabbers did a victory dance when Colt suspended manufacture of AR platform rifles for the civilian market. I'm sure we won't hear a peep out of them about this development.
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How are those fake news polls about Biden leading Trump squared with people voting with their money?
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I find the belief that they only riot because Trump was elected - and will stop if/when he's gone, as the (ahem impressive) belief that covid 19 is DNC plot.
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/\ I wouldn't call COVID-19 a DNC plot (much bigger than those bozos), but they are gleefully participating in everything about it. Just ask Grandma Killer Cuomo, for example.
Notorious Southern Illinois bootlegger Charles 'Charlie' Birger did not invent the automobile. Charlie did however, find it to be a very useful convenyance. (White shirt, seated on running board)
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^Also USA is the only one capable of dealing with China - which is both very powerful and has shown itself to be a rogue state. However, only Trump seems to be aware of the problem.
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Grom, you really think the Dems would/are not going to throw an even bigger temper tantrum when Trump is reelected? Lets just say my Bravo Company AR will hedge my bet.
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The antifa types are certainly going to riot if Trump is reelected, but they're also going to riot if Biden is elected. They're anarchists, and view the identity of the occupant of the Whitehouse as a mere nicety. I'm not sure the less-crazy Democrats have grasped the idea that they'll be the first against the wall.
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#19 No. I just don't think one can appease them - in case somebody thinks one can.
[Red State] On Wednesday, Attorney General William Barr made a rather unexpected statement regarding the treatment of black Americans by the police. He acknowledged that police organizations typically treat black men differently from civilians of other races. perhaps because they know the frequent flyers
In an appearance on ABC News, he discussed the differences in how police handle black men versus others and suggested that it is a "widespread phenomenon." He said, "I do think it is a widespread phenomenon that African American males, in particular, are treated with extra suspicion and maybe not given the benefit of the doubt."
The attorney general stated that the killing of George Floyd at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer demonstrated that the US still has work to do when it comes to repairing relations between law enforcement and the black community. "I think it is wrong if people are not respected appropriately and given their due," he said, "and I think it’s something we have to address."
Barr also explained that Floyd’s killing helped to change his mind on the matter. "Before the George Floyd incident, I thought we were in a good place," he said.
Barr has been criticized for his aggressive response to violent protests in Washington, DC. But he expressed his hope that Floyd’s death would be "a catalyst for the kinds of changes that are needed."
Police brutality against black men has been a subject of contention for years. But after Floyd’s killing, it has received more attention, with some insisting that police officers are shooting and beating black men in the streets daily. Others have argued that there is no real disparity in the way blacks are policed.
There have been several studies on the subject of police brutality. Some have revealed the existence of bias, while others have shown little to no bias. But in 2016, a Harvard study conducted by Roland G. Fryer found no racial bias when it comes to unarmed shootings. But in scenarios in which excessive force was used without resulting in a fatality, there was a clear difference.
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He acknowledged that police organizations typically treat black men differently from civilians of other races.
..he didn't continue the thought that it reflected the gross disparity in crime committed in the black community, mostly against other blacks. Facts be racist don't you know.
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/\ Prediction: Probably not a blinding flash of the obvious, but the Durham investigation results (if are ever completed) will be some of the most heavily redacted of government documents of all time. Spinning everything into the FOIAsphere will give the Deep State much needed additional 'memory hole' time.
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Ref #4: ....he didn't continue the thought that it reflected the gross disparity in crime committed in the black community, mostly against other blacks.
"Widespread phenomenon".....Yes, quite similar to smoker's cough, shortness of breath, emphysema, the long term effects of nicotine, the death of the Marlboro man. Settled science? Hardly. Much more study is obviously required.
[IsraelTimes] Logging 82% of the Paleostinian territory’s COVID-19 cases, the city’s unique social conditions have generated as many infections as Israel’s three hardest-hit cities combined.
Hebron’s unique social composition: many Hebron communities are composed of vast yet closely knit networks of clans, whose membership can run into the tens of thousands.
On Saturday night, after the Paleostinian Authority tallied a record 581 new cases, PA Health Minster Mai al-Kaila told Paleostine TV that the level of coronavirus (aka COVID19 or Chinese Plague) ...the twenty first century equivalent of bubonic plague, only instead of killing off a third of the population of Europe it kills 3.4 percent of those who notice they have it. It seems to be fond of the elderly, especially Iranian politicians and holy men... infections in the West Bank city of Hebron was "out of control."
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[IsraelTimes] Researchers say countries with BCG vaccination programs have fewer coronavirus (aka COVID19 or Chinese Plague) ...the twenty first century equivalent of bubonic plague, only instead of killing off a third of the population of Europe it kills 3.4 percent of those who notice they have it. It seems to be fond of the elderly, especially Iranian politicians and holy men... fatalities when other variables accounted for; caution that research is preliminary, trials needed
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BCG has been used for over 90 years and some countries conduct national vaccination programs of infants to prevent tuberculosis. It is proven to be safe for children and adults, but its effectiveness in adults is in dispute, as is its safety for the elderly.
It's the 90 years part that causes surprise that the MSM and their pharmaceutical-industrial complex masters haven't begun bashing it relentlessly yet.
Oh, wait, Trump hasn't mentioned BCG, so it's o.k.
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Seeing hardware developed like software via rapid iteration, prototyping, and test driven development... thats kinda wild.
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I hate that guy Some Say. always such a pessimist.
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"Some say" = "I'm too lazy to get an actual person and just want to advance an agenda"
Also known as "Critics say..."
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"Some say..." usually means "I believe this personally but don't have the courage to be honest that I am editorializing and not reporting the facts."
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
[Breitbart] Fox 35 reports that the homeowner was playing video games when he heard glass breaking just before 1:00 a.m. He retrieved a gun and shot one suspect in a hallway, then fired again when a second suspect allegedly appeared in the hallway with a gun.
...the twenty first century equivalent of bubonic plague, only instead of killing off a third of the population of Europe it kills 3.4 percent of those who notice they have it. It seems to be fond of the elderly, especially Iranian politicians and holy men...
Ref #9: DNC Plot. 
[Red State] On Wednesday, Attorney General William Barr made a rather unexpected statement regarding the treatment of black Americans by the police. He acknowledged that police organizations typically treat black men differently from civilians of other races.
/\ Prediction: Probably not a blinding flash of the obvious, but the Durham investigation results (if are ever completed) will be some of the most heavily redacted of government documents of all time. Spinning everything into the FOIAsphere will give the Deep State much needed additional 'memory hole' time. 
Ref #4: ....he didn't continue the thought that it reflected the gross disparity in crime committed in the black community, mostly against other blacks.
...the twenty first century equivalent of bubonic plague, only instead of killing off a third of the population of Europe it kills 3.4 percent of those who notice they have it. It seems to be fond of the elderly, especially Iranian politicians and holy men...
...the twenty first century equivalent of bubonic plague, only instead of killing off a third of the population of Europe it kills 3.4 percent of those who notice they have it. It seems to be fond of the elderly, especially Iranian politicians and holy men...
