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A tamale vendor in western Mexico was arrested after police discovered a carved-up body in his home, a spokeswoman for state prosecutors said Wednesday. The vendor denied using human flesh in his food. Only in other peopleâs food, see "herbs" below.
The vendor, who sold tamales from a cart in the city of Morelia in Michoacan state, was arrested Tuesday after police received an anonymous tip that he had a dismembered body in his house, said Lorena Cortes, a spokeswoman for Michoacan state prosecutors. Iâve been to Morelia several times, but never bought any tamales there.
Police entered the home and found body parts, some of which appeared to have been boiled with herbs. A daylong analysis of the tamales found in the house revealed that they were free of human flesh, Cortes said. Herbs, eh? Have we discovered the Colonelâs secret recipe?
But she said Wednesday night that police found other materials that suggested the suspect intended to make a new batch of tamales and that bits of human flesh were discovered nearby. "It is unknown if he planned to use the human meat in new tamales," Cortes said. "More investigation is necessary." The suspect told police he killed the man, who has not yet been identified by police, in a drunken argument on Monday, but he denied using the body parts in his tamales, Cortes said. Herbs and basted in Corona, too. Sounds like some kind of gourmet cannibal cuisine rather than filler for tamales del calle.
The suspectâs name was released but their (sic) were conflicting reports on how it was spelled. (also on how "there" is spelled, evidently).
Cortes said he (the suspect, not Cortes. Who writes this crap anyway?)
was born in Cuernavaca, a colonial city south of Mexico City and that he had worked as a butcher in the Mexican capital before arriving in Morelia seven or eight years ago. "His experience as a butcher helped him cut the body," Cortes said, adding that the suspect may also have sliced up his victim in order to feed the remains to rats as way of destroying the evidence. Exporting to Fallujah, is he?
He was in the custody of state prosecutors who were conducting physiological test Monday night, Cortes said. We donât even want to know.
The story was front-page news in Mexico, where one tabloid headline screamed: "Tamales of Death!" He can always claim that he is an Aztec high priest and is simply practicing his religion, thereby gaining the support of Gringo idiotarians.
Some newspapers ran pictures of a bloody torso on the living room floor and mangled body parts next to a cooking pot. Tamale sales have fallen by approximately 100%...
Tamales are a typical Mexican meal, often eaten at breakfast. They can contain almost any ingredients -- often pork or chicken -- or expired drunks
buried inside cornmeal and wrapped in corn husks or banana leaves. "People are very dismayed because in this city, the culinary tradition of the tamale is very important," Cortes said. Not for long, Iâll wager, unless they start catering to a highly specialized tourist niche.
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ha! see these are kind of thing im never have to wory about and you guy think the joke on me. im going to the mosk in a bit to ask some qestion about those koran verse then im going to go celebrate earth day. im trying to find movie i not see in years call god bless the beast and the children.
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A 74-year-old woman survived an attack by a nearly 10-foot-long alligator that bit her on the leg and arm and dragged her into a lake. Jane C. Keefer was stable and in good condition at HealthPark Medical Center early Thursday, hospital officials said. Police said Keefer was attacked at about 8 p.m. Wednesday as she was gardening near the bank behind her home. Bitten first on the leg, Keefer was able to fight the alligator off, Sanibel Police Chief Bill Tomlinson said. The reptile lunged at her a second time, biting her arm and dragging her into the water, before her husband, William, was able to help her get away, said Lar Gregory, an investigator with the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. Authorities captured the alligator at 10:45 p.m. behind Keeferâs home. It will be destroyed. "This is the kind of gator that will kill you," said trapper John French. One tough Florida granny there. Reminds me of an old Tom Petty single.
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This lady deserves a new purse, made from the finest alligator leather -- and for her husband, a new belt, pair of shoes, and a wallet...
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Police said Keefer was attacked at about 8 p.m. Wednesday as she was gardening near the bank behind her home.
this another good example peple encroching on the animal teritory and then kill the inocent animal when it fight back! im bet the aligator living there first and now they kill it!
While a section of the Western media continues to predict an âexplosion of the Arab streetâ, it is possible that Arab, and Muslim politics in general, may be seeking other, more institutionalized, forms of expression. Starting this year, the Muslim world has witnessed a string of conferences, all devoted to the issue of democratization. Some of these conferences, in Kuala-Lumpur, the Malaysian capital, in Istanbul, Turkeyâs cultural and business center, in the Yemeni capital Sanaa, and in the Egyptian Mediterranean port of Alexandria, for example, have come out with clear statements that democratic reform is the only way for out for Muslim nations caught in âan historic quagmireâ.
Most have said something along the lines of "No, no! Never!"
The issue will be at the center of another conference next month to be held in Jordan under the auspices of the Davos-based World Economic Forum. After that the issue of how best to guide the Muslim world toward reform will be discussed at the NATO summit in Istanbul and during the G-8 summit to be held in the United States in June. This is not the first time that Muslims identify democracy as a panacea for their political, social and cultural ills. Many such conferences were held in the 19th and 20th centuries which also witnessed the short-lived victory of democratic forces in both Turkey and Iran. By the mid-1950s, however, there were hardly any genuine democrats in the Muslim world.
That's because they confused "individual liberty" with "democracy." Sloppy terminology produces sloppy results...
The intellectual and political life in most Muslim countries was dominated either by Marxist or other advocates of leftist totalitarianism or conservative religious forces.
Not a libertarian impulse to be seen for thousands of miles. Liberty leads inexorably to freedom of religion, and y'can't have that...
In the 1960s and 1970s the left, including its nationalist version, was in the ascendancy in most Muslim countries. From the late 1970s onward, however, Islamism, in its different versions, emerged as the dominant political force especially in the Middle East and North Africa. The speedy collapse of the Taleban in Kabul and the Baath in Baghdad, in 2002 and 2003, however, opened a new chapter in which advocates of democratization may have an opportunity to address the broader audiences at least in some Muslim countries.
I can't recall ever having heard the word "liberty" uttered by someone wearing a turban...
The reason for this is not hard to guess. The Baâath regime in Baghdad represented the most radical version in the Muslim world of leftist nationalism inspired by both Nazism and Communism. If anybody could have created the Arab nationalist Utopia it was Saddam Hussein. But he ended up in a hole near Takrit. The Taleban regime for its part represented the ultimate âmustâ in Islamism. No one could claim to be more Islamist than Mulla Muhammad Omar. But he, too, ended up hiding in a hole in Uruzgan.
Failure would seem to be a good indicator that something else would work better. But if the "something else" is unthinkable, what's a turban to do?
There is a growing sentiment in the Muslim world that their political systems have reached a deadend and that the only way out is some form of democratization. The old debate on whether Islam is compatible with democracy is hardly engaged these days. The issue now is the necessity of democracy for Muslims rather than its compatibility with Islam. Even the most conservative of Muslim regimes are now committed to the creation of elected organs of government.
Which is not the same thing as guaranteeing individual liberties. It's form versus substance...
There is, of course, no guarantee that such elections will not be âfixedâ to prolong the domination of the existing ruling elites at last in the short-run. Nor could anyone be sure that some power-sharing at the formal political level will necessarily broaden the base of regimes that use complex networks of business interests, economic tools, and security services to perpetuate their domination. Nevertheless, it is refreshing that, for the first time in more than half a century, the political discourse in the world of Islam is increasingly dominated by the democratic lexicon. It is interesting to see turbaned mullas discussing Locke and Tocqueville in television talk-shows beamed from âholyâ cities. And to hear military dictators donning the habit of champions of democracy is more than just amusing. Even the traditional rulers and the Stalinist-style state-owned radio and television networks still in place, now speak of elections, human rights, equality for women, and, ultimately, democracy.
It was hee-hee-larious, watching Muammar discussing how to practice capitalism as a revolutionary activity last year...
Even in the closest of Muslim societies, words and phrases that denote democratization are being heard, and read: Elections, reform, change, opening, dialogue, participation, consent, pluralism, separation of powers, the rule of law, due process, free enterprise, civil society, good governance, human rights, gender equality, accountability, and transparency.
Libery? Freedom of religion? Freedom of speech? Freedom of association? The right to be left alone?
Some of these words and phrases had not been heard anywhere in public in the Muslim world for decades. Others are neologisms, coined to express the new aspirations of many Muslims. Cynics might suggest that all this is nothing but the compliment that vice pays to virtue. The ruling elites may be using all this talk of democracy as a tactic to weather the storm created by the events in Afghanistan and Iraq, and then revert to their well-tested methods of rule by violence and bribery.
Any discussion of the difference between ruling and governing? Still missing the point, I see...
But cynics are likely to be wrong, as often they are. A change of mainstream discourse is a necessary prelude to structural political reform. Peer pressure and the force of example are likely to be important instruments in furthering the cause of democratization in the Muslim world, especially as far as the laggards are concerned. Some Muslim countries are already building viable democracies while others have launched a process of reform that cannot be reversed at will.
Sure it can. Look what happened when the ayatollahs chased the shah out. The willing horse took to its old harness. It was only when it came down with galls that it started to complain.
A collective Muslim commitment to reform, especially in difficult areas such as the status of women and the place of the Shariah (Islamic law) in the legal system, will enable the regimes that still fear a backlash from domestic reactionary sources to place change in the broader context of the Islamic family. The rest of the world can help not by dictating the rhythm, and tempo of reform, let alone its details, but by supporting those Muslim regimes that show a genuine commitment to change while ostracizing those that do not. Muslim politics as limited to palaces, barracks, mosques, and streets has led to what must be regarded as the most glaring collective failure for any group of nations in history. It is, perhaps, time to envisage other institutions, notably political parties, Parliaments and law courts as the focal points of political life in the Muslim world.
I guess my pessimism should be alleviated by the fact that this appeared in Arab News. But it's not. There have been similar articles before, and the writers were simply fired.
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There is a growing sentiment in the Muslim world that their political systems have reached a deadend and that the only way out is some form of democratization.
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I don't know maybe they ought to give Marxism another shot.
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The rest of the world can help not by dictating the rhythm, and tempo of reform, let alone its details,
The rest of the world should continually criticize specific Moslem practices (e.g. terrorism, honor killings, lack of relious freedom, oppression of women and minorities) that it will no longer tolerate.
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I wonder, how did these terrible Muslim regimes come about?
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I wonder, how did these terrible Muslim regimes come about?
No doubt you think the civilized world imposed them.
You're wrong, of course, but no doubt you think that way.
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Why are people surprised that the denizens of one of the harshest environments on earth have a social structure that is, well, harsh? Nice guys die quick in the Arabian desert, folks, and "good riddance" is the common thought when they do. That and "what was he carrying?"
It seems to me that a major feature of Marxism is internal strife: the more time Marxist Muslims spend hunting down their internal "enemies of the regime", the less time they will have to blow up innocents in sane countries.
Hmmm...
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I wonder, how did these terrible Muslim regimes come about?
Same as in Africa and Southeast Asia. In most cases, the colonial power, in a rush of white-man guilt and do-goodness, gave the colony its independence and either set up or allowed an initial government. However, the colonial power did little to ensure that the nascent government would last, or that new nation's intellectual and productive classes were protected. The exceptions to this were the French.
MANAMA, Bahrain (AP) - A woman was appointed to Bahrain's Cabinet for the first time Wednesday in a reshuffle by the king, Sheik Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa. Nada Haffadh, a family physician and member of Bahrain's upper house of parliament, was appointed health minister, the official Bahrain News Agency reported. She replaced Khalil Hassan, appointed in 2002. Haffadh's appointment, in the form of a royal decree, was the first reshuffle since the country's first elected parliament in nearly 30 years was reinstated in 2002.
Hmmm, family physician, political type, now going to be a minister -- could it be an outbreak of competence? What if it's contagious?
Bahraini women have played an active role in the society for over half a century and hold posts in ministries, banks and development organizations. Bahrain is the only country in a region dominated by traditional monarchies to have women in the parliament.
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Bahrain's voluntary adoption of representative government is one of the few bright spots in the entire Middle East. I applaud their efforts and hope that this instance of uncoerced transition serves as an example to other Middle East nations. Otherwise, we'll just have to go in and topple their repressive @sses.
It is against this background that the proposed political changes in Bahrain should be seen. The Emir, in his National Day address, made it clear that Bahrain will recover its elected parliament, which will in future operate alongside the appointed consultative council in a bicameral parliamentary system and which will have legislative power.
The Emir's initiative will be seen as a bold statement of confidence in transparent, accountable government in the Middle East, despite recent disappointments and, as such, is an important initiative, particularly in the region.
No timetable for these changes has been announced. The proposed changes have to be submitted to referendum before they can enter into force, as the Premier, Sheikh Khalifa bin Salman Al Khalifa, made clear in a speech in Hidd the day after the Emir's address.
Yet there is no reason to suppose that they will be long delayed.
The broadcast of images of a dying Diana, Princess of Wales must have been "painful" for her two sons, a former Palace spokesman has said. The pictures, taken moments after the Paris car crash in which she died, were shown by US network CBS in a programme looking at the accident. Dicky Arbiter told the BBC it was "particularly bad taste" for the network to run the pictures. But CBS insisted the photographs were "in no way graphic or exploitative". Mr Arbiter told BBC Radio 4âs Today programme he was surprised at an American television network running "this sort of picture". "It will be painful, painful for William and Harry. Theyâre going to have to live with this sort of thing for the rest of their lives."
Cheeze. My tear ducts are eroding...
Mohamed Al Fayed, whose son Dodi also died in the 1997 crash, also accused CBS of "insensitivity". cue Hilarious laughter
Defending its decision to show the images CBS said: "These photocopies are placed in journalistic context - an examination of the medical treatment given to Princess Diana just after the crash." CBS said the images, which had not been broadcast before, were part of a 4,000-page French government report the broadcast recently obtained. The US broadcaster said it had also obtained confidential documents relating to the crash. These reportedly include forensic analysis of the scene and vehicle, and post mortem examination of the driver and MI6 agent, Henri Paul. One of the pictures taken by paparazzi photographers at the scene - included in the official crash report - showed her head in the car. BBC Royal correspondent Peter Hunt said CBS showed the black and white images for just 15 seconds during the one-hour documentary. But, he said, Diana was "instantly recognisable" from a picture of the side of her head. British newspapers had previously decided not to publish the photographs, he added, for fear of being sued and/or publicly lynched on the grounds of taste and decency.
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Do the Americans get the same graphic footage of Kennedy's death as we do in the UK? Me think so.
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Do the Americans get the same graphic footage of Kennedy's death as we do in the UK?
Yeah, in slow motion, over and over, pandering to the same conspiracy nuts who refuse to believe that one guy with a rifle could kill someone and that a drunk driver can wreck a car.
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I wasn't paying attention. Was there this much "outrage" when the 4 burnt bodies were hanging from a bridge ?
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CBS came in 4th place in that time slot (Law & Order got double the ratings according to the Drudge headline) so although Americans may not have been overly "outraged" they certainly weren't interested in such a classless show.
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Vice president "straight shooter". No-nonsense, with a hammer in his hand.
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Makes you wonder about that explosion in N Korea eh?
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"If China cannot prevent North Korea from arming itself with nuclear weapons, the United States, too, cannot prevent Taiwan and Japan from arming themselves with nuclear weapons."
Do ya think that just maybe this one short statement finally put some major heat under the politburo to chain up their little North Korean rottweiler? I'm wondering how soon we'll hear about China's opposition to Iran's nuclear program.
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Given that both japan and Tiawan IIRC have nuclear power plants (South Korea too) just how long does anyone think that it would take them to produce servicable weapons that could actually be deployed. The betting pool is now open
Two fuel trains are reported to have collided in North Korea and triggered a large explosion, injuring many people. The blast was reported at Ryongchong station, 50km north of the capital Pyongyang, South Korea's Yonhap news agency said. The incident reportedly happened nine hours after North Korean leader Kim Jong-il passed through the station on his way home from a visit to Beijing.
Damm, this is what happens when you use a low bidder.
The report was based on information from sources on the Chinese city of Dandong, which borders North Korea, said Reuters news agency, monitoring Yonhap. North Korea rarely reports its own accidents.
Why should they, no accidents can happen under the enlightened rule of the Dear Leader. It must be a CIA plot.
Yonhap said that the colliding trains were carrying gasoline and gas, and that they crashed at around 1300 local time (0400 GMT). The report has not yet been confirmed by South Korean officials. "The station was destroyed as if hit by a bombardment and debris flew high into the sky," Yonhap quoted its sources as saying.
Gasoline tankers and LPG tank cars, firemans worst nightmare. I'll wager the gasoline caught fire and cooked off the LPG tankers. A BLEVE would match the report here.
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Anyone have any idea how much rail stock the NorKs have? Looks like they have at least two lines running to the Chinese border, with a third to the Russian border that probably can double in a pinch, so an accident on any one line won't cut their communications with their Chinese fuel supplies.
I thought they had pipelines over the border? Isn't hauling gas by train somewhat inefficient?
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SEOUL (Reuters) - Up to 3,000 people were killed or injured in a huge explosion on Thursday when two goods trains collided in a North Korean station hours after leader Kim Jong-il had passed through, South Korea's YTN television station said. Yonhap news agency also said there were thousands of casualties. Both Yonhap and YTN did not give a breakdown of deaths and injuries.
Shit, it happened right in a crowded station. Oh, BLEVE = Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion. Think fuel air explosive.
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I still like mine better ;-)
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Better definition: BLEVE Under rapid heating (for example, from a pool fire engulfing the tank), a tank containing pressurized liquid may fail suddenly producing an explosive effect. The liquid in the tank absorbs energy from the surrounding fire and heats up rapidly. The resulting increased rate of vaporization produced increases the ullage pressure. When this pressure exceeds a certain limit (characteristic of the material properties of the tank wall, wall thickness and temperature), the tank fails. The liquid released from the tank boils rapidly and expands. The resulting explosion may fragment the tank into pieces and propel them over large distances. If the hazmat is flammable, it may ignite and form a fireball posing additional hazard. This phenomenon is called a BLEVE or Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosion.
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Has anybody actually seen Kimmie since the accident?
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Kim is crazy enough to think it is a CIA plot even though it probably isn't. After the soberng meeting in China, he might have gotten some emphasis not to go Nuclear. Or at least he thinks that's what is going on.
"But I am the Dear Leader and everybody loves me."
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...Y'know, I'm going to suggest something here.
You gotta believe that NorkNukes(TM)can't be built to the same standards of safety and control as ours. I wonder if it wasn't an honest accident with a weapons train that resulted in a fizzle...
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Here's a question for the "engineering" student in "Palestine" that wanted HIV blood tainted bombs for the infitada against the Jews:
If a train leaves Saigon at 12 am and is travelling north at 120 mph and another train is heading south out of NKor at 130 mph and they both contain fuel.....awwww, it's not even worth the joke. Must feel sorry for the innocents there at that station though. I'm sure it'll be blamed on the CIA (if so, they're getting better).
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I'm wondering if it was seismic enough to be recorded in Japan.
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Watch the southies. if they dont react, its just an item of interest. If the southies start to get jumpy, then this might be the first step in a bigger move.
( anyone know the displacement of our AEGIS crusiers in the pacific?)
Yes - Kimmie is likely to think that this was JDAM into a train station, but hes also got to wonder if the Chinese had anything to do with it. its being reported that it occured on the chinese and Korean borders.
Now - in a country where its in famine and even the well off areas are barely getting by, how does it screw things up to lose a main railway link to their only remaining trading partner?
One other thing, Dictators rule because people believe they are in change, if the people of NKOR begin to doubt the great leader, look out.
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I'm leaning more toward Kozlowski on this one. The first thing that popped in my head after seeing 3000 killed was that it was a weapon accident. Thats REALLY allot of people. How could a train blow up that big?
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Hmmm - Is anybody on the Chinese border monitoring for radiation in case Kozlowski has stumbled onto something?
Inquiring minds want to know!
But prevaling winds, west to east, should have some Japanese hopping in a day or two if something is really bad, and censors start to pick up a pop-pop-pop...
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I think K-man is on to something here, Ryongchong is near the nulcear weapons labs taht were being monitored!
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So Kimmy rolled through there about 9 hrs earlier? Wonder if he got out to offer that famous Kimmy "field guidance" on how to run the railroads?
Sure does sound like it.
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China hopes that this week's visit, reported in the South Korean media, will help facilitate a third round of six-party talks by late June involving the two Koreas, China, the United States, Japan and Russia. These negotiations, organized by Beijing, are aimed at eliminating Pyongyang's nuclear weapons.
Kim, who rarely appears in public in North Korea, let alone abroad, is said to love French Cognac, cinema and fine food and usually travels by train because he is afraid of flying.
Such an impressive seven-car private train, reportedly with more than 40 North Korean officials, should be hard to miss. A call to the Beijing Railway Station, however, turned up little.
Private train to China? Train accident on main trunk line from China? Coincidence,Agent Scully?
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more info on the meeting this week between Kimmie and China.
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Rawsnacks' link to the Army moves to Japan is indeed timely
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04/22/2004 16:25 Comments ||
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Maps of NKOR nuclear facilities:
http://www.nti.org/db/profiles/dprk/nuc/e1_nkorea_mapheu.html
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Spread the wealth:
http://cns.miis.edu/research/korea/
I cant make head or tails out of these korean names, anyone care to dig in here and try to find the exact location of this ex-railway station and correlate it to one of these facilities?
One interesting note I've found is some suspicion of an underground nuclear faciility up in the end of the country:
now - as far as we can tell - an explosion near a railway between Pyongyang and the Chinese border has occured. The press is reporting it as:
"The area around Ryongchon station has turned into ruins as if it were bombarded," Yonhap quoted witnesses as saying. "Debris from the explosion soared high into the sky and drifted to Sinuju," a North Korean town on the border with China, it said.
Cho Sung-dae, a Yonhap correspondent in Beijing, said his reports were based on residents in the Chinese border city of Dandong who talked with their relatives in Ryongchon
according to this account, Ryongchon is 12 miles from the chinese border, on the rail line from Dandong.
Damned if I can find though......
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Note Ryongchon in the far Northwest near the border woth China. Kumchangni fom Lux's posting seems fairly close. Yongbyon, which is the most talked of seems not all that far, but is not marked on the full map. It seems to be near the city of Unjon on the Chongchon River.
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regarding the sinuiju plant. It makes something called "vinylon", which sounds like it has all the charm of cheap imitation naugahyde without the cruel indiginity of skinning the ferocious "nauga-bats".
excerpted from globalsecurty.org:
The government has called for accelerating the expansion projects at both the Siniju and Ch'ngjin chemical fiber complexes. Vinylon textile (100,000 tons) made from "Anthracite coal + limestone", and viscous textile made from timber and reed occupy an 88% share of total production capacity. On the other hand, because Vinylon is hard to dye and shrinks after washing, and viscous textile generates poisonous gas and waste water during its processing, they are treated as inferior to those of advanced countries. The planned annual output target for chemical fibers in the Third Seven-Year Plan is 225,000 tons while the output for synthetic resin and plasticizer is targeted at 500,000 tons. Foreign estimates placed the output of chemical fibers in 1990 at 177,000 tons.
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Its there, its a real town. And there is a fairly large industrial capacity in the area. And I bet the Norks are pretty careless when it comes to public safety.
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There has never been a train accident that caused anything like this number of casualties. There is (much) more to this than a simple train crash. I suspect a coup attempt, possibly backed by China.
BBC is reporting Norks have declared a state of emergency.
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The Sun has just come up over there, I suspect we will get much more information today, but I dont expect we will hear anything from the NKORS at all.
If this is an industrial rail stop, I understand the accident, but I cant understand the high loss of life. This is one of three rail routes into NKOR, so 1/3 of the carrying capacity from China to NKOR has been somewhat diminished. This is going to have a big impact on a country already stressed.
I wish we could be certain of the source of the info on this. Train accident, Chemical Factory explosion, its all more news out of the this hell hole than we've had for sometime.
If I remember right, Chernobyl wasnt reported by the Soviets as a nuclear accident until the euros started noticing their gieger counters hopping around, then they only admitted what they had to.
I suspect that marxists the world wide operate the same way.
To see what Chernobyl looks like today:
http://www.kiddofspeed.com/
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Frank Martin - My point EXACTLY in #23.
But prevaling winds, west to east, should have some Japanese hopping in a day or two if something is really bad,
My Russian-born Small-Business-Owning Republican Wife has a few interesting invectives about the way Chernobyl was handled.
This will be an interesting "ballet" to watch be played out.
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according to yonhap (south korean news) Debris from the explosion soared high into the sky and drifted to Sinuju," a North Korean town on the border with China, it said. Cho Sung-dae, a Yonhap correspondent in Beijing, said his reports were based on residents in the Chinese border city of Dandong
So, I'd say that surface winds are from south to the north. I dont know if the Chinese would "out" the NKORS if this is a "chernobyl" event. My guess is we have 48 hours before anything will show up in the air in russia or japan. If I remember, The initial Chernobyl reports did not start with the admission that it was a nuclear plant, they sort of crawled up slowly after the Scandanavians began to detect radioactive debris.
If this is anything but a rail accident or a chemical factory event, it will be very interesting indeed. 1/3 of all Chinese rail traffic to NKOR passes through here.
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Foxnews - reporting that NKOR is asking for help with rescue.
1) They are keeping it in the family.
2) The numbers are about to climb.
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Reuters reported that residents of Pyongyang reached by telephone had said that there was nothing unusual in the capital. North Korean television was broadcasting military songs and music â standard evening fare.
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Here is a list of major train accidents over the last 100 years. It is an interesting 'coincident' that within a couple of months 2 members of the axis of evil have had a major train explosion. You have to go back almost 50 years to find a comparable 'accident'.
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so, if this is a train accident, its either the worlds biggest train, or a commuter train station at the biggest rush hour in the history of Korea.
I wonder where the 3,000 number comes from? and how it was estimated.
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Debris from the explosion soared high into the sky and drifted to Sinuju
Mmmm1The weather is strong winds out of the north. I.e. there is no way winds have blown debris north for any distance. There is something fishy here.
Also the BBC is showing a satellite pic of dark balck cloud of smoke. Although the dingbats didn't give a scale on pic. So it could be a picture of someone burning garbage in their back yard.
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NBC: NBC News, quoting a source who had seen new satellite photographs of the site, reported that the explosion took place inside the Yangsi railroad yard. It appeared to have flattened large apartment buildings in a nearby civilian area.
The source described âa big explosion, leaving a large area of damage and flat space. It has taken down multiple-story apartment buildings. Many were damaged or destroyed.â
Ok, numbers now make sense, a somewhat reliable source on the info makes me relax. Now, its time to start an office pool on the when Kimmie will make a public appearance or address to the populace.
NKOR Chernobyl theory is Now Deactivated.
Chinese Assassination attempt is Now Active.
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Chinese Assassination attempt is Now Active.
well, then, someone's gonna have to explain why the blast was a friggin' 9 hrs after "Mr. Poofy Hair" went thru then, no?
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Had their watch set to U.S. Pacific time perhaps?
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I wonder where the 3,000 number comes from? and how it was estimated.
If it's like a lot of other Asian countries, there will be housing built up against the right of way and railyards. I suspect the NKOR construction methods aren't all that good. And if it was a botched attempt at Kim, their assassins aren't all that hot either.
Last Updated: Thursday, 22 April, 2004, 06:35 GMT 07:35 UK
A baby milk scandal which has killed dozens of infants in China appears to be widening. State television says infants who were fed fake formula have been treated for malnutrition in a second province. An investigation is under way, and police in Anhui province have already detained five wholesalers of fake baby milk, according to Xinhua news agency. Around 200 babies in Anhui alone were fed formula milk of little nutritional value, media reports said.
An initial inquiry has shown that 45 types of substandard powder were on sale in Fuyang City, Anhui, produced by 141 factories across China, Xinhua said. Chinese television said fake powder and malnourished babies were also found in the neighbouring province of Shandong. Reporters there found 10 brands of fake milk powder on sale. State media has reported that 50-60 infants have died after being fed the powder, although only 13 have so far been named.
Doctors say the baby milk scandal is responsible for the worst malnourishment they have seen in 20 years. Local media in Fuyang printed pictures of one six-month-old baby boy who weighed less than he did at birth. They said some of the babies developed what doctors called "big head disease", where infantsâ heads appear abnormally large in comparison to their bodies. Some "big heads" ought to roll over this bit of murder.
It was not clear if the counterfeit powder included any toxic ingredients, but some children were reported to have died within three days of being fed the fake milk. An analysis of one formula found it contained as little as one-sixth the required amount of protein and other nutrients needed for a babyâs proper development, reports said. Local authorities have now announced they will give free medical treatment to the surviving babies.
A BBC correspondent in Beijing, Louisa Lim, says counterfeit goods are often on sale in rural areas, where supervision is slack and customers poorly informed. But in this case the human cost of this get-rich-quick scheme has sparked widespread anger. Our correspondent says an investigation will be held into why the Fuyang city government failed to act despite knowing about the problem last May. How much money did these killers make? Maybe a couple of thousand dollars? Murdering babies is one hell of a way to make some money. China needs to face up to how their rampant product counterfeiting brought this about. Their state sanctioned intellectual property theft has killed more than babies. People around the world are being put on the street by jobs lost to Chinaâs economic black hole. Nobody should be too surprised to finally see the vultures coming home to roost.
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A recount of Taiwan's controversial presidential election will begin on 10 May, the High Court has announced. "It is hoped the recount will be completed in 10 days," said spokesman Wen Yao-yuan on Wednesday. The next presidential term begins on 20 May, and analysts fear violent protests if the dispute between the two main parties is not resolved by then. Current President Chen Shui-bian won the March election by a narrow margin, but the opposition disputes the result.
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FOUR brothers convicted of gang raping two Sydney teenagers have been jailed for a total of 70 years between them. The brothers maintained they were innocent in court today, claiming they were the victim of a police conspiracy because they were Muslims.
"Dat's right, y'r honor! Da cops planted my doinker there!"
One of the brothers, known as MAK, stood up after they were sentenced, and proclaimed the four menâs innocence. "We did not do this crime," he said. "This crime was committed against us. The police set us up because we are Muslim." You canât charge us with raping Kufrs, we used to do that for fun back in Pakistan
A fifth rapist who was also involved in the attack - and due to be sentenced today - killed himself in a Sydney prison a week ago. That was nice of him
The Nepalese-born man, who was 26, had not told his parents that he had wound up in prison in Australia.
You mean he actually felt shame?
One of the victims, known only as LS, today said she was "not overly satisfied" with the sentences. One of the investigating detectives, Senior Constable Tony Adams, said no amount of jail time would ever compensate the victims for what he described as one the most violent rapes he had ever investigated. "No sentence, no matter how harsh, will ever compensate the victim(s)," he said. The four men were found guilty by a New South Wales Supreme Court jury late last year of nine counts each of aggravated sexual assault in company. The rapes occurred at their family home in Ashfield, in Sydneyâs inner west, on July 28, 2002. The men threatened two girls with knives and bullets during the attack, and one of the victims was told the other had been killed because she resisted the rapists.
But the only reason the lads were arrested is because they were Muslims...
Sentencing judge Justice Brian Sully said cultural differences between the perpetrators and their victims should not be used as justification for the rapes. "Neither the law, nor the culture of Australia, recognises multiculturalism ... as providing in any way or to anybody a convenient justification either for rape or for any other form of sexual abuse," he said. Justice Sully sentenced 25-year-old MSK, who he described as the ringleader, and 17-year-old MMK to 22 years each behind bars. He sentenced their 23-year-old brother MAK to 16 years, and MRK to 10 years. MSK was given a non-parole period of 16 and a half years, MMK 13 years, and MAK 12 years. However, MRK, who did not perform any of the rapes himself, could be out of jail in as little as five years. None of the rapists can be identified by more than initials because two were minors at the time of the attack.
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since they already know what rape is, it'll ease their indoctination to "hard time"
"Ya got a purty mouth on ya, MSK"
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I can think of no better punishment than what these are going to get while they are in prison. Enjoy the 'multiculturalism' you soon will get in prison.
Somali-born MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali demanded on Thursday the closure of an Amsterdam mosque that sells books supporting female circumcision, beating wives and the murder of gay people. The Dutch Parliament is to hold an emergency debate about the El Tawheed mosque next week. MPs want Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner and Immigration and Integration Minister Rita Verdonk to explain what they intend to do about the book "De weg van de moslim".
Time to see if those "Hate Crimes" laws apply to muslims
The publication â translated as The Way of the Muslim in English â is said to advocate violence against women and killing gay people. Gay people should be thrown head first off high buildings. If not killed on hitting the ground, they should then be stoned to death, the book allegedly suggests.
Humm, sounds pretty clear to me. Could be the translation from the Mother Tongue to english though, everyone knows islam is the Religion of Peace.
In her column in newspaper Algemeen Dagblad, Hirsi Ali â who was raised as a Muslim â went one step further and called on the government to close the mosque. The MP has been a strident opponent of Islamic teachings on women and gay people. The Liberal VVD party MP said it was time for the Justice Ministry to indicate whether it intended to go to court to have the mosque banned. Hirsi Ali said the latest revelations about the book advocating beating women and killing gay people was the last straw. Closure of the mosque was a question of "political will", she wrote. "This mosque has been warned repeatedly by the authorities that intolerance against non-Muslims and undermining the law is unacceptable in the Netherlands," Hirsi Ali said. "The Way of the Muslim" is one of the publications on sale at the El Tawheed mosque. Earlier this month the mosque was at the centre of a storm about another book available at its open day organised to help combat the mosque's negative public image. That book "Fatwas of Muslim Women" says that women who lie deserve 100 blows and the husband's duty of care for his wife is negated if she refuses him sex or leaves the home without his permission. One of its most controversial aspects is the call for Muslim girls to be circumcised.
Any comments, Gentle? Hello?
MPs in the Dutch Parliament have indicated they want the second book, "The Way of the Muslim", banned if it supports violence towards women and killing gay people. VVD parliamentarian Geert Wilders has called for the emergency debate next week. Another MP, Mirjam Sterk of the Christian Democrat CDA, said imams (Islamic religious leaders) must distance themselves from the book's content. If not, the imams must be prosecuted or deported.
Or both.
An Islamic cleric was deported from France to his native Algeria on Wednesday after he caused uproar by his endorsement of wife-beating and polygamy. Clerics at El Tawheed feel they have been unfairly singled out in the media as part of a wider campaign against Islamic institutions in Europe.
"Yeah, we're being oppressed!"
"Yer just pickin' on us 'cuz we're Muslims!"
MPs and media commentators attacked the Amsterdam mosque previously when one of the imams referred to non-Muslims as "firewood for hell". He also forbade Islamic women from leaving the family home without the permission of their husbands. RTL Television reported on Thursday a cameraman was assaulted when a news team attempted to buy "The Way of the Muslim" at the mosque.
"Hey, put that book down, it ain't for infidels! Mahmoud, throw him out!"
Eventually RTL's female reporter managed to buy the book, albeit while accompanied by police protection.
This should be interesting.
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Yes, "...undermining the law is unacceptable in the Netherlands." Now, go away or I shall taunt you a second time. Sounds like "hate crimes" laws may be coming back to bite the liberals in their collective toosh.
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this is gonna be difficult. I mean, how are they gonna blame the Jooos for this one?
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Imam expelled from France, arrests in Manchester, this from the NL. Lots of activity in Europe lately. Am the only one who thinks this has something to do with Madrid?? That it really did shake Europe up???
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Give them time, PlanetDan - they'll figure out a way. And the US too.
Seething in 5, 4, 3...
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I've been following Ms. Ali over at Expatica Netherlands. She is very brave and not afraid to speak out. She speaks often of the failure of Holland's Muslims (largely Turk and Bosnian) to integrate into Dutch culture, with a particular emphasis on the schools.
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This is only one of the mosques here in Amsterdam. Just to give you an indication Muhammed is currently the most popular boys name in Amsterdam. Within the next 50 years demographic trends show that the larger cities in the Netherlands will be having a majority of Islamic inhabitants. Next to the Netherlands other European countries also face this kind of demographic Islamification of their urban areas.
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http://rantburg.com/poparticle.asp?HC=Main&D=4/22/2004&ID=31277
In the Netherlands, Muslims are a majority among children under 14 in the countryâs four largest cities. Rotterdam, a port city where half the people are of foreign origin, will soon unveil Europeâs largest mosque. In Brussels, the capital of the European Union, Muhammad has been the name most frequently given for newborn baby boys. Osama is a close second.
So what are the Dutch adults doing?
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Samira Bellil .... has penned Dans lâenfer des tournantes (In the hell of the tournantes; the last word is a slang term for gang rape). Published last month, the book has shocked France with its graphic accounts of the attacks and Bellilâs impassioned denunciation of the increasing violence and sexual abuse committed against young women in the banlieues [poor housing projects]. Since 1999, rapes within the banlieue have increased by 15% to 20% every year.... Reports of sexual assaults against women have risen across France, with court convictions for rape having soared by 61% between 1995 to 2000.
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Rape Rate Rises in France Along With Spread of Islamic Fundamentalism
Quelle surprise!
There comes a point when women must say, âThatâs enough.â
For Phrawnce, that point was about 20 years ago, honey. You all are waaaay behind in kicking the Islamofacists in their microscopic nuts.
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Barbara,
This bring up something very intresting.
Islamofacists are here to stay and the virus has found a host in Detroit!!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38044
Read it and weep!!
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Yeah, John - I read about that. They're nuts. "Low-pitched voices" my ass. And it's nothing like church bells (and I'm not christian).
If this passes, watch for "inexplicable" damage to those loudspeakers. I predict "electrical problems" aplenty.
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Did you know that Churches in Muslim countries don't have bells in order to not hurt Muslim sensitivities?
Anyone for giving them not more, not less than what they give to others?
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Ah yes...shocked to see you here Martha! I also wonder what the rate of female beatings is doing (I suppose going up in the name of "cleansing" the family name when you don't wear your burka). Amazing that Hamtramack, MI will soon look and sound like (and probably smell like) Riyadh, right here in the good ol' US of A!
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One 13-year-old girl in northern France was raped by as many as 88 youths over a four-month period earlier this year before alerting her parents. In September in the Paris suburb of Argenteuil, a court sentenced a band of youths to five to 12 years for repeatedly raping a local 15-year-old girl. In most cases, the perpetrators don't seem to realize that they've committed a grievous crime.
Um - Um - Teen rape? Don't seem to realize they are commiting a grevious crime?
If anybody says something about "Different God, Different Culture, Different Mountain Top", they ought to be smacked!
The author, Patrick Weil is director of research at the Centre national de la recherche Scientifique (CNRS)
I was a member of this presidential commission [about headscarves in schools], most likely chosen for my expertise in the field of immigration policy and nationality law, and as a former member of the high advisory council on integration. I arrived with the idea that a law was probably unnecessary for resolving the problems. Yet, after four months of public hearings involving representatives of all religious confessions, political parties, trades unions and NGOs, as well as individual actors â principals, teachers, parents, students, directors of hospitals and jails, company managers â I endorsed a report recommending twenty-five different measures, including the banning of conspicuous religious symbols in public schools. I would like here to explain why. ....
But let me emphasise one point at the start, before setting out the background and reasoning of my decision. After we heard the evidence, we concluded that we faced a difficult choice with respect to young Muslim girls wearing the headscarf in state schools. Either we left the situation as it was, and thus supported a situation that denied freedom of choice to those â the very large majority â who do not want to wear the headscarf; or we endorsed a law that removed freedom of choice from those who do want to wear it. ...
What, then, has changed since 1989? In this period, and especially in the last two to three years, it has become clear that in schools where some Muslim girls do wear the headscarf and others do not, there is strong pressure on the latter to âconformâ. This daily pressure takes different forms, from insults to violence. In the view of the (mostly male) aggressors, these girls are âbad Muslimsâ, âwhoresâ, who should follow the example of their sisters who respect Koranic prescriptions. We received testimonies of Muslim fathers who had to transfer their daughters from public to (Catholic) private schools where they were free of pressure to wear the headscarf. Furthermore, in the increasing number of schools where girls wear the hijab, a clear majority of Muslim girls who do not wear the headscarf called for legal protection and asked the commission to ban all public displays of religious belief.
A large majority of Muslim girls do not want to wear the scarf; they too have the right of freedom of conscience. Principals and teachers have tried their best to bring back some order in an impossible situation where pressure, insults or violence sets pupils against one another, yet where to protest against this treatment is seen as treason to the community. There are cases where pupils who have had their arms broken in violent acts have lied to their parents in order to avoid denouncing their peers. ....
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Headscarfs... and some dimwits opine that Iraq isn't central to th WOT.
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Payback is a bitch. Terry be losinâ his cool.
Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe blew a gasket yesterday during an interview with WNDB-AM Florida radio host Marc Bernier, saying he should "get off the radio" after Bernier challenged him about a NewsMax report on Sen. John Kerryâs belated decision to release his Vietnam war records. "If this is the best you got, you ought to get off the radio," a testy McAuliffe barked at Bernier, saying he should "come up with something that makes some sense for your listeners." Much to the top Democratâs chagrin, however, the Florida talker refused let the issue go. The exchange went like this:
MCAULIFFE: John Kerry was on "Meet the Press" on Sunday and within 48 hours he had them all up on the web site. So heâs done pretty well compared to the embarrassment of George Bushâs military records. BERNIER: Yeah, but he said when he talked to Russert that they were already there and they werenât
MCAULIFFE: He said, weâll personally - no, he did not, Marc. He said he would make them available to everybody. They are now available within 48 hours. Whatâs the issue? BERNIER: OK
MCAULIFFE: If this is the best you got, you ought to get off the radio. BERNIER: No, itâs not the best Iâve got. Itâs just that Iâm reporting . . .
MCAULIFFE: Then come up with something that makes some sense for your listeners. BERNIER: Well, the fact is, I mean, Mr. Chairman, NewsMax.com went to look at them yesterday and they werenât there. When he was on "Meet the Press" he said that theyâve all been put out. So he did it after the fact.
MCAULIFFE: They are up there now. You go [to] NewsMax or wherever else you want, Marc, go up and look at them. Why are you wasting my time? They are up on his web site. Thatâs all I can tell you. BERNIER: Iâm not wasting your time . . .
MCAULIFFE: We can debate about when he put them up. Theyâre up, go look at them and do whatever you want. He won five medals, which is five more than George Bush won. You can go up, look at it for yourself and have a field day. BERNIER: Alright. Letâs talk about the complaints about . . .
MCAULIFFE: What else are you gonna talk about? BERNIER: Well, fine. I mean, you guys called us and offered - so, please, donât have an attitude with me. We waited 19 minutes for you, sir. And you guys called us . . .
MCAULIFFE: If you want to take time to ask a legitimate question, go ahead and ask it. BERNIER: I did ask a legitimate question. I hadnât gone to your web site today. Iâm just telling you that we had a report that was this morning, that said that they had gone down yesterday to look at the records at the Kerry campaign headquarters and they were not being made available. Thatâs all Iâm telling you.
MCAULIFFE: Thereâs your answer. Theyâre up on the web site. [End of Excerpt]
Too bad he couldnât have asked the real questions about his medical records, and his activities in 1971
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Wasn't McAuliffe replaced as a spokesman by Illinois' own Eddie Haskell Dick Durbin and a congressman?
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The mind boggles. Who in the world put her on the 9/11 commission in the first place?
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Wow! Boggles, indeed. Is there an end to the "inside the beltway" partisanship, insanity, and arrogance? The Ringling Bros Commission members should have to wear scarlet letters for the rest of their lives and attend Shame School.
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It would be really devious to let her draft a report, having saved even more damaging information about her than her memo for release after she has finished her draft. Not that I would do that.
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Cat, meet canary.
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Wow! That's scary! Just yesterday, after reading some tired lefty, I thought to myself, "I wonder whatever happened to Mary McGrory? She must be 185 years old. She should be kicking it any time now." And then she did.
Mary McGrory: Predictable to the End
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It's about time this lying, old bitch died. Now, it's helen thomas's turn. Then it's walter crankcase cronkite's turn.......NEXT! Step right up folks....
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Rest in pieces.
In hell.
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Since Mary continuously made little to no sense in her Pravda On The Potomac(Washington Post)coulumn. I can honestly say that I will miss her Socialist, MoonBat, Post Menstrual, senile, seething rants and screeds.
Like an Impacted Wisdom Tooth!
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She's asking the easy questions to Goebbels about now.
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Cheez guys, have a heart, she may have been a liberal moonbat, but she was OUR liberal moonbat. And I'll point out, she didn't mean harm to anyone. Rest in peace, Mary.
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Aw, you old softy, lol!
Um, just wondering here, but would you say the same regards Dowd? No, nevermind. Bad question! Bad keyboard! Bad fingers! Bad! Lol!
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LLL/Al Guardian line:
How can we keep our cherished freedoms and preserve peace and nuanced rational discourse if we allow these evil, reactionary forces of Bushitler/Ashkkkroft censorship to openly plot their oppression in the very heart of progressive media activism?
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I think the RNC is depending on all of this to really make the left look bad in the runnup to the election. Everytime the puppet show and anarchists are on television Bush's ratings seem to go up.
If things get violent Kerry will probably have a chance to condemn them (and risk their defection to Nader) or stay silent (and risk the center believing he supports such knuckleheads). Knowing Kerry he'll condemn them before voting for them and thus ensure he alienates both sides.
Slightly EFL
Half of Americans have concerns that terrorists might be winning the war on terrorism, and one in five feels strongly that way, according to an Associated Press poll that found many people pessimistic about their security.
Fears about an attack against this country are high. Two-thirds in the poll said it was likely terrorists would strike before the November elections. And a third said it was likely there would be an attack at one of the political conventions this summer. ââTerrorists are winning the war for the hearts and minds of the people in the Mideast,ââ said Christine Wyatt, 52, of Clarkston, Mich. Doubts about the war on terrorism are higher among women, older Americans, people who make lower incomes and people with less than a high school education.
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Anonymous4426...Presidents do not create or destroy jobs. Depsite the political rhetoric, hard work, initiative, and peronal innovation are traits that keep people employed. And if "you got no job" its best to turn inward to determine why rather than scapegoat the "administration." As one wag once suggested: you are a naïve, âimpish icon of idiocy.â
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ââTerrorists are winning the war for the hearts and minds of the people in the Mideast,ââ said Christine Wyatt, 52, of Clarkston, Mich.
Terrorist are dying faster than Air America radio at an American Legion convention. You call that winning? I do. For civilization.
I guess folks do not realize that Iraq is what artillerists call a target rich environment. They are being drawn into this fight like flies on cow dung.
Terrorists are losing the war and they know it.
On another note: This bombing in Basra. Am I the only one who thinks that Fallujah ceasefire is history since there are attacks taking place elsewhere, espeically near a critical supply node?
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a4426 is right it hard finding work now especial in you field im having hard time finding teacher job for english has first language only job available to me are mow grass sell grass or grow grass it hard im go home now take a quick nap and be refresh for late nite blogfoeamerica
I donât think itâs my imagination, though I have had to read a lot of tea leaves to come to this conclusion. I think, quite apart from exigencies of an election year, that the Bush administration, nay verily, President Bush himself is changing his tune; that his own reading of the apocalyptically bad situation in the Middle East is evolving with experience. He is quietly abandoning positions which have been proven naïve. He is hunkering into positions that have been proven unavoidable. The new song, which will flavour his second term if there is one, might be entitled, "No more Mr. Nice Guy."
The tea leaves I am reading are all over Iraq, and Afghanistan, but also heavily deposited in Gaza. Punches the Americans were still pulling only a few weeks ago are being freely delivered.
Now, the world is getting increasingly out of touch with America. This is evident in the common assumption that the Democrat presidential candidate, John Kerry, would offer a kinder, gentler version of American statecraft, and therefore deserves the prayers of the worldâs peaceniks.
Mr. Kerry, though essentially a man of the left, is a political weathercock. Read carefully what he has been saying recently about the U.S. commitment in Iraq, and national interests throughout the region. He is now trying to position himself as hawk to Mr. Bushâs dove, in the "war on terrorism". He is less tactful than Mr. Bush in referring to the "Islamic threat", and has been downright rude to Saudi Arabia. In press conferences among international media, he has forgotten that he can speak French. (Mr. Kerry is also moving into positions that Mr. Bush is moving on from, but that is a different story.)
And the polling data suggest the U.S. public may be getting grittier rather than softer in their determination to deal with the hard problems presented by international terrorism and rogue states. Example: at the same time that an increasing proportion think things are not going well in Iraq, a stable or increasing proportion think the U.S. should remain there. Karl Rove, Mr. Bushâs political wizard, seems to have detected that Americans are tiring, not of aggressive political language, but of anything that smacks of empty idealism. I have noticed that the administration, including even the State Department, is muting the blather about "democracy in Iraq". Since itâs not going to happen, they might as well stop promising.
U.S. support for Israel is the real test, since Israel remains, to anyone with a reasonably clear comprehension of the Middle East, Americaâs only reliable ally. On Israel, the U.S. public has now had 31 months to consider the "plight of the Palestinian people", and also their behaviour, in light of what happened on 9/11/01. Sympathy for suicide bombers is at a new low. Sympathy for Israelis who kill Hamas terrorist leaders is at a new high.
It is against this political background, that President Bush has been emboldened to "move the envelope" out of reach of the old Oslo platitudes, and openly endorse Prime Minister Ariel Sharonâs efforts to build a security barrier around the West Bank (to match the one already around Gaza), and even retain possession of proximate Israeli settlements on the non-Israeli side of the old "Green Line". Why should Israel give up anything, when she will get nothing in return? Why should she act any differently from the U.S. in hunting down and killing terrorists publicly pledged to her annihilation?
The response to Mr. Bushâs endorsements of Israel are serious, by "moderate Arab" diplomatic standards. King Abdullah of Jordan postponed a meeting in the White House, and President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt gave an interview to Le Monde in Paris in which he said, among other unpleasant things, that, "American and Israeli interests will not be safe, not only in our region but anywhere in the world." So what else is new?
Appeasement is a two-way street. Until now, it has generally been assumed that the U.S. must do the appeasing, and that Arabs and their allies are supposed to be appeased. It is this basic formula that not only the Bush administration, but the U.S. at large has grown sick of. They get nothing for their appeasements but more grief; just as Israel received no benefits -- only more blown-up buses -- when she wasnât killing Yassin or Rantisi.
Everything else being equal, you might as well smite your mortal enemies. The trick, after all, is to make them appease you. Iâll buy that
David Warren
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This is evident in the common assumption that the Democrat presidential candidate, John Kerry, would offer a kinder, gentler version of American statecraft, and therefore deserves the prayers of the worldâs peaceniks.
Mr. Kerry, though essentially a man of the left, is a political weathercock. Read carefully what he has been saying recently about the U.S. commitment in Iraq, and national interests throughout the region. He is now trying to position himself as hawk to Mr. Bushâs dove, in the "war on terrorism".
I've seen the same thing in my tea leaves too. Things have changed for Americans since 911. The 60's are not quite dead yeat, but they are on life-support and there is no chance of a recovery.
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B - I came of age in the '60's. They can't die too soon for me.
Why anyone would want to keep living in that time period is beyond me. They must have pathetic lives otherwise.
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I think Bush and them are fiqureing out that the American ppl has had enough of playing nice.Time to pull out the extra size baseball bat and start whacking.
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Commentary like David Warren's has been appearing more and more in the last few months. For many of us, the jury is no long out on whether Arab society can be reformed, and rendered benign, by grafting Western-style democracy onto it. The jury has rendered its verdict, and the verdict is: forget about it, these people are hopeless.
I myself am not quite there yet, but that's the direction I'm moving.
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I think Kerry has found that bashing Saudi Arabia enjoys great political resonance across the political spectrum. I expect we'll see more and more of that from him.
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Yeap,I favor the Teddy Roosevelt school of diplomacy"Speak softly and carry a big ass stick"
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Kerry's in a box. If he comes out as a war hawk now, it will be just another flop. "I voted for it before I voted against it - but then I voted for it again"
That's not to say that he won't try to do it, though.
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Nice article. Mike, while I think the Sauds deserve a firm ass-kicking, I personally don't want to pay $5.00 or more/gallon for gas. I have to drive 25 miles to work everyday! That is a dilema that needs much thinking upon. Can we get Iraq to a point where it can supplant lost oil from the Sauds? Or can we secure the Saud oil fields and supply while dragging them into the 21st century (or as close to 21st as we can get them)? Either way, I strongly believe that road to long-term peace (or atleast stability) goes through Riyad.
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I doubt we'll be giving up in Iraq; we'll keep our committment there.
The real question is whether we will be willing to bother going the liberation/reformation route elsewhere in response to future terrorist attacks, or whether we'll respond instead with a war of punishment, or conquest, or even outright extermination.
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Everything else being equal, you might as well smite your mortal enemies. The trick, after all, is to make them appease you.
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You got it TomA. Course TJ also thought war could be mercifully shortened by taking no prisoners and killing out of hand. I'm still wondering if he was right. Pass me a lemon.
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He is now trying to position himself as hawk to Mr. Bushâs dove, in the "war on terrorism".
If he thinks we can depend on John Kerry to be a hawk once in office, he is out of his mind. Kerry knows he has to say hawkish things now to bring middle-of-the roaders on board. Once in office, he will fly the white flag above the white house.
Pick up any newspaper and the headlines are typically about the 9/11 Commission querying what advance warning was available, and what actions (if any) were taken to combat the growing terrorist threat. Even as the press is in a tizzy about these seeming revelations, the FBI has not only identified one glaring hole in the nationâs security system but also pointed out its risks, yet has provoked only a collective yawn in response.
The reason, I surmise, is that the FBI is pointing fingers at one of the most sacred of cows: the Matricula Consular program, or MCAS (for Matricula Consular de Alta Seguridad). What is a MCAS? It is an identification card issued to Mexican nationals residing in the United States by the Mexican government via their 47 consulates here. The cards are issued regardless of the applicantâs immigration status; the FBI believes two million illegal Mexicans are already carrying this form of i.d.
Unlike a traditional passport (which the FBI favors), the Matricula Consular does not readily identify a foreignerâs legal status. Thus, if someone has a valid passport, then he is "legal," but if he presents a Matricula Consular, even one validly issued by a Mexican consulate, that means very little.
.... So, what are the terrorist risks posed by the MCAS? Let me have the FBI explain it in its own words. I quote verbatim from an unclassified Intelligence Assessment report on the topic issued on March 25, 2004, by the FBIâs San Antonio branch. ....
"The most significant issue concerning United States security is that the âMCASâ cards are too easily obtained and are susceptible to forgery and fraudulent use. The âMCASâ can be allegedly fraudulently obtained via the internet for a nominal fee requiring only a set of passport photos, descriptive data, and a return address, to which the âMCASâ will be mailed automatically. The Department of Justice and the FBI have concluded that the consular identification card is not a reliable form of identification, due to the non-existence of any means of verifying the true identity of the card holder. ....
"At the present time, undocumented Mexicans in the United States are the largest beneficiaries of the consular identification card.... However, other countries have also seen the potential to benefit from allowing their citizens the opportunity to obtain a similar card. El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Peru, and Poland are aware of Mexicoâs success in getting their consular identification card accepted in the United States. Argentina has decided to issue a consular identification card to approximately 180,000 Argentineans residing in California.....
The ease of obtaining an âMCASâ became a major concern in the wake of September 11, 2001, due to possible utilization by terrorists. As the use and concept of âMCASâ gains acceptance, the threat of countries hostile to the U.S. or those known to sponsor terrorist organizations issuing said cards is greater. The ability of foreign nationals to use the âMCASâ to create a well-documented, but fictitious, identity in the United States provides an opportunity for terrorists to move freely within the United States without name-based watch lists that are disseminated to local police officers. It also allows them to board planes without revealing their true identities." ....
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When I read the news headlines today, it's about Wacko Jacko and Kobe "The Rapist" Bryant.
There is nothing on the enemies of our south, and the parasites that bring crime and drain our social resources. Let alone, for heaven sake, even the possibility of terrorists from the southern US border!! Nothing like that...that might appear racist or insensitive. Anything to prevent the American people from thinking of the dangers that are flowing into our country everyday. No we can't have them thinking of "them" in that way. Heaven forbid. We might all decide to go out and get guns and start doing our constitutional duty of protecting our BORDERS and slitting some throats!
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consider the news media to be the colliseum of the year 2004. Free entertainment to keep the masses occupied.
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John Long Hair: Hey stupid, I don't recall EVER hearing about a terrorist attack carried out by a poor Mexican farm worker. You're an idiot. You know nothing. Hispanic people are on our side of the WOT. 99% support us. They just want some f***ing food via a job. And you can't get welfare unless you have a green card, stupid! But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you? Ever been to the I.N.S. building in your local city? Why don't you try lining up there at 5 a.m. and waiting for ten f***ing hours to get a stupid piece of paper....Now when it comes to Muslims, I'm all for fingerprinting & photographing the hell out of them as well as SEVERLY restricting their visas. We should also carry out RANDOM surveillance of Muslims in the domestic setting. I also advocate completely ELIMINATING immigration from certian Muslim countries right now, unless there is a CIA or Pentagon waiver, like for foreign nationals that aid our national security, etc. But, you're just an idiotic xenophobe by ranting, pardon the pun, about "illegals." They're ECONOMICALLY driven...JUST LIKE OUR ANCESTORS WERE STUPID. You know I don't think our grandfathers, etc. had to wait TEN FING YEARS!! to get their citizenship, did they? They got off the boat and they were a citizen when they're boots hit the ground. IS THAT FAIR? NAME ONE MEXICAN TERRORIST EVER CAUGHT...You can't. They are 99.9999% CHRISTIANS.
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Kentucky Beef, if you lived in Southern California instead of your PC tower, you might have a clue what you are talking about. Those farm workers who "just want some f***ing food via a job" cost California $7B a year in benefits, clog our schools, have virtually closed most of the emergency rooms in San Diego and Imperial county. It's easier to feel sorry for someone when you don't have to pick up the check, listen to slimy politicians trying to access Motor Voter through driver's licenses for illegals, etc. The Mexicans SHOOT anyone trying to sneak across their southern border. California had a "guest worker" (bracero) program for years before bleeding hearts like you shut it down shut it down as in favor of the midnight run. Unless you're a MEChA member and politically driven, do a little study before you spout specious slogans.
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KB, you're comments are out of touch with reality. California is all minorities. Whites only constitute 49% of the population. The problem with Mexicans is that unlike the other groups, many of them don't want to be Americans. The refuse to assimilate. They want to essentially undo the 19th century and return Aztlan (most of the Southwest) to Mexico. Also, because of a few adverse and unbelievable court decisions, the state has to shell out $7B a year subsidizing illegal aliens (undocumented workers, document challenged citizens, etc). The Golden State is sending most of its gold south these days.
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hey now, we need those mexicans in this country, if for nothing else than to shame our own workers, you ever work with mexicans? I have, 1 can do the labor of 5 americans, as a people we are getting lazy
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dcreeper, it is a true indicator of the impact of the Clinton years on the rule of law in this country that the California Assembly can actually pass a bill specifying that illegal aliens that graduate from California high schools are to be considered "in-state" students for purposes of admission, tuition, and financial aid. With thinking like this, is it any wonder that the state is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. I guess it all depends on what the meaning of illegal is.
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this trend can be reversed...call 'em as they are - illegal aliens. Refuse the PC "undocumented immigrants". The first time a terror attack is perpetrated by someone (Arab, Mexican, it doesn't matter which) sneaking in across teh Mexican border - it will be shut down, and rightfully so. A country that doesn't control it's borders is lost. KB - you're out of line.
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Kentucky Beef, First of all we are talking about ILLEGAL ALIENS. They are here ILLEGALLY - in direct violation of FEDERAL LAWS. That alone tells me that they are not 'law-abiding' people. These cards are not for 'legal aliens' -- they already have valid immigration identification (Visa / Passport / Green Card / etc...) and dont need this card (which by the way is issued by a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT).
I have been to the local INS office. I've been through the process of getting someone a Visa and then a green card. It is not easy -- it is not meant to be. I've had to go throught the black-hole called the Nebraska Service Center for a petition.
Yes the INS is always very busy but is doing the best they can. Are your immigrants too lazy to line up for 3-4 hours to get legal status? The fact of the matter is that they have no legal status and if they did go to the INS office they would be told to leave the country because they are here ILLEGALLY.
Coming to America is a PRIVLEDGE and not a right. There is a LEGAL PROCEDURE to obtain LEGAL admission and immigration -- which performs background and status checks. There are thousands if not millions of people waiting for 10 - 20 years to LEGALLY come to the United States. That is the way it is if you dont like it then change the immigration system or tough shit.
Of course a lot of liberals want the illegal aliens here so they can have their cheap labor and domestic servants and so they can 'feel good' about 'helping some unfortunate, undocumented, worker' (often at taxpayer expense -- look at California!).
Personally I feel we should deport ALL ILLEGALS no matter where they came from. If an alien shows one of these cards they should *have* to prove their legal status or be deported.
American is a land of immigrants all right -- LEGAL immigrants.
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Matricula Consular is another name for waste paper. Not a valid ID, pal, and I will tear it up and toss it in the gutter if you present it. Then I'll drag you over to La Migra, because the odds are damn good you're an illegal.
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hey now, we need those mexicans in this country, if for nothing else than to shame our own workers, you ever work with mexicans? I have, 1 can do the labor of 5 americans, as a people we are getting lazy
Wow, that sure saves you a lot of money, doesn't it? I mean, why pay an American or a legal alien a decent wage (notice how I didn't say "living") when a dirt cheap wage can be given to some illegal who probably won't complain?
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KB -
I am far from any kind of racist.
What part of ILLEGAL do you not understand?
You agree with me that ILLEGALS are problem?
The exact people that you got your panties in a bunch over are the same ones being used as something "less" than cattle.
What is to stop the Islamo Fascists from getting these MCAS cards?
You might not pay for thier services at the check stand, but you do pay for them.
Btw - You got a problem with protecting our borders?
If you know anything about the history of the US border with Mexico.....I don't think you would resort to name calling.
Not unless you are some leftist pinko "person of the world" type. Then I am afraid in my world, you might be one of the first people of the left that is ruining my country to be put up against the wall!!
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Not unless you are some leftist pinko "person of the world" type. Then I am afraid in my world, you might be one of the first people of the left that is ruining my country to be put up against the wall!!
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I just don't see the big deal, people have loved to hate the Mexican folks since the 20s or 30s, did you know weed was originally outlawed with the hopes of encouraging the Mexicans to stop coming to our country? weird but true :-p
as for the state being near bankruptcy.. last I heard that was claimed to be the fault of the previous gov'ner + some kinda shoddy business practices by the energy companies...
immigration is often called the life blood of our country, keeps us young and freedom loving, few people are as patriotic as an new american, they know what it is like on the outside.. I canât claim to be an expert on the matter, buh I certainly prefer first/second generation American women to others, they tend to resist the shitty female culture we have around here
(does it bother anyone else that despite the fact that we have institutionalized women as being legally the equal of men, we still, as a culture, raise them to be weaker?)
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dcreeper, I agree that immigration is the lifeblood of America and that we are a nation of immigrants. That is why I specifically mention LEGAL aliens. (I am happily married to a LEGAL alien!). And no, I am not going to comment on the 'female culture' around here.
The problem is that LEGAL aliens do not have any use for this card -- they already have valid immigraion documentation (visa & passport, Green Card, etc....) which is difficult to forge. What the hell would they need this card for?
This card is an attempt by the Mexican government (and certain treasonous U.S. politicians on both sides) to circumvent Federal immigration laws and give illegal aliens psuedo 'documentation'. As mentioned these cards are easy to forge.
And you do pay for ILLEGAL aliens. Increased 'medical' costs (an illegal alien gets free medical - I had to pay thru the nose for my son's birth), increased public education costs (including having a entirely seperate set of classrooms taught in spanish in Californina), police protection (these are not 'law abiding' people by definition), etc....
In other news, Pope and bear. Tape at 11:00
Officials from Muslim nations have denounced US policies on Israel and Iraq at a meeting in Malaysia. Members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference urged Washington to drop its support for Israelâs plan to keep some settlements in the West Bank. Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi compared Israelâs treatment of the Palestinians with atrocities suffered by the Jews in the past. On Iraq, he said the hopes sparked by Saddam Husseinâs fall had not been met. Ya know, peopleâs heads should explode when they indulge in this sort of flagrant hypocrisy.
The meeting of the OIC was due to be held next month, but Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat called for it to be brought forward after US President George W Bush backed Israelâs plan for the Middle East. Under the plan, Israel would dismantle Jewish settlements in the Gaza Strip but retain some of the West Bank land captured in the 1967 war. Mr Abdullah told the meeting in Putrajaya that the blueprint contradicted "the essence of the way to peace". In their draft statement on the Middle East, delegates said the plan was "detrimental to the peace process". The plan has also been fiercely criticised by Palestinian leaders, who say any settlement must be negotiated on the basis of UN resolutions. Mr Abdullah condemned suicide bombings by Palestinian militants, but said Israelâs "state terrorism" and "cruel assassination" of Hamas leaders had even more severe consequences. "Indeed the terror inflicted on Palestinians by Israel are beginning to assume the characteristics of atrocities once encountered by the Jews themselves," he said.
Turning to Iraq, the Malaysian prime minister said: "The hopes and expectations of the international community which followed the ending of the war against Iraq on 1 May 2003 have not been met." "Gone are the joy and jubilation of some Iraqis (at) the collapse of the regime of Saddam Hussein," he added. He said the current violence was "nothing less than the fierce resistance of people against what is increasingly seen as an occupation force". About 20 of the OICâs 57 members attended the meeting - although only Pakistan, Indonesia and the Palestinians sent foreign ministers. And these "leaders" wonder why their tinpot governments are being toppled like so many dominoes? Go figure.
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When are these Mutant, Flea Bitten Sand Monkeys going to understand.
That the only reason they are still drawing breath.
Is that Bush and Sharon haven't decided when and where to make them stop drawing breath!
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The UNRWA doesn't need to bring food past a border crossing with Israel. There's a fine port in Gaza that has the latest equipment and facilities for unloading container ships, a local population that's industrious and willing to work hard for a living, and leadership that puts the needs of the people first.
And, as Fred says, I have a full head of hair.
This is an excellent illustration of what's wrong with the Paleos. Faced with a food shortage, they continue to attack the very people who control the border crossing through which the food comes. Very intelligent, those Paleos.
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SW - you've gotta close that comment with a /sarcasm. Otherwise all my following comments will be cynical and sarcastic. I hope Yasser gets better houseguests....
see?
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Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi said Wednesday that instability in Iraq was a threat to Iran's security and that his nation wants to help make the upcoming transfer of power in Iraq succeed. Iran was not playing a mediating role in neighboring Iraq, Kharrazi said, but he added that Tehran had sent a fact-finding delegation "to see what is the real situation, what are the views of different people." The official Islamic Republic News Agency reported last week that a top Foreign Ministry official, Hossein Sadeghi, was sent to Iraq to consult with members of the U.S.-appointed Governing Council and Iraqi clerics.
Tehran and Washington have held behind-the-scenes communication on how to restore order in Iraq. Iran has great influence in mostly Shiite southern Iraq and has an interest in the success of the U.S.-led political process. Kharrazi met French President Jacques Chirac and said he planned talks with U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi, who favors dissolving the U.S.-backed Governing Council and setting up a caretaker government. The caretaker government would be chosen by the United Nations, the current Governing Council, the U.S. coalition authority and a select group of Iraqi judges. "Security in Iraq has a direct impact on our security, therefore we believe that as soon as possible, power has to be transferred to Iraqis," Kharrazi said.
"Tater wasn't able to set off a real uprising, so we're making the best of what's left. Once we've got an administration set up by the UN, we can start subverting it..."
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This is enough to make one believe in alternate realities. I wonder how the list of politicians on the take from Iran compares to those on the "Oil for Food" list.
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Tehran had sent a fact-finding delegation "to see what is the real situation, what are the views of different people"
First time a fact-finding delegation carried RPG's
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Iranian Foreign Minister Kamal Kharrazi said Wednesday that instability in Iraq was a threat to Iran's security and that his nation wants to help make the upcoming transfer of powerto Iranin Iraq succeed.
Iran's intentions in Iraq are equally pure as their nuclear science group's avowed intent of only generating electrical power.
The "instability in Iraq" is seen as a threat for one reason only. For the first time ever, this conflict has the potential to become a genuine stepping stone towards Iran's downfall as well. Especially after their routine sabotage "unhelpful" contributions to Iraq's rebuilding. With Iran as a midwife, any democracy in Iraq is sure to be stillborn or strangled in its cradle.
Supreme Leader Khamenei declared this Iranâs year of accountability. He could start by determining why Tehranâs newest and grandest international airport remains unusable, almost three months after being inaugurated amid much fanfare.
The Imam Khomeini International Airport near Tehran cost a total of 2.6 trillion rials plus $60 [million], IRNA reported on 31 January. It is intended to handle about 6 million passengers its first phase, 15 million in the second phase, and 40 million a year when the third phase is complete; IRNA did not specify when this would be....
Yet the airport still cannot be used, according to Radio Farda on 14 April, because construction on the project is below par and does not conform to international standards. The original project engineers quit after the end of the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War, and the government at that time allowed the Oppressed and Disabled Foundation (Bonyad-i Mostazafan va Janbazan) to take over the airport project. The foundation changed many of the original specifications. As a result, the runways were made with asphalt instead of cement and must be repaved; neither the electrical power nor the runway lighting function properly; and the aircraft refueling equipment is inadequate. Until these problems are resolved, Radio Farda reported, the airport cannot be used.
Only a truly tightly wound turban would turn management over to the "Oppressed and Disabled Foundation" and be surprised when things didnât quite work as planned.
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My thought is....are there truly 40 million people out there who want to visit Tehran? Why such a big capacity (except that it looks good to the people)?
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so, except for the crappy runways, non-operative electrical (bet the control tower's a technological treat), inadequate refueling, this edifice of magnificence would be humming along?
Those're just punchlist items.... Let's get this show rolling! Chop-chop!
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Do they rotate air traffic controllers during calls for prayer?
... Twenty-five years after Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini led the revolution that toppled Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, a dozen families with religious ties control much of Iranâs $110 billion gross domestic product and shape its politics, industries and finances, says Ray Takeyh, a professor and director of studies at National Defense Universityâs Near East and South Asia Center in Washington and coauthor of The Receding Shadow of the Prophet: The Rise and Fall of Radical Political Islam. The Rafsanjanis -- who have investments in pistachio farming, real estate, automaking and a private airline worth a total of $1 billion -- are among the best connected and most influential of the families, Takeyh says.
Rafsanjani, 69, has wielded power since the creation of the Islamic Republic in 1979, when he served on the Revolutionary Council under Khomeini. Mohsen Hashemi, 43, Rafsanjaniâs oldest son, heads a $2 billion project to build Tehranâs subway. Yasser Hashemi, 32, the youngest son, runs a horse farm north of Tehran in the exclusive suburb of Lavasan, where an acre of land costs $2 million. Mehdi Hashemi Rafsanjani, 34, the son whose contact with Statoil led to the police search, was a director at National Iranian Gas Co. and heads the unit that develops compressed natural gas for cars.
"The whole Iranian economy is set up to benefit the privileged few," Takeyh says. "Rafsanjani is the most adept, the most notorious and the most privileged." ... many details in the article
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And when you slice through the theology or ideology it is always about 1% holding down the other 99%. Of course they've got to coopt 5% to help with the apparatus of oppression.
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Lol! Good catch, SH. This is classic Arab-think. When we read it, we perceive the duplicity, natural corruption, whining, obvious casualty bullshit, etc. In writing it, however, I'm sure the 2 IWPR "Trainees" thought they were painting a black picture of American brutality. The Ukes were useless, little more than mere placeholders. Now that some real troops are there and maintaining real vigilence and tolerating none of the Madhi Army or holy poster bullshit, they whine, lie, and long for the good old days of the simple friendly corruptible Ukranians. Fuck 'em. If --I-- was running the current occupation...
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Ditto .com. Hussein Ali and Naser Kadhem, the IWPR trainees, will one day master the art of propaganda. Right now they are humorously nibbling on the edge of that alternate reality inhabited by jihadist losers and their enablers.
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Actually .com, all the IWPR stuff is pretty balanced and is pretty careful about protraying hearsay as hearsay. They get inside places that Fox News can't go because they are locals (plus everyone associates Arab jounalism with Al Jizz), but their coverage just reflects the actual opinions of the locals. Notice how they included the petty graft of the Ukrainian forces and the fact that they bokked without orders.
IWPR partners or receives funding with quite a few organizations full of Ass-clowns, but read a sample of their webpage. It looks like the place is training real jounalists not the hacks we get in the United States. Many of the stories you find are very simular to what you get when you read Zeyed, but more professionally done.
I read their site when I tire of the 24 hour news sources regurgitating the same stories. The stuff from NC News provides excellent detailed stuff from the otherside of the trenches as well.
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"Through binoculars provided by one of the fighters, we see two burnt-out Humvees and a personnel carrier on our side of the bridge - the result, the insurgents say, of a morning ambush which began the battle. But they have not been able to score any kills since. "The vehicles have a magnetic field which makes our rockets miss," one of the insurgents said."
How do you say tinfoil hat in Arabic?
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Our guide says nothing, but we become angry in return. "How can you say this? We are Iraqis, we are Muslims - we came here to help you, because the Americans aren't telling the truth about casualties," we claimed, and show them our photographs of damaged houses in Gurma.
Nice unbiased reporting. I give it a 5.6 on the bullshit meter. Not quite as high as Al-jitzz but a possible contender with more practice.
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This type of credulous self-delusion is why Islamic civilization has been in retreat since September 12, 1683 when King John Sobieski III of Poland beat back the Turks from the gates of Vienna. This type of propaganda is why so many of their young men die surprised.
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CF, I read the passage much differently than you did. The way I read the story was that the IWPR reporters adopted a Al Jizz persona to make it through the checkpoint so that they could get their report. In some case they seem to report embellished stories, but they portray them as 2nd hand reports that are unverified.
Their work is excellent in that it portrays the one brave guy as being able to walk down the street an obtain humanitarian supplies from the mosque without being plugged between the eyes.
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Neither, one learns, as the conversation turns to the war and politics, has Mr. Grammerâs publicly expressed scorn for certain of the wilder manifestations of antiwar, antiadministration mania now emanating from Hollywood. The entertainment world, he notes genially, isnât crowded with people who share his views, but he gets along. "I didnât mind waving the flag a little bit " he allows. He does mind the poisonous political atmosphere, the class-hatred themes in the rhetoric of Ted Kennedy and other Democrats. "That stuff is so repugnant to me." ...
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We know about "the good doctor" out here on the left coast. It was a rumor that he was considering a run in the GOP primary, as was Dennis Miller, but neither wanted to give up lucrative careers.
DUDE, WHEREâS YOUR WEBSITE: MICHAEL MOORE OUT-SOURCING DESIGN, SERVER TO CANADA!
Advocate Michael Moore may have released a book titled DUDE, WHEREâS MY COUNTRY?, and may have vaulted to stardom documenting workerâs rights and corporate malfeasance in Flint, Michigan, but that has not stopped Moore from outsourcing his website design and servers -- to companies based in Canada!
remember - only Republican outsourcers are bad. Democrat outsourcer are encouraging entrepreneurship in underdeveloped countries!
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A Jordanian man has turned himself in to police after stabbing to death his pregnant sister who married an Egyptian man against the familyâs will, the Jordan Times reported on Thursday. The woman, who was not identified, was eight months pregnant with a baby boy when her brother killed her on Tuesday with 25 stab wounds to different parts of her body, the newspaper said quoting an official source. Her brother called the police after committing the murder in the family home and waited for them to come and arrest him, the newspaper said. âWhen the investigators arrived to the scene, the suspect told them he killed his sibling to cleanse the familyâs honour using a kitchen knife,â the daily quoted the official as saying. According to an initial investigation the victim married an Egyptian man against her familyâs wishes a year ago and left for Egypt. She returned home last week to give birth. Her death brings to five the number of women killed in so-called âhonour crimesâ in Jordan this year, according to a Jordan Times tally. Seventeen women were killed in similar crimes last year. seventeen? yeah, right, sure.
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Why'd she "go home" to give birth? Seems like if she knew there was family problems with the husband, she could give birth in Egypt, or am I missing something?
Also, if they execute the brother for murder - what happens to him in the hereafter?
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âWhen the investigators arrived to the scene, the suspect told them he killed his sibling to cleanse the familyâs honour using a kitchen knife,â
When the entire world is cleansed of this mentality, it won't be too soon.
Glued to computer screens in a Cairo cybercafe, Egyptian teenagers lead United States forces against China and a shadowy Middle Eastern group, while most of the country seethes in anger against US policy in the region. The US-produced computer game Command and Conquer: Generals portrays a scenario in which the US and China battle the Global Liberation Army (GLA), a Middle Eastern underground movement with a fondness for chemical weapons. The teenagers say the game reinforces the western image of Arabs as "terrorists" with introductory scenes showing them gunning down civilians and stealing US aid, but the graphics and high-octane action keeps them hooked. "I really like the game. I play it every day. I miss it if I donât play it for a day. I know itâs racist but what can I do? Itâs a good game," said 16-year-old Ahmed Mohsen. The teenagers, all students at an American high school in Cairo, say they are annoyed that games, movies, comics and books from the United States portray Arabs as cruel fanatics but despair that there are no Arab companies that can make products to redress the balance.
There's probably a reason for that...
"You canât boycott American products because the substitutes are no good. There is no way an Egyptian company can make good quality games," said 18-year-old Ahmed Abdel Qader.
"I think it comes from having to whack your head on the floor five times a day..."
Other Egyptian fans use the virtual characters to take out real-world frustrations. "Some people enjoy playing as the GLA against America so they can fight the American army," said Mohsen. Mohsen says he does not play the GLA, not because of any political opinion but because the US forces in the game are superior. "You know they made it and will make their army the best," he said. The website for Generals, produced by computer game giant Electronic Arts says the armies were "inspired by real-world ideologies". "The GLA uses weapons like toxic weapons, car bombs and suicide bombers. The game makers make the Arabs look like evil bastards," said 16-year-old Amir al-Gindy, taking a break from intimidating his friends with a huge Chinese army.
"... but that's just propaganda. Really, we're nice fellows."
In three dimensional battlegrounds spread over Central Asia and the Middle East, US weapons verging on science fiction, such as the supersonic Aurora Bomber, battle the GLAâs low-tech poison spraying toxin tractor and the bomb truck. Although the game does not directly identify the GLA as Arab, the names of the rebels sound vaguely Arabic without being real Arabic names. The characters speak in what could be described as Arabic accents. In other scenes, different nationalities are drawn into the GLA umbrella. One scene shows the angry mob the GLA can muster - women in black veils and men wearing Afghan hats. The Egyptian teenagers say the message is not very subtle. "The GLA represents all of the USâs enemies in one role. They are what the US calls terrorists," said Abdel Qader. "They might as well make Osama bin Laden one of the generals," said Mohsen.
Not a bad idea...
Zero Hour, an expansion to the game, allows players to assume the personalities of different commanders. One GLA general who specialises in stealth operations wears combat fatigues with an Arab scarf around his head and clutches an AK-47 rifle while snarling at the camera. Gindy, who has lived and studied in Canada for a large part of his life, says the gameâs portrayal of the GLA influences young people in the west. "When you play the game online, young kids about my own age will ask where I am from. When I say âEgyptâ, they think I live in a shack," he said. "The GLAâs crappy bases just pushes the idea that Arabs are backwards and people in other countries end up believing this."
"I hate it when that happens. I always kill them."
In spite of their strong feelings about the portrayal of Arabs, the teenagers say most Egyptians have found a way to enjoy the game with a clear conscience. "People buy fake versions of the game, so they say âwell at least Iâm not giving the game makers any money,â."
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In other news the govt of Egypt protested the US attempt to undermine their youths intelligence by sending them RTS clickfests "Really, if they want to transform the region, shouldnt they send us sophisticated games about imperialism, like Victoria, or even Imperialism II, or games about building up our cities, like Simcity4??? We demand these games immediately!!!"
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When the game plot sounds like the daily news, how can it be "racist"?
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Because it doesn't sound like *Egypt's* daily news, RC. I've never even seen the game, so I really shouldn't comment... I'm more of a turn-based guy.
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Hmmm...I wonder what exactly the "Global Liberation Army" is liberating the globe from. The scourge of the Teletubbies? Genetically modified corn and polio shots? The Archbishop of Canterbury? Just asking.
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"teenagers say the game reinforces the western image of Arabs as 'terrorists'" Point of order here: aren't the great majority of 'terrorists' we face today Arabs? The truth may hurt but it is still the truth! I am going to go out and buy that game now!
"You canât boycott American products because the substitutes are no good And that is why we will win."
Remember during the cold war in the early 1980s. There was a suggestion that we would triumph in the end because our youth were playing a Flight Simulator game at the arcade, while the Russian Youths were playing Backgammon and Chess?
We ought to keep that in mind when hearing of a story like this.
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The Egyptian teenagers say the message is not very subtle.
And the terrorists with their ongoing atrocities are? Think of it as a little reciprocity.
When Islamic countries finally educate their people well enough to design semiconductor devices and operate wafer fabrication lines, they can go ahead and figure out how to write the several thousand lines of code needed to produce some of their own games.
Until then, suck on the hindmost titty little kitty.
I suppose they could be Swedish, too...
Superintendent of South Yorkshire Police Kevin Morton has said that Pakistani police officers have the ability to learn new policing techniques and will come up to international standards soon.
"Define 'soon'"?
"Well, to a geologist..."
He was talking at a dinner hosted by the British Council in Lahore on Wednesday in honour of a visiting four-member South Yorkshire Police delegation consisting of Mr Morton, Mohammad Aref, police ambassador and coordinator between Yorkshire and Punjab Police, and forensics officers Christopher Gillies and Gary Atkinson. The delegation conducted a three-day training programme for 57 deputy superintendents, assistant superintendents and superintendents of Punjab Police at the Police Training School in Chung. âWe have taught the Pakistani cops new techniques of community policing, forensic science, professional standards and training methodology and hope our training will help them upgrade their investigations,â said Mr Morton.
Did you teach them that not every suspected miscreant deserves a sound beating on the spot? That they're not required to suck the slippers of the local nazim?
âSouth Yorkshire Police aims to continue to build good working relationships with the police forces in Pakistan in the spirit of true friendship and partnership, to incorporate and explore new and existing ideas about sharing intelligence systems policing and training methods.â South Yorkshire is a county in the north of England that has a high percentage of people of Pakistani origin.
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There is no reason Pakistanis should not do as well in the current globalisation process as Indians, since they have the âsame DNA,â according to leading American journalist Thomas L Friedman.
... except for the turbans. They keep getting in the way...
Friedman, who recently returned from India where he studied and wrote about Indiaâs outreach to the world in the globalisation race, said in an interview to âIndia Abroad,â this week, âI am a big believer that Pakistanis have the same DNA as Indians. There is absolutely no reason they couldnât be as brainy, or arenât as brainy, as anyone in Banglore. To me, it all about the system that you live in ... If Pakistan had the same system as India, I have absolutely no doubt Pakistan would be competing with India right now and it would have its own Infosys-es. But it doesnât have that system. Why it doesnât have that system is a long historical tale and Iâm not going to go into that because people know it better than I do.â
Somehow, a madrassah education and infosys don't seem to go together. Burning off your excess population in jihad doesn't add to the GDP, either.
He said, âIndia is developing call centres and Saudi Arabia is developing madrassas. One is calling the world in a perfect accent; the other is calling God, in only one language. I like the India model.â
Don't say that too loud. Somebody will fatwah your ass...
Mr Friedman of the New York Times, who is respected in the Middle East for his balanced analysis of the Palestinian question, warned against the excesses of private business by stressing that private enterprise and public space âhave got to mergeâ at some point because it is ânot socially sustainable that people live in golden enclaves while poverty of the most wretched kind exists right outside their door.â
On the other hand, you can change the definition of "poverty," as we do in this country. Remember, Tom? The country you live in? Where the po' folks have cell phones and color teevees? Where obesity's a problem and malnutrition isn't?
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âI am a big believer that Pakistanis have the same DNA as Indians. There is absolutely no reason they couldnât be as brainy, or arenât as brainy, as anyone in Banglore."
Is it just me-- or isn't this remark blatantly racist?
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if we ever need to outsource for someone to recite Koran verses while bumping their forehead on the carpet, Pakland's the place...otherwise? Naaaahhhhh
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Get turbans on 'em early...
The commissionâs report said that courses should be devised so that after passing the primary level students should be able to read a newspaper, write letters and recite the Holy Quran.
All 6,666 verses? Or just the ones pertaining to jihad?
The commission recommended the introduction of the Quran at the primary school level and necessary steps should be taken to enable students to recite the Holy Quran with exact pronunciation. Some select verses from the Holy Quran should be included so students can learn them by heart, it said.
Like the ones dealing with death and destruction...
The report also suggested the introduction of fundamentals of Arabic at primary school. Islamic economic, social, political, judicial and moral systems should be introduced from class six to class ten while 40 Hadiths (sayings of the Holy Prophet PBUH) relevant to these systems should also be included. A member of the commission has also suggested the translation of five chapters of the Quran in the courses of class six to class ten.
It'll help them get into medical school...
The commission also proposed the induction of Islamic history as an optional subject for class nine. For female students in class nine and ten, the commission suggested the informal and additional inclusion of those parts of the book âBahishti Zewarâ by Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanivi that deal with issues related to women.
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Despite a court order to return the all-liberal radio network to Chicago, it appears the Windy City wonât have Air America by the end of this month, leaving New York City as the sole Top 10 market for the fledgling company.
The Chicago Tribune reports Air America will cease broadcasting over WNTD-AM in Chicago April 30, and will remain off the air for now in Los Angeles, where it was yanked from KBLA-AM last week by station owner Multicultural News Radio.
Los Angeles and Chicago are the nationâs No. 2 and 3 media markets respectively, according to ratings service Arbitron.
Besides No. 1 market New York, Air Americaâs next largest region is No. 16 Minneapolis, with other affiliates in Portland, Ore., Riverside, Calif., West Palm Beach, Fla., Key West, Fla., Chapel Hill, N.C.,and Plattsburgh/Burlington on the New York-Vermont border.
Programming also can be heard on XM Satellite Radio as well as the Internet, and the company says "coming soon" markets include No. 4 San Francisco.
Air America features liberal personalities including comic and author Al Franken and actress Janeane Garofalo, and was floated as an alternative to conservative radio talent such as Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage and Sean Hannity. And the idea did float; like a turd in a punch bowl...
As WorldNetDaily reported last week, the network was silenced in both L.A. and Chicago during a payments dispute with Multicultural Radio, which alleged Air America had bounced checks, a charge strongly denied by the liberal network. They have money for lawyers but not to pay their bills. Funny that...
A Chicago source familiar with the situation told the Tribune "a Multicultural representative showed up at WNTDâs offices, ... kicked out Air Americaâs lone staffer overseeing the networkâs feed to the station from New York, switched over to a Spanish-language feed, and changed the locks on the doors."
Air America has since won a court order to return it to the air in Chicago, but yesterday said that it would stop broadcasting on WNTD at the end of this month as it reached a deal with Multicultural.
"We are pleased that we reached a negotiated settlement," said David Goodfriend, executive vice president of Air America, in a brief statement.
"Weâve been vindicated," Gene Heinemeyer, general manager of Multiculturalâs New York stations told the Tribune. "It was a dark day in radio for what they did."
Air America isnât giving up on Chicago, however, and is reportedly in preliminary talks with another station, WONX-AM. Certified funds or a cashierâs check this time I bet...
"If their money is green and thereâs enough of it, OK," station owner Frank Kovas, a self-described political conservative, told the Tribune.
Industry analysts say Air America definitely has an uphill battle in reaching financial success in broadcasting.
"The liberal talkers are not only battling the conservatives for air time, they are up against the sports talkers, on-air counselors, medical advisers, computer talk geeks and so on," writes Jeffrey McCall, professor of communication arts and sciences at DePauw University in Indiana. "This is a tough party to crash." Trust the smartest interviewee, the intellectual, to get it wrong. Trying to get a widespread audience for an ideology that is anathema to the entire economic structure of the radio industry. Smarmy, lame jokes, sentimentalism, environmentalism, mentalism. I havenât even named a tenth of the amount of baggage they haul onto the airwaves.
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Air Amerika has been a great success for the CONSERVATIVES! The Libs have trotted out there 'best' face and have pretty much fallen on it. After all the hoopla of the 'first day' not much has become of the gang over at AA. I listened to two shows on different days and I couldn't handle more than five minutes. The koolaid crowd might lap that stuff up but few mainstream Americans will listen to their hatefest. However since they are paying to broadcast they have become an 18-hour infomercial for the left wingers. Must cost a ton to pay for that much air time!
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Who thought the infomercial model for spreading their opinions was a good idea anyway? They should have created shows and then tried to syndicate them out. They could have been in far more markets a lot faster, of course the shows would then have to compete.
I guess that's the rub isn't it.
Does anyone know if a commercial-free radiostation gets the rated by the same viewer/numbers neilson system?
National Committee on Curriculum has decided to immediately summon the authors of textbooks to inquire about the over looking practices in the textbooks and to present the facts to the public so that the real lobby behind the controversy should be brought to book. The author of the text books for Islamiyat, Qari Abdul Rasheed informed the participants that no Arabic verses or chapters regarding Jehad have been totally deleted from the Islamiyat textbooks of SSC and HSSC, rather than the verses like Surra-e-Saff, Surra-e-Mumthehena and Surra-e-Anfall, having more content and urge for Jihad been added, according to the curricula which was revised in 2002.
Dr. Fareeda Ahmad, who was alone representing MMA also agreed that there was no deletion of the verses and chapters regarding Jihad form the Islamiyat textbooks. She told the committee that she had personally reviewed all the textbooks and found that the allegation leveled by the MMA was baseless, though she pointed out certain anomalies in the curricula, which were accepted by the Punjab textbook board. All the provincial education minister have been directed to submit their comments and suggestions to strengthen the respective textbook boards and also to make the curricula more balanced, enlightened and moderate, putting more emphasis on the basic teaching and tenets of Islam.
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Sorry, I tried to edit it down so that it made some sort of sense.
Essentially it is saying that the rather than taking Jihadi out of the textbooks, there have actually been more Jihad verses added, so the MMA has no reason to complain.
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Yeah....that's right....Teach the kids all about the insanity called "jihad". Their world will disappear one of these days......in a mushroom cloud, because of it. We're going to get tired of fucking with these raghead bastards.....it's just a matter of time. I can't think of a better reason to use nukes.
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NWFP Governor Syed Iftikhar Hussain Shah said on Wednesday that in certain Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) areas the female literacy rate was almost 0.5 percent and efforts were underway to boost education not only in the province but also in the FATA.
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How does the ability to read help you knit a rug, milk a goat or marry your Uncle?
/facetious
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A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic call to prayer five times each day. But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck, Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6 a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive. "When you call to prayer, you are proselytizing, and as a citizen of the United States I don't want to hear it," Bob Golen, 68, told the Detroit Free Press.
"It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ," Caroline Zarski, 81, said. "I don't want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m." The Al-Islah Islamic Center asked the city three months ago to alter its noise ordinance to allow the calls to prayer. In February, the council reportedly supported the change but sought a public hearing before making any change. "We don't want to make it a big deal," said businessman Abdul Algazali, according to the Free Press. "It's a low-pitched voice. It's not going to wake up anybody." City Council President Karen Majewski compared the call to prayer to bells ringing on Christian churches, though other residents were said to disagree at Tuesday's meeting.
Majewski says the loudspeaker measure is likely to pass at next week's meeting, and would subsequently take effect in late May. "Petitions have circulated among mainly white and Christian members of the community for weeks asking the council not to amend the ordinance," said Councilman Scott Klein. "Both sides have issued threats of federal lawsuits based on the constitutionality of the ban or the removal of the ban." There are five mosques in Hamtramck, and three others just over the border in Detroit. On its website, the city says it provides "A Touch of THE WORLD In America," touting itself as "the home of the most varied ethnic mix of people and customs from around the world."
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A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic call to prayer five times each day.
Couldn't they all just wear headphones so that the rest of us don't feel like we're in Somalia. Come to think of it some sections of Detroit have that open dumpster in the hot sun smell that means Ummah to me.
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SH - nope, nope, no headphones. It's in the Koran somewhere. You could look it up...
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Free speech is not unlimited in practice. You are not legally permitted to yell "fire!" in a crowded theater nor are you allowed to make death threats to people. Municipal codes have well established restrictions on amplified audio broadcasts made during off hours. While church bells can be defined as a call to prayer, there is no intrinsically theistic message carried by their ringing. In addition, the overwhelming majority of their operation during off hours is to provide a timekeeping function which is bereft of any religious significance. Ergo, their comparison with the Adhan has insufficient merit for co-consideration.
Communities with a Muslim majority might conceivably be able to pass exceptions to local noise ordinances but they would have to be carried by a larger voting share than 51% and most definitely should not be subject to a city council vote. I would venture that, like some property tax measures, a two-thirds majority would be required.
I see this issue as being more of an attorney's billing opportunity than anything else.
I'm sure they won't mind when the Jews, Catholics, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, Mormons, Christian Scientists, Jehovahâs Witnesses, 7th Day Adventists, Buddhists Wiccaâs, Druids, Satanists, atheists and all the other religions get to do the same .
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End result - outlaw chirch bells. I'm sure that the ACLU is on it.
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C'mon, everybody knows that Hamtramck is like the 3,047th most holiest site in Islam! Why shouldn't it have the Black Tongue of Mordor piped o'er the land?
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Cthulhu Akbar :
Why shouldn't it have the Black Tongue of Mordor piped o'er the land?
I thought Frodo and Sam destroyed the Sauronian sect at Mt. Doom? Does the black tongue live on? YIKES!
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Church bells are NOT usually rung to call the faithful, there are rung AFTER the service. Don't the speakers sound a bit Orwellian? I would make sure the ones near my house 'malfunctioned' after the first 'screech to prayer' that I heard over my TV.
WINDHOEK, Namibia (AP) - Brushing off fears of Zimbabwe-style farm invasions, President Sam Nujoma assured Namibians on Wednesday that a land expropriation program would be conducted in a legal and orderly manner.
"We'll say it's legal, and they'll stay calm -- or else!"
Most of Namibia's productive farmland is owned by whites who make up less than 5 percent of the country's 1.8 million people. The government is in the process of identifying a number of white-owned commercial farms for redistribution to landless blacks.
The plan, combined with union threats to invade some farms, has raised fears of the kind of violent land seizures that have plunged neighboring Zimbabwe into political and economic turmoil.
Now why would anyone think of Bob-land?
But Nujoma insisted the owners of expropriated farms would be compensated and the country's constitution respected. "Any concerns about land reform should be laid to rest," he said Wednesday in his last state of the nation address.
"Trust me!"
Nujoma's close relationship with Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe has stoked fears in Namibia that land expropriation might be equally violent and unjust. Nujoma has stood by Mugabe as Zimbabwe has grown increasingly isolated over the government's violent suppression of the opposition. Nujoma, who has led Namibia since independence from South Africa in 1990, plans to retire next year after presidential elections this coming November.
Yeah, s-u-u-u-ure he does.
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The steps from capitalism to totalitarianism
Step one - ruin local agriculture
Step two - convince international investors that all property is at risk of confiscation
Step three - apply for free food
Step four - gain control of food distribution
etc.
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There is a lesson from history for whites in Namibia and Zimbabwe - GET OUT...GET OUT NOW!!
Scrape together every penny you can get and get out!! This is going to get far worse before it gets better. Cut your losses and RUN!
When I was young, I use to watch those NAZI movies and wonder several things. One was...why didn't the Jews leave. At some point, when they were wearing stars and their neighbors disappeared, why didn't they just GO??? As I got older, I realized it's not that easy to drop your job, life, home, etc. and that optimism was most likely the culprit.
But there comes a time when you have to face the reality of a situation as it exists. Unless your plan is to stay and fight, possibly to the death....GO!!!! At least send your families away.
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Yet another African leader drunk on Marxist ideology. Namibia will wake up from this nightmare but not anytime soon and not before the inevitable mass murders Marxists are famous for committing take place
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lots of countries have instituted land reform over the years, including Taiwan. Land reform in Taiwan did not lead to totalitarianism, it did not even lead to socialism.
Of course there are smart and not so smart ways to do land reform. and of course compensation is necessary so that property owners in general can have security (Im quite sure thats how it was done in Taiwan) It may also help to have a relatively homogenous society (like Taiwan) and a relatively low degree of corruption (which IIUC was true in Taiwan by the '50s, despite the KMT corruption on the mainland). Not sure ANY african country can pull it off.
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