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Africa North
Morocco bans Islamist party and detains leader
Morrocan authorities on Wednesday banned the Islamist Al Badil Al Hadari party after detaining its leader on terrorism charges, Prime Minister Abbas El Fassi announced in a statement. Al Badil Al Hadari, or Alternative Civilization, is led by Mustapha Moatassim, who was one of 32 people, including several Islamic politicians, reported detained on Monday and Tuesday, by official media. A security source told AFP several arms were seized during the raids.
'Alternative Civilization': I'm trying to decide how appropriate that name is for an Islamicist party.
Hint: Alternative, sure. Civilization, not so much.
I always thought there was but one 'alternative' to civilization.
Al Badil Al Hadari contested national elections last September but failed to win a seat in the national assembly.
This article starring:
Al Badil Al Hadari, or Alternative Civilization, is led by Mustapha Moatassim
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Islamist Coward Assholes" must have already been taken?
Posted by: Frank G || 02/22/2008 13:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Alternative Civilization sounds like the name of some chichi gay bar, or a bad 90's new wave band...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/22/2008 13:14 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Kuwait’s opposition expels members over Hezbollah row
KUWAIT CITY - Kuwait’s opposition Popular Action Bloc expelled two of its members for attending a rally in memory of Imad Muganiyeh, a top commander of the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah who was killed last week in Syria, a local newspaper said on Thursday. The two Shiite members of parliament - Adnan Abdel-Samad and Ahmed Lari - were expelled for taking part in the “rally to mourn the terrorist Imad Muganiyeh who brutally killed Kuwaitis” during a 1988 plane hijacking, the party said in a statement carried by the Kuwait Times daily.
"Get out and stay out!"
The occasion was the first time the emirate has officially named Muganiyeh as the perpetrator of the 16-day hijacking, which was the second by Shiite militants demanding the release of 17 Shiites imprisoned in Kuwait for bombing the US and French embassies and Kuwaiti targets in December 1983. The prisoners escaped from prison when Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 2, 1990.

At the February 16 rally, both MPs said there was no evidence of Muganiyeh’s involvement in the hijacking.

The Kuwaiti government condemned the rally Monday and said it would take legal action to “safeguard national unity.” Two days later, four Kuwaiti lawyers filed a suit against the MPs and other Shiite figures who took part in the rally. There have been calls by other Kuwaiti lawmakers for the lifting of Abdel-Samad’s and Lari’s parliamentary immunity, thus allowing the two to be prosecuted.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Danish-Egyptian friendship soccer match cancelled
Posted by: mrp || 02/22/2008 09:22 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder if it occurs to the Egyptians that the Danes are the ones who are happiest over the breakup.

Denmark - love freedom or leave it
Posted by: Crease Poodle1618 || 02/22/2008 19:29 Comments || Top||


Iraqi conference in Denmark condemns Prophet Muhammad cartoon
Iraqi religious and political leaders meeting in Denmark on Thursday condemned Danish newspapers for reprinting a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad. "It is an offense to all Muslims," according to a declaration issued by delegates at the Iraq conference in Copenhagen.

The drawing, which shows Muhammad wearing a bomb-shaped turban, was one of 12 cartoons that sparked major protests in Muslim countries in 2006.

Danish newspapers reprinted it last week in a gesture for free speech after three men were arrested in an alleged plot to kill the cartoonist who created the drawing. "We condemn this irresponsible behavior from some Danish media institutions under the cover of freedom of expression," the declaration said. It also said the re-emergence of the cartoon had created an "atmosphere of hatred."
Posted by: Fred || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad

#1  How very sad for them to be so ignorant, and BS that this is the f***ing mindset that we are facing. That they give more importance to a cartoon over life.

I'm still blown away knowing that they get their panties in a twist over these cartoons.

Don't read the funny papers then, geez stuck on stupid.

Posted by: Jan || 02/22/2008 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  I suppose they could always go back to Iraq for their meetings. To escape the "atmosphere of hatred", ya know...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/22/2008 8:20 Comments || Top||

#3  just what i was thinking Jan
Posted by: sinse || 02/22/2008 8:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Come on guys, we condemn the Jesus in a Urine Bottle too. However, we don't burn buildings or people over it. We just engage in ostracism and make sure our representatives become really uncomfortable, if not retired, with the use of public funds that made it happen.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/22/2008 12:06 Comments || Top||

#5  However, we don't burn buildings or people over it.

Exactly
Posted by: Jan || 02/22/2008 12:29 Comments || Top||

#6  Seems the Turks drew some funny cartoon of mo man about 500 years ago, why don't you start there.

The Great Danes should just keep printing the cartoons, every day, for a month. Then another month.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 02/22/2008 12:36 Comments || Top||

#7  A good response to this is sneering. That is, when they announce their outrage, shout right back at them that they are acting like ignorant peasants who should go home and live in dirt and filth, not in a civilized nation.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/22/2008 20:53 Comments || Top||


Spain on maximum terror alert ahead of election campaign
Spain went on maximum terror alert on Thursday ahead of the start of official campaigning for what is shaping up to be the most fiercely contested legislative election in decades. Campaigning for the March 9 general election was set to kick off at midnight.

The Interior Ministry said the alert would provide for a “total mobilisation of forces and state security corps” to monitor and protect party headquarters, election meetings, public transport, shopping centres and sporting events.

Spain, which has three security levels, had previously been on level two “medium” alert, over fears of a possible attack by the armed separatist group ETA, which called off a 15-month ceasefire in June 2006. “We believe ETA will try to kill before the elections,” Interior Minister Alfredo Perez Rubalcaba told public television TVE on Wednesday night. Spanish authorities have detained scores of suspected ETA members and say they have foiled a series of attacks by the outfit in recent months.

The outcome of the last general election held on March 14, 2004, was altered by the early morning bombing of packed commuter trains in Madrid three days earlier by militants, which killed 191 people and wounded 1,800 others. A surprise Socialist victory was partly attributed to anger on the part of leftist voters over the perception that the conservative government in power had tried to cover up evidence that Islamic militants were behind the bombings.
Posted by: Fred || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Fifth Column
Marine Colonel dresses down Associated Press over misleading MRAP story
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 02/22/2008 12:45 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  AP retraction in 5,4,3...
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 02/22/2008 14:10 Comments || Top||

#2  [SNARK]
How dare that lackey question the DECIDERS
[/SNARK]
Posted by: Almost Anonymous5839 || 02/22/2008 15:56 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Obama: Troops in Afghanistan Forced to Use Taliban Weapons
The Messiah said this during Thursday night's debate:
"You know, I've heard from an Army captain who was the head of a rifle platoon — supposed to have 39 men in a rifle platoon. Ended up being sent to Afghanistan with 24 because 15 of those soldiers had been sent to Iraq."

"And as a consequence, they didn't have enough ammunition, they didn't have enough Humvees. They were actually capturing Taliban weapons, because it was easier to get Taliban weapons than it was for them to get properly equipped by our current commander in chief."

This seems implausible on so many levels, but not surprising coming from this doofus.
Posted by: Glith Gleart3851 || 02/22/2008 01:02 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Talking with my brother, he said that Obama is non-other than the WALRUS! After all his speeches seem along this line


I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly.
I'm crying.

Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come.
Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday.
MAN, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen, I am the walrus,
goo goo g'joob
Posted by: bruce || 02/22/2008 7:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Blogistan is starting to chew this one up, and asking the Milbloggers to confirm/deny. Skepticism levels are about at UFO levels.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/255463.php

http://charliefoxtrotblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-meet-milblogs.html

Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/22/2008 8:13 Comments || Top||

#3  "You know, I've heard from an Army captain who was the head of a rifle platoon...

Wouldn't that, as Donald Sensing pointed out elsewhere, the job for a lieutenant?
Posted by: eLarson || 02/22/2008 8:21 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm also going to hold my breath until Obama goes to the Senate and demands more money for the effort in Afghanistan.

Ready? Go!
Posted by: eLarson || 02/22/2008 8:22 Comments || Top||

#5  you would think more than one person could support this claim if it where true
Posted by: sinse || 02/22/2008 8:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Any names, any details, or does he just expect us to be unquestionly blinded by the light?
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/22/2008 8:28 Comments || Top||

#7  So that Captain got sacked and is doing a 2nd Lt's job, manning up a Rifle Plt?

And on top of htat, they split a company and sent its soldiers to 2 different AO's, that in this day and age of unit cohesion.

Busted. Lying. I hope it was "Seared" into you mind like Kerry's fake Cambodia mission. Empty suit A-hole.

And the press is giving him a free ride of course.

Whats next? Hey Barak heard that Ferris Bueller is sick?

Barak Obama: Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
Posted by: OldSpook || 02/22/2008 9:01 Comments || Top||

#8  And here I thought recycling was a good thing. Libs - go figure.
Posted by: doc || 02/22/2008 9:07 Comments || Top||

#9  I can buy soldiers using captured weapons -- happens all the time -- but the idea that it was because of a shortage of ammo is laughable.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 02/22/2008 9:13 Comments || Top||

#10  its up to the consie press - weekly standard, NR, WSJ, Fox, to pursue this.

Want to know why they wont? Read George Will this AM. Georgie-boy addresses the Clinton attacks on Obamas in experience, by reminding us that James Buchanan was experienced and a failure, followed by inexperienced Lincoln. Its incredible enough when the Obamaniks call him Lincoln, but Will is too?

fact is your big guys hateses Hillary more than anything, and wont go neg on the Messiah till shes been completely staked through the heart. And even then, theyre all pretty ambivalent, at best, about McCain. Better 4 (or 8) years of Obama, than letting a "RINO" get control of the GOP, right? Keeping the vehicle for the right being more important than the security of the nation.

Feh!!
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 9:42 Comments || Top||

#11  This story and lie has so many holes you could run a Chinese armored regiment through it.

Obama is a disgrace and not even close to being fit and mentally able to lead our nation in a time of war.

Oh, and just for the record, they aren't called "rifle platoons" anymore. You have light infantry (which is ironic since they carry everything everywhere), mechanized infantry and special operations platoons. Light infantry are the specialized units, i.e. airborne, air assault, 10th mountain, etc. Mechanized is, well, mechanized. For the dhimocrat dipshits, that means they ride into battle in the back of armored carriers. Special operations are usually rangers, although Special Forces can work in units as large as a platoon.

Oh, and at least as far as the 101st was set up back in '91 (Might have changed since then), a platoon is around 38 soldiers. Three 9 man squads with a weapons squad. Then you have your Platoon daddy (E-7) and the lieutenant. I say around since replacement rates change and you can have anywhere from 41 to 24 guys in the platoon at any time. And they never split up a platoon for deployment either. The guys on medical sick call, like surgery and broken bones stay behind and man the phones at the base. The rest ship out with the rest of the COMPANY. Battalions might be split for transport, but not sent piecemeal to other Operational Theaters. The exception is the special operation groups, but even they usually are shipped to one theater only. Keeps confusion to a minimum.

In short, what a doofus.
Posted by: DarthVader || 02/22/2008 9:46 Comments || Top||

#12  Maybe the Army Captain was a Winter Soldier?

I've never served, but my B.S. detector went wild with the notion of splitting up a platoon and just melted before my very eyes with the notion of insufficient ammo.

Calling him a doofus is an isult to real doofuses everywhere! More like, not even a moron; he's a less-on.
Posted by: Bobby || 02/22/2008 10:21 Comments || Top||

#13  btw, the defense of Obama Im hearing now, is that maybe it was a USMC captain.

Would it make more sense for the USMC? Im skeptical, but dont know enough to say.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 10:27 Comments || Top||

#14  btw, the defense of Obama Im hearing now, is that maybe it was a USMC captain.

Would it make more sense for the USMC? Im skeptical, but dont know enough to say.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 10:27 Comments || Top||

#15  According to a commenter at Flopping Aces, both Hilly and B.O. voted against funding the war, thus encouraging troops to scrounge ammo
Posted by: Bobby || 02/22/2008 10:27 Comments || Top||

#16  fact is your big guys hateses Hillary more than anything, and wont go neg on the Messiah till shes been completely staked through the heart. And even then, theyre all pretty ambivalent, at best, about McCain. Better 4 (or 8) years of Obama, than letting a "RINO" get control of the GOP, right? Keeping the vehicle for the right being more important than the security of the nation.

OTOH, you want a candidate who will continue to support all your favorite economic policies, up to and including exporting the american oilfield, and a couple hundred billion dollars a year in revenue, to Saudi Arabia, but who has the guts to send our ten lousy little divisions overseas to try to save you from the consequences of that.

Twenty years ago, we were at 40% of our oil use imported. Now we're at 60%. I don't know what 70% looks like, but maybe we should bring the boys home before then.

Is there any real strategic difference between bringing the boys home and sending them out but in a position where all they can do is bleed in place?

I've had more or less seven straight years of "How many of those poor American boys are you going to murder" coming from the TV and the mandarin class using the necessary evils of the lesser-of-the-two-evils against us.

We made a big mistake out here in flyover country when we decided that the Big Population Center's problems were our problems.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 02/22/2008 10:30 Comments || Top||

#17  I've never served, but my B.S. detector went wild when I heard muBarack's lips had been moving.

Just a wee bit o' the plagiarism.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/22/2008 10:31 Comments || Top||

#18  As Mark Twain said: "It is often better to keep one's mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."
#14. Then, maybe it was a navy captain, LH.
Posted by: GK || 02/22/2008 10:31 Comments || Top||

#19  Starfleet.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/22/2008 10:33 Comments || Top||

#20  It may be that the Afghan portion of the rifle platoon was short of Humvees and ammo for a few days until the logistics caught up with the deployment modification.

And for those few days, they may have used some of the Taliban weapons in training exercises before serious combat operations.

Posted by: mhw || 02/22/2008 11:30 Comments || Top||

#21  Captain D-Ill

Hey, we are still trying to find the 9,986 other people who the brave ship ludicrus said died in the Greensburg tornado.

-Or maybe they were using their weapons on purpose during raid to confuse the enemy? Nevermind it is bho who so it just bs-
Posted by: swksvolFF || 02/22/2008 11:35 Comments || Top||

#22  Keeping the vehicle for the right being more important than the security of the nation.

Feh!! - LH


How deep is that memory hole there o'LH

From the Washington Post -

Sen. Clinton Hedges Lieberman Support

Associated Press
Wednesday, July 5, 2006; Page A02

ALBANY, N.Y., July 4 -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.), a longtime supporter of Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, said Tuesday that she will not back the Connecticut Democrat's bid for reelection if he loses their party's primary.

"I've known Joe Lieberman for more than 30 years. I have been pleased to support him in his campaign for reelection, and hope that he is our party's nominee," the former first lady said in a statement issued by aides.

"But I want to be clear that I will support the nominee chosen by Connecticut Democrats in their primary," Clinton added. "I believe in the Democratic Party, and I believe we must honor the decisions made by Democratic primary voters."


Right party over national security. You got it.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/22/2008 11:57 Comments || Top||

#23  procopius

I support Joe very much and despised Ned Lamont. But the difference in whom would be Senator from Connecticut has a far smaller impact on our national security than the Presidency. And Hillarys endorsement in the end had little impact on the Conn campaign.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 12:21 Comments || Top||

#24  I dont understand #16. What does he mean selling the US oilfield, and what policies does he suggest that would have kept the US more energy self-sufficient?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 12:23 Comments || Top||

#25  The bullshit and cowpuckie amply flowed last night. Truth took a holiday. Between Hildebeast's promises for everything for everyone, and BO's campaign of hope, hope, and more hope, and the many promised socialistic programs that the taxpayers can't afford, it was a sad night. I can't believe these potential voters applauded at this crap. Where the hell do they think all this money is going to come from--ITS THE TAXPAYERS? Hillary won the earmark contest. The "borrowed statements" (plagiarism) contest was a draw. I don't think either one of these buffoons could run a lemonade stand--in fact neither one of them has. All both have ever known are government jobs or some other BS socialistic sounding job. Elect either one of these socialist communists and we are in a world of hurt. Folks the donks will tell you anything, ANYTHING to get elected.
Posted by: JohnQC || 02/22/2008 12:30 Comments || Top||

#26  I can't believe these potential voters applauded at this crap.

They weren't average voters. Each audience member was a party bigwigs and operatives. The public was warned on the evening news not to even try to get tickets.
Posted by: Unomorong Peacock6524 || 02/22/2008 12:43 Comments || Top||

#27  George will is an effite snob. He is a personification of the "Country Club" a-holes who are conservative only when it suits them.


George will needs to stick to writing about baseball. He's out of his depth and damned near irrelevant in conservative politics, at least to anyone that's not a half-with Northeastern blue blooded snob.

Posted by: OldSpook || 02/22/2008 12:48 Comments || Top||

#28  OldSpook

Once I was at a minor league game where George Will was throwing out the first ball. He took a big windup and then pitched a fast one in the dirt about 30+ feet in front of the catcher where it just had enough momentum to roll to near home plate. I could tell he felt embarrassed (probably he practised for an hour the previous night) but I found it amusing.
Posted by: mhw || 02/22/2008 12:59 Comments || Top||

#29  I dont understand #16. What does he mean selling the US oilfield, and what policies does he suggest that would have kept the US more energy self-sufficient?

I mean that US production would not have dropped 30% the way it did if most of both the eastern and western seaboards, land areas in coastal California, and large parts of Alaska were off limits to offshore oil drilling.

I also believe that the moratorium on construction of nuclear energy plants over the last thirty years has greatly hampered the emergence of both coal synfuel and oil shale extraction industries. (Since we wind up needing the coal for power instead and oil shale extraction takes energy).
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 02/22/2008 13:37 Comments || Top||

#30  I like how Obamma-Mamma pronounces Tolly-E-bond... maund! a Hoot!

It's true! George Bush screwed us it's true! we were even forced to scrounge Tolly-E-baund night-dresses and turbans from the Tael-E-bond... maund.

And fer yer edifications it's not easy to coordinate the camo paint patterns between the the top and bottomn..
Posted by: Capt Obama Poltroon || 02/22/2008 13:52 Comments || Top||

#31  29
First, I think you are incorrect about off shore oil policy, esp wrt to the East Coast.

second your next paragraph makes no sense. Coal for power is still fairly cheap, and high sulfur coal (which could be used for synfuels) dropped in value dramatically after the clean air act forced substitution of low sulfur western coal. The problems with Coal synfuels are largely technical.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 14:05 Comments || Top||

#32  God save the United States of America, for surely we need it.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 14:05 Comments || Top||

#33  First, I think you are incorrect about off shore oil policy, esp wrt to the East Coast.

Precisely. You want a candidate who's going to tell you you're right about all of your sacred cows and then go send some guys to the Middle East to get mangled by IED's in the process of saving you from the various ripple effects of your decision.

Obama is just ignoring one more level of ripple effects and saying we don't have to send guys to Iraq. If he'd wise up and figure out that the Afghans didn't carry out the 9/11 attacks and we don't need troops there...

(Yes, Afghanistan is a proxy war against the countries that did sponsor them. But it's a proxy war, and the Dem party has been ignoring that Iraq was also a proxy war in the same manner, during the last five years of its attacks on the subject. It's going to add up).
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 02/22/2008 14:13 Comments || Top||

#34  wtf? Al Qaeeda did 9/11, and they were based in Afghan and protected by the Taliban, with whom they were practically co-running the country. Did you manage to miss that?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 14:16 Comments || Top||

#35  Oh, please. The taliban were installed by Pakistan, during that time period Afghanistan was a client state of Pakistan, and NONE of the 9/11 plotters were Afghanis.

It was just a convenient satellite state of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia for them to rent a post office box in.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 02/22/2008 14:53 Comments || Top||

#36  You had Saudis (Saudi Arabia not invaded in the wake of 9/11), Lebanese (ditto), Egyptians (ditto), Yemenis...

They might have had knife-fighting lessons in Afghanistan, but they also had flight lessons in Florida.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 02/22/2008 14:56 Comments || Top||

#37  If you're wondering why I'm saying this about Afghanistan now... well, it's all technically true, and it's also technically leading to a false conclusion: that there's no reason for US troops to be in Afghanistan.

For the past five years when democrats like Barack Obama made that exact same technically-true-but-in-a-larger-sense wrong argument about Iraq, Hillary just gave her glassy-eyed smile and nodded and said the vast majority of hawks were incompetent liars but alone of all the people who voted for the war in Iraq she was truthful and competent.

She (and McCain) have been running on a platform of "all the hawks are idiots (or idiots and liars) _except for me_, so vote for me."

This isn't a very tenable political position and onne that gives massive advantages to the non-hawks.

She could have decided to start pushing back against these people three or four years ago and she'd be ahead in the campaign but it would have meant giving up the daily five-minute hate against Bush.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 02/22/2008 15:10 Comments || Top||

#38  Oh, please. The taliban were installed by Pakistan, during that time period Afghanistan was a client state of Pakistan, and NONE of the 9/11 plotters were Afghanis.

which is relevant, how?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 16:08 Comments || Top||

#39  Hillary just gave her glassy-eyed smile and nodded and said the vast majority of hawks were incompetent liars but alone of all the people who voted for the war in Iraq she was truthful and competent.

She (and McCain) have been running on a platform of "all the hawks are idiots (or idiots and liars) _except for me_, so vote for me."


If I say I want a pizza, and pal Barack, says, NO, Pizza is bad for you it will give you a heart attack, and I say - pizza is good - and then my friend Don says I will make the pizza, and he adds peanut butter, and sets the oven to 700 degrees, and the peanut cheese horror goes up in flames, and I say "pizza is good, but YOU, Don, are an idiot" I may well be wrong (cause like no recipe ever goes perfectly, and no recipe survives the first encounter with the oven, yaddah yaddah) but the fact that my friend barak dislike pizza cause of the cholesterol, but inconsistently loves steak, had NO bearing on my criticism of Dons cooking. IS THAT CLEAR???
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 16:12 Comments || Top||

#40  and man, David has finally come into fix up the pizza, remove the peanut butter, scrape away the burnt parts, and Barack is about to toss the pizza in the garbage.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 16:14 Comments || Top||

#41  All I wanted was a sub (SSGN) with the works to go.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/22/2008 16:39 Comments || Top||

#42  Get back on your meds before you wander off to some college campus armed to the teeth.
Posted by: wxjames || 02/22/2008 16:46 Comments || Top||

#43  "which is relevant, how?"

Well, we seem to have all these troops in Afghanistan and not Yemen or Lebanon or Saudi Arabia.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 02/22/2008 17:23 Comments || Top||

#44  Ace of Spades does some research.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 02/22/2008 19:09 Comments || Top||

#45  Abdominal Snowman, it seems to me back in WWII we invaded Africa before Germnay, and we didn't go straight to the Japanese home islands either. On the other hand, Al Qaeda, which did plan and execute the 9/11 attacks, was based in Afghanistan, and the Taliban were protecting them. Saddam Hussein was the biggest supporter of terrorism when we invaded: not so much funding like the Saudis, but training in hijacking, explosives, and chemical and biological attacks. Remember the split facilities at Salman Pak? One side for Iraqi special forces, the other for Arab/Muslim terrorists of all stripes? The Saudi money was only good once the volunteers had the appropriate skills. The Lebanese generally work locally; the Egyptians take leadership roles in Islamist/Muslim Brotherhood organizations; the Yemenis...what have they done besides blow up the USS Cole and stage a few kidnappings?
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/22/2008 19:36 Comments || Top||

#46  I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly.
I'm crying.

Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come.
Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday.
MAN, you been a naughty boy, you let your face grow long.
I am the eggman, they are the eggmen, I am the walrus,
goo goo g'joob

Is that "Free Verse" or have you taken LSD?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 02/22/2008 20:00 Comments || Top||

#47  Yes, TW, I know. I was trying to illustrate the difference between the real truth and a carefully edited version of the truth.

The "carefully edited version of the truth" doesn't support going into Afghanistan any more than it does going into Iraq.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 02/22/2008 21:03 Comments || Top||

#48  The incident happened five years ago, at the time of the Iraqi attack. The 4th ID unable to enter from the north (thanks to State's embarrassing the Turks). The transfer of troops and to Iraqi ops was logical. So was the logistics-emphasis.

At the very least, the fact that it happened in 2003 should have been mentioned.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/22/2008 21:29 Comments || Top||

#49  Yes, TW, I know.

Thank you, Abdominal Snowman. I was shocked. I'm not good at detecting subtlety, I'm afraid, unless it's plainly marked. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/22/2008 21:49 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Experts fear debris isn't the only fallout from satellite shoot-down
Can we have some smelling salts please? McClatchy Media just fainted dead away.
A U.S. missile strike that appeared Thursday to have shattered a crippled spy satellite and vaporized its hazardous hydrazine fuel sent up cheers among Pentagon planners, who for three weeks had worked feverishly to turn an anti-missile system into one that could track and kill an object orbiting the Earth.

BUT even as debris from the shattered satellite began raining down over the Pacific Ocean, there were worries that the U.S. achievement might spur other nations to advance their own anti-satellite programs and turn outer space into a potential battlefield. "I don't see how other nations don't see this as an anti-satellite test," said Theresa Hitchens, the director of the Washington D.C.-based Center for Defense Information, a centrist national security policy institute. "They'll see it as the weaponization of space."

Hitchens said she believed that both China and Russia would use the U.S. destruction of the satellite as reason to step up development of their own anti-satellite weapons. China , she said, is "likely to use this as an excuse to do what they wanted to do already." Russia , she added, "will come down hard on this."

Marine Gen. James Cartwright said there's little the military can learn from the shoot-down that could be applied to missile defense. "It doesn't cross over," he said.

Loren Thompson , a defense analyst at the Washington D.C. area-based Lexington Institute , agreed, noting that most satellites' orbits are too high to be hit by ship-based missiles.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Washington D.C.-based Center for Defense Information, a centrist national security policy institute.

Google it... yeah, it's 'centrist'...
Posted by: Pappy || 02/22/2008 0:54 Comments || Top||

#2  I thought the Soviet Union would have learned their lesson in the 1980's not to try to outspend the US on military items. Oh, that's right. There is no Soviet Union any more. Well, apparently Russia didn't learn either.
Posted by: Rambler in California || 02/22/2008 1:21 Comments || Top||

#3  "I don't see how other nations don't see this as an anti-satellite test,"

Well, China already did one.
Posted by: newc || 02/22/2008 1:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Perhaps McClatchy and the MSM had their hearts set on hydrazine headlines.
Posted by: Bobby || 02/22/2008 5:47 Comments || Top||

#5  The article could have a point, after all, China did spur the US to advance its own anti-satellite program, and has inserted multiple kinetic weapons in orbit.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/22/2008 6:05 Comments || Top||

#6  ...there were worries that the U.S. achievement might spur other nations to advance their own anti-satellite programs...

Um... unless you have been under a rock for the past decade or are just willfully ignorant, China already has one and Russia is trying to build one.

"They'll see it as the weaponization of space."

If they are smart. "Hold the high ground" is a true a military statement now as it was during them time of ancient Greece. I fully expect our enemies to take advantage of it and I hope that our nation isn't stupid enough to let it happen.
Posted by: DarthVader || 02/22/2008 7:16 Comments || Top||

#7  I don't think they were just going to sit around with their thumbs up their asses. They are most certainly working on the tech to do this themselves.
To let them pull ahead of us would be very, very bad.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 02/22/2008 7:37 Comments || Top||

#8 
Um... unless you have been under a rock for the past decade or are just willfully ignorant, China already has one and Russia is trying to build one.


Much as the laws of war only apply to Americans and Israelis, only America can start an arms race.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 02/22/2008 8:01 Comments || Top||

#9  big jim don't you mean China is working on a way to STEAL the technology too do this more effectively
Posted by: sinse || 02/22/2008 8:28 Comments || Top||

#10  Ummmmmm...so what? I hope we do it again tomorrow.
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/22/2008 8:30 Comments || Top||

#11  Some wit was reporting yesterday that a large, cylindrical piece of debris believed to be from the satellite had actually crashed in an unincorporated area within West Windsor Township, New Jersey.

Soon after, local residents had seen large numbers of short, googly-eyed, furry blue creatures wandering around aimlessly in Grover's Mill...
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/22/2008 9:12 Comments || Top||

#12  the director of the Washington D.C.-based Center for Defense Information, a centrist national security policy institute.

(Snort)

I remember this organization produced a show on PBS(naturally) in the 80's whose main thrust was that spending money on anything more advanced than a slingshot was a waste and unnecessary provocation to the Soviets.
Posted by: charger || 02/22/2008 10:20 Comments || Top||

#13  Does it matter what rational the Chicoms and Russians use? We know they'd like to build the stuff anyway and they'll invent rationals if they need to.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 02/22/2008 11:22 Comments || Top||

#14  The only fallout they are concerned about is how wrong they look after so many years of no-can-do and whether people will apply that thought process into their goerbal swarming montra.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 02/22/2008 11:43 Comments || Top||

#15  How does a ground-launched weapon become "weaponization of space"?

Hell, even my spell-checker objects to that construction.
Posted by: mojo || 02/22/2008 14:12 Comments || Top||

#16  for three weeks had worked feverishly to turn an anti-missile system into one that could track and kill an object orbiting the Earth.

Bullshit alarm clanging away madly.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 02/22/2008 15:06 Comments || Top||

#17  Folks, ignore all this crap, they've GOT to show SOMETHING wrong to sell hystria driven "News".
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 02/22/2008 15:10 Comments || Top||

#18  We need to keep working on this technology - it's going to be needed one of these days to zap an incomng asteroid that could wipe out life as we know it.
Posted by: Glenmore || 02/22/2008 15:19 Comments || Top||

#19  Again, TU24/WD5. HOLMES, etc > TU24 was supposed to pass Earth [WD5 > MARS] as ORGANZ SINGLE INTACT LONER OBJECTS. There were NOT suppos to be accompanying fireballs, star streaks, or assorted space detonations = boom-booms BEFORE ANDOR DURING PASSAGE. NASA-JPL, etc > haven't even begun to publicly address or even acknowledge the accompanying phenomenas observed by many Netters including MOI. SPACE.com/VARI ASTRONOM BLOGS > ALL THEY WANT TO SAY OR PROCLAIM THAT THEY BELIEVE THE SINGULAR/SOLE OBJECTS KNOWN AS TU24 + WD5 PASSED EARTH AND MARS, AND NOT ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT. THATS POLITIX, NOT NATIONAL-GLOBAL SECURITY.

E.g. LAST NITE > despite inclement local weather, SOMETHING BIG AND WID A LONG, MASSIVELY WIDE TAIL BLITZED OVER GUAM IN NORTHERLY DIRECTION AND SEEMINGLY VERY CLOSE TO EARTH. It was fiery enuff, big enuff, and close enuff to be seen thru the bad weather + heavy low overcast o'er AGANA, GUAM. *OBJECT'S SIZE + SPEED > I doubt all the AEGIS + strategic ICBM MISSLES in the US-World could've stopped it EVEN IFF THESE COLLECTIVELY + SUCCESSFULLY IMPACTED WID PINPOINT ACCURACY. MY POINT > THIS GUAM AM + MIDMORN = SILENCE ON THE MSM + from our GOVT.

The shootdown of USA 193 was a good start but USA 193 is NOT a space rock - IFF THE WORLD =HUMANITY TRULY DESIRES OWG-NWO, SAID DESIRED OWG-NWO MUST BE ABLE TO PROTECT FROM EXTRA-GLOBAL THREATS AND CHALLENGES, NOT KEEP S *** TO ITSELF BECUZ THEY THINK NO ONE IS GONNA FIND OUT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/22/2008 19:46 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Nuggets from the Urdu press
Protestants are agents of Jews

In daily Jang, the great religious scholar Dr Israr Ahmad wrote that the Palestine issue is not being solved because of the American influence. The blind support for Israel by America has a history. The Protestants sect of Christianity was formed by Jews, which is why Protestants are Jews’ agents. These agents are playing the central role in the Jewish conspiracy. At the moment, America is the leader of the Protestant sect.

Greater Israel

In daily Jang, the great religious scholar Dr Israr Ahmad wrote that Jews want to create a “Greater Israel” that includes Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Sinai Peninsula, Egypt and the Nile Delta, southern Turkey and northern Hijaz, including the holy city of Medina. They have the full support of Protestant Christian countries like America and Britian. The unipolar world is already controlled by Jews. They control the World Bank, IMF, World Trade Organisation and the stock markets of the world.

Stage actresses in trouble

As reported in Daily Pakistan, a notorious criminal, Nadi Phangi, has threatened stage actresses for ransom. He also threatened to blow up the theatres with bombs if the actresses didn’t come up with money. A few months ago, the criminal fired at famous actress and dancer Saima Khan and injured her at the instigation of a rival stage dancer. Stage actresses and actors demand protection from police for the artists.

Musharraf to stage a few bombs blasts: Imran Khan

As reported in daily Nawa-e-Waqt, the head of Tehreek-e-Insaf, Imran Khan expressed his suspicion that Musharraf will postpone elections by arranging a few bomb explosions. He said that the PMLQ is dead and wants to come into power with the help of Musharraf. He said that rigging is planned by the government to push the country to the verge of destruction.

Motorcycle horn used as a detonator

As reported in daily Jang, wife of suicide bomber Abid Hunzalla was not surprised to hear that her husband had died in a suicide attack. She received his last letter a month ago and police alerted the department. He used two big milk containers from milk vendors to store explosives and used a horn as an igniter. The group was trained by a major (r) Ahsan ul Haq. This is not the first time that a military person’s name has come up in terrorism.

Was there an ideology of Pakistan?

Columnist Nazir Naji wrote in daily Jang, that he has demanded many times for someone to show him the term “ideology of Pakistan” in the writings of Quaid-e-Azam and Allama Iqbal. They always referred to the Two Nation Theory in their writings or speeches. They were intellectuals and knew the difference between “theory” and “ideology.” The majority of religious leaders who rose as the champions of ideology of Pakistan during Yahya Khan’s era were against Quaid-e-Azam and the creation of Pakistan. I am always shown extracts of Quaid-e-Azam’s speeches where he was replying to the allegations of mullahs and religious leaders.

Character assassination of Bilawal Bhutto

As reported in daily Khabrain, certain forces have started a character assassination of Bilawal Bhutto on his nomination as heir to Benazir Bhutto’s Pakistan Peoples Party. A photograph was issued to defame him. Allegations of relations with girls and alcohol are being levelled at him by publishing photographs. The British Daily Mail issued a photograph of a stage play of his personal life.

Jinn strangles a sorcerer of 36 years

As reported in daily Khabrain, in Renala Khurd, two daughters of Rehmat Ali, engaged with the sons of a relative, were under a jinn’s spell. He contacted Shafiq alias Tedi who got rid of the jinn by a sacred spell over a mobile phone. After a few days, another daughter came under the spell of a jinn and again the baba was called. During the holy chanting, the baba suddenly became silent. He was taken to a hospital where he was declared dead.

Amnesty International condemns rijm in Iran

As reported in daily Nawa-e-Waqt, human rights organisation Amnesty International demanded Iran to stop rijm (stoning to death) punishment. Amnesty showed concern about punishments like rijm in Iran.

Strange marriage in Medina

According to daily Nawa-e-Waqt, a resident of Mecca went with his father to see his future bride in Medina. The young man didn’t like the girl and refused to marry. His father offered himself and the girl’s family accepted the proposal. The young man is now confused how he would accept the girl as a mother as the marriage is going to take place next month.

Failed strategists of Pakistan

Columnist Nazir Naji wrote in daily Jang, that our diplomats and intellectuals believe that Americans have no knowledge of this region. Pakistan has a short history of strategic failure and failed foreign policies, but its intellectuals’ insistence that Americans have no idea of this region is surprising. Especially the assertion of those intellectuals who were involved in formation and implementation of these failed policies.

Sharia position of divorce via SMS

As reported in Daily Pakistan, Mufti Karam of Jamia Azhar are discussing the position of divorce via SMS. A woman received a divorce through an SMS because she didn’t attend her furious husband’s telephone call. The two Gulf States and Qatar recognised the divorce through the phone but Muslim scholars in Singapore rejected this type of divorce. Ulema in Malaysia accepted divorce via telephone and rejected Mahathir Mohammad’s suggestion to fine those who divorce via telephone.

The Rana and Rashid rule Pakistan’s Cricket

As reported in Daily Pakistan, two families are ruling Pakistan’s cricket. Haroon Rashid is in charge of the youth development, his brother Umar Rashid is the coach of the women’s cricket team, Mehmood Rashid is a match referee and Mohtashim Rashid is a fielding coach. Another family is of Shafqat Rana, who is the member of the selection committee, his brother Azmat Rana, who is the regional academy coach and Sultan Rana, the developing officer.

The golden era of Muslim history

Columnist Khalid Ansari, wrote that majlis shora and mushawarat (consultation) was first shown to the world when the West was sleeping and was uncivilised. Baghdad was the capital of the Muslim world in 762 AD and was the centre of science, philosophy and other branches of knowledge. The Western historians call the 10th and 11th centuries as the golden period of Islam. How can I tell you that those who gave the worldly knowledge to the world have now become terrorists and uncivilised.

Benazir realised militant’s threat

Sherry Rehman wrote in daily Khabrain, that Benazir Bhutto was the architect of foreign policy of peaceful relations with the neighbours. She had a foresight and could see into the future, which is why she was anxious to write her will before her death. She was the only leader who considered the challenge of war against extremists and militants in Pakistan. She always said that it’s not some other country’s war but our own war for the survival of Pakistan. She never compromised on women issues.

Shoaib Malik’s marriage scandal

According to daily Khabrain magazine, captain of Pakistan cricket team, Shoaib Malik, said that no scandal surfaced during his Indian tour a few months back. He said that in 2001, he befriended a girl named Ayesha on the Internet. She sent her pictures in which she looked beautiful and he promised to marry her. His brother-in-law, Imran Zafar said that he acquired photographs of Ayesha through his friend in Saudi Arabia and these were different from her earlier photographs. When the situation got cleared, Shoaib Malik broke up with her.

Sportsman’s spirit of politicians

Ali Asghar Abbas wrote in Daily Pakistan magazine, that all politicians, with different points of view, have termed the assassination of Benazir Bhutto as a national tragedy. All the sportsmen who are running their horses in the field of politics have shown a sportsman’s spirit which is necessary for the beauty of this game. The politicians have called her a martyr of democracy. They have shut the mouths of some elements that are always ready to malign the politicians.

Shoaib married Ayesha on telephone

According to daily Khabrain magazine, M A Siddique, father-in-law of Shoaib Akhtar, said that the marriage ceremony was held in Banjara Hill hotel in Hyderabad and he booked a room for their honeymoon in Taj Khrishna. He said Shoaib Akhtar performed the nikah ceremony over a telephone from Sailkot. He said that he has the marriage certificate of Ayesha and Shoaib with their signatures. He said that Bob Woolmer congratulated him and the whole team was present in the marriage ceremony.

Posted by: john frum || 02/22/2008 15:07 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  He used two big milk containers from milk vendors to store explosives and used a horn as an igniter.

Boggle.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/22/2008 15:31 Comments || Top||

#2  If the jinns and the jews had a fight, who would win?
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/22/2008 15:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Allegations of relations with girls and alcohol are being levelled at him by publishing photographs. The British Daily Mail issued a photograph of a stage play of his personal life.

Wotcher, whats playing in the West End these days?

A new play about a Pakistani pol, involving girls and alcohol.

Girls and alcohol, well then off we go lad.

Jinn strangles a sorcerer of 36 years

As reported in daily Khabrain, in Renala Khurd, two daughters of Rehmat Ali, engaged with the sons of a relative, were under a jinn’s spell. He contacted Shafiq alias Tedi who got rid of the jinn by a sacred spell over a mobile phone.


Verizon Customer Service, how may I help you?
My phone keeps showing no battery life, even after I recharge it.
VCS:Have you tried a sacred spell to remove the Jinn?
How do i get that done?
You have to ask for Verizon Customer Service Karachi - Bangalore only deals with technical problems.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 16:05 Comments || Top||

#4  Jinn? It boggles the mind.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 02/22/2008 20:16 Comments || Top||


Kashmiri Hardliner Upbeat on Pakistan Poll Results
Poll results in Pakistan buoyed up the hardline Kashmiri separatist leader, Syed Ali Shah Geelani, who is presently undergoing treatment in the Indian capital, New Delhi. Geelani, a critical opponent of Pakistan president Parvez Musharraf's Kashmir policy, termed the poll verdict in that country as a "Vote against Musharraf".

"Pakistani people have been very supportive to the freedom struggle of people of Kashmir and they have voted reiterating their support to Kashmiris by voting against Parvez Musharraf and his Kashmir policies," he said.

The ailing Kashmiri hardline leader further said that Musharraf had shown a one-sided flexibility to India and this had weakened the 'cause of people of Kashmir'. "The new democratically elected government in Pakistan will do away with Musharraf's Kashmir policy and instead frame their own policy supporting people of Kashmir," he said.

Geelani also expressed the hope that the new government in Pakistan will not offer any unilateral concessions to India and instead press it to resolve Kashmir dispute as per wishes and aspirations of the people of Kashmir.
Posted by: Fred || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The name "Geelani" rang a bell for me.

Oh, yes. Yes of course. Gates of Vienna has a little background and first-person reporting on the Geelani (Gilani) influence in America. Follow all the links.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/22/2008 0:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Notice that Geelani (a) is getting free medical care (the best that India can offer) at the Indian taxpayer's expense
(b) has not commented on the fact that people on the Pakistani side of Kashmir and Gilgit (part of J+K the Pakistani insist is the "northern areas" were not allowed to vote. Pakistan has never allowed an election to be held in its part of Kashmir

Posted by: john frum || 02/22/2008 15:32 Comments || Top||


Pakistan's PPP and PML-N to form coalition govt
(Xinhua) — Pakistan's political parties Pakistan People's Party (PPP) and Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) will form coalition governments in central and provincial levels, leaders of the two parties said here Thursday night.

PPP co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari and PML-N leader Nawaz Sharif made the statement at a joint press conference after almost an hour of closed-door meeting here Thursday night. "I have requested Nawaz Sharif to be a part of that government," Zardari told the media. "We are looking for a broader national consensus government," Zardari said. "We intend to be together in our struggle for democracy," Zardari said, adding that "We intend to remain together in the parliament."

Regarding the stance towards President Perez Musharraf, Sharif said that "the sooner the president respects the will of the people the better."

Analysts say the coalition of PPP and PML-N will bring great challenge to Musharraf, who in 1999 seized power in a coup. "We have agreed to restore the 1973 Constitution in its original form," Sharif said.

Zardari also said the PPP's first resolution in the National Assembly will be a request for the United Nations probe into the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.

Bhutto was killed in gunshots and suicide bombing attacks at the gate of the Liaqat Bagh park in Rawalpindi where she addressed an election rally on Dec. 27 last year.

Sharif and Zardari also agreed to reinstate the judges Musharraf sacked last year. "In principle, there is no disagreement on restoration of deposed judges," Sharif said.

Sharif said earlier Thursday that the deposed former chief justice of Pakistan Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry would be reinstated within days.

The lawyers took out to the street in Islamabad and tried to march to the residence of Chaudhry. They chanted slogans against President Perez Musharraf and demanded restoration of Chaudhry. Chaudhry was sacked on Nov. 3 last year when Musharraf declared a state of emergency in the country. He remained under house arrest ever since.
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Nawaz, Shahbaz elected parliamentary leaders
The Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz’s (PML-N) central executive committee (CEC) pledged on Thursday the party would not become part of a coalition government that might compromise on the sacked judges’ restoration issue.

The PML-N wants the restoration of the judiciary President Pervez Musharraf sacked after he promulgated emergency rule on November 3, 2007.

The CEC nominated PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif and his brother Shahbaz Sharif as parliamentary leaders in the national and Punjab assemblies, respectively. The meeting participants decided that the Sharif brothers would contest by-elections to make their way to the assemblies. PML-N leader Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan told reporters after the meeting that the party vowed to restore the 1973 Constitution and form an “independent” election commission.
Posted by: Fred || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Tribesmen following political developments with anxiety
The people of the tribal areas and the Taliban are anxiously watching political developments in Islamabad and Peshawar that are likely to play a major role in determining their future as well as that of the “so-called war on terror,” residents of various tribal regions told Daily Times on Thursday.

We are observing developments in Islamabad and Peshawar, where new arrangements are taking place in the wake of Monday’s elections, said residents from Wana, Miranshah and Khar, as the newly elected members of the National Assembly from the tribal areas headed to Islamabad for talks with the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP).

Perhaps even more anxiously than the residents, tribal militants are also trying to keep track of political developments, as they have no idea what the changes in the new political setup will bring.

With the secular Awami National Party (ANP) and the liberal pro-US PPP now looking all set to form governments in NWFP and Islamabad, respectively, a tribal source quoted Taliban leader Maulvi Nazir as saying: “We are not sure what will change with the advent of a new government in Islamabad.”

According to a political analyst in Ghalanai, Mohmand Agency, “much will depend on how much the new government will affect President Pervez Musharraf’s say as far as the war on terror is concerned.” “I don’t see any improvements in the tribal areas situation if President Musharraf stays the course even with a new prime minister,” he added.
Posted by: Fred || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Here's hoping for open season on waziribillies...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 02/22/2008 13:44 Comments || Top||


Bush calls Musharraf after elections
US President George W. Bush telephoned Pakistan's Pervez Musharraf after his election defeat on Tuesday, the White House said Thursday, while refusing to describe what they discussed.

Asked whether Musharraf should resign, spokeswoman Dana Perino told reporters "it's up to the Pakistani people to decide how to proceed" but added that he was someone "who could help Pakistan continue on the way to democracy." Perino said that Musharraf had been a strong U.S. ally, and added: "We hope that whatever the makeup is of the next government of Pakistan that they will continue that partnership."

Former Pakistani prime minister Nawaz Sharif told hundreds of protesters outside the deposed chief justice's house that Musharraf's rule was "illegal and unconstitutional". Sharif, one of the biggest winners in elections on Monday, addressed a crowd of lawyers who gathered outside Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry's home in Islamabad to call for his reinstatement.

His comments came after anti-Musharraf lawyers clashed with police and the widower of Pakistan's slain ex-premier Benazir Bhutto, Asif Ali Zardari, met political leaders to discuss forming a coalition. Zardari was set to hold talks with Sharif on an alliance that could lead to Musharraf's impeachment following defeat of the president's allies in parliamentary elections on Monday.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "It's been real, Perv. Call me when ya get wherever it is yer goin, so's Laura and I can send yer Christmas card to the right address..."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 02/22/2008 13:48 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Tots sliced and diced on Tater's orders
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  After about 15 minutes, an official scribbled a note requesting that her husband come to the office for mediation. Mmmmmmmm-K?

Yes Mr. Mackey.......
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 02/22/2008 12:51 Comments || Top||


Australia confirms Iraq troop pullout
Australia’s new government confirmed on Thursday that it would withdraw its combat troops from Iraq by mid-year but pledged strong ties with the United States ahead of landmark talks this week.
Posted by: Fred || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  I think they've been a sport about Iraq.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 02/22/2008 18:57 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Thousands rally for Israel town in firing line of Gaza rockets
JERUSALEM (AFP) - About 10,000 Israelis gathered in Sderot on Friday to do their shopping in an act of solidarity with the southern town that is regularly targeted by rocket and mortar fire from Gaza, organisers said.

The crowd, including personalities from the world of arts, letters and sports, converged on Sderot from across Israel in response to the call, even as two more rockets struck the town without causing casualties.

For several weeks, Sderot residents have demonstrated in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, demanding the government act to stop the attacks by Palestinian militants across the border with the Gaza Strip.

In the past seven years, Palestinian militants have fired some 4,000 rockets on the impoverished town of 24,000 people, and 400 since January alone.

Despite that, only nine people have been killed, according to an AFP count. Even so, people live in constant fear. In December, a survey showed that two-thirds of respondents wanted to move out of Sderot.
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/22/2008 11:55 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why don't they just go live in their concrete basements like olmert told them to?!@

I would have gone John Brown a long time ago. I would have built a giant trebouchet - I mean HUGE and lobbed 30 gallon drums of homemade napalm back at them. Build it stout to that even a direct hit from an illegal GC rocket does little more than make a loud ping. Paint something terrifying on the front like a giant picture of Elijah giving them the bird. Put giant plaques of mooham's face with a bullseye so when the do hit they are striking their main man and feel bad. Train war pigs, fit them with spiked armor. Bait them into attacking the structure and toast them in the open. As it was said, if they can do it you can do it better!

And national government its called a Phalanx you sorry sob's! Falling 'misses' is a feature. Protect your citizens like what it says in your job description! The only one of quality in this sad display of shepherding is the mayor of Sderot. The time of empty gestures of shopping is over, war is upon you!
Posted by: swksvolFF || 02/22/2008 12:25 Comments || Top||

#2  okkkk!
Posted by: sinse || 02/22/2008 13:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Nice rant, swksvolFF! I do believe that's your first one. Barbara Skolaut left me in charge of the popcorn machine while she's at a convention, so I hereby award you a bowl of buttered popcorn and a beer. After that rant, you'll need to rebuild your strength! :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/22/2008 19:13 Comments || Top||

#4  It's a classic. I've read at least 30 times today.

I'm not worthy..
Posted by: Beavis || 02/22/2008 21:56 Comments || Top||

#5  Love the napalm contraption idea swksvolFF!

Ever considered marinading a few thousand Korans in Gasoline or Napalm? Beautiful incendiary devices to lob on the paleo rocket neighborhoods!-

methinks we might be able to get the korans FREE!
<:)
Posted by: RD || 02/22/2008 23:07 Comments || Top||


Islamic Jihad rejects NATO deployment in West Bank
(Xinhua) -- The Islamic Jihad movement on Thursday rejected any NATO deployment in the West Bank as part of a planning Israeli withdrawal from the territory.

The radical Islamic group voiced the rejection in a statement in response to Israeli media reports that the U.S. was considering deploying NATO forces in the West Bank after pushing Israel to end the occupation of the territory. "The Palestinian people don't need a new occupation under the U.S. command," said the Jihad statement. "Palestinians are determined to gain their legal rights including the right of return to homeland," it added.
Posted by: Fred || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Jihad


Hamas warns of "unexpected explosions" if Gaza siege remains
(Xinhua) -- An aide to deposed Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haneya on Thursday warned of "unexpected explosions" of the Palestinian people if the international community did not move to lift siege on the Gaza Strip. "Don't bet on Gaza's patience," Ahmed Yousef, Haneya's political advisor, warned in a statement sent to the press." Gaza is a barrel of burning gunpowder and it can't be subject to the logic of evaluations and assessment by the others," he added.

He accused Israel of putting the Palestinians to the brink of the "explosion," saying "We have talked many times about calmness but Israel wants to keep its hands free to kill, assassinate and invade the occupied territories." He said it's Israel's current suffocating policies to the Palestinians forced Hamas to move to rescue the Palestinian people.

On Jan. 23, Hamas militants blew holes on the border fence separating Gaza and Egypt's Sinai Peninsular and allowed hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to throng into Egyptian side to purchase daily necessities, which were in severe lack in Gaza amid strict Israeli blockade.
Especially ammunition.
As for the border tumult last month, Yousef explained that the troubles at the Gaza-Egypt borders were not meant to make an economic separation between the Abbas-ruled West Bank and Hamas-controlled Gaza. "Opening the borders was a message to the (Israeli) occupation and the world that the policies of pressure and starvation will not weaken the Palestinian people," Yousef said.
Posted by: Fred || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  And if there international community does move to lift the Gaza seige, we can safely expect explosions in other unexpected places.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/22/2008 6:11 Comments || Top||

#2  "Unexpected" explosions, "ambiguous" explosions, "mysterious" explosions? Do they have a catalouge you can pick from?
Yes, they probably do.
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/22/2008 8:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Gaza is a barrel of burning gunpowder . . .
he meant that literally



. . . and it can't be subject to the logic . . .

why start now?

Posted by: PlanetDan || 02/22/2008 9:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Is that in addition to the expected explosions?
Posted by: mojo || 02/22/2008 14:13 Comments || Top||

#5  "Gaza is a barrel of burning gunpowder and it can't be subject to the logic of evaluations and assessment by the others"
Well, at least he got that much correct. I say contain it in a safe area and let it burn out. And he's right about the logic too -- there's not enough logical behavior in Gaza to merit a logical assessment. That's like trying to rationalize the behavior of a raving lunatic.
Posted by: Darrell || 02/22/2008 15:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Is there really a "siege" if there's no desire to capture. It's a blockade along Israel's sovereign border to be sure, but a siege it is not. Hamas, on the other hand, covets Israeli territory, so I'd make the case that Israel is merely defending itself against a Hamas siege.
Posted by: Darrell || 02/22/2008 15:20 Comments || Top||

#7  they're lucky Commodore Frank isn't in charge - I'd order the artillery to level it block by block, giving one hours' notice, for every Kassam sent out. Eventually they'd be pushed into Egypt or the sea. Either way, it's a win.
Posted by: Frank G || 02/22/2008 17:37 Comments || Top||

#8  The Israelis have had plenty of warning that the Paleos are planning this. So if they haven't pre-positioned the area denial microwave weapons yet, more fool they.

You have to admit it would be hilarious if the wall was blown, and thousands of Paleo women and children came rushing through it, then suddenly halted and ran for their lives back to Gaza. And no matter how much prodding and coercion by the men they wouldn't, and couldn't go back into Israel.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/22/2008 20:50 Comments || Top||


European Parliament resolution urges end to Gaza blockade
MEPs say isolating Gaza "has failed on both the political and humanitarian level;" Livni: European community fails to see reality.
Posted by: Fred || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Hamas


'IDF to battle Hamas, Hizbullah'
Defense Minister Ehud Barak relayed a message to Syrian President Bashar Assad through Turkish President Abdullah Gul that Israel is planning to step-up military activities against Hizbullah and Hamas, the London-based newspaper, Al-Hayat, reported on Thursday.

According to the report, Barak encouraged Damascus to take a different stance towards Hizbullah, and emphasized that such a move would be seen as a goodwill gesture, and could open up the possibility for peace negotiations between Israel and Syria.

Turkey is considered one of Israel's closest allies in the Middle East, and an important go-between within the Muslim world.

The report further claimed that the defense minister informed Turkey that Israel plans to launch a massive military operation in the Gaza Strip, while feeling out what the Turkish response might be to such an action.

Barak, according to the report, requested that following the campaign, Turkey take part in an international peacekeeping coalition which would ensure the cessation of Kassam rocket fire, the report said. Other members of the potential international force would include troops from Qatar, Malaysia and Jordan.
I'm sure they're all anxious to send troops to Gazoo. You know, to keep the peace.
Turkey - and particularly Islamist-leaning Prime Minister Recip Erdogan - has been critical of Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip in response to continued Kassam rocket attacks against the western Negev, arguing that Israel's actions threaten to derail the peace plans laid down at the Annapolis Conference last fall. But during Barak's visit, Gul also condemned the Kassam strikes against Israeli communities.

Barak's trip to Turkey - and the veiled warning, if it was made - coincided with the Damascus assassination of Hizbullah's "chief of staff" Imad Mughniyeh, an attack that many assume Israel was behind, although Prime Minister Ehud Olmert quickly denied involvement. The Defense Ministry refused to comment on the report, while associates of Barak said only that stories which derive from leaks do not merit responses.
Posted by: Fred || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Hamas


Israel OKs rare shipment of cement to Gaza
Israel has approved a rare shipment of cement to the Gaza Strip, Israeli officials said Monday, for the construction of a sewage treatment plant to replace one that collapsed last year, killing five people.

The World Bank project had been one exception to Israel's severe restrictions on the entry of building materials and other goods into Gaza after Islamic Hamas militants seized control of the territory in June. Last month, Israel blocked the entrance of supplies for the sewage treatment plant as well, following an escalation of attacks on Israeli border towns by Gaza militants.

The project is one of the first successes of the envoy of the Quartet of Mideast mediators, Tony Blair, who was appointed last summer. The former British prime minister is trying to bolster the Palestinian economy as part of international efforts to help build institutions for a future state.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak agreed to allow the shipment of cement to Gaza in a meeting Sunday with French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner, officials from Barak's office said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not allowed to discuss the matter with the press.

The project is meant to replace a dilapidated plant in northern Gaza where sewage pools collapsed last year, killing five people.

The Palestinian supervisor of the project, Sadi Ali, said Monday that he thought he could finish most of the project by August if cement were to arrive within two months. This would allow 90 percent of the sewage flowing to the old plant to be redirected to the new facility and thus reduce the health hazard, Ali said.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just enough for 6,000 pairs of cement overshoes.
Posted by: SteveS || 02/22/2008 0:29 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd say no more cement until that plant actually shows up on the map.
Posted by: gorb || 02/22/2008 3:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Cut it with talcum powder.
Posted by: rhodesiafever || 02/22/2008 11:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Marked "footwear"?
Posted by: mojo || 02/22/2008 14:14 Comments || Top||

#5  59% flyash content, mark it "Three Gorges Approved"
Posted by: Frank G || 02/22/2008 17:46 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Former Boomer Subs now carry 154 Ticket to Paradise dispensers
February 22, 2008: The U.S. Navy has completed the conversion of the last of four Ohio class ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs), to cruise missile submarines (SSGN). Each of these boats now carries 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles, and provides space (for living, working and training) for 66 commandos (usually SEALs) and their equipment.

The idea of converting ballistic missile subs, that would have to be scrapped to fulfill disarmament agreements, has been bouncing around since the 1990s. After September 11, 2001, the idea got some traction. The navy submariners love this one, because they lost a lot of their reason for being, with the end of the Cold War. The United States had built a powerful nuclear submarine force during the Cold War, but with the rapid disappearance of the Soviet Navy in the 1990s, there was little reason to keep over a hundred U.S. nuclear subs in commission. These boats are expensive, costing over a billion each to build and over a million dollars a week to operate. The four Ohio class SSBN being converted each have at least twenty years of life left in them. The conversions weren't cheap, each one cost over $400 million.

The idea of a sub, armed with 154 highly accurate cruise missiles, and capable of rapidly traveling under water (ignoring weather, or observation) at a speed of over 1,200 kilometers a day, to a far off hot spot, had great appeal in the post-Cold War world. The ability to carry a large force of commandos as well was also appealing. The Ohio SSGNs can also carry a wide variety of electronic sensors and other data collecting gear. Thus in one sub you have your choice of hammer or scalpel. More capable cruise missiles are in the works as well. Whether or not this multi-billion dollar investment will pay off remains to be seen. But it's certainly a bold move, and the navy already knows that Tomahawks and SEALs work.

Like the SSBNs, the SSGNs will have two crews (each with 159 personnel, not including commandoes), which will switch places in the boat every 3-4 months, flying out (if need be) to wherever the boat is for the swap. The SSGNs will apparently spend most of their time on intelligence collecting missions. As such, it may be a while before you hear any details.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 02/22/2008 12:03 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Its nice to hear a kind word about boomers ;)
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 14:06 Comments || Top||

#2  As such, it may be a while before you hear any details
We may never hear the actual details. Legally,anyway. Although you may read about it in the New York Slimes. Or President Obama may tell everybody after stopping the program.
Posted by: Rambler in California || 02/22/2008 14:11 Comments || Top||

#3  154 tickets to paradise... hehehe

Lessee, 154*72=11,088 virgins at 1 per shot. Actual costs for Allan will be higher... but that still is a lot of virgins.
Posted by: DarthVader || 02/22/2008 14:23 Comments || Top||

#4  66 SEALS and 154 Tomahawks? There's a lotta countries in the world you could take over with just one of these things.
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/22/2008 14:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Subs are such magnificent boats that I hope this encourages the US Navy to reconsider ballistic missile sub decommissioning calendars in favor of diminished mission rebuilds like this.

The Trident, especially, was over-designed with the anticipation of huge computers and missiles, instead of smaller versions of both, so is spacious inside. This means vast area for cargo and equipment instead of the usually cramped quarters on typical submarines.

Right now, the optimum conversion is to conventional cruise missiles; but this is subject to change in the future.

Just off the top of my head, I can imagine a sub carrying perhaps 120 Reaper UAVs. Launched from a sub to provide instant CAS to ground forces, then landing in the friendly rear area for refueling and rearmament. There are lots of situations where you can use CAS that you cannot use Tomahawks.

Years ago it was noted that a fully loaded Trident could still carry so many naval mines that a single boat could, and was able, to mine an area as large as the Chesapeake Bay. Ironically, the US Navy only has a relatively tiny number of naval mines in its arsenal.

Another application would be to "mine with torpedoes" a large ocean area with something like a combination of a MK-48 torpedo and a mine. Sitting idly on the ocean floor until it detected the known sound of an enemy vessel in range, then going active. By doing so, a single sub could put thousands of square miles of ocean off limits to enemy shipping.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/22/2008 15:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Another application would be to "mine with torpedoes" a large ocean area with something like a combination of a MK-48 torpedo and a mine.

There already is such a device. It's an ASW weapon.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/22/2008 21:48 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran Could Have Enough Uranium for a Bomb by Year's End
Posted by: Beavis || 02/22/2008 12:52 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's ok, we can still screw around until November till we have to deal with this. Step one is try to discredit the report so we don't have to do anything though. Step two is prance around like a bunch of gutless fairies at the UN and make the entire world laught at us. Step three is send GWB back to Saudi Arabia with his presidential kneepads, but this time not to blow them for oil but for permission to try to stop the Iraniacs before they destroy Israel.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 02/22/2008 18:00 Comments || Top||

#2  Remeber intelligence under estimate the speed that Russia and China would achieve nuclear weapons.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/22/2008 18:32 Comments || Top||

#3  The threat has always been dual - indigenous manufacture versus covert international tech/weapons transfer. Again, RUSSIA > broadly views the KOSOVO situation as another US-LED/INDUCED "INTELLIGENCE" OR "COVERT/BLACK OPS", REGIONAL-GLOBAL VENTURE TO DESTABILIZE AND THREATEN RUSSIA = RUSS INTERESTS IN EURASIA + PAN-SLAVIC AGENDA. As similar to RADICAL ISLAM, RUSS-CHIN ARE ALSO CLOSELY WATCHING THE 2008 POTUS ELEX vv ANY SIGN OF A WEAK, STRONGLY/
HEAVILY DIVIDED OR SECTARIAN POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS [Year 2000 redux].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/22/2008 18:57 Comments || Top||

#4  "W" has decided to pass this 'buck' to the next administration to resolve!
Posted by: smn || 02/22/2008 20:42 Comments || Top||


Israel faces certain death: Iran
The assassination of a top commander of the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah has hastened the “certain death” of Israel, the top military adviser to Iran’s supreme leader said on Thursday.

General Yahya Rahim Safavi, in the latest of a spate of anti-Israel verbal attacks by Iran, said the murder of Imad Mughnieh in a Damascus car bombing last week had enraged thousands of young members of Hezbollah. “With this anger, the certain death of the Zionist regime had been brought forward,” he said, according to the state-run IRNA news agency.

US, Arab role: Safavi, who was for a decade top commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, again accused Israel of carrying out the attack that killed Mughnieh but also said that “security terrorists” from the United States and “one Arab nation” had cooperated. He did not name the Arab country. Iran has stepped up its rhetoric against Israel in the last days after the murder of Mughnieh, which it blamed on the Jewish state. Israel has denied any involvement.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Wednesday called Israel a “dirty microbe” and “savage animal”.The current head of the Revolutionary Guards, Iran’s ideological army, Mohammad Ali Jafari, weighed in with a prediction that Hezbollah would destroy the Jewish state.
Posted by: Fred || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Could someone ask O'bama if these are "just words"?
Posted by: gorb || 02/22/2008 3:02 Comments || Top||

#2  good one, gorb. Very good.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 02/22/2008 9:43 Comments || Top||

#3  I will like to see this title monster go to hell, the sooner the better for the whole world.
Posted by: lena || 02/22/2008 13:40 Comments || Top||

#4  WAFF.com > IN.GR [Greece] -RUSSIA WARNS NATO ENVOY OVER KOSOVO. ARTICLE - Russia allegedly warned that it is prepared to use "BRUTE MILITARY FORCE" as option to get respect iff NATO oversteps it bounds vv KOSOVO and iff UNO pstently ignores Russian interests on the matter???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/22/2008 20:17 Comments || Top||

#5  NATO ain't gonna do nothin' Joe. And boy am I tired of the Iran Threat of the Day. Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?
Posted by: regular joe || 02/22/2008 22:49 Comments || Top||

#6  See also TOPIX > CONTAINING THE IRAN/SYRIA AXIS, + IS IRAN PLANNING TO ATTACK [vv POTUS Obama?]???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/22/2008 23:28 Comments || Top||


Beirut Islamic summit bans factional fighting
Muslim religious leaders on Thursday tabooed factional fighting, supported the Arab initiative and the election of Gen. Michel Suleiman president.

The statement was released after a summit meeting grouping Sunni Grand Mufti Sheikh Mohammed Rashid Qabani, vice chairman of the Higher Islamic Shiite Council Sheikh Abdul Amir Qabalan and Druze religious leader Sheikh Naim Hassan. It specifically labeled Taboo "factional fighting, challenges, striking at institutions, shops and houses." The statement, recited by Qabalan following the meeting at his office, termed Beirut "the mother of capitals, the capital of Lebanon, free independent Arab resisting Lebanon."

"The Islamic Summit pleads with you to be responsible," the statement said, addressing "our relatives everywhere."

The statement declared support for "the Arab initiative … the Arab League is responsible … for Lebanon's stability and calm."

"We call for the election of a consensus president, especially Gen. Michel Suleiman and we call for the formation of a National Unity Government based on partnership and on the concept of no conqueror and no vanquished," the statement added.

"Lebanon's only enemy is Israel," the Muslim religious leaders declared.

It pleaded with Politicians to "have mercy on this people," promising more Islamic Summits and meetings with Christian religious authorities to agree on "a remedy that puts an end to all tensions."
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The Islamic Summit pleads with you to be responsible."

Uhhh…good luck with that one.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 02/22/2008 9:27 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
If My Father Is a Terrorist, Bush Is a Terrorist Too: OBL's Brat
Following are excerpts from an interview with Omar Bin Laden, son of Osama Bin Laden, which aired on Channel 1 Egyptian TV on January 28, 2008:

Omar Bin Laden: "There is no coercion in Islam." Whoever wants to wage Jihad is welcome, and whoever does not want to – that's fine too.

Interviewer: Do you consider this to be a real Jihad for the sake of Islam, which benefits the religion of Islam?
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 02/22/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "There is no coercion in Islam." Tell that to your Dad and his compadres

This article is ripe for a frisking. The left in this country was drooling over this moron's announcement as a "Peace Activist", he's a freaking apologist.



Posted by: Don Vito Gramp1495 || 02/22/2008 0:56 Comments || Top||

#2  "There is no coercion in Islam."

"There is no homosexuality in Islam."

"Those who refuse to agree that Islam is the religion of peace and non-violence should be tortured and killed."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/22/2008 9:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Why don't this greaseball just keep banging his British grandmother honey and be grateful he's not at Guantanamo...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/22/2008 9:32 Comments || Top||

#4  My terrorist is better than your terrorist.
Posted by: gorb || 02/22/2008 11:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Who is this 'Islam' you keep talking about?

When the word jihad is used only, only, as a term to improve ones golf game I will begin to listen to this trust fund hippie brat who does not even know his father nevermind able to talk for him. His father lived more in one day on top a mountain in afghanistan than this tub of goat butter has his entire life. <> And dating a dirty pink girl, how pathetic /sarc
Posted by: swksvolFF || 02/22/2008 12:08 Comments || Top||

#6  I think what OMAR is trying to say is that the Masses = Voters are ultimately responsible for the policies of their Govt + Nation, and that iff the latter engages in vari forms of [wilful?]international milpol malice, it is becuz the former have allowed or tolerated it ergo CANNOT CLAIM TO BE WHOLLY INNOCENT. IOW, OMAR > WHAT GOES AROUND, COME AROUND; + ONE SIDE CANNOT CLAIM THEY CAN DO SOMETHING, BUT OTHERS CANNOT DO THE SAME AGZ THEM.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/22/2008 19:11 Comments || Top||



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