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2008-02-22 Europe

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Posted by Fred 2008-02-22 00:00|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 [Anonymous has been pooplisted.]

Posted by Anonymous 2008-02-22 00:08|| 2008-02-22 00:08|| Front Page Top

Posted by Idont Care 2008-02-22 00:10|| 2008-02-22 00:10|| Front Page Top

#3 When Serbian rioters burned the US embassy they went from being right to being bomb targest of convenience for all I'm concerned. Burning an embassy is an act of war.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-02-22 00:40|| 2008-02-22 00:40|| Front Page Top

#4 It may be an act of stupidity, but it isn't act of war. An act of war would be if it were done with government compliance, like Iran.

I don't see complicity here.

Posted by Pappy 2008-02-22 01:05|| 2008-02-22 01:05|| Front Page Top

#5 Pappy, read further down in the article:

On Thursday, the neighboring Croatian Embassy also was targeted by the same group of protesters at the U.S. Embassy, and smaller groups attacked police posts outside the Turkish and British embassies in another part of the city but were beaten back.

Seems awfully convenient... Mayhap the Serbian Government wanted some broken windows and forgot that mobs love to burn things...

Posted by Tyranysaurus Thineger1966 2008-02-22 06:59|| 2008-02-22 06:59|| Front Page Top

#6 Can't really blame the protesters. The average Serb feels like they got the short end of the stick after '92 and then the US bent 'em over and took full advantage. This view has only been enhanced by the government propaganda. The fact that the Serb government didn't provide police protection to our embassy, but did others is a cheap political trick to get back at the US.

Act of war, no. Dirty politics, yes.
I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of those "protesters" were Serb intelligence agents.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-02-22 07:24|| 2008-02-22 07:24|| Front Page Top

#7 It took police about 45 minutes to appear at the scene,

Detroit police, maybe...

Posted by Raj 2008-02-22 07:36|| 2008-02-22 07:36|| Front Page Top

#8 Belgrade's Pink TV said the body appeared to be that of a rioter.

Heh. Either hoist on his own petard, or someone took the opportunity to settle their own score.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2008-02-22 08:04|| 2008-02-22 08:04|| Front Page Top

#9 !. Somebody should tell the WaPo and its idiot Slobodan that the embassy belongs to the United States, NOT Belgrade. It's the US embassy in Belgrade, NOT Belgrade's embassy.

2. The hooligans were part of a Serbian government sponsored anti US rally that got out of hand and the police had orders not to use force in restraining the rioters, at least at first. That's government complicity.

3. We had evacuated the embassy, so we must have known something was coming, perhaps through our national technical means.

4. It is sovereign U. S. Territory. If we weren't going to keep Marines on duty to repel boarders by all necessary means, we should have booby trapped the place and told the world we had.

5. We should pull all troops and diplomats out of the Balkans, and issue travel alertsto all Americans warning them that this is not a safe part of the world and that they go there entirely at their own risk.

6. We should forget about the Balkans. It's Europe's problem. The EU (pbui) has a bigger economy and more defence resources to address it than we. Leave it to Luigi.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-02-22 08:35|| 2008-02-22 08:35|| Front Page Top

#10 More than a dozen nations have recognized Kosovo's declaration of independence, including the United States

I think it's safe to assume that the US did a tad more the just "recognize" Kosovo's independence.

Posted by DepotGuy 2008-02-22 08:59|| 2008-02-22 08:59|| Front Page Top

#11 Ahem, wasn't Kosovo one of Hillary/Bill's "Accomplishments"? Weren't the Serbs/Kosovars singing cumbaya and reading poetry to each other after the Clintons left office? /snark

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2008-02-22 08:59|| 2008-02-22 08:59|| Front Page Top

#12 Leave it to Luigi.

NS, I think you've found your slogan!

Posted by lotp 2008-02-22 09:34|| 2008-02-22 09:34|| Front Page Top

#13 "Can't really blame the protesters. "

Fuck it, theyre no less blameworthy than Muslims doing the same thing.

Im not saying we go to war with Serbia over an embassy - but I can tell you, I aint crying no tears over the "protestor" who died while fucking around inside our embassy.

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-02-22 10:30|| 2008-02-22 10:30|| Front Page Top

#14 ...theyre no less blameworthy than Muslims doing the same thing.

True, but I am not going to blame people that have been immersed in the culture and propaganda that the US is an evil, imperial country that picks on the weak.

However, it still won't keep me from killing the bastards if they proceed to harm my country. As far as I'm concerned, the dead serb got what he deserved.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-02-22 10:42|| 2008-02-22 10:42|| Front Page Top

#15 Clinton bombing a country at war with it's own muslim population and this is what it bought.

Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger 2008-02-22 11:20|| 2008-02-22 11:20|| Front Page Top

#16 US should never, never have got involved in this deal. Thanks president clinton, you ass. I have the feeling my kids are going to be cleaning up your mess as my generation is already reaping your shit.

Europe is right there. They could walk over there. Time to move everything worth keeping to Lake Havasu and let eu figure it out like they have always done - royalty and peasants and war.

coffee.

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-02-22 11:51|| 2008-02-22 11:51|| Front Page Top

#17 I wouldn't get too exercised about how the Serbians committed an act of war here. After all, the U.S. committed an act of war against Serbia when we bombed them so they might just figure they are defending themselves. I don't have a warm, fuzzy feeling about how we're fighting on the right side in this war and I'd just as soon we get the hell out of it.

I didn't watch the debate in Austin last night so I'm wondering if anybody there had sense enough to bring this issue to the attention of the candidates. It'd be interesting to hear what they have to say about it. I mean, we already know what they have to say about Iraq and health care. Do they know anything about any other issues?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-02-22 12:27|| 2008-02-22 12:27|| Front Page Top

#18 I wouldn't get too exercised about how the Serbians committed an act of war here. After all, the U.S. committed an act of war against Serbia when we bombed them so they might just figure they are defending themselves. I don't have a warm, fuzzy feeling about how we're fighting on the right side in this war and I'd just as soon we get the hell out of it.

we bombed them 8 years ago. Since then theyve invited us back into our embasssy. You think youre in a state of war, you expel the ambasssador and the other diplos. You accept an embassy, you got obligations towards it. Same as the Iranians have an obligation to the Danish embassy, etc, etc.

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-02-22 16:20|| 2008-02-22 16:20|| Front Page Top

#19 Clinton bombing a country at war with it's own muslim population and this is what it bought.

the implied bigotry of youre remark aside, are you at all aware that some ethnic Albanians are orthodox christians, and some ethnic Serbs in Kosovo were muslims(theyd be called Bosniaks,maybe, except they didnt live in Bosnia)?

Posted by liberalhawk 2008-02-22 16:21|| 2008-02-22 16:21|| Front Page Top

#20 Kosovo was and should be none of our business.

Posted by Sockpuppet of Doom 2008-02-22 18:29|| 2008-02-22 18:29|| Front Page Top

#21 CNN > BREAKING - US State Department has decided to withdraw all embassy personnel and dependents from Serbia???

ION, GUAM K57 Radio/PNC > BREAKING - MILITARY AIRCRAFT REPORTED ON FIRE AT ANDERSEN AFB, + UPDATE: WITNESSES SAY AIRCRAFT IS A B-2 BOMBER. USAF B-2 "Spirit" Bomber appears to had crashed on the tarmac - pilots reported as safe.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-02-22 20:26|| 2008-02-22 20:26|| Front Page Top

#22 I no longer believe in random riots attacking embassies. There is almost always some kind off government organization either behind the scenes or openly.

The US may have had no business getting involved in the Balkins during Clinton but the Serbs were involved in some sick shit in Bosnia and possibly Kosovo and playing the upset victim doesn't change that.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-02-22 20:39|| 2008-02-22 20:39|| Front Page Top

#23 No problem mon. Just close the embassy for remodeling for the next 50 years. I won't care one bit if no more visas are issued for that part of the world.

Posted by ed 2008-02-22 20:44|| 2008-02-22 20:44|| Front Page Top

#24 TOPIX > RUSSIA SAYS IT HAS NO HAND IN SERBIAN VIOLENCE, agz US embassy. Warns NATO envoy that FORCE may be used to get respect.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-02-22 23:43|| 2008-02-22 23:43|| Front Page Top

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