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Africa North
New Libya: no place for extremist Islam, sez interim leader
Libya won’t turn into an extremist Islamic country, its interim leader assured the European Union’s top diplomat on Saturday, adding that the formation of a new government of experts is to be completed in the coming week.

“The European Union wants to be with you on this journey, to try and help overcome the political and social barriers, to help ensure your role in shaping your future,” [EU foreign policy chief Catherine] Ashton said.

The EU has so far given Libya 155 million euros in humanitarian support and is to help in other fields, including building state institutions and supporting the health sector, an EU statement said.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/14/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Abdul-Jalil: Libya Will Be Modern Islamic State
[Tripoli Post] Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, the head Libya's National Transitional Council Saturday decided to put his neck out in a meeting with the European Union
...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing...
's foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton when he assured her that Libya won't turn into an turban Islamic country.

At a joint news conference in Tripoli with the EU's top diplomat Ms Ashton, who opened a delegation in Tripoli, Abdul-Jalil said: "We will not be an turban Islamic country. Our Islam is moderate."
Define 'moderate', do so in both English and Arabic, and make sure the two agree...
He added that the formation of a new government of experts is to be completed in the coming week.

Ms Ashton also held talks with Libya's interim leaders as the bloc moved to cement relations. Heralding the bloc's commitment to assist recovery from the eight-month conflict and "build a new Libya based on the rule of law, democracy and human rights."
...which are usually open to widely divergent definitions...

In Tripoli, she met National Transitional Council (NTC) particularly NTC chairman Mustafa Abdul Jalil and prime minister Abdurrahim el-Keeb, visited Martyrs' Square, and addressed the first Libyan Women's Rights Forum.

Last month Abdul-Jalil said that Islamic Shariah law would be the main source of legislation in the new Libya and that tenets violating it would be nullified. His statement caused a stir in the West, but Saturday's explanation will help stifle their concerns.

Following the NTC chairman's earlier statement, other council members were reported saying that Abdul-Jalil had expressed his personal views on the role of Shariah law. They further noted that a constitution, which would address the role of religion in Libya, will only be written next year.

In the joint presser, Ashton, whose visit came 48 hours ahead of a meeting of the EU's 27 foreign ministers, said she will look at means of helping Libya recover from the months-long conflict. She added that both sides discussed the elections planned for Libya in eight months, the security situation and the country's post-war reconstruction.

Asked for comment on the impact on Libyan women of polygamy and a ban on divorce, Ashton's spokeswoman last month said, "we expect the new Libya to be based on respect for human rights and democratic principles."

As part of Libya's transition to democracy, following the fall of the former dictatorial regime of former leader Muammar Al Qadaffy,
...a reminder that a single man with an idea can screw up an entire nation...
a new interim government will run the country for eight months until a national assembly is elected by June.

Abdul-Jalil said that the workings of this interim government have already been given a kick-start with the recent appointment of Abdurrahim el-Keeb as prime minister, who has also been tasked with presenting a list of names of ministers to the NTC in the coming week.

It would be a kind of a technocratic government with ministers to be chosen based on expertise, not tribal considerations, the NTC chief said.

Ms Ashton said her visit to Tripoli was intended to show her support for the new Libya. "We hope to be here for many years as your partner," she told Abdul-Jalil.

In a statement Saturday, Ashton said the 27-nation bloc would continue to support civil society in Libya, "in particular women and young people, who have a major role to play in shaping Libya's future."

She added: "Opening a fully decampedged EU delegation in Tripoli underlines the EU's commitment to our close relationship with the Libyan people, both during the political transition and in the long term."

She went on to say that she would try to ensure that billions of dollars in Libyan assets abroad, frozen as part of international sanctions against the former Al Qadaffy regime, will be released as quickly as possible.
Posted by: Fred || 11/14/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Exporting oil and terrorism?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/14/2011 3:59 Comments || Top||

#2  And refugees.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/14/2011 10:16 Comments || Top||

#3  modern islamic = oxymoron
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 11/14/2011 12:10 Comments || Top||

#4  modern islamic = oxymoron

Not at all. modern islamic = let leftards help.
Posted by: gr(o)mgoru || 11/14/2011 12:23 Comments || Top||

#5  the formation of a new government of experts is to be completed in the coming week.

Now there's a phrase to warm the cockles of a EUcrats heart. One more tyrannical "technocracy" just like the EU as pictured by Monnet so long ago and still the utopian future according to the wankers of today.
Posted by: AlanC || 11/14/2011 15:34 Comments || Top||


Britain
UK doesn't rule out military option against Iran
Britain does not rule out military action against Iran over its controversial nuclear program, Foreign Secretary William Hague said on Monday. Asked about the possibility of military action, Hague said: "We are not considering that at the moment. We are not calling or advocating military action. At the same time we say all options should remain in future."

Mr Hague, speaking to reporters during talks between EU foreign ministers, said: "Of course we will also look over the coming months to increase the peaceful legitimate pressure on Iran as part of our dual track approach of being available for negotiations if they're real negotiations but at the same time placing more pressure on Iran through sanctions."

The 27 ministers will discuss the possibility of new sanctions on Iran. "Strong new restrictive measures" would be chosen at a new meeting in a couple of weeks should Iran dig in its heels, said diplomats.
Posted by: ryuge || 11/14/2011 05:13 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My God.

Not the harshly worded memo delivered by a lance corporal who will immediately taken prisoner, convert to islam, and then condemn Britain as a islamophobic warmonger.
Posted by: kelly || 11/14/2011 13:28 Comments || Top||

#2  ION TOPIX > [US SecDef]PANETTA: MILITARY STRIKE AGZ IRAN TO HAVE "UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES", for ME Region + US.

At best, Paney believes that any US, Israeli milstrike agz Iran now will merely DELAY its NucProgs by NMT three years [2014-2015?].

IIUC, PANETTA = has indirectly argued that, short of internal "Regime Change", the only real way to stop Iran from acquiring NucWeaps is via MILITARY INVASION + OCCUPATION.

[1960's = 1980's OLIVER STONE'S "PLATOON", MTV "WHITE RABBIT" VIDEO here].

"...Until the SEVEN/SEVENTH holds the line".


and

* SAME > IRANIANS TO FORM HUMAN CHAIN [Civilian?Shield] AROUND NUKE FACILITIES [UCF = Uranium Conversion Facility at ISFAHAN].

* SAME > MHER BAGDASARYAN: WAR AGZ IRAN WILL BE DESTRUCTIVE FOR [ME Region +] ALL HUMANITY.

* SAME > IRAN SUPREME LEADER [Khamenei] PORMISES TO MEET ANY ATTACK WID "IRON FISTS", + hard face slaps to any + all of Iran's enemies.

* SAME > EXPERTS: IRAN MAY ATTACK TURKEY IN RESPONSE TO US, ISRAEL STRIKE.

* SAME > GEOPOLITICAL MEANING OF US ANTI-BALLISTIC MISSLE DEFENSE. US = US-led protection + proliferation of Turkey, espec vee Iran.

* SAME > AMERICA HAS BECOME TOO OCCUPIED BY "OCCUPY" MOVEMENT'S RADICALISM + NOT ISLAM"S [growing]RADICAL THREAT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/14/2011 22:55 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Iran, N. Korea Run Joint Nuclear Research Center
A Japanese daily claims that Iran and North Korea run a joint nuclear research center to carry out computer simulations of nuclear tests.

Japan's Sankei Shimbun on Thursday said Iran has three secret research centers across the country. And a dozen North Korean researchers and experts have visited the facilities this year to share information about nuclear technology.

The report goes on to say that the two countries are running the tests to develop starting devices for nuclear bombs.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/14/2011 07:38 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they have facilities in Venezuela, too.
Posted by: crosspatch || 11/14/2011 15:35 Comments || Top||

#2  IIRC TOPIX > FOOD CRISIS CAUSING MORE NORTH KOREANS TO RESORT TO TAKING DRUGS, SUICIDE, OR DEFECTION, to escape their situation.

Construc of their new DPRK NucPlant at Yongybon is repor nearing completion, although I don't think the Israeli Air Force can reach/project out that far.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/14/2011 22:14 Comments || Top||

#3  [BENNY HILL'S "EVEIL EYE" OF INQUISITIVE DUTCH = DOUCHE' INTRIGUE here].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/14/2011 22:16 Comments || Top||


Europe
Muslims outraged over pig parts dumped at Swiss mosque site
Muslims in Switzerland are responding with shock and outrage after a pig carcass and severed swine heads were discovered buried at the site of a proposed mosque.

Police in the town of Grenchen uncovered the pigs Friday after they received an anonymous message claiming that someone had buried the body parts and spilled 120 liters of blood from the animals in an effort to desecrate the ground to halt the construction of the mosque.

Pork and pork byproducts are haram, or forbidden, in Islam.

The unsigned flier, written in German, says "This operation was done (conducted) to protest against the growing expansion of Islam in Switzerland," and says that a similar desecration in Spain earlier halted another mosque construction project.

Thomas Suber, chief of the Solothurn Canton police, told CNN by phone that there were no suspects currently, but that a full investigation is under way.

"We can't say yet it is a hate crime in those words, but it could have been done to stop the mosque," said Suber.

Suber said that whoever is responsible may be brought up on environmental pollution charges.

The police chief says that veterinary health officials have been called in to find if pig's blood has in fact been spilled, and that charges may be filed over illegal dumping of animal parts in addition to other potential criminal charges.

But for Muslims in Switzerland, it's just the latest sign that they are being victimized by some in the far right.

Abdel Azziz Qaasim Illi, spokesman for Switzerland's Central Islamic Council said the deed "crossed a line" that had already been pushed against Muslims since a popular referendum in 2009 banned the construction of new minarets.
Posted by: tipper || 11/14/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Posted by: Skidmark || 11/14/2011 2:03 Comments || Top||

#2  I guess some Swiss are outraged as well.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/14/2011 2:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Should this be considered as a case of Biological warfare or Theological warfare ?
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 11/14/2011 6:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Switzerland's Central Islamic Council (Islamischer Zentralrat Schweiz) is a salafist/islamofascist outfit. Qaasim (Patric) Illi is an ethnic Swiss convert to Islam, and a former pal of Sheikh Yassin.

His wife Nora Illi is an ethic Swiss convert to Islam as well. Here's an article in German plus photograph.

Some choice quotes from Illi's website during the second intifada:
«Zwei Linienbusse voll mit Zionisten-Besatzungs-Bastarden gesprengt. Die Brüder erlegten min. 16 Zionisten und mehr als 91 wurden verletzt»,
"Two transit busses full of Zionist-Occupier bastards blown up. The brothers culled at least 16 Zionists and more than 91 were injured."

«Breaking News: Explosion in Taba, Hilton in die Luft gesprengt, viele Zionisten-Schweine in kleine, handliche Stücke zerlegt. Mind. 35 Tote, 250 Verletzte. In Gaza feiern die Massen. Allahu Akbar!»
"Breaking News: Explosion in Taba, Hilton blown up, many Zionist-pigs cut up into small manageable pieces. The masses are celebrating in Gaza. Allan's Snackbar!"

I'm not shedding any tears over Mr Illi's precious little feelings being hurt.
Posted by: Snineth Clunk5088 || 11/14/2011 6:32 Comments || Top||

#5  sounds like the swiss were outraged by Islam desecrating their land. civilised behaviour is harangue in Islamic lands.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 11/14/2011 7:19 Comments || Top||

#6  I get kind of outraged when they discover human body parts and blood in torched or dynamited churches located in predominately 'Religion of Peas®' countries, too. Plus, the authorities there do even less than what the good Constable Suber appears to be doing here.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 11/14/2011 8:24 Comments || Top||

#7  Anyone think they might have done it themselves?

Wouldn't be the first (or second, or third, or ...) time.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/14/2011 8:26 Comments || Top||

#8  Entirely possible. Expected, even. When the infidels just aren't generating enough outrage to keep them happy, why, it's for the good of the community to manufacture some.
Posted by: RandomJD || 11/14/2011 12:43 Comments || Top||

#9  Is there some kind of outrage deficit?
Posted by: gorb || 11/14/2011 19:47 Comments || Top||

#10  Them Switzermen are funnin with the Islamics who ain't got no sense of humor. I just hope no pigt blood was spilt.
Posted by: Hank || 11/14/2011 21:59 Comments || Top||

#11  MUSLIMS OUTRAGED OVER PIG PARTS DUMPED AT SWISS MOSQUE SITE

That's offal.
Posted by: gorb || 11/14/2011 22:38 Comments || Top||

#12  The reason that Sarah Palin is not vice-president right now is that she cannot take a punch and keep on truckin'. She just has to claw out the eyes of her tormentor.

That is a natural thing, just not a Christian thing.

So, you Islams, don't be like Sarah, get to being more Christian, or you get a big fat fail posted on your forehead by everyone you want to love you.

Oh, perhaps that is hard for you.

Continue to fail then. I don't mind.
Posted by: rammer || 11/14/2011 23:00 Comments || Top||

#13  Is there some kind of outrage deficit?

Yes, exactly. Ever spend time in Switzerland? It's hard to be outraged about much of anything. But Muslims surrounded by pork-eating, beer-swilling infidels may feel obligated to be outraged, lest Allan (or some Islamofascist head-chopper) suspect their faith is inauthentic. If they can't find anything real to be outraged about . . . well then, why not make something up.
Posted by: RandomJD || 11/14/2011 23:14 Comments || Top||


3 Swiss to avoid trial in nuclear case
[Dawn] Swiss prosecutors will opt to avoid a public trial for three Swiss men suspected of giving nuclear weapons technology and supplies to a rogue network in Pakistain, a newspaper reported Sunday.

The case is politically sensitive for Switzerland
...home of the Helvetians, famous for cheese, watches, yodeling, and William Tell...
and the United States because of alleged national security implications, the men's alleged CIA ties, and repeated instances of evidence being destroyed. It involves charges of violating Swiss nonproliferation laws.

The Federal Prosecutors Office in Bern was quoted as saying it plans to use a shortened procedure to require a penalty but no trial if the nation's top criminal court doesn't object and the men plead guilty, the Zurich weekly newspaper SonntagsZeitung reported.

Bern prosecutors' office did not immediately respond to an News Agency that Dare Not be Named request for comment.

Urs Tinner, his brother Marco and their father Friedrich have been under investigation by Swiss authorities for almost a decade for supplying equipment and technical know-how to an international smuggling ring led by Pak scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan.

Urs Tinner was released in December 2008 after almost five years in investigative detention without being charged.

As the creator of Pakistain's atomic bomb, Khan sold the centrifuges for secret nuclear weapons programs in countries that included Libya and Iran before his operation was disrupted in 2003.

A spokeswoman for the federal prosecutors, Walburga Bur, has previously told AP that a shortened procedure was possible under which the Swiss engineers admit the basic charges against them but face no more than five years imprisonment. Normally, anyone who breaks Swiss laws banning the export of nuclear material faces up to 10 years imprisonment.

Urs Tinner, who like his brother and father has been released on bail pending charges, claimed in an 2009 interview with Swiss TV station SF1 that he had worked with US intelligence. He said he had tipped off the CIA about a delivery of centrifuge parts meant for Libya's nuclear weapons program.

The CIA has declined to comment on the case.

The shipment was seized at the Italian port of Taranto in 2003, which forced Libya to admit and eventually renounce its efforts to acquire nuclear weapons, and helped expose Khan's smuggling ring.

The case against the Tinners sparked a political outcry in Switzerland after it was revealed that the Swiss government repeatedly ordered evidence destroyed, allegedly under pressure from senior US officials.

The Swiss government cited national security concerns, but a parliamentary investigation found there had been no immediate danger to Switzerland's security.

A Swiss investigating magistrate, Andreas Mueller, who oversaw the last three years of a six-year federal probe against the Tinners, recommended last December that the government bring charges against the three men.

Mueller said his recommendation, contained in a confidential report to federal prosecutors, was based on an exhaustive probe. He said the Tinners had worked for the CIA since June 2003 and did not deny also working for the Khan network.
Posted by: Fred || 11/14/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


India-Pakistan
US Republicans sharply criticise Pakistan in debate
[Dawn] Pakistain took a lot of criticism in Saturday's Republican US presidential debate, with a leading candidate saying it was nearly a failed state and another suggesting the United States cut its foreign aid to zero.

But it is unclear whether any of their ideas is likely to be imposed on a country that has nuclear weapons and whose cooperation is seen as vital to stabilising Afghanistan as the United States prepares to pull out from there by the end of 2014.

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney said Pakistain has multiple centers of power including the relatively weak civilian leadership, the military and the powerful intelligence agency know as the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate.

"The right way to deal with Pakistain is to recognise that Pakistain is not a country, like other countries, with a strong political center that you can go to and say, 'Gee, can we come here, will you take care of this problem?'" Romney said.

"This is instead a nation which is close to being a failed state. I hope it doesn't reach that point, but it's really a fragile nation," he said.

Polls point to Romney as the Republican who would be the most likely among the party's crop of candidates to defeat President Barack My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it Obama, a Democrat, in the November 2012 US presidential election. The Republicans begin choosing their nominee in state contests beginning in January.

Texas Governor Rick Perry suggested that every country, including Pakistain, should see its US aid eliminated each year and then should convince the United States why it deserves any money at all.

"Then we'll have a conversation in this country about whether or not a penny of our taxpayer dollars needs to go into those countries," Perry said in response to a question about whether Islamabad was playing a double game with Washington.

"Pakistain is clearly sending us messages ... that they don't deserve our foreign aid ... because they're not being honest with us," he added.

"American soldiers' lives are being put at jeopardy because of that country ... and it's time for us as a country to say no to foreign aid to countries that don't support the United States of America," he said.

'FRIEND OR FOE'

Businessman Herman Cain
...the personable former Godfather's Pizza CEO and quite possibly the next president of the U.S...
had difficulty offering a direct response when asked whether Pakistain was ultimately an ally or adversary. "There isn't a clear answer as to whether or not Pakistain is a friend or foe," Cain said.

US officials have long argued that the Taliban and other hard boyz enjoy safe havens in Pakistain from which they attack US soldiers in neighboring Afghanistan.

They privately argue Pakistain plays a double game, taking billions of dollars in US aid while elements of its government tolerate turban groups such as the Haqqani network blamed for a September attack on the US embassy in Kabul.

Pakistain says it has made more sacrifices than any other country in the war against militancy, losing about 10,000 members of its military and security forces.

There have been growing questions in Washington about whether US troops should to go after Taliban safe havens in Pakistain, an idea sure to be deeply unpopular in a population already embittered by US drone strikes.

Some Republican candidates argued that the United States has little choice but to nurture relations with Pakistain, citing the fact that it has nuclear arms and that it has to be part of the solution in Afghanistan.

"Pakistain must be a friend of the United States for the reason that Michele (Bachmann) outlined. Pakistain is a nuclear power," said former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, referring to fellow Republican candidate Bachmann.

"It's important for us, with a nuclear power with a very vast number of people in Pakistain who are radicalising, that we keep a solid and stable relationship and work through our difficulties," he added.
Posted by: Fred || 11/14/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Southeast Asia
Indonesian Islamists rally against Obama visit
Hundreds of Indonesian Islamists protested in central Jakarta on Sunday against this week’s visit by President Obama. Around 2500 protesters from Hizbut Tahrir shouted "Reject Obama" and "America is Terrorist" outside the US embassy as they displayed banners with slogans such as "Reject Obama, Reject Capitalism, Reject Imperialism".

The group’s spokesman Mujiyanto said, "We strongly oppose America and Obama coming to Indonesia. Obama is a murderer of our Muslim brothers in Palestine and Afghanistan, a thief of Indonesia’s natural resources, and an imperialist who seeks to take over the world and will do anything for US interests."

Similar protests were also held Sunday in other cities, including Surabaya in East Java and Makassar in South Sulawesi.

Obama will be in Indonesia for the 18-member East Asia Summit at the end of the week. The 10-nation Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) summit, with observing nations including the United States attending, is also taking place this week.

The delegates will discuss major regional issues, such as territorial clashes in the South China Sea and the Myanmar’s bid to take over Indonesia’s role as ASEAN chair in 2014.
Posted by: ryuge || 11/14/2011 05:19 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Israel Forging History to Find Historical Roots
Posted by: Durnham Freebody || 11/14/2011 15:36 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well sir, you're an adherent to a forged religion.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 11/14/2011 16:03 Comments || Top||

#2  A malevolent, heretical, Holocaust-denying dwarf who worships a well in Qom really oughtn't be throwing stones about manufactured history. Why do other Shia tolerate Ahmadinejad and his fellow Hojjatieh cultists, anyways?
Posted by: Mitch H. || 11/14/2011 16:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Of course the Saudis have been plowing under any ability to 'dig for the past'.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/14/2011 18:06 Comments || Top||

#4  It is tempting to sinktrap a post like this, but it seem more constructive to leave it be as a ripe target for 'burg-style mockery.

Please, have at it!
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 11/14/2011 23:22 Comments || Top||


Arab press predicts regional war over Syria
Abdel Bari Atwan, editor of the London-based pan-Arab nationalist newspaper Al-Quds Al-Arabi, raised the prospect of a conflagration in which a Turkish attack on Syria would coincide with an Israeli attack on Syria's closest ally, Iran.
Gee, wouldn't it be interesting if the rift between Israel and Turkey was nothing more than an elaborate game...
Other newspapers renewed claims, first raised in the summer, that Turkey was on the brink of ordering its troops to create a "buffer zone" on its border with Syria as a safe haven for refugees from the crackdown on protest by President Bashar al-Assad. That could trigger a confrontation between the two former friends and allies.
It could trigger an Israeli attack on Iran, or an Israeli quick-march on up the Golan towards Damascus. Or both...
Although the Arab League and certainly western powers including the European Union and Nato have denied suggestions of a military intervention, Syrian opposition leaders are less adamant in their rejection of the use of armed force than hitherto.

Mr Atwan pointed to previous occasions when the Arab League has departed from its tradition of bland consensus -- when it supported the United States and its allies in driving Iraq out of Kuwait, and when it voted to approve the no-fly zone in Libya earlier this yea
Posted by: tipper || 11/14/2011 13:23 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Israel reported 'behind blast' that killed Iran's missile chief
Time's correspondent in Jerusalem, Karl Vick, is reporting that Israel was responsible for the huge blast on Saturday at a Revolutionary Guard missile base, about 35 km west of Tehran. Vick quotes a western intelligence source as saying that Mossad carried out the sabotage attack, adding that more such attacks are to be expected - "There are more bullets in the magazine."

If true, it would be the most damaging blow to date in the covert war against Iran's nuclear weapons programme. It killed 17 Iranian revolutionary guardsmen, including the head of the missile programme, General Hasan Moghaddam, decribed in the Iranian press as "a pioneer" of Iran's missile project [Farsi]. His official job description was head of the 'self-sufficiency department" for munitions. The Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was at the funeral today.
Posted by: tipper || 11/14/2011 08:35 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  western intelligence source

Hm?
Posted by: gr(o)mgoru || 11/14/2011 8:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Yes? No? Maybe?
We'll let you guys try to figure it out...
Posted by: The MOSSAD || 11/14/2011 8:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Wasn't me.
Posted by: dk70 the scantily clad || 11/14/2011 9:53 Comments || Top||

#4  Israel is, way, behind on blasts that kill irreplaceable Iranians.
Posted by: gr(o)mgoru || 11/14/2011 10:13 Comments || Top||

#5  Israel's their Latest and bestest Boogyman, Nothin' to see here, move along.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/14/2011 10:24 Comments || Top||

#6  Our moby is back under a different name?
Posted by: gr(o)mgoru || 11/14/2011 10:33 Comments || Top||

#7  Yes, under several today. Or a likeminded person. Whichever, his/her comments are being deleted.
Posted by: lotp || 11/14/2011 10:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Right, the same Western intell sources that put together the 2007 NIE that essentially said that Iran's nuclear program is strictly for nuclear medical purposes.
Posted by: jack salami || 11/14/2011 11:07 Comments || Top||

#9  Vick is an Anti-Israel apologist. See his wonderfull work for Time Magazine.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 11/14/2011 11:38 Comments || Top||

#10  Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the Jews come, and blow you away...
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/14/2011 13:05 Comments || Top||

#11  Thx Anony. Serious Giggling here...
Posted by: Ackoopmed || 11/14/2011 13:42 Comments || Top||

#12  Filling up my rockets
They go blammo
Smoked by jinns or jews
Posted by: swksvolFF || 11/14/2011 14:41 Comments || Top||

#13  The Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was at the funeral today.

A missed opportunity.
Posted by: Eohippus Phater7165 || 11/14/2011 20:46 Comments || Top||

#14  Them Iranians need to learn they's a cost to moonshining nuclear weapons and missles. I bet they's slow learners.
Posted by: Hank || 11/14/2011 21:52 Comments || Top||

#15  Perhaps to no one's surprise, Iran is repor blaming Israel for the blast.

And Iran may be able to do because Israeli news medias per se are running Artics indic or inferring that Israel's spy agency MOSSAD did the deed.

Youse can just hear Tehran saying, "ISRAEL CANNOT ARGUE THEY DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE THEIR OWN ISRAELI MEDIAS SAYS THEY DID"???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/14/2011 22:09 Comments || Top||


Berri Urges Saudi King to Push for Inter-Syrian Reconciliation
[An Nahar] Speaker Nabih Knobby Berri
Speaker of the Lebanese parliament, a member of AMAL, a not very subtle Hizbullah sock puppet...
on Sunday declared that only King of the Arabians, Sheikh of the Burning Sands #65;bdullah
... Fifth out of 37 sons of King Abdulaziz to ascend to the throne. He is, after his half-brothers Bandar and Musa'id, the third eldest of the living sons of Abdul Aziz ibn Saud. Abdullah's mother is from the Rashid clan, longtime rivals of the Saud. He has 6 sons and 15 daughters and about $20 billion. His youngest son is just seven years old...
bin Abdul Aziz was capable of pressing for a reconciliation between the Syrian regime and its opponents.

"After all that has happened, and given what is happening now, I do not see anyone but you -- other than God -- capable of pushing for a reconciliation, not only among the Syrians, but also among the Arabs," Berri said in a briefly-worded cable he sent to the Saudi monarch.

The Arab League
...an organization of Arabic-speaking states with 22 member countries and four observers. The League tries to achieve Arab consensus on issues, which usually leaves them doing nothing but a bit of grimacing and mustache cursing...
's foreign ministers at a meeting in Cairo on Saturday voted 18-22 to suspend Syria with effect from November 16 over its failure to comply with an agreement to end its crackdown on protests, which according to the United Nations
...Parkinson's Law on an international scale...
have left at 3,500 people dead since mid-March.

Syria, Yemen and Leb voted against the measure while Iraq abstained.

The foreign ministers recommended the withdrawal of Arab envoys from Damascus
...The City of Jasmin is the oldest continuously-inhabited city in the world. It has not always been inhabited by the same set of fascisti...
and agreed on sanctions, while inviting "all currents in the Syrian opposition" to meet at its Cairo headquarters in Cairo to map out a transition.

It said the suspension would remain in place until Hereditary President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad
The Scourge of Hama...
implements the November 2 accord which his government signed, in which Damascus was to release detainees, withdraw the army from urban areas, allow free movement for observers and media, and negotiate with the opposition.

The Arab League resolution won widespread praise from the international community, with U.N. chief the ephemeral Ban Ki-moon
... of whom it can be said to his credit that he is not Kofi Annan...
praising the "strong and courageous" call, while the opposition Syrian National Council said the decision was a "step in the right direction."

In a surprise announcement seen as an attempt to head off the suspension, Syrian state television
... and if you can't believe state television who can you believe?
said on Sunday Damascus had called for an urgent summit of the vaporous Arab League "to address the crisis and its negative consequences in the Arab world."

The report came even as Arab League head Nabil al-Arabi was announcing that the pan-Arab group would be "studying mechanisms it could implement to protect civilians in Syria."

Arabi hailed the League's decision to suspend Syria as "historic," and said it had called for the "international protection" of civilians in the country as it did not have the means to act alone.

The League's decision prompted an outpouring of anger among Assad's supporters who surged in their tens of thousands into central Damascus on Sunday to show their support for the president.

"The Syrian people are filling the squares of the nation and announce their rejection of the Arab League decision," state television
... and if you can't believe state television who can you believe?
said, showing more protests in the commercial hub of Aleppo
...For centuries, Aleppo was Greater Syria's largest city and the Ottoman Empire's third, after Constantinople and Cairo. Although relatively close to Damascus in distance, Aleppans regard Damascenes as country cousins...
and other cities.

Late Saturday, hundreds of angry demonstrators had attacked the embassies of Qatar and Soddy Arabia, which were among the countries that voted to suspend Syria.

Posted by: Fred || 11/14/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria

#1  Reconcilliation will be buttery smooth when Basshir's neck is gravitationally streched by a rope and a tree...
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 11/14/2011 6:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Since Sunnis want to massacre Alawites & Christians, it's unclear what said reconciliation will based on.
Posted by: gr(o)mgoru || 11/14/2011 6:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Well, if they're dead they can't object to policies and must reconcile themselves to what the living choose to do.
Posted by: lotp || 11/14/2011 10:52 Comments || Top||


Hariri: Justification for Shameful Arab League Vote Simply Unacceptable
[An Nahar] Former premier Saad Hariri
Second son of Rafik Hariri, the Leb PM who was assassinated in 2005. He has was prime minister in his own right from 2009 through early 2011. He was born in Riyadh to an Iraqi mother and graduated from Georgetown University. He managed his father's business interests in Riyadh until his father's liquidation. When his father died he inherited a fortune of some $4.1 billion, which won't do him much good if Hizbullah has him bumped off, too.
on Sunday said "the justification attempted today for Leb's shameful vote in the Arab League
...an organization of Arabic-speaking states with 22 member countries and four observers. The League tries to achieve Arab consensus on issues, which usually leaves them doing nothing but a bit of grimacing and mustache cursing...
is simply unacceptable," in a clear reference to the remarks voiced earlier in the day by President Michel Suleiman and Premier Najib Miqati.

"Those claiming to want to keep Leb neutral and shielded from Syria's repercussions have thrown the country in the middle of the storm and on the wrong side -- the side of murder, dictatorship and anti-Arab identity," Hariri said on the social networking website Twitter.

"They will be judged by the Lebanese and the Arabs and by history for their immoral and subservient abandonment of all national and human dignity," he tweeted in English.

"Despite the actions of this shameful government, we will forever remain Lebanese Arabs, democrats and freedom lovers," he added.

Addressing the vaporous Arab League's recent suspension of Syria's membership over its regime's unrelenting crackdown on dissent, Suleiman said Sunday that Leb rejects that any Arab country be isolated.

"Isolation cuts off means for dialogue and no Syrian must feel that he is no longer an Arab," he stated, calling Syrian Hereditary President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad
Supressor of the Damascenes...
to "implement the Arab League initiative."

Leb supports democracy and it does not support the pursuit of political goals through violence, the president added.

Miqati, for his part, said "Leb's position at the Arab League stemmed from historical and geographic considerations that we know our Arab brothers are aware of."

"We have ignored pressures and set stability and averting strife as our goals," Miqati continued.

Posted by: Fred || 11/14/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria

#1  Title reads wrong. It is the Lebanon vote in Arab League he is criticising. Reading the title it seems he is criticising the results of the Arab league decision.
Posted by: Blackbeard Henbane9927 || 11/14/2011 2:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Miqati, for his part, said "Leb's position at the Arab League stemmed from historical and geographic considerations that we know our Arab brothers are aware of."

Mikati addresses his Arab Brothers, forgetting the Arab's hereditary penchant for fratricide...
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 11/14/2011 6:26 Comments || Top||


Gemayel Calls for 'Leaving Behind Resistance Approach'
[An Nahar] Phalange Party
The Kataeb (Phalange) party was founded by Pierre Gemayel in 1936, who modeled the party after Spanish and Italian Fascist parties he had observed as an Olympic athlete during the 1936 Summer Olympics held in Berlin, then Nazi Germany. The movement's uniforms originally included brown shirts and members used the Nazi salute. Despite the party's uniform, its strong sense of nationalism and dedication to a single charismatic leader, the Lebanese Kataeb was not and never became a fascist party nor did it espouse a totalitarian ideology.
leader Amin Gemayel on Sunday called for "leaving behind the approach of resistance" against Israel and "endorsing the approach of defending the Lebanese state."

He noted that armed resistance against Israel lost its purpose "after the 2000 Israeli withdrawal, the deployment of U.N. peacekeepers and the issuance of (U.N. Security Council) Resolution 1701," -- which ended the devastating 2006 war between Israel and Hizbullah.

The Lebanese state must only use the means of diplomacy and its national army to defend the country, Gemayel said.

"The approach of defense strengthens the country's unity, immunizes it diplomatically and safeguards it against any foreign conspiracies," he added.

"Any defense entrusted to a group, a community or a sect would fragment the country instead of uniting it. So it is necessary today for us to leave behind the approach of resistance and endorse the approach of defending the Lebanese state, which preserves Leb and its components," Gemayel stated.

"Any other approach is a factional approach that brings about further divisions and threats at the expense of Leb's illusory sovereignty and independence," he warned.

But Gemayel called for "a serious dialogue on how to transit from the approach of resistance to the approach of defense."

"Leb is in a dire need for a new plan that preserves the country's unity and immunizes it against the foreign threats, while keeping in line with U.N. resolutions," Gemayel added.

"We need stability and we need to reassure the Lebanese people concerning their future," he went on to say.

Posted by: Fred || 11/14/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah


March 14 Mulling Withdrawing Lebanon's Ambassador to Syria
[An Nahar] The March 14
Those are the good guys, insofar as Leb has good guys...
forces are weighing the possibility of withdrawing Leb's Ambassador to Syria, Michel Khoury, in light of the Arab League
...an organization of Arabic-speaking states with 22 member countries and four observers. The League tries to achieve Arab consensus on issues, which usually leaves them doing nothing but a bit of grimacing and mustache cursing...
's decision to suspend Syria's membership at the organization, reported the daily An Nahar on Sunday.

A prominent March 14 source told the daily that the forces are also mulling the possibility of suggesting the expulsion of the Syrian Ambassador to Leb, Ali Abdul Karim Ali.

The source slammed Lebanese Foreign Minister Adnan Mansour's position on the Arab decision saying that it expressed the opinion of the "Hizbullah government."

Furthermore, it said: "Through abstaining from voting on the decision, Iraq respected the sensitivities of its government with Syria and Iran, as well as the sensitivities of its internal scene."

Leb failed to take into consideration the different positions on its internal scene, it added.

"Where are they taking Leb after Mansour's decision not to recognize Arab decisions?" asked the source.

On Saturday, Leb voted against a decision taken by the Arab foreign ministers to suspend Syria's membership in the vaporous Arab League.

18 countries agreed to the decision, while Leb, Yemen and Syria voted against it and Iraq abstained.

Mansour told al-Manar television, hours after the decision was announced, that the "the resolution taken by the Arab League is dangerous, because it was taken against a member state."

"These decisions will not help solve the crisis in Syria but will push it towards a very critical stage," he stressed.

Posted by: Fred || 11/14/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria


Russia Will Continue Arms Sales to Ally Syria
[An Nahar] Russia will continue exporting arms to Syria since no international decision has been made outlawing it, said a top industry official quoted by the news agency Interfax Sunday.

Speaking at the Dubai Air Show, deputy director of the Russian Federal Military and Technical Cooperation Service (FSVTS) Viacheslav Dzirkaln said: "Since there is no restriction on arms deliveries to Syria, Russia respects its contractual obligations with the country."

Russia already said in August that it would continue to send weapons to its longstanding ally, ignoring calls from U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
... sometimes described as The Heroine of Tuzla and at other times as Mrs. Bill, never as Another Chateaubriand ...
to countries still trading with Syria to "get on the right side of history".

International pressure is mounting on Hereditary President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad
Trampler of Homs...
to end the violent repression of dissent in which at least 3,500 people have died, according to U.N. estimates.

Assad's security forces have been cracking down on pro-democracy protests, inspired by the Arab Spring revolutions, since March 15.

Although Russian President Dmitry Medvedev did in October call on the Syrian leader to accept reforms or resign, Russia has nevertheless opposed U.N. sanctions against Syria, insisting on the need for dialogue instead.

Posted by: Fred || 11/14/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria

#1  Until Iran runs out of money?
Posted by: gr(o)mgoru || 11/14/2011 6:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Good, we wouldn't want Syria purchasing arms that might be effective. Having the Russian weapons is a good deal for everyone.

Posted by: crosspatch || 11/14/2011 15:36 Comments || Top||


Iraq: Syria Arab League Suspension Unacceptable
[An Nahar] Iraq on Sunday slammed the Arab League
...an organization of Arabic-speaking states with 22 member countries and four observers. The League tries to achieve Arab consensus on issues, which usually leaves them doing nothing but a bit of grimacing and mustache cursing...
's decision to suspend Syria as unacceptable while also calling on Damascus
...The City of Jasmin is the oldest continuously-inhabited city in the world. It has not always been inhabited by the same set of fascisti...
to open dialogue with the opposition.

"Suspending Syria's membership in the vaporous Arab League came in an unacceptable way," Iraq government front man Ali al-Dabbagh said on Iraqiya television.

Iraq was the only country to abstain from the Saturday vote to suspend Syria's membership in the Arab League over its crackdown on dissent which has left more than 3,500 people dead, according to U.N. figures.

Eighteen countries voted in favor of Syria's suspension from the pan-Arab body while Yemen, Leb and Syria voted against the decision.

"This decision was not taken against other countries that have bigger crisis than the Syrian crisis," said Dabbagh.

Libya is the only other country that has been suspended from the regional bloc since a wave of pro-reform protests swept across the Arab world this year.

"The stability and security of Syria is important to Iraq, and the Iraqi government has called its Syrian counterpart to dialogue with the opposition, and to carry out the requested reforms.

"We want complete freedom for (Syrians), but not in this forced way that moves the Syrian issue ... to internationalization," he said. "This issue is very dangerous."

Posted by: Fred || 11/14/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria

#1  Iranian satrapy.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/14/2011 4:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Ok, so it looks like Iran is replacing Syria with Iraq. The problem is, Iraq is a bit farther from Lebanon.
Posted by: crosspatch || 11/14/2011 15:41 Comments || Top||

#3  what a waste of blood and treasury

i was a bush supporter but he invaded to avenge daddy bush

we should of co'opted saddam, split iraq into 3 states under a weak federal govt and aligned the republican guards against syria. While we built up US forces along the iranian border.

We are going to be blamed regardless -- at least get something out of it.

Now iraq is handed to the iranians
Posted by: dan || 11/14/2011 20:45 Comments || Top||



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