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-Short Attention Span Theater-
JANET JACKSON: BUSH WHITE HOUSE USED MY BOOB TO DISTRACT FROM IRAQ
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN AUG 22, 2004 16:28:04 ET XXXXX
JANET JACKSON: BUSH WHITE HOUSE USED MY BOOB TO DISTRACT FROM IRAQ

Janet Jackson now claims that her "Nipplegate" Super Bowl incident was used by the Bush administration to distract people from the war in Iraq!

Delusions of grandeur, or at least of titular authority.
Janet's now famous boob is an obvious casualty of the ongoing struggle between gravity and surgery, and therefore lacks the potential for political distraction.


Mike Slezak, managing editor of GENRE magazine, tells DRUDGE he has set the provocative Jackson interview for next month's cover.
Aptly named, Michael is...
Developing...
No, it's not. The baggage is 41 years old iirc.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/22/2004 5:31:29 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another theory:

Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/22/2004 17:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Janet Jackson now claims that her "Nipplegate" Super Bowl incident was used by the Bush administration to distract people from the war in Iraq!
Helluva coincidence, Janet. So did you.
Posted by: badanov || 08/22/2004 17:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Lame brain,both of them.
Posted by: crazyhorse || 08/22/2004 19:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Makes perfect sense. How did they do it? Watch out for bad weather in your neighborhood if you have bad thoughts.....
Posted by: Shipman || 08/22/2004 20:02 Comments || Top||

#5  It could have been worse, the nefarious Bush might have used Janet RENO'S boob instead:
Warning: VIEW AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/22/2004 20:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Wow! Everyday the LLL comes out with yet another amazing reason why the Bush cabal is so incredibly brilliant it can see forever down the road and masterfully plan the most devious plots! Truly amazing bunch of guys. All Seeing, All Knowing. Makes the Illuminati look like a buncha posers. Oracles, really. Shit, where do I sign up?
Posted by: .com || 08/22/2004 20:23 Comments || Top||

#7  Re: #5

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH...you...bastard! My eyes! What have you done to my eyes?!!!!!!!
Posted by: Dripping Sarcasm || 08/22/2004 23:39 Comments || Top||

#8  She's right. Afterwards most people were trying to recover their sight....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/23/2004 12:11 Comments || Top||


Coxless Women Prevail in International Row
Diplomat does Britain proud
Sat Aug 21, 8:56 AM ET
LONDON (Reuters) - Olympic rower Cath Bishop has given her budding career as a diplomat a boost after she captured a silver medal in Athens, winning applause from Foreign Secretary Jack Straw. Bishop, who powered Britain to a second place finish with Katherine Grainger in the coxless pairs on Saturday, joined the Foreign Office in 2002 and was granted special leave to compete at the Games. "Everyone at the Foreign Office has been supporting Team GB throughout the Olympics but we are delighted by the success of Foreign Office colleague Cath Bishop and her partner, Katherine Grainger," Straw said in a statement. "My warmest congratulations go to Cath and Katherine on today's silver medal-winning performance."

The British pair sped past boats from Belarus and Canada in the closing stages but could not catch the Romanian champions. Bishop, who is due to take up a post at the embassy in Sarajevo in November, said: "I've achieved one of my dreams in winning this Olympic silver medal today. Next on my list is achieving my dreams to be a diplomat. "Representing the UK must be in my blood."
Posted by: Zenster || 08/22/2004 1:49:16 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I had an unfortunate Olympic experience today. I tuned in to women's lifting and it was the heavy weights. Something about a 370 lb Polish woman with her hair-dyed fire engine red was kind of surreal. It got more unpleasant when I realized that her spandex was tight enough below the waist that I noticed a visible outline of something that I hope was a harness and not pudentum. When it was anounced that she was attempting to complete a snatch.... I turned the channel.
Posted by: Super Hose || 08/22/2004 2:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Which all goes to show that megapixels aren't everything.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/22/2004 2:12 Comments || Top||

#3  lol sh! :)
Posted by: muck4doo || 08/22/2004 23:30 Comments || Top||


Mothra Attacks Athens!
Giant moths trouble archers
The Olympic archers were expecting strong winds and searing heat -- but giant moths?
Where were the two tiny little singing girls?
A plague of thousands of meaty moths, some up to 7.5 cm (3 inches) long, have swarmed over the Panathinaiko Stadium in central Athens, the home of the first modern Games in 1896 and the venue for the archery at this year's Olympics. Top Korean archer Im Dong-hyun was just about to shoot in the teams competition on Saturday, when one irritatingly fluttered in front of him.
The judges should have awarded extra points for nailing the moths. That would have solved the problem then and there.
Games officials said the moths, from the adjacent National Gardens, were a common summer pest and were attracted to the brightness of the white marble of the terracing and the brilliant artificial grass on the archery range. Earlier in the week, winds blew arrows off course, causing top archers to miss the targets altogether, and baking summer temperatures have kept competitors wiping their brows.
To quote Ringo, "It was 'arrowing."
Posted by: Zenster || 08/22/2004 12:44:39 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Arabia
Man's body found floating in sea
The body of a Bahraini man has been found floating in the sea, with one of his legs tied to a block of cement. The man's father identified him.
Foul play is suspected...
The security officials declined to give more details as investigation goes on, but identified him as A. A. A., 26. According to eyewitness the body showed signs of having been beaten. The body was first spotted by two men at sea between the two Muharraq bridges on the Muharraq side. Coastguard officials arrived at the scene immediately when they were reported about the incident at around 7pm. The Public Prosecutor has completed the preliminary investigations and shifted the body to the Sulmaniya Medical Complex morgue.
"Legume! My cape! The game's afoot!"
"Yes, effendi!"
Posted by: Fred || 08/22/2004 1:53:51 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That 'block of cement' must be made out of styrofoam...if he was floating!
Posted by: smn || 08/22/2004 2:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Single block innsufficient for El Bloato.
Posted by: mojo || 08/22/2004 4:42 Comments || Top||

#3  mojo, that was just funny as hell
Posted by: smokeysinse || 08/22/2004 11:01 Comments || Top||

#4  See, no one said: "Of course americans are suspected."
we solve our problems, instead of blaming them on someone else.
Which is the opposite of what happens at the U.S.
Posted by: Gentle || 08/22/2004 11:06 Comments || Top||

#5  When we Yanks take 'em out and sink 'em with concrete overshoes, we leave it to the professionals from Chicago or New York to get it done right the first time. This was obviously an amateur with no experience or understanding of biological decay and the principles of Archimedes.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 08/22/2004 11:31 Comments || Top||

#6  "we solve our problems, instead of blaming them on someone else."

Who knew that Gentle had such a fine sense of humor :-)
Posted by: True German Ally || 08/22/2004 12:29 Comments || Top||

#7  "Hey! Get me outta this &^$&'in end zone!"
Posted by: Jimmy Hoffa || 08/22/2004 14:05 Comments || Top||

#8  Cement blocks--Why do they hate us?
Posted by: Dar || 08/22/2004 14:54 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Observers Rush to Judgment
Posted by: tipper || 08/22/2004 03:48 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  we, the people, need to get together and demand that paper ballots are used in the 2004 election, or it is going to be a huge and terrible mess.
Posted by: B || 08/22/2004 7:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Agree with partner B. Paper ballots are the ticket. I have a few million left over from 1952 stashed if you'd like to see how it's done. Contact one of my semi-beautiful daughters for permission to see the LBJ Library Annex.
Posted by: Landslide Lyndon || 08/22/2004 9:51 Comments || Top||

#3  One surefire way to make a "dimpled chad" is to stack about 10 ballots together and press. The bottom few will be somewhat dimpled.
Posted by: eLarson || 08/22/2004 10:43 Comments || Top||

#4  We have used paper ballots and felt tipped markers for as long as I can remember. Simple cheap and they work!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 08/22/2004 11:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Amateurs!
Posted by: Richard Daley, Sr. || 08/22/2004 14:07 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
4,000 corrupt officials bolt with US$50 billion
Researchers for the Ministry of Commerce estimate that about 4,000 corrupt officials who have fled China in the past two decades transferred US$50 billion out of the country. Many of the big cases involved dirty money being sent to overseas destinations through offshore finance centers. After being presented with the report, Premier Wen Jiabao ordered finance regulators to develop ways to deal with the problem, , reported Shenzhen Daily Tuesday, citing the Monday edition of Beijing's Evening Legal News as the source.

Dr. Mei Xinyu, lead writer of the report, told the newspaper that corrupt officials and some private firms were using companies registered in offshore finance centers, such as the British Virgin Islands and the Bahamas, to transfer capital and illicit gains out of China illegally. The researchers estimate that Chinese companies and individuals have registered tens of thousands of firms in such offshore finance centers. China has the world's fourth most serious problem with capital flight, and the annual figure has been rising at half the speed of its foreign debt growth since 1985, reported Mei. The authorities are planning to set up a joint task force to deal with capital flight, he said.
Posted by: tipper || 08/22/2004 3:44:16 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Kylie's looking good.

Those 4,000 officials probably left because Xinhua doesn't put the cheescake on the domestic version of the news.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/22/2004 12:25 Comments || Top||

#2  I first read this as corrupt officials leaving with $50 billion in *US* money (i.e. the USA got ripped).

I wonder if that will count for our inport/export balance with China, since a lot of it likely ended up here after being washed in the Bahamas.
Posted by: OldSpook || 08/22/2004 15:37 Comments || Top||

#3  After being presented with the report, Premier Wen Jiabao ordered finance regulators to develop ways to deal with the problem ...

Permit me to suggest that the politburo commit mass suicide. This is state sanctioned corruption at its finest. Kleptocracy, Chinese communism is thy name.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/22/2004 19:49 Comments || Top||

#4  OS: I wonder if that will count for our inport/export balance with China, since a lot of it likely ended up here after being washed in the Bahamas.

It's helping to inflate real estate prices in US urban areas - fresh-off-the-boat illegals are stumping up cash to buy inconspicuous residential properties - not the trophy stuff, but the income-producing stuff. And the Chinese government will never see a penny of it. More power to these crooks.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/22/2004 19:55 Comments || Top||


Down Under
'Hurt feelings' win killer $1200
A man jailed for brutally murdering a teenage girl has been awarded $1200 compensation for hurt feelings and humiliation while in prison. Andrew Ronald MacMillan was sentenced to life imprisonment for the murder of Dunedin 17-year-old Jayne McLellan in 1988. This month, the Human Rights Review Tribunal ruled that MacMillan's rights had been breached because the Corrections Department never showed him the entire contents of a letter alleging he had introduced another teenager to perverted sex while on temporary release from jail. The letter referred to a relationship MacMillan, 38, had with a Christchurch 16-year-old when he was completing a rehabilitation programme at a centre in the city in 2000. The tribunal said it was understandable that a prisoner who had been told about a letter containing potentially damaging allegations against him and was then not given access to that letter could suffer anxiety or distress. MacMillan had given evidence that others, including prison wardens, knew what the letter said, and that if he had seen the letter he would have taken all steps to challenge the allegations. The tribunal said there was no reason to doubt his honesty and MacMillan had suffered "injury to his feelings, loss of dignity and humiliation". It warranted a "modest" payment of $1200 for damages.

As part of the findings, the tribunal report outlined how a probation report had contained concerns the relationship MacMillan had formed with the teenager was "potentially dangerous to her in view of MacMillan's past offending history". His life sentence came after Jayne McLellan's battered body was found face down in a stream and MacMillan was found hiding in bushes nearby. She had gone out with him willingly that night after MacMillan, a friend of her brothers, called her at home. She had facial and skull fractures from being struck by a concrete post. She had been raped, cut with a knife and one of her nipples had almost been bitten off. Stones had been put in her windpipe to stop her breathing and a concrete post was lying across the back of her head. Jayne McLellan's mother, Pam Wadsworth, said news of the compensation payment was laughable. "I have ill health and no money," she said. "It is us who have got the life sentence, not him. I haven't seen my daughter for 16 years because of him." Mrs Wadsworth said she understood MacMillan was still in prison after breaching his parole conditions. She had written letters to the Corrections Department and was aware that he had seen them, which she said did not bother her. Last night, the Herald spoke to the teenage girl's father, who had written the letter to the head of Paparoa Prison in June 2000. He said he wrote it as a concerned parent after his daughter had entered into a consensual relationship with MacMillan. The letter said he had found out that MacMillan had introduced his daughter to various forms of perverted sex. When told about the payment, the father said: "I suppose it makes me angry, but nothing surprises me."

The relationship between MacMillan and the teenager developed when he started speaking to her on the telephone, then started seeing her on Friday nights. The Friday-night visits were a breach of his temporary release conditions and as a result he was sent back to jail. MacMillan made several requests to see the letter but he was shown only edited versions. He took his case under the Privacy Act, which provides for access to personal information held by an agency. He said that if had been able to see the letter when he first asked for it, he would have taken all steps available to him to challenge the allegations in it. The tribunal findings said that it was "understandable that for a prisoner to be told of a letter containing potentially damaging allegations about the prisoner but not then given access to the letter, it is likely to engender some injury to feelings". The report said that Corrections did not argue that there was any good reason to refuse MacMillan access to the information. The teenager's father said that eventually his daughter stopped seeing MacMillan and was now a mother.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 08/22/2004 10:14:17 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hold a fundraiser to gather the $1,200 and use it to pay for an inside hit.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/22/2004 22:55 Comments || Top||

#2  This is pathetic. A brutal murder rapist is give "Life" which means He is paroled. Then he breaks the conditions of his parole. Perhaps the rest of the world will get a clue. You kill these bastards, you don't bother trying to get them right in the head. You kill them or you wife, daughter, mother is next.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 08/23/2004 1:10 Comments || Top||


Europe
Neo-Nazis arrested at Hess march
German police have arrested 110 people at a march to commemorate the death of Adolf Hitler's deputy, Rudolf Hess. Some 74 of those detained belonged to a Neo-Nazi movement and were held for displaying banned Nazi symbols and carrying weapons, police said. About 500 people, including the local mayor, held a counter-demonstration against the march in Wunsiedel, the border town where Hess is buried. Hess died in 1987 aged 93 after more than four decades as a prisoner.
Take a close look at the article's photograph. Notice how the Neo-Nazis' banner says, "MÀrtyrer"? The old Arab/Muslim Nazi connection just gets stronger with each passing day.
At least 3,000 right-wing extremists from Germany and abroad turned out for the march.
I'm hoping True German Ally or someone else from Germany can elucidate as to exactly why the officials are prohibited from temporarily detaining every single one of those 3,000 people in order to identify them and begin monitoring their activities. Anyone who supports Nazism effectively advocates genocide, hate speech and anti-Semitism. Aren't all or some of these, legal violations in Germany?
Anti-Nazi protesters, including Mayor Karl-Willi Beck, councillors and local residents, tried to block them with a sit-down protest but police threatened to remove them. "It is our duty to make our voice heard," said Mayor Beck.
All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing.
About 1,000 police were deployed to prevent trouble. There were no reports of violence, and the march - held annually - went ahead. Hess was found hanged in his cell at Spandau Jail in then-West Berlin on 17 August 1987. He was captured in 1941 after parachuting into Scotland in an apparent personal bid to broker peace with Britain.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/22/2004 12:37:07 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  IIRC, Hess was branded a traitor after his flight to England. Now he's a Nazi hero again? Or the anniversary is just a good excuse to go goose stepping in the park...
Posted by: PBMcL || 08/22/2004 0:56 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm with you, PB--fans of Rudolph Hess? Who knew?
Posted by: GreatestJeneration || 08/22/2004 2:15 Comments || Top||

#3  "I’m hoping True German Ally or someone else from Germany can elucidate as to exactly why the officials are prohibited from temporarily detaining every single one of those 3,000 people in order to identify them and begin monitoring their activities. Anyone who supports Nazism effectively advocates genocide, hate speech and anti-Semitism. Aren’t all or some of these, legal violations in Germany?"

Where's TGA when you need him? Unfortunately I don't know much about this but I do know that Germany does make an effort on some level to stamp this stuff out - probably more out of shame than anything else. The problem is, they tend to err on the side of leniency when dealing with it.

"Anti-Nazi protesters, including Mayor Karl-Willi Beck, councillors and local residents, tried to block them with a sit-down protest BUT POLICE THREATENED TO REMOVE THEM."

That I find quite obscene.

Posted by: Bryan || 08/22/2004 7:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Bryan, you can be sure they are doing all that. I bet that about every demonstrator (and they are kind enough to dress accordingly, so they can be easily identified) got checked by police before he entered that little town. The Neo-Nazis are well known, their "touristic" activity well documented and when they demonstrate from time to time we get their current photos. Also it is estimated that one out of ten in the hard core scene is a police informant.

As for the Anti-Nazi-protestors.. police always tries to keep both sides apart, to avoid violent clashes which are hard to sort out and the Neo-Nazis have the bigger boots. That's not obscene, that's just common sense. I doubt that U.S. police would allow to let opposing groups have a go at each other. Not a sign of police sympathy for the skinheads, far from that.

The Neo Nazis use a loophole in German demonstration law that will soon be closed. But to have them out in the open from time to time is actually more helpful than make them go underground. Harder to control.

But if you show a Nazi insignia, hide your face or carry weapons (and police may even consider an umbrella a weapon), down you go.

As for Hess being a Nazi hero... well he's the only one who has a grave that can be visited. Neo-Nazis cant be picky.

Btw you will hardly find a Neo-Nazi website on a German server or with a German domain, they get closed down very fast. German requests to U.S. webhosters or government officials to do the same get regularily turned down though... the "free speech" thing, you know.
Posted by: True German Ally || 08/22/2004 12:25 Comments || Top||

#5  TGA, thank you so much for the clarification. This is exactly the sort of official policy I was looking to find.

As for Hess being a Nazi hero... well he's the only one who has a grave that can be visited. Neo-Nazis cant be picky.

That is hilarious, and the best part is that it's true. I credit the Nazi hunters for having exterminated most of the remaining top brass in ways that prevented them from becoming enshrined.

German requests to U.S. webhosters or government officials to do the same get regularily turned down though... the "free speech" thing, you know.

I find this rather disturbing. Someone I once knew said that when America's founding fathers penned our free speech amendments, they could not possibly have anticipated they would be used to protect the voice of such evil in full measure like the Nazis represent. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. What constitutes hate speech, advocacy of genocide and anti-Semitism in Germany should also stand for the same in America.

TGA, what do you see as inhibiting suppression of Neo-Nazi propaganda here in America? While you cannot be expected to provide us with a detailed dissection of another country's internal policy, I would still enjoy seeing your own perceptions as to why such disgusting filth is given the least latitude here in America when it is more properly censured in Germany.

I doubt liberals have any bleeding hearts for the Neo-Nazis and I can't imagine that conservatives seek to garner votes from the sicko skinhead fringes. Yes, there is an active anti-Semitic component to more than a few hyper-conservative elements, but I find it difficult to think that the conservative core would actively pander to them by maintaining free avenues for the expression of such vile doctrine.

Just curious.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/22/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#6  Zenster: Yes, there is an active anti-Semitic component to more than a few hyper-conservative elements, but I find it difficult to think that the conservative core would actively pander to them by maintaining free avenues for the expression of such vile doctrine.

We've always maintained that people have a right to say whatever they want, short of falsely shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater. The more light is shed on bad ideologies through vigorous debate, the less places these ideologies will have to hide. Suppression of dissent by the government is never a good thing. The marketplace of ideas must remain free, lest one party use it to suppress the ideas of another party.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/22/2004 16:00 Comments || Top||

#7  These neo-Nazi goof balls in Germany are a small fringe group that has been marginalized by mainstream German society. It's fine to be vigilent about them and to watch that they stay marginalized, but to expend so much mental energy hyperventilating about them is odd, I must say.

No one here seems to worry about the gov't sanctioneded ultra religious Muslim call to prayer 5x a day in the public square right under our noses in New Jersey and Michigan and what that signifies because LEFT WINGERS preach tolerance for every religion EXCEPT Christianity, because the latter is associated with evil conservatives.

No one seems concerned about the LEFT WING ACLU and related LEFT WING "civil rights" legal groups arguing on behalf of anti-semetic terrorists held in Gitmo.

No one is worried about our porous southern border that leads to corrupt LEFT WING Latin American countries and even though LEFT WING South America is the home of extremist Muslims who moved there in the 1970's and the Nazis who settled there after WWII.

No one cares that sharia law is in practice in a LEFT WING country right next door to us. In fact, some of you have argued about how "reasonable" it was to allow sharia law to be practised in the West because orthodox Jews are allowed to use their religious laws in the USA.

No worries about Islamofascism enabled by extreme liberalism. But man the small fringe German neo Nazi nutbar group["hyper-conservative elements"]is worrisome, indeed.

Sheesh. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees.
Posted by: rex || 08/22/2004 16:28 Comments || Top||

#8  Zhang Fei, I cherish free speech as much as you do.

Julius Streicher, the editor of "Der Stürmer", was rightfully hanged in Nürnberg. Should he have pleaded not guilty because of "free speech".?

There is no such thing as free speech when it tramples the vital rights of others. You can't stick posters on the trees of your city that call your neighbor vermin that doesn't deserve to live. Why can you run a website that says the same thing about Jews? Not just Nazi websites, Islamist websites do the same.

And yes, Zhang Fei, this compares to falsely shouting FIRE in a theater. We do know today where it can lead.
Posted by: True German Ally || 08/22/2004 16:43 Comments || Top||

#9  The marketplace of ideas must remain free, lest one party use it to suppress the ideas of another party.

Yes, but it also must remain free of murderous, renegade fanatical thugs and their incitement to genocide, racial hatred and violent coercion. None of these are vital components of a free society, they constitute criminal intention and have no place in a civilized world.

"But man the small fringe German neo Nazi nutbar group["hyper-conservative elements"]is worrisome, indeed. Sheesh. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees."

rex, when you're done frothing, I'll be happy to discuss some of your talking points. Your perceived repression of Christian practices in America cannot and do not hold a candle to the true threat of Jihadist global cultural genocide and their Nazi brethern. Liberalism's vein-opening obsession with multiculturalism is definitely of concern, but the focus is and should rightly remain on the real threat at hand.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/22/2004 16:53 Comments || Top||

#10  TGA: Julius Streicher, the editor of "Der Stürmer", was rightfully hanged in Nürnberg. Should he have pleaded not guilty because of "free speech".?

Free speech does not cover enemy combatants or wartime contingencies. I don't think we're currently at war with Nazis. If we ever go to war with Islam, rather than the limited campaigns being fought, you can bet that we'll start suppressing free speech.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/22/2004 17:00 Comments || Top||

#11  Zhang Fei, please check out my post in the "Jewish-run soup kitchen burned in Paris" thread.

I don't think we're currently at war with Nazis.

And I must beg to differ.

More recently, they watched uneasily as Hezbollah's television station, Al-Manar, broadcast the Syrian-produced series "Al-Shatat," ("The Diaspora"), a recounting of Jewish history from 1812 to 1948 in which sinister radical Zionists plot to bake matzo with the blood of Christian children. Everyone from newspaper pundits to the French Broadcasting Authority to the American Embassy in Lebanon voiced their disgust. Meanwhile, Lebanese publishers have issued new editions of "Mein Kampf" and "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," both widely recognized as anti-Jewish propaganda.
EMPHASIS ADDED

It's nearly impossible that you have not seen one of my numerous links to "The Arab/Muslim Nazi Connection." I place it here in case you have not. We are again fighting the Nazis, they merely wear a different uniform turban. The only difference is that Islamists seek global cultural genocide and not just elimination of the Jews.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/22/2004 17:49 Comments || Top||

#12  Now you make sense, #11. Islamofacists are definitely new nazis with turbans. As I said earlier the next staging area for AQ appears to be Latin America and S. America. It's no accident that extremists Muslims found a home and money in S. America in the 1970's.

But I think folks worrying about the growth and nurturing of anti-semetism vis-a-vis small fringe neo Nazi fringe group in Germany are not looking at the real danger.

The real danger is the legitimizing and nurturing of Islam in the West by mis-guided uber tolerant liberals. Islam is easily politicized as we see in the ME. In other words, conservatives are not the enablers of ideology that can be corrupted into anti-semetism. Uber tolerant liberals are the enablers of something that can quickly transform itself to being anti-semetic.
Posted by: rex || 08/22/2004 18:11 Comments || Top||

#13  In other words, conservatives are not the enablers of ideology that can be corrupted into anti-semetism.

Nice try, but with banana oil like the Defense of Marriage Amendment and allowing religious organizations that receive tax dollars to hire only employees who share similar religious views while administering those federally funded programs, the White House is not only blurring the separation of church and state, but skirting dangerously close to the same sort of theocracy our troops are spilling their blood to fight against.

Log Cabin [Republican] members insist more is at stake than merely the fate the Republican Party. Mason told the Chronicle that while he respects the right of religious conservatives to express their concerns, "they are trying to use the Republican Party to bring about a theocracy. I see my work in the Log Cabin not only as defending the party, but defending traditional American values, because I don't think a theocracy was what this country was ever intended to be."

Do you think for one minute that maybe, just maybe, this is part of what has the left, liberals and the ACLU up in arms? Think hard. This is not to say that these same factions don't harbor as equally idiotic goals as the DOMA, merely that before you rant about the liberals not seeing the forest for the trees, you had better d@mn well check your own back yard for subversion of our constitution. Enabling theocracy, yes even Christian theocracy, can lead to anti-Semitism just as surely as Islamist terrorism. Merely examine all of the state sanctioned Christian religion in Europe and their own extensive history of anti-Semitism if you have any doubts.

Posted by: Zenster || 08/22/2004 18:41 Comments || Top||

#14  Leave him alone! I meant to vote for Pat!
Posted by: Palm Beach Babe || 08/22/2004 19:07 Comments || Top||

#15  you had better d@mn well check your own back yard for subversion of our constitution. Enabling theocracy, yes even Christian theocracy, can lead to anti-Semitism just as surely as Islamist terrorism
Christianity does not have as one of its tenets eliminate the Jews off this planet. If you can't see the difference of attitudes to other religions per Islam and per Christianity, you have problems. I'd hazard a guess that most of the soldiers who defeated the Nazis and rescued the Jews were Christians and not Muslims or aethists so don't bother to imply that Hitler was a Christian and therefore all Christians are potential Hitlers.

Merely examine all of the state sanctioned Christian religion in Europe and their own extensive history of anti-Semitism if you have any doubts. Christianity is an old religion. It's history is not an ode to perfection. But neither is Judaism or Hinduism. Do you think that Jews are the only victims in human history. Get beyond your ego and look beyond your naval. Different groups have been persecuted. I always use the example of 8-10 million Christian/Greek Orthodox Ukrainian farmers that Stalin "snuffed" in 2 short years. Where was the outcry? Did the Jews make a fuss at the time to speak out about the Russian atrocities against the Ukrainians? While you are wading in self pity, think about the deafening silence of your own group of "perfect ancestors" when other people were victims of genocide.

The single greatest threat to Jews today is radical Islam as well as apathy from aetheists, not Christianity. I'm sorry you cannot see that fact.
Posted by: rex || 08/23/2004 2:05 Comments || Top||

#16  Christianity does not have as one of its tenets eliminate the Jews off this planet.

It sure as hell used to and, even recently, was perverted towards that end, as in the NAZIS. Theocracy will always guarantee the death of many for the promotion of a few.

... so don't bother to imply that Hitler was a Christian and therefore all Christians are potential Hitlers.

Stick your straw man argument where the sun doesn't shine.

Get beyond your ego and look beyond your naval.

Let me go outside and check the dock in my backyard. Nope, no navy. Now why don't you stop your dishonest navel gazing and pose some valid rebuttals for a change.

While you are wading in self pity, think about the deafening silence of your own group of "perfect ancestors" when other people were victims of genocide.

Guess what, you impaired cretin? I'm not Jewish. I just happen to believe that any state sanctioning of religion is a one-way ticket to hell.

The single greatest threat to Jews today is radical Islam as well as apathy from aetheists ...

Wise up, you clueless mouth breather. Athiests are not a major contributing factor. It's religious loons of all stripes that keep piling up the mountains of corpses. You've already proven your credentials (or lack thereof) over in the "This Isn't War" thread. Please take a flying leap at your earliest convenience.

Warmest Personal Regards,

Zenster
Posted by: Zenster || 08/23/2004 12:53 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Another glimpse into Kerry's character (or lack of)
Posted by: Lurks Often || 08/22/2004 21:15 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ahh, this is just another one of those extreme rightwing publications shilling for Bush.
Posted by: Matt || 08/22/2004 21:32 Comments || Top||

#2  The Village Voice? Sorry, Matt, but I'm not in the mood (after reading this article, anyway) and can't tell if you're being snarky -- or what.

From the article, a Kerry quote about those who *dared* oppose his resolution to lift the trade embargo against Vietnam, his pet project:

"This process," he declaimed, "has been led by a certain number of charlatans and exploiters, and we should not allow fiction to cloud what we are trying to do here."

I would say this sums up his election bid and the agenda of the Donks. I am so angry that I do not know what I want to say about the POW's. Regards Kerry, however, it's simple: He's a traitor, in every sense of the word. I am boggled that it appears he has a good chance of winning.

If he's elected, I will not be surprised if someone decides to assassinate him. That is not my choice of how to deal with this unequalled disingenuous plot to subvert the United States of America by putting into office our very own Manchurian Candidate for Socialism and Leftist Lunacy, but I'm sure there are unhinged people out there who will simply lose it.

I fear for my country.
Posted by: .com || 08/22/2004 21:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Chill Com 'ol buddy. No doubt Matt was just making a little joke.

Right Matt?

Posted by: Wuzzalib || 08/22/2004 22:24 Comments || Top||

#4  My first inclination is to think that is something seriously wrong with Kerry's intellect. Theoretically, he shoud have expected his detractors to look for evidence of his being soft of the Vietnamese government. Realistically, he did this stuff while Clinton was coddling every leftist government on the face of the Earth eventhough Willy was a communist tool during the 70's as well. Expecting to be treated like Clinton may be an Achilles heal for Dems for he near future.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/01/2004 4:08 Comments || Top||


A continent divided: Half of Europe is leaning to Kerry. But it's the wrong half
...Take the question of who supports Kerry. Spain's Zapatero (who holds office partly by courtesy of Osama bin Laden) is the only head of government who has openly declared for Kerry. But France's Chirac and Germany's Gerhard Schroeder are silently in Kerry's corner. And most Scandinavian and socialist leaders join them there.

Britain's Tony Blair and Italy's Silvio Berlusconi, however, have a clear interest in Bush's re-election. His defeat would weaken them at home. And their support for Bush is shared by some leaders in countries like Poland, Hungary, Latvia and even Holland who have taken major political risks to put troops in Iraq.

Kerry is oblivious to all this. In particular, he seems not to realize that he and his fellow Democrats have been repeatedly insulting the 15 European countries in the U.S.-led Iraq coalition. Although they include some of the leading military powers in the EU and NATO, they were dismissed at the Boston convention as "countries you can buy on eBay." That kind of thing rankles at least as much as Donald Rumsfeld's "Old Europe" -- and it annoys America's friends rather than its rivals...
Posted by: tipper || 08/22/2004 03:15 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good article:
"To judge from how often he talks about Europe, however, Kerry thinks that European support is an electoral bonus as well as a diplomatic one. His theory seems to be that if he is elected, he can rely on the European "allies" to help the U.S. in Iraq and elsewhere -- and that the American people, knowing this, will vote for him and multilateralism.

But his theory rests on the unstated and shaky assumption that "Europe" equals France and Germany. To be fair, "Europe" did mean France and Germany until yesterday.

*snip* there are several "European" views on most issues.

Britain's Tony Blair and Italy's Silvio Berlusconi, however, have a clear interest in Bush's re-election. His defeat would weaken them at home. And their support for Bush is shared by some leaders in countries like Poland, Hungary, Latvia and even Holland who have taken major political risks to put troops in Iraq.

Kerry is oblivious to all this. In particular, he seems not to realize that he and his fellow Democrats have been repeatedly insulting the 15 European countries in the U.S.-led Iraq coalition. Although they include some of the leading military powers in the EU and NATO, they were dismissed at the Boston convention as "countries you can buy on eBay." That kind of thing rankles at least as much as Donald Rumsfeld's "Old Europe" -- and it annoys America's friends rather than its rivals."
Posted by: B || 08/22/2004 7:48 Comments || Top||

#2  sorry, I know rantburgers are a busy group. I should have shortened the above article to this:

"Kerry is oblivious.."
Posted by: B || 08/22/2004 7:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Oblivious? I wonder. Are Kerry and his fellow Democrats complete, utter idiots? Or are they cynical manipulators who figure that they can say and do just about anything, no matter how asinine ad outrageous, and the MSM will obediently refrain from criticising them?

Either way, if I were the leader of any of the countries that are part of what the Dems called a "fraudulent coalition" and a "coalition of the bribed and coerced," I don't think I'd be rooting for Kerry.
Posted by: Dave D. || 08/22/2004 9:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Kerry thinks he is a big internationalist because he speaks French. He goes on and on about France and Germany etc as allies because he is looking for votes from the LLL. If he thought he could get votes by pandering to the small emerging European nations, he would do so. He weathervanes with the winds.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 08/22/2004 11:49 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Rebel Attack in Papua
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Cleric Denies Putting Kiss of Death on Creativity
"No, no! Certainly not!"
Popular Muslim preacher Abdullah Gymnastiar denies that his successful campaign to have a locally made teen romance movie withdrawn from cinemas means that he opposes artistic creativity. "Oh no, I like creative people, as long as they truly defend the self-esteem of the nation. Actually I challenge [people], come on - be creative," he was quoted as saying Sunday by detikcom online news portal.
"Just watch yerself, buddy!"
The Film Censorship Board (LSF) on August 18 banned Buruan Cium Gue (Hurry Up & Kiss Me) after conservative preachers such as Gymnastiar protested that its title would encourage young people to commit adultery.
You don't mean like touching lips, do you? Eeeewwww! You can get pregnant doing that!
LSF director Titie Said claimed the board had received hundreds of letters from people complaining that the movie was not in line with society's values. The film therefore had to be withdrawn because it could have caused social unrest, she added.
Seething, people exploding with anger, that sort of thing...
The LSF had originally passed the low-budget movie earlier this month. Although reviewers dismissed the movie as a uninspiring piece of clichéd teenage pap, it had been a hit among audiences during its two-week run, partly due to its catchy title and a widespread billboard advertising campaign. But the billboards also caught the attention of Muslim clerics, who felt the advertisements were tantamount to a promotion of promiscuity. "The title clearly leads people to commit adultery. Kissing is the root of adultery," Gymnastiar told Gatra magazine.
And there you have it...
He admitted he had not even seen the film, but said the title was a threat to the morality of Indonesia's younger generation. "People say to me, once you've kissed, your hands will go all over the place. 'Hurry Up & Kiss Me' means 'Hurry Up and Doink Me Hide the Baloney Go for a Meat Ride Have Illicit Sex with Me'," he was quoted as saying by the Warta Kota daily.
Posted by: || 08/22/2004 13:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Kissing is the root of Adultery? Wait a second... are sins transitive? Is money the root of all kissing? Thy shall not kiss thy neighbors ass? Religon is so hard. Remember god wants a good snuggle.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/22/2004 18:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Abdullah Gymnastiar: I declare this entire written article to be haram. Its title alone mentions the forbidden sexual activity of kissing and thereby may lead its readers into having licentious, libidinous, lascivious and lustful thoughts. All of which constitute fun makrouh. Some might call such trivial petting mushtabahat but I say it is not in the least mashbooh. Such pleasure vile voluptuousness is makrouh tahrimi if not, in fact, makrouh tanzihi.

Why, now that I think of it, even my own name contains the word "gymnast," which brings to mind groups of scantily clad young women contorting themselves in a lewd and revealing fashion. Please be so kind as to excuse me while I go martyr myself for such uncleanliness.
Posted by: Zenster || 08/22/2004 19:07 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
16 year old Iranian girl hanged in public for her "sharp tongue"
Via LGF
On Sunday August 15, 2004, a 16 year old girl by the name of Atefe Rajabi, daughter of Ghassem Rajabi, was executed in the town of Neka, located in the province of Mazandaran, for "engaging in acts incompatible with chastity". The execution was carried out by the order of Neka's "judicial administrator" and was approved by both the Supreme Court of the Islamic Republic and the chief of the nation's "judiciary branch."
Although according to her birth certificate she was only 16 years old, the local court falsely claimed that she was 22.
Three months ago, during her appearance before the local court, fiercely angry the young girl hurled insults at the local judge, Haji Reza, who is also the chief judicial administrator of the city, and it is said as another expression of protest took off some of her clothes in the courtroom. This act by the young girl made the administrator so furious that he evaluated her file personally and in less than three months received a go-ahead from the Islamic Republic's Supreme Court for her execution. The animosity and anger of Haji Reza was so strong that he personally put the rope around the girl's delicate neck and personally gave the signal to the crane operator, by raising his hand, to begin pulling the rope.
You imagine what kind of hanging that is
It may be noted that although according to the Islamic Republic's own penal laws the presence of an attorney for the defense [is supposed to be] mandatory, regardless of the defendant's ability to afford one, nevertheless the girl remained without an attorney. Her unfortunate father, while tears poured from his eyes, went about the city beseeching the townspeople for money to hire an attorney who in the least would provide his daughter with a line of defense.
I suppose the devote townspeople didn't have a dime to spare..."
The young girl was buried the same day after her execution but during that same night her corpse was disinterred by unknown individuals and robbed. The theft remains unexplained and the Rajabi family has filed a complaint.
Maybe some post mortem rape?
The 16 year old girl's male companion, who had been arrested as well, received 100 lashes and, after the Islamic punishment was carried out, released.

Another report has this:
Ateqeh personally defended herself. She told the religious judge, Haji Rezaii, that he should punish the main perpetrators of moral corruption not the victims.
The judge personally pursued Ateqeh's death sentence, beyond all normal procedures and finally gained the approval of the Supreme Court. After her execution Rezai said her punishment was not execution but he had her executed for her "sharp tongue".

Posted by: True German Ally || 08/22/2004 4:13:27 PM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I've already quoted that in a comment but I thought it shouldn't get buried there.

Notice that the Islamic Republic's Supreme Court approved this, so its not a local thing. This is Sharia at work.

When Iran is finally liberated all these judges should hang... the same way.
Posted by: True German Ally || 08/22/2004 16:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Fine.
If they won't post my article, I'll rewrite it:


Islam & Honor Killings:

Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and an Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:

“There is no such concept in Islam that is called “honor killing”. Islam holds every soul in high esteem and does not allow any transgression upon it. It does not allow people to take the law in their own hands and administer justice, because doing so will be leading to chaos and lawlessness. Therefore, based on this, Islam does not permit such killings.

First of all, in order to sanction killing, it must be through a binding verdict issued by an authoritative law court. Individuals themselves have no authority either to judge cases or pass judgments. Therefore, a Muslim should not sanction such killing because doing so will be leading to the rule of the law of the jungle. A civilized society cannot be run by such laws.”

Shedding more light on it, Sheikh `Atiyyah Saqr, former head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, states:

“Like all other religions, Islam strictly prohibits murder and killing without legal justification. Allah, Most High, says, “Whoso slayeth a believer of set purpose, his reward is Hell for ever. Allah is wroth against him and He hath cursed him and prepared for him an awful doom.” (An-Nisa’: 93)

The so-called “honor killing” is based on ignorance and disregard of morals and laws, which cannot be abolished except by disciplinary punishments.

It goes without saying that people are not entitled to take the law in their own hands, for it’s the responsibility of the Muslim State and its concerned bodies to maintain peace, security, etc., and to prevent chaos and disorder from creeping into the Muslim society.”

Moreover, the eminent Muslim scholar, Sheikh Muhammad Al-Hanooti, member of the North American Fiqh Council, adds:

“In Islam, there is no place for unjustifiable killing. Even in case of capital punishment, only the government can apply the law through the judicial procedures. No one has the authority to execute the law other than the officers who are in charge.

Honor killing is a wrong cultural tradition. It is unjust and inhumane action. The murderer of that type deserves punishment.”

Posted by: Gentle || 08/22/2004 16:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Gentle: Law is meaningless if it is violated by those in authority without condemnation *and* punishment. In the very few places in the world where "civilized" Sharia is practiced, it is laughable even compared to Soviet or Chinese Law, and it is chaos compared to Roman, Napoleonic, or that most liberal of Law, Common Law.
It is not built of reason, or compassion, though it claims both. It is laced with cruel judgement for the weak and no punishment at all for the strong. As a civil law, it is corrupt beyond measure. It is beyond redemption.
And that is when it is practiced in western countries, under secular inhibitions, and in cultures far more liberal than most. In the greatest part of the world it is an abomination. A tool to justify the worst violations and perversions imaginable. It is the handmaiden to genocide, racism, sexism, homocide, and every cruelty that should have been forgotten a thousand years ago. No animal should be forced to live under such torment, and in the west, no one would want an animal to live that way. It is a sick and diseased imagining, and beyond grace. No human being should trust to a god that would visit such horror on his followers, and if Allah exists, then surely he must reserve his darkest, hottest and most painful Hell for those who promulgate such horrors on the innocent.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/22/2004 16:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Gentle, the case I posted above was not about honor killings. This is Sharia and Iranian Supreme Court sanctioned barbaric murder.
I don't care what some "liberal" Islamic scholar in Canada says, I care about what is actually DONE in Sharia countries.
Posted by: True German Ally || 08/22/2004 16:54 Comments || Top||

#5  The actions of this girl in court suggest to me that she may have been mentally ill. If that is true this is doubly horrible.

Gentle (you dipshit) - you can quote chapter and verse all day long blah, blah, blah but the fact remains that a girl, not yet an adult, was brutally hanged by a religious man egomaniacal madman simply because of her smart mouth.

Should I apply the same measure of guilt to you, and we lived in a county where the punishment for said smartassery was death - How long do you think you would last?

I however don't pretend I am God.



Posted by: Doc8404 || 08/22/2004 18:52 Comments || Top||

#6  No offense, but if this judge lives out the year, her father either has no balls, or doesn't think of her daughter as fully human.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 08/22/2004 19:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Gentle, thanks for the theory, but we base our opinions on the reality. The reality is that, for whatever reason, an Iranian local "judicial administrator" can personally execute a 16-year-old girl for "contempt of court." Nuff said.
Posted by: Tom || 08/22/2004 20:22 Comments || Top||

#8  There is no such concept in Islam that is called “honor killing”.

And yet, whenever someone tries to ban it, the locals whine about religion.

See Jordan for an example. A bill came before the legislature to make it a crime. The bill was defeated because it would have been "un-Islamic".

The problem, Gentle, is this phrase:

"Like all other religions, Islam strictly prohibits murder and killing without legal justification."

They get legal justification: The "crime" is generally cast to be adultery, even if the poor girl was raped. And, since Sharia requires the testimony of two women to match the testimony of one man, all the guy has to do is say, "Yep, she wanted it!"

You keep spinning these fantasies about Islam, ignoring the reality. Stop insulting us, please, and start looking at the reality.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/22/2004 20:39 Comments || Top||

#9  slam has to be some sort of mental disorder. It does not matter a whit what some dufus mullah SAYS...it's the actions.

This is just another example of what the entire world will be subjected to if we fail to irradicate the radical, islamo-cockroaches.
Posted by: anymouse || 08/22/2004 20:50 Comments || Top||

#10  Islam isn't a religion. It's a death cult that must be completely, totally, and utterly exterminated from the face of the planet. It is not a religion of peace, it is not a religion of civilization. It is the cult of carrion feeders and should be shown no mercy or compassion. Only death.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 08/22/2004 21:42 Comments || Top||



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