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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Masked Halloween Robber Loses
A man in a skeleton mask was severely injured in a fight with the people he tried to rob at an apartment complex in Sunnyslope on Friday night, police said.

Police said the masked man, whom they identified as Justin Pare, 33, entered an apartment near Seventh Avenue and Hatcher Road through a kitchen window. The resident of the apartment thought it was a joke until the masked man took out a silver revolver and demanded money, said Sgt. Andy Hill, spokesman for the Phoenix Police Department.

The resident refused and ran out of his apartment into the courtyard area where other neighbors were having a party, and police said the would-be robber chased the victim and then demanded money from the neighbors at the party. The robber then pistol-whipped one of the neighbors, Hill said.

Police said the man who had been chased from his apartment returned with a baseball bat and struck the suspect, causing him to drop two guns. The neighbors then started beating the robber with the bat and a two-by-four, Hill said.
Now that's a party!
The robber escaped and fled in a 2007 Dodge Nitro. Police found Pare in the car in a parking lot in the 12000 block of North 21st Avenue. Pare had a severe head injury and broken nose and was hospitalized, according to police.

Three people sustained minor injuries in the scuffle.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/01/2009 09:01 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Piñata!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/01/2009 9:53 Comments || Top||

#2  A day early for El Día de los Muertos celebrations, but why not just get a head start on it.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/01/2009 10:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Pare had a severe head injury

Punny fellow you are, Procopi
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/01/2009 10:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Meh, that's why the Rodney King costume was so cheep.
Posted by: .5mt || 11/01/2009 13:10 Comments || Top||


Sharpton's ex & kid in cop rage
The rabble-rousing rev should give his daughter a sermon about road rage.

The Rev. Al Sharpton's ex-wife and daughter were arrested after berating two Harlem cops who had pulled them over for allegedly running a red light to get around their slow-moving, unmarked cruiser, sources told The Post.

Kathy Jordan, 53, and her daughter, Dominique Sharpton, 23, were handcuffed Friday night and hauled to a precinct, where the raging reverend's daughter tried to get off the hook by citing her family ties, the sources said. They were issued desk-appearance tickets and released.

The road-rage incident began around 7:30 p.m. on West 110th Street and Eighth Avenue when Dominique became frustrated as she drove behind the crawling police vehicle, the sources said.

Sharpton honked her horn and tailgated the vehicle from the NYPD's Housing Bureau before finally losing her cool.

She furiously swerved across the double yellow line and sped through a red light to get past the cop car, police said.

The officers pulled her over, and she and her mother became belligerent and argumentative, the sources said.

They were slapped in handcuffs and thrown in the cruiser.

Dominique was charged with resisting arrest and issued summonses for crossing the double yellow line and running the light.

Jordan was charged with resisting arrest and obstructing governmental administration.

Sources added that Dominique dropped her dad's famous name at the stationhouse before being released.

Sharpton's lawyer, Michael Hardy, said the reverend was stunned by the way the NYPD handled the incident.

"How what was apparently a minor traffic dispute ended up with two arrests with desk-appearance tickets is highly questionable and unusual," he said. "We will pursue all answers in this matter."

Jordan and her eldest daughter live in Brooklyn. Someone who answered the door at their home declined to comment and asked a reporter to "leave the premises," adding, "We don't talk to the press here."

Jordan, a former backup singer for James Brown, was married to the longtime civil-rights activist Sharpton for 23 years before their split in 2004.
Posted by: tipper || 11/01/2009 08:56 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  hauled to a precinct, where the raging reverend's daughter tried to get off the hook by citing her family ties

Please say the video will be released.
Posted by: ed || 11/01/2009 9:10 Comments || Top||

#2  "You don't know who I am, do you?" Where have we heard that one before. Think they're working for a beer at the White House?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/01/2009 10:04 Comments || Top||

#3  "Train up a child in the way he should go and he will not depart from it."
Solomon, King of IS.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2009 12:55 Comments || Top||


Muslim bride stabs hubby for 'infidel'ity:
A devout Muslim woman, furious at her new husband for trying to make her drink booze, eat pork and wear revealing clothes, allegedly tried to slaughter him in his sleep.

Staten Island prosecutors said Rabia Sarwar, 37, slashed the neck of hubby Sheikh Naseem at 3 a.m. Wednesday while screaming, "It's time for you to die!"

"She was sitting on top of my chest, and she was cutting my neck. She was ranting, 'I have tried to take my life three or four times before. I have no regard for my life. It's time for you to die,' " he said.

Naseem, a 41-year-old high-school math teacher who goes by the nickname "Eddie," managed to wrest the knife away from his wife -- whom he wed five months ago in an arranged marriage. He pleaded for her to consider his two kids from a previous marriage.

"She just screamed, 'They are going to be orphans now!' " he said. "She kept on coming after me with the knife, and I grabbed it and broke it into two pieces and ran out of the room."

He then realized that Sarwar had hidden all the phones, so he pounded on a neighbor's door for help.

Police were called to the scene in New Brighton and arrested Sarwar.

Naseem suffered only surface wounds to his neck, face and hands.

Naseem -- who was born in Pakistan but is half-Norwegian and practices the Unitarian faith -- said he moved to the United States more than 20 years ago and quickly adapted to American culture, drinking casually and developing a taste for barbecued ribs.

He twice married non-Pakistani women.

When those marriages failed, he wed Sarwar -- who also hails from Pakistan -- five months ago through nuptials arranged by relatives in New Jersey.

Although Sarwar has lived in the United States for more than a decade, Naseem said, "she had never been exposed to American culture."

At first, everything seemed fine, he said.

"She was getting adjusted. She was trying to live the way I live, but on the same token, she tells her parents, 'I went out drinking with him,' and her mother started making derogatory statements about me," he said. "There was no gun pointed to her head to do these things.

"She even had a favorite drink -- black Russians."

Sarwar's lawyer, Joe Licitra, admitted his client had been hospitalized in the past for depression, but insisted she had been "emotionally abused."

"He got her to drink alcohol, eat pork and change her clothes. She wanted to dress traditionally. I think he was a cruel person who preyed on her," he said.

In her statement to police, Sarwar said she was under the impression Naseem was a Muslim. She was stunned to find he wasn't, and that his favorite book was Salman Rushdie's "The Satanic Verses" -- the book that led the Ayatollah Khomeini to put out a contract for the author's murder.

She allegedly told cops about her knife attack: "I tried my best to cut his throat."

Sarwar -- who appeared in court wearing a velour tracksuit and flip-flops but later put on a headscarf -- was charged with attempted murder, assault and criminal possession of a weapon, according to DA Daniel Donovan. She was released on $25,000 bail.

Naseem said he would immediately file for divorce but did not think she should be in jail.

"I think she's a lunatic and she should be in a mental hospital," he said. "I want the best for her in her life. I hope she gets herself corrected."
Posted by: tipper || 11/01/2009 08:33 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wasn't this the plot for the hit comedy Pakistani Odd Couple? Anyway, what about the pole dancing? That's what I want to know.
Posted by: ed || 11/01/2009 9:00 Comments || Top||

#2  Nah. More like Pakistani War of the Roses.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/01/2009 18:30 Comments || Top||

#3  and developing a taste for barbecued ribs.


BBQ ribs are good... I had some just today!
Posted by: BigEd || 11/01/2009 22:48 Comments || Top||

#4  He then realized that Sarwar had hidden all the phones

Nice touch.
Posted by: gorb || 11/01/2009 23:15 Comments || Top||


AZ Man Accused Of Running Down Daughter Arrested In Atlanta
Authorities said Friday that an Iraqi man, accused of running down his daughter in Arizona because she had become "too Westernized," has been taken into custody in Atlanta, Georgia. U.S. Marshals arrested Faleh Hassan Almaleki, 48, in Atlanta, according to spokesman James Ergas.

Police in Peoria, Arizona, say Almaleki struck his 20-year-old daughter, Noor Faleh Almaleki, and her friend Amal Edan Khalaf with the Jeep Laredo he was driving in a parking lot in Peoria on October 20. After the incident, Almaleki drove to Mexico, abandoning his vehicle in Nogales. He then made his way to Mexico City and boarded a plane to London, England. British authorities denied him entry into the country, and he was put on a plane back to the United States, police said.

Authorities arrested him late Thursday afternoon when he arrived at Atlanta's airport, police said, and he is awaiting extradition to Arizona.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/01/2009 01:05 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I hope the people involved in the Rifqa Barry case are paying attention.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 11/01/2009 1:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Police in Peoria, Arizona, say Almaleki struck his 20-year-old daughter, Noor Faleh Almaleki, and her friend Amal Edan Khalaf with the Jeep Laredo he was driving

A Jeep Laredo!
Surely if he is going to commit an honor crime, the least he could have used was a hybrid. Where is his sensitivity for the environment. Throw the book at him.
Posted by: tipper || 11/01/2009 8:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Update: He has been returned to Arizona, and since Peoria is in Maricopa County, he is now under the tender care of Sheriff Joe Arpaio. This means pink underwear, prison striped uniform, trail mix and bologna to eat, and he gets to live in a tent, sort of like a Bedouin.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/01/2009 9:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Bubba sez: Don't shave that beard, Alma
Posted by: 2Sealys || 11/01/2009 9:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Bologna contains pork. Poor Mr. Almaleki is going to be very unhappy for the rest of his life.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2009 10:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Now, now, tw - there is a beef bologna.

I'm sure Sheriff Joe will buy it special, just for Mr. Almaleki.

Sheriff Joe being so culturally sensative and all. :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/01/2009 10:51 Comments || Top||

#7  The pure beef stuff is more expensive, Barbara dear. Sheriff Joe's budget has to stretch further these days, just like everyone else's, so the prisoners are just going to have to make do... again, just like everyone else. Of course, there is the option of not ingesting that which is haram, forbidden, but that leads to another kind of unhappiness.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2009 16:48 Comments || Top||

#8  means pink underwear, prison striped uniform, trail mix and bologna to eat, and he gets to live in a tent, sort of like a Bedouin.

More likely, since he's high-profile, he'll be downtown or in one of the other jails.

Of course there's always the possibility he'll fall over a railing.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/01/2009 20:53 Comments || Top||

#9  Bubba sez: Don't shave that beard, Alma

After "sleeping on it" for a night, Bubba sez shave the beard because it tickles too much.
Posted by: gorb || 11/01/2009 23:18 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Healthy Heart Advice Doesn't Work, But You Should Do It Anyway, Because
A major medical paper on primary heart disease prevention admitted that cardiovascular disease risk factors have proven useless for predicting heart disease among our population and that reducing risks factors doesn't translate into reduced clinical disease or fewer premature deaths.

But the solutions to this conundrum were the most unbelievable examples of ad-hoc reasoning.

The paper was the American Heart Association's new Guidelines for Cardiovascular Disease Prevention in Women. It differed from its 2004 Guidelines in one significant way: women previously classified as low or intermediate risk are now all labeled as "at risk" and targeted for intervention. They arrived at this plan because virtually all heart disease occurs in women without "risk factors" and of low risk.

Instead of acknowledging what the medical literature has shown for decades -- that these risk factors themselves are problematic and that relying on them to predict who will succumb to disease or premature death is insupportable -- they took a unique twist.

The guidelines previously developed for women of "high risk" -- "preventive" measures, including "heart-healthy" diets, physical activity, weight management; and pharmaceuticals to address health indices considered risk factors -- have been made universal to all women. Their reasoning was that all women have a "high" lifetime risk for cardiovascular disease...
Tofu and bean sprouts won't help you to live longer, but you should eat them anyway, because they are less pleasurable.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/01/2009 17:18 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Who cares if it doesn't work, It's good for business. More work for doctors and all the rest of the healthcare industry. With the big plus, that you are unlikely to get sued for recommending something that doesn't work.

Posted by: phil_b || 11/01/2009 18:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, yeah, because we are all "high risk" for dying sometime in the next 100 years or so....
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 11/01/2009 20:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Ultimately, all deaths can be called "heart failure", right?
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 11/01/2009 22:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Basically, yes. No one seems to die of old age anymore. The dumb plumb wore out isn't an option on the certificate. However, its great when applying for grant monies to show all the cardiac arrests listed for deaths in the population.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/01/2009 22:12 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Mexican farm leader, 14 others killed
The leader of a Mexican farmworkers' organization and 14 other people were killed in a mass shooting in the northern Mexico state of Sonora, an official said Saturday.

Sonora prosecutors' spokesman Jose Larrinaga said the victims include farm leader Margarito Montes, 10 other men, one woman and three minors. Most were believed to be Montes' relatives or employees.

Larrinaga said the victims' bullet-ridden bodies were found on a roadside near a farm Friday. The killers apparently used assault rifles, the sort of weapon favored by Mexico's drug gangs, but Larrinaga said the motive in the attack was still under investigation.

The killings occurred in a rural area of the state, near the border with Sinaloa, the home state of some the country's most powerful drug lords.

Montes was the leader of the General Popular Union of Workers and Farmers, which claims tens of thousands of members, mostly in southern Mexico. Local news media reported that Montes had led peasant and squatters' movements involved in land seizures and that his group has sometimes had violent clashes with rival claimants to land.

Montes' group is an affiliate of the nationwide Permanent Agrarian Congress, which said Montes was ambushed by a gang of gunmen near his home.

It issued a statement calling his killing "a cowardly assassination," and suggested it could have been related to land disputes.

The group said it "regrets .... that in the 21st-century, land disputes are still being settled with gunfire" and demanded authorities catch and punish the killers.

In the southern state of Guerrero on Saturday, state police reported assailants tossed two grenades at a police guard station at a toll booth in the resort of Acapulco.

Assailants also fired assault rifles and tossed two grenades at a police station in the nearby town of Tecpan de Galeana. Some damage but no injuries were reported in the attacks.

State police also reported finding nine banners strung up in towns along the coast near Acapulco with messages relating to organized crime gangs. The police statement did not provide the text of the messages, but drug cartels frequently use such banners to threaten rivals or claim credit for killings.

The attacks came at the start of what is expected to be a busy three-day weekend for the resort, with tourists taking advantage of Mexico's Day of the Dead holiday.
Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I live on La Frontera. In Mexico lindo - every day is "The Day of the Dead".
Posted by: borgboy || 11/01/2009 13:52 Comments || Top||


Threat of blackout darkens Venezuela energy talks
President Hugo Chavez's government is relocating a gathering of top energy executives due to power outages.

The World Heavy Oil Congress says Venezuelan authorities have moved its three-day conference to Margarita Island.

A posting on the group's Web site says the government advised organizers to relocate "to provide the best possible amenities" as the mainland struggles with blackouts. Hydroelectric power provides about 75 percent of the country's electricity, but Venezuela has been suffering from a monthslong drought.

Critics say Chavez's government is partly to blame because it failed to upgrade Venezuela's power grid.
Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "authorities have moved its three-day conference to Margarita Island."

Which, as we all know, is powered by Tequila.

Posted by: crosspatch || 11/01/2009 2:56 Comments || Top||

#2  More like a rum state of affairs.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/01/2009 4:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Wind turbines. Placed before Hugolito when he speechifies. Guaranteed good for 8 hours of continuous power.
Posted by: ed || 11/01/2009 7:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Carcas Gringo fears a Black Swan event...

Posted by: .5MT || 11/01/2009 7:55 Comments || Top||

#5  I'd tell you all to go to your rooms, but I'd hate to put a damper on your high spirits ....
Posted by: lotp || 11/01/2009 9:53 Comments || Top||

#6  Rantburgers are generally a spirited lot, lotp. So long as no one lights a match, we should be ok. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2009 15:09 Comments || Top||

#7  shhhhp!

zzzzpt!

fsssst!

Posted by: Skunky Glins**** || 11/01/2009 17:57 Comments || Top||


Zelaya upbeat on Honduras deal
Manuel Zelaya, the ousted Honduran president, has said he is hopeful that his country's political crisis will soon be over. Speaking to Al Jazeera in an interview broadcast on Sunday, Zelaya called for congress to "reverse the coup" that forced him from power.

"If the national congress decides to maintain the coup the crisis will continue. If the congress reverses the coup, the crisis will be over," he said by telephone from the Honduran capital.

Zelaya, who was removed from office in June, has been holed up in the Brazilian embassy in Tegucigalpa since he sneaked back into the country over a month ago. His supporters and those of the de facto government have been at odds for four months, but an agreement on Friday raised the possibility that Zelaya could be returned to power ahead of elections in November, as long as congress agrees.

Zelaya told Al Jazeera that he was satisfied with the proposed agreement, which he hoped will see him restored to the presidency before the vote on November 29. "It's a deal that's on a path to succeed," he said.

"Roberto Michiletti [the de facto president of Honduras] is the president of congress and he is the one who signed the accord."

But there is confusion over when congress will meet to sign off on the deal. Comments by Arturo Corrales, a negotiator for the de facto government, soon after the proposed agreement was struck suggested that congress might not discuss the issue before the November 29 elections.

No date has been set for Congress to meet on the issue, but the earliest the deal could be debated is Tuesday, legislators said. Monday is a holiday in Honduras, and many legislators are busy campaigning for the upcoming vote that will also elect a successor to Zelaya.

Lucia Newman, Al Jazeera's Latin America editor, said Zelaya was relying on the political opposition's increasing popularity in the build up to the elections to push congress into agreeing the deal.

"I'm surprised that he's that optimistic, but there is a calculation here - he's depending on the fact his opponents in congress, the opposition party, are leading very substantially in the polls for the up coming election," she said. "The calculation is that unless President Zelaya is reinstated, his supporters will boycott those elections. That will take away legitimacy from those elections and it will make it very difficult for the next government to govern without instability."

Many countries have warned they would not accept the elections if the June coup is not undone - suggesting that if congress approves the pact to reinstate Zelaya, it would win international recognition for the elections.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/01/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ... suggested that congress might not discuss the issue before the November 29 elections.

heh.
Posted by: Frank G || 11/01/2009 9:31 Comments || Top||


Economy
Nine US banks seized in one day
[Iran Press TV Latest] Nine failed banks were seized by US authorities on Friday, the most in a single day since the global economic crisis began.

A total of 115 banks have failed in the US in 2009, the highest annual number since 1992.

Twenty-five banks failed last year but only three collapsed in 2007.

The collapse of the Los Angeles-based California National Bank, which was one of the nine banks seized, was the fourth biggest US bank failure this year.

On Friday, US Bancorp acquired the nine banks that had been held by FBOP Corp, picking up $15.4 billion in deposits and $18.4 billion in assets.

"We're getting ready to turn everything over to U.S. Bank," said Roberta Valdez, a spokeswoman for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. She added "They will continue to operate as normal in the interim," referring to lenders acquired from FBOP.

Besides California National Bank, the other banks seized were Bank USA, NA, in Phoenix; San Diego National Bank; Pacific National Bank in San Francisco; Park National Bank in Chicago; Community Bank of Lemont in Illinois; and North Houston Bank, Madisonville State Bank, and Citizens National Bank in Teague, which are all in Texas.

Banks have been especially damaged by failed real estate loans. Banks that had lent to supposedly solid businesses are suffering losses as buildings sit vacant. As development projects collapse and slowly shut down, builders are defaulting on their loans.

According to the FDIC's confidential problem list, the number of banks on the list jumped to 416 at the end of June from 305 in the first quarter, which is the highest increase since June 1994. Around 13 percent of the banks on the list end up failing.
Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Banks that had lent to supposedly solid businesses are suffering losses as buildings sit vacant.

The arrival of the commercial real estate slump as predicted right here.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2009 13:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Gonna hit right thar with Peak Oil, the H5B3 (BINGO)flu and slightly before the Greenland icepacks melt.
Posted by: .5mt || 11/01/2009 13:14 Comments || Top||

#3  We do live in interesting times, .5MT, times that challenge one to bring all his skills and knowledge to bear. Ain't life grand?
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2009 22:38 Comments || Top||


UAW on pace to reject new Ford contract
After all, who needs an automaker who's not on the federal dole?
For the first time in more than three decades, UAW members at Ford Motor Co. are on track to reject a labor contract negotiated by their company and union leaders. A majority of workers at UAW locals that voted this week have rejected the deal, but several large locals have not finished voting yet.

At Ford's Dearborn Truck Plant, which is part of the larger UAW Local 600, 93% of workers voted to reject, two UAW officials said Friday. Meanwhile, UAW Local 862 in Louisville, Ky., rejected the deal late Friday night, with 84% opposed. Final results are to be reported Monday -- when Ford is to report its third-quarter financial results.

UAW President Ron Gettelfinger told the Free Press on Friday that the deal "still has a chance of being ratified." But if it fails, he said, "There would be no reason" to reopen negotiations. The current contract expires in 2011. "We are not going to give up," Gettelfinger said.

"Our membership has the right to express themselves," Gettelfinger said. "This was a positive contract for our membership -- it gave them long-term job security."

Although a failure to ratify might be viewed as an embarrassing blow, experts told the Free Press that the deal doesn't matter much in the short term for Ford because the automaker and the union already reached a deal on a contract earlier this year that saves $500 million annually.

The only clear financial consequence from a contract rejection will be to workers. By not giving workers the $1,000 bonus promised, Ford will save $41 million.
Shrewd, real shrewd ...
Also on Friday, Ford reached a tentative agreement with the Canadian Autoworkers.

The tentative agreement, which was recommended for ratification by the UAW's leadership earlier this month, calls for a wage freeze for entry-level workers, a commitment to binding arbitration in 2011 for disagreements over pay and benefit increases and a consolidation of skilled-trades classifications. In return, Ford has agreed to provide a $1,000 bonus to workers and additional work to a number of plants.

It allows Ford, generally, to match labor cost savings that General Motors and Chrysler got through bankruptcy reorganizations. Ford executives have told workers and Wall Street analysts it needs the agreement not for short-term financial gains, but for long-term efficiencies.

Jerry Sullivan, president of UAW Local 600, said he understands why many members are opposed. "People have voted five times in the last five years on modifications and competitive operating agreements," Sullivan said. "If you talk to people, they say 'I am tired of it.' "
Posted by: Steve White || 11/01/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  'I am tired of it.'

Of working? Quit then. It's not like there are hundred of thousands of others out there with similar skill levels that will pass up the opportunity.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/01/2009 7:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Screw it. Just put them on the government payroll. That way they can't strike and won't have to produce.
Posted by: ed || 11/01/2009 8:05 Comments || Top||

#3  The last remaining PROFITABLE American car company. Of course the UAWBAMA will attempt to bring it to it's knees.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2009 9:18 Comments || Top||

#4  so all the operations will be done in Canada and these whiny beyotches will be out of jobs. Shrewd is right
Posted by: Frank G || 11/01/2009 9:32 Comments || Top||

#5  With unemployment at 15% in Michigan, Ford should try to bust the union. There will never be a better chance and if they don't they will die a death of a thousand cuts from the UAW and Obama.

Another alternative is to split Ford US from Ford worldwide and let Ford US die.

Because this is really about the UAW, not the car companies.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/01/2009 9:37 Comments || Top||

#6  I was in an antique store yesterday and bought a couple of old end wrenches stamped U.S.A., a 19/32 x 11/16 and a 25/32 x 11/16. The Amigo behind the counter asked "do you collect old tools." I replied no, I seldom find tools made in the USA any longer and figured these might be some of the last. He said, "well, maybe this is a good thing. We should permit other countries to share in our industrial capabilities and wealth." I paid for the wrenches and walked out.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2009 9:41 Comments || Top||

#7  Shoulda told him he should share the wealth and industrial sales capability and walked out without paying for them
Posted by: Frank G || 11/01/2009 9:56 Comments || Top||

#8  The Amigo:
He said, "well, maybe this is a good thing. We should permit other countries to share in our industrial capabilities and wealth."

Should have just showed your iron and made him understand who WTF you were. It time to nip this shit in the bud.
Posted by: .5mt || 11/01/2009 13:18 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
When Bush met his close friend, PM Singh
It was more of a reunion of two old friends on Friday with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh wasting no time in hosting his "good friend" George W Bush to a sumptuous Indian lunch of prawns, mutton korma, fish curry, lamb chops and a host of other delicacies at his residence 7, Race Course Road.

Former US President George Bush arrived in Delhi on Thursday night to address the Hindustan Times Leadership Summit on Saturday.

The camaraderie was obvious as the two leaders interacted. Singh thanked Bush for the nuclear deal and thereby enhancing the Indo-US relations, and said he was "very grateful" for his support.

"It happened because of your leadership," replied a smiling Bush.

Even after leaving power Bush and PM Singh's bonhmie seems to have remained intact.

A cheerful-looking Bush cracked jokes through the lunch, some even at himself. At one point during the conversation he said, "Americans won't believe it, but these days I am reading books!"

The guest list, as is usually the case, was select, restrictive and very powerful. A senior leader said most of guests were those who had been part of the prime minister's inner coterie during the reign of United Progressive Alliance-I and those who had played a vital role in the success of the Indo-US nuclear deal.

Another leader called it a "thank you lunch" with the prime minister rolling out the red carpet to make Bush feel at home.

Interestingly, the Union Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee was not present at the lunch. He addressed the HT summit in the morning session, after the prime minister and soon left for Saudi Arabia.

But it may be recalled that Mukherjee had not been called for the select lunch hosted by the prime minister for US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton when she had visited Delhi earlier this year.

The high-profile lunch included Congress president Sonia Gandhi and her son Rahul Gandhi , the leader of opposition L K Advani , Union Foreign Minister S M Krishna and Union Information and Broadcasting Minister Ambika Soni, Lok Sabha Speaker Meira Kumar and Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission Montek Singh Ahluwalia .

Among officials were the two former foreign secretaries Shyam Saram and Shiv Shankar Menon -- both had played pivotal roles in the nuclear deal. The prime minister's former media advisor Sanjaya Baru and now consulting editor of Business Standard was also invited. Sanjay Baru and media advisor Harish Khare was also present.

The list of guests also included many original movers of the Indo-US nuclear deal.

Organisers of the Summit, Shobhana Bhartiya of HT Media Ltd and Sagarika Ghosh of television news channel CNN-IBN had got the PMO's invitation to join the lunch table.

Rahul Gandhi, who left soon after the lunch to address an election rally in Ferozabad, is reported to have had a one-on-one meeting with Bush. Bush was overheard saying to Sonia Gandhi, "I met your little boy", referring to Rahul.

A senior Congress leader said it was interesting that both Sonia and Rahul were present at the lunch, which comes at a time when China has been pressuring India.

While it is no secret that Dr Singh has been very friendly with Bush, the Gandhis have also been taking pains to signal that they too were fully supportive of the nuclear deal, which was pushed by the prime minister despite resistance from the party.
Posted by: john frum || 11/01/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  lunch of prawns, mutton korma, fish curry, lamb chops and a host of other delicacies at his residence 7, Race Course Road.

Ghee dot sounds good.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/01/2009 6:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Ghee

I saw what you did there, .5MT. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2009 12:07 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
British nuclear expert's UN death plunge 'not suicide'
A British nuclear expert who fell from the 17th floor of a United Nations building did not commit suicide and may have been hurled to his death, says a doctor who carried out a second post-mortem examination. Timothy Hampton, 47, a scientist involved in monitoring nuclear activity, was found dead last week at the bottom of a stairwell in Vienna.

An initial autopsy concluded that there were 'no suspicious circumstances'. But it is understood that Mr Hampton's widow Olena Gryshcuk and her family were deeply unhappy with that verdict.

Now a doctor who undertook a second post-mortem examination on behalf of the family believes she has found evidence that Mr Hampton did not die by his own hands. Professor Kathrin Yen, of the Ludwig Institute in Graz, Austria, which specialises in traumatology research, said she had more tests to complete on Mr Hampton, who had a three-year-old son with Ms Gryshcuk.

But she said one possible theory was that Mr Hampton was carried to the 17th floor from his workplace on the sixth floor and thrown to his death. Professor Yen used new forensic techniques to detect internal bruising caused by strangulation which would not be visible to the eye.

She said: 'In my opinion, it does not look like suicide. My example is that somebody took him up to the top floor and took him down. At the moment I don't have the police reports. We did a CT scan. From the external exam, I saw injuries on the neck but these were not due to strangulation.'

It is expected to take three weeks for blood test results to come back. Austrian police said they believe Mr Hampton committed suicide.

He had been working for the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organisation (CTBTO) at the UN building. CTBTO staff monitor tremors in countries worldwide to uncover illegal nuclear tests. It has been suggested that Mr Hampton may have been involved in talks discussing nuclear testing in Iran. The UN has strongly denied the claims.

His body was discovered last Tuesday at about 8pm. Friends said it was usual for him to work late into the night. His widow, a weapons inspector for the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), was working in Japan when her husband died.

A source close to the family said life had not been easy for Mr Hampton, who was often away from his wife and son. But the source added that he was 'not the suicide type'. He said: 'Tim was rather introverted. He changed his life many times.'

Trained in Britain as a bio-chemist, Mr Hampton worked in a bio-lab before moving into construction. He then worked on nuclear test-ban projects before joining the UN in 1998, said the CTBTO.

The IAEA, an independent and separate organisation, inspects nuclear plants worldwide and is based in the building next to the CTBTO in Vienna.

Under a year ago, an American died at the IAEA in strikingly similar circumstances, his body being found at the bottom of a stairwell. A UN spokeswoman said an investigation into that case continues, though Austrian police have concluded it was suicide. She said: 'This might have been a copycat thing in the CTBTO.'
Posted by: Steve White || 11/01/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  WAFF > TURKISH PM: IFF YOU [US-World] DON'T WANT IRAN TO HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, GIVE YOURS UP!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/01/2009 2:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Joseph, I dont think anyone is big enough... and I also dont think anyone and his brother and the neighbors is big enough to make the United States do a damn thing about getting rid of its nuclear arsenal. What do you think? When are you gonna learn that right and wrong dont have a damn thing to do with the use of Force? Your Momma dont matter, Joseph.

You are wasting air even suggesting that it might ever happen, you do understand wasting your time and your air dont you?

Now with a military ten times bigger than all of the ten other military in a big unmarked box, the United States is going to feel somewhat confident most of the time.

We may not have the right "strategy" down exactly some of the time, but we can make up for that by being brutal and just shooting your dog and grinning. And then the ball is in your court and you can either play by our rules or wipe your nose.

Or you can denounce us at the UN and see what it gets you.

Iran in the long run, cant really expect to keep what it has and have the United States just say "well, OK."
As soon as Iran admits to having a nuke, they have signed their Last Will and Testament. Then it goes into Endgame. No matter what administration is in the Oval Office at that time... the American People will be the A team.

No one likes a war, you avoid them as long as you can, sometimes you avoid them longer than was good for all concerned. But when they do come around there is a basic rule that is absolutely unchanging..."somebody wins and somebody loses".

Joseph, ( sad but true) We Have nuked people before and we are perfectly capable in this unjust and vicious world of doing it again.

When it is all said and done Human Nature is a not very nice. And there are always six men out of a hundred who do 87% of the killing. And there are one or two of that six who are unbelievable.

Joseph, those six men dont sit down and talk things over with you. They will come at you from the side and pull your plug and you wont even get a warning. Trust me , the US military is full of those guys.

There inevitably comes a moment in politics when these guys get the nod. Iran is living on borrowed time. And it IS only a matter of time now. There isnt going to be a happy ending, Joseph. Its already getting dark and the candy hasnt worked.
Posted by: Angleton9 || 11/01/2009 6:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Iran is living on borrowed time. And it IS only a matter of time now.

If you're suggesting the US will get involved with Iran to forcibly deal with anything to do with nukes now or in the future, don't bet on it unless they threaten the US directly. Even then, any response wouldn't likely be out in the open. It doesn't matter anyhow, Iran has nothing to fear from the current US administration, and to think the UN can do anything is just foolish.
The genie is out of the bottle and won't be put back ever.
Posted by: NCMike || 11/01/2009 7:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Angleton9 your having an indepth discussion with a logistics, command and control computer that dabbles in AI.
Posted by: .5MT || 11/01/2009 7:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Typical slip and fall accident. The UN will be hearing from his lawyers.
Posted by: ed || 11/01/2009 9:03 Comments || Top||

#6  "WAFF > TURKISH PM: IFF YOU [US-World] DON'T WANT IRAN TO HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS, GIVE YOURS UP!" Posted by: JosephMendiola

"You are wasting air even suggesting that it might ever happen, you do understand wasting your time and your air dont you?" Posted by: Angleton9

Ummm, Angleton? I know Joe's a little hard to understand sometimes, particularly when he forgets to take the caps-lock key off, but you do realize he's not saying that himself, but reporting what the Turkish PM said, don't you?

As for the Bambi present Administration, I'd no doubt whatsoever that if they could figure out how to get rid of America's nukes - thereby damaging America even more than they already have - without hurting themselves, they'd do it in a heartbeat.

If that heartbeat happens to be yours and mine, so much the better.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/01/2009 9:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Obama has repeatedly stated he favors dismantling the US nuclear stockpile. Initiatives started last Spring in that direction.
Posted by: lotp || 11/01/2009 10:33 Comments || Top||

#8  "I'd" = "I've"

Nutz. :-(
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/01/2009 10:54 Comments || Top||

#9  Angleton9,
Don't punish the messenger for delivering the message. Call up the Turkish PM and talk him to death about Iran/nukes...
Posted by: ReadCloselyNextTime || 11/01/2009 13:24 Comments || Top||

#10  And there are always six men out of a hundred who do 87% of the killing. And there are one or two of that six who are unbelievable.

Overall a good rant, Angleton9 dear. But, some of the things JosephM has let slip in his less capitalized posts suggest he is either one of those six men you mention, or puffing himself up immensely. Of course, I am not qualified to judge which is true.

WAFF > TURKISH PM:

JosephMendiola can be a bit difficult to translate, and many of us have stumbled over that -- me repeatedly, and if I'm tired I don't do more than skim his posts. In the one at the top of the thread he references an article he either saw at a site called WAFF, or comes from a news site named WAFF, presumably analogous to AP, UPI, Iran Press TV. The headline or the subject of the article is something the Turkish prime minister said. JosephM does not check to see if Rantburg has covered something when he decides it's important to share; about half the time we've already had it here, but the rest of the time it is more or less useful, and with the source we can look it up for ourselves.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2009 17:40 Comments || Top||

#11  Joe M. is an Oracle. He cranks out prophecy in a mysterious and convoluted format. We mere mortals are tasked with figuring out what it all means.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/01/2009 20:48 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Senior U.S. officials traveling to Burma
For the first time in more than a decade, senior U.S. officials will travel to Burma to meet with that country's leaders and political dissidents as part of a policy shift by the Obama administration.

Kurt Campbell, assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs, and Scot Marciel, a deputy assistant secretary, are scheduled to visit Burma on Nov. 3 and 4, the State Department announced Friday. A State Department official said Campbell and Marciel would meet with opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi. Suu Kyi, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, has spent 14 of the last 20 years under some form of imprisonment and is currently under house arrest.

The last senior U.S. official to travel to Burma, also known as Myanmar, was Madeleine Albright, then U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, in 1995.
According to the AP, Aung San Suu Kyi supports the trip.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/01/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Very, very troubled region. This trip may not have a 'happy ending.'
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2009 13:07 Comments || Top||

#2  We can thank John Rambo for opening the door for these talks.
Posted by: Yo Adrian || 11/01/2009 13:27 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran arrests 1,069 with drugs headed to Mecca
[Al Arabiya Latest] More than 1,000 Iranians have been arrested over the past seven months in possession of drugs on their way to Mecca in Saudi Arabia to perform Ummra, or lesser pilgrimage, according to official Iranian sources.

Last year, 336 pilgrims were arrested carrying around seven kilograms of drugs, but this year the number reached 1,069 people and 14 kilograms, said Hussein Abbadi, chief of Iran's anti-drugs police.

"Saudi authorities also arrested this year 160 Iranians for possession of drugs and they were sent to jail," he told the Iranian Students News Agency (ISNA).

Abbadi added that the percentage of drug trafficking to Saudi has increased by 52 percent and that the Iranian police is intensifying its efforts to eliminate this phenomenon.

In a meeting held by the Iranian Anti-Narcotics Commission, which president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad participated in, Abbadi submitted a report about the latest arrests of pilgrims heading for Saudi.

"A committee was formed of representatives of the Anti-Narcotics Commission, hajj officials, and police officers in order to figure out the best way to combat this phenomenon as well as solve the problem of Iranian detainees in Saudi."

Last year, the number of Iranian pilgrims reached 780,000, 223 of which were arrested by the Saudi authorities. 160 Iranians were charged with drug possession while the rest were arrested for other charges like fighting with other pilgrims, theft, and smoking in the Mecca shrine.

According to official Iranian sources, Iran is the biggest consumer of opium all over the world and having common borders with Afghanistan makes the availability of drugs much easier.

Iran has 1,200,000 drug addicts, of which 12,000 are dangerous addicts, according to the Anti-Narcotics Commission.
Posted by: Fred || 11/01/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And they will be taking back H1N1 or H5N1 flu.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/01/2009 4:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Inshallah, phil_b.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/01/2009 10:27 Comments || Top||

#3  In my youth, I knew many who prayed to "The White Goddess". More faithful than a women they said...
Posted by: borgboy || 11/01/2009 13:55 Comments || Top||

#4  According to official Iranian sources, Iran is the biggest consumer of opium all over the world.

Just when I was convinced we needed to go all-out in Afghanistan and napalm the poppies, I'mma rethinking the strategy. With Russia being a major destination of the heroin, and Iran, Pakistan, and China both having a vested interest in this fight, maybe we should pull out and let them fight the turf battles, hopefully down to the last man standing.
Posted by: Lumpy Elmoluck5091 || 11/01/2009 18:55 Comments || Top||

#5  "It's my wife and it's my life..."
Posted by: Gabby || 11/01/2009 18:56 Comments || Top||

#6  Perhaps that is how many people can parade circles around a meteorite and have it nmake sense. Hallucenogens.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/01/2009 22:52 Comments || Top||

#7  hopefully down to the last man standing.

Or the last man dreaming?
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2009 23:06 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
US Army OKs Sikh Doc to Wear Beard, Turban
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2009 17:11 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Approval for this action would have had to have come from the very top. "Not this Shi* again" graphic if you would mods.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/01/2009 17:36 Comments || Top||

#2 
Posted by: Fluns Darling of the Munchkins6049 || 11/01/2009 18:33 Comments || Top||

#3  The Army used to allow Sikhs to serve wearing turbans, etc. As I've mentioned here before, I remember seeing a Sikh in a U.S. Army uniform in Frankfurt am Main (West Germany) in the early 1970's. Sikhs are warriors; they somehow manage to serve in combat in the Indian Army, and used to (if they don't still) in the British Army. He's a doctor, not a front-line grunt.

BTW, after the other time I mentioned seeing the really cool Sikh soldier in Germany in the 1970's, the guy contacted me by e-mail. (He lurks here, or at least used to.)

Is the internet cool or what? :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/01/2009 18:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Was his name Col. Gopal Khalsa, Barbara? He's retiring this month after 30 years and has always worn his beard and turban.

My only objection is the precedent it sets. Plus, where does their loyalty really lie? Is it to their sworn duties as military officers of the United States or to their religion (the one that forbids them to cut their hair or shave)?

In the case of Rattan, he's already said he's not willing to sacrifice his religious beliefs.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/01/2009 19:27 Comments || Top||

#5  No, Woozle. This was an enlisted soldier.

The precedent has already been set, many years ago, and the Army didn't fall apart because of it. It doesn't hurt the Army in any way for Sikhs to wear their turbans, beards and unshorn hair. (And they look really cool in uniform.) I don't see where there's a loyalty problem - Sikhs are honorable men and will stand by their sworn duties as military officers.

In fact, I'd take any 10 Sikh men off the street over one Weasel Clark.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/01/2009 20:46 Comments || Top||

#6  We do indeed have some fascinating lurkers here, Barbara. They so enrich our conversation when they start posting, too. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/01/2009 22:43 Comments || Top||



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