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The Silent Scream of the Asparagus
by Wesley J. Smith

You just knew it was coming: At the request of the Swiss government, an ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined that the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously debated.
I guess we'll be seeing more "Keep Off The Grass" signs.
A few years ago the Swiss added to their national constitution a provision requiring "account to be taken of the dignity of creation when handling animals, plants and other organisms." No one knew exactly what it meant, so they asked the Swiss Federal Ethics Committee on Non-Human Biotechnology to figure it out. The resulting report, "The Dignity of Living Beings with Regard to Plants," is enough to short circuit the brain.

A "clear majority" of the panel adopted what it called a "biocentric" moral view, meaning that "living organisms should be considered morally for their own sake because they are alive." Thus, the panel determined that we cannot claim "absolute ownership" over plants and, moreover, that "individual plants have an inherent worth." This means that "we may not use them just as we please, even if the plant community is not in danger, or if our actions do not endanger the species, or if we are not acting arbitrarily."
There go the Vegans. Now we have nothing to eat. Soylent Green, anyone?
The committee offered this illustration: A farmer mows his field (apparently an acceptable action, perhaps because the hay is intended to feed the farmer's herd--the report doesn't say). But then, while walking home, he casually "decapitates" some wildflowers with his scythe. The panel decries this act as immoral, though its members can't agree why. The report states, opaquely:
Because WE say so! Neener-neener!
At this point it remains unclear whether this action is condemned because it expresses a particular moral stance of the farmer toward other organisms or because something bad is being done to the flowers themselves.
What is clear, however, is that Switzerland's enshrining of "plant dignity" is a symptom of a cultural disease that has infected Western civilization, causing us to lose the ability to think critically and distinguish serious from frivolous ethical concerns. It also reflects the triumph of a radical anthropomorphism that views elements of the natural world as morally equivalent to people.

Why is this happening? Our accelerating rejection of the Judeo-Christian world view, which upholds the unique dignity and moral worth of human beings, is driving us crazy. Once we knocked our species off its pedestal, it was only logical that we would come to see fauna and flora as entitled to rights.
The Rise of Arugala! Bean-brains unite!
The intellectual elites were the first to accept the notion of "species-ism," which condemns as invidious discrimination treating people differently from animals simply because they are human beings. Then ethical criteria were needed for assigning moral worth to individuals, be they human, animal, or now vegetable.
Ahhh, the "Intellectual Elites". I new they had a lot in common with vegetables, like bean sprouts for brains. I wonder if this is because of diet? You know, like the plants are slowly taking over their pea-brains?Is it the Pod People?
Rising to the task, leading bioethicists argue that for a human, value comes from possessing sufficient cognitive abilities to be deemed a "person." This excludes the unborn, the newborn, and those with significant cognitive impairments, who, personhood theorists believe, do not possess the right to life or bodily integrity. This thinking has led to the advocacy in prestigious medical and bioethical journals of using profoundly brain impaired patients in medical experimentation or as sources of organs.
This is a very dangerous road to follow. This is also why abortion is so readily accepted now. Euthanasia of "non-persons" is the next step. More at the link.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 05/04/2008 10:09 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Lemming Gene:

No wonder the Caliphate Islamics are so sure of themselves..
Posted by: RD || 05/04/2008 14:58 Comments || Top||

#2  These people are sufficiently mentally ill that no truly humane society should allow them to vote.

Does that sound harsh? Tough. This mental illness that devalues and deconstructs humanity's place on this planet, if allowed to go unchecked much further, will be the death of our species, which would probably make the po-mo leftist crowd happy.

We should take all of the animal rights crazies, the philosophers who say that a newborn isn't fully sentient, and the "environmentalists" who say that humans should not thrive, and do the right thing. Have the balls to mark them as being insane, and deny them plebiscite.

The consequences of not doing so could mean the end of humanity.
Posted by: no mo uro || 05/04/2008 15:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Pagan fatwas are the fastest growing Swiss industry.
Posted by: ed || 05/04/2008 16:44 Comments || Top||

#4  You'll need a permit to murder the grass, and then buy those chlorophyll offset credits at the algore booth? Who's running this planet anyway?
Posted by: Muggsy Gling || 05/04/2008 16:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Live your teachings. (So starve already) or shut up.
Either way, the concept is disastrous.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 05/04/2008 17:52 Comments || Top||

#6  The GLOBAL COLLECTIVE = SPECIALTY FARM riseth.

"Decapitates some wildflowers" > CRAB/ELEPHANT GRASS GANG DELINQUENTS - "HAHA - WILFLOWERS NEED IMPLANTS" {Simpsons]? HUMAN-WILDFLOWER RAPE?

FARK.com > I Gut Nuthin'.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 05/04/2008 19:54 Comments || Top||

#7  "The trees were screaming."

--Ed Chigliak, Northern Exposure episode "Dateline: Cicely"
Posted by: Mike || 05/04/2008 20:39 Comments || Top||

#8  "Soylent Green is people." I never got that. What does it mean?
Posted by: Mr Stupid || 05/04/2008 21:15 Comments || Top||

#9  no haz the Google?
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2008 21:24 Comments || Top||

#10  Say a prayer to the wheat god before you harvest the field. Oh, wait, there's no wheat god. Well, plants have rights, we think.



Animals either eat other creatures, or they die. It's that simple. If you object, go die quietly somewhere.

The rest is an evolving argument about needless waste and reduction of suffering when you do the necessary thing. At what point do these actions become criminal? Is is possible to commit a crime terminating a plant, as it is when terminating an animal? Should horse racing be banned to avoid unpleasant, possibly criminal, eventualities? PETA thinks so. An abberation or the wave of the future?

If I have a nice 24 inch maple, is it criminal to burn it instead of making furniture? What if it's a black walnut? What if it's blocking my view? My neighbor's view? My solar panel?

Maybe a license is needed every time you terminate something; that's the modern way. Rocks have rights, too. After all, they've been around a long time.

Is it ethical to destroy a fossil? A Ford Pinto? A Ferrari Barchetta?
Posted by: KBK || 05/04/2008 21:42 Comments || Top||

#11  So what will the 'Keep Off the Grass" signs be made of? Can't use wood or paper, since pine trees have feelings too.

Posted by: USN,Ret. || 05/04/2008 23:45 Comments || Top||

#12  People of course.

Its amazing how the same people who are so in-your-face about protecting animals (and now plants) don't have any problem at all about the unborn.

Just saying....
Posted by: Bertie Unavimble7376 || 05/04/2008 23:59 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Mark Steyn: Obama's surrender
National Review

Four score and seven years ago… No, wait, my mistake. Two score and seven or eight days ago, Barack Obama gave the greatest speech since the Gettysburg Address, or FDR’s First Inaugural, or JFK’s religion speech, or (if like Garry Wills in The New York Review of Books, you find those comparisons drearily obvious) Lincoln’s Cooper Union speech of 1860. And, of course, the Senator’s speech does share one quality with Cooper Union, Gettysburg, the FDR Inaugural, Henry V at Agincourt, Socrates’s Apology, etc: It’s history. He said, apropos the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, that “I could no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother.” But last week he did disown him. So, great-speech-wise, it’s a bit like Churchill promising to fight them on the beaches and never surrender, and then surrendering a month and a half later, and on a beach he decided not to fight on. . . .

Go read it all.
Posted by: Mike || 05/04/2008 08:12 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The 'first' speech by Obama was a grace saving way for Rev. Wright to 'meld quietly into the background'! Since he didn't accept the 'hint' and thus STFU, Obama had no choice but to excise the 'cancer'!
Posted by: smn || 05/04/2008 13:50 Comments || Top||

#2  excise the 'cancer'!

Harsh words for a man who was Obama's pastor and spiritual mentor for a couple decades. The operative word being 'was', apparently.

Any bets on whether Obama dumps his Weatherman friends in the near future?
Posted by: SteveS || 05/04/2008 14:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Obama's run for the Presidency may show that he has no friends, only cooperatives and 'ingrates'!
Posted by: smn || 05/04/2008 14:22 Comments || Top||

#4  ... apropos the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, that “I could no more disown him than I can disown my white grandmother.” But last week he did disown him. So, great-speech-wise, it’s a bit like Churchill promising to fight them on the beaches and never surrender, and then surrendering a month and a half later, and on a beach he decided not to fight on. . . .

It was never a great speech. It was a simulacrum [sic An unreal or vague semblance] of a great speech written to flatter gullible pundits into hailing it as the real deal. It should be “required reading in classrooms,” said Bob Herbert in the New York Times; it was “extraordinary” and “rhetorical magic,” said Joe Klein in Time - which gets closer to the truth: As with most “magic,” it was merely a trick of redirection. Obama appeared to have made Jeremiah Wright vanish into thin air, but it turned out he was just under the heavily draped table waiting to pop up again. The speech was designed to take a very specific problem — the fact that Barack Obama, the Great Uniter, had sat in the pews of a neo-segregationist huckster for 20 years — and generalize it into some grand meditation on race in America. Senator Obama looked America in the face and said: Who ya gonna believe? My “rhetorical magic” or your lyin’ eyes?

That’s an easy choice for the swooning bobbysoxers of the media. With less impressionable types, such as voters, Senator Obama is having a tougher time. The Philly speech is emblematic of his most pressing problem: the gap — indeed, full-sized canyon — that’s opening up between the rhetorical magic and the reality. That’s the difference between a simulacrum and a genuinely great speech. The gaseous platitudes of hope and change and unity no longer seem to fit the choices of Obama’s adult life. Oddly enough, the shrewdest appraisal of the Senator’s speechifying “magic” came from Jeremiah Wright himself. “He’s a politician,” said the Reverend. “He says what he has to say as a politician… He does what politicians do.”


Obama = a Retorical Gas-Bag. [period]
Posted by: RD || 05/04/2008 14:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Obama's run for the Presidency may show that he has no friends,

Somewhere floating around in the murky depths of my so-called memory is a saying,

'The President HAS no "friends".

Unable to tag it with a date, place, or time, just a bump in the fog.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 05/04/2008 17:58 Comments || Top||

#6  RD, I think you're mistaken. There's an "h" in Rhetorical. Other than that? Good to go.
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2008 18:06 Comments || Top||

#7  RD, I think you're mistaken. There's an "h" in Rhetorical. Other than that? Good to go.

~;) thankee knindily Mr. Frank..

... miy splling leeves luch tode emagination!
Posted by: RD || 05/04/2008 20:15 Comments || Top||

#8  :-) I'm a picky asshole
Posted by: Frank G || 05/04/2008 20:18 Comments || Top||

#9  But you're not a clueless one....
Posted by: Pappy || 05/04/2008 22:11 Comments || Top||


Iraq
GMLRS aka Hand of Allah
A couple of months ago I linked to a post by Michael Goldfarb about Excalibur asking if we really need that kind of precision system when we have JDAMS and other aircraft-launched, precision munitions. I remember a comment on a soldier's website that basically said 'You don't want to trust the flyboys and have them not come through for you.'

In that vein, I was really interested to see Michael Fabey's article in today's Aerospace Daily & Defense Report: Army colonel says enemies see GMLRS as 'hand of Allah'.

U.S. Army commanders and troops have come to view the Army's Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) as their "70-kilometer sniper rifle," but enemy forces in Iraq see the weapon in a starker light. "The enemy is calling it the 'Hand of Allah,'" said Col. David Rice, Army program manager - Precision Fires Rockets & Missile Systems.

For enemy forces, the rockets seemingly come from nowhere, Rice said Aug. 1 during a press briefing on the program.

And one more excerpt:

With their vertical trajectory, ability to cover 70 kilometers (43 miles) in 82 seconds and close-combat precision, GMLRS rockets are becoming the rockets of choice, even when other more traditional missiles or other bombs are available.

Army officials say many requests for the rockets to be used instead of aircraft-launched missiles are coming from the Air Force.

Of the estimated 273 missions in which GMLRS rockets have been used in theater, about 83 percent were accomplished in urban environments and 69 percent were done with troops in close proximity, Rice said. Not that GMLRS is Excalibur. My point is the Army seems to have at least one very effective precision munition of its own.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 05/04/2008 02:29 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Demon Child of Assault Breaker
Posted by: George Smiley || 05/04/2008 10:07 Comments || Top||

#2  These should be made a part of special forces units. Imagine placing this 40 miles from your operation, and calling in the percision attacks against targeted terrorists leaderships.

one report says they've used this 6 times against special groups command and control.

when you combine the necessary Human intel with special forces and or spotter networks like the sons of iraq, a lot of lives can be saved and a lot of collatoral damage eliminated.

The network interfaces of these combinations offer incredible performance advantages.
Posted by: Thraviper Panda2099 || 05/04/2008 10:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Steel Rain, it ended Desert Storm damn near before it started.
Posted by: George Smiley || 05/04/2008 10:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Bringing GMLRS to SOF is hard because of the range limits on the launchers. Perhaps the upcoming PAM systems will fix that.
Posted by: rammer || 05/04/2008 13:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Can you imagine three of these, with immediate reload capabilities, replacing the turrets of a WWII battleship? Add a launch/recovery system for a UAV, with immediate download to the fire control center, and you've got a weapon system that can cause havoc to ports, harbors, and defenses while staying 35-40 miles out of range of any counter-battery fire. I'm surprised the Marines aren't screaming for something like this.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 05/04/2008 16:21 Comments || Top||

#6  The Alabama Is here in Mobile, sitting on the bottom, but still dry in-hull, I'd love to see her re-commissioned, stripped of turrets, nuke-powered, (One or two of those Submarine plants would do it) and back as a missle launcher platform, she'd be damn hard to hurt, fill her with ping-pong balls and unsinkable too.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 05/04/2008 18:08 Comments || Top||

#7  Special Forces (Green Berets) communicate and train with locals. Special Operations such a Delta, Seals, Rangers, Spec Ops Marines break things. Please don't confuse the missions (though Centcom and DOD seems to be doing so).
Posted by: tipover || 05/04/2008 21:54 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel snubs Hamas ceasefire proposal
By Hassan Hanizadeh
Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak’s insistence on continuing the confrontation with Hamas and his rejection of the recent ceasefire proposal prove that the Zionist regime is still following a warmongering policy and wants to continue massacring the innocent people of Gaza.

Through Egyptian mediation, 11 Palestinian factions recently arrived at an agreement to establish a ceasefire with Israel, but it seems the Zionist regime is opposed to any plan that could bring about the establishment of peace in occupied Palestine.

Zionist officials apparently believe that the proposal is a sign of the weakness of the jihadi movements, and especially Hamas, and that the Israeli army should take advantage of the group’s compromised situation and destroy Hamas.

Israel has imposed an economic siege on Gaza for over ten months and is implementing its expansionist plans in the region through the recent brutal attacks on the city.

The Zionist regime is attempting to give the impression that it seeks peace by sending peace proposals to Syria, while at the same time it is trying to alter the demography of Palestine through the bombardments of Gaza.

It seems that Israel plans to escalate its air strikes in order to force the residents of the Gaza Strip to migrate to the West Bank and Rafah, Egypt so that the Palestinian Authority government can gain control of all the territories occupied in 1967.

In their new plan, the Zionists intend to expel the Palestinians who live in the territories occupied in 1948 as part of the project to Judaize Palestine.

The current global political climate, the silence of international organizations, and the presidential election campaign in the United States have made Israel even more determined to implement such plans.

The Democratic and Republican presidential candidates’ competition for the support of the Zionist lobby gives Zionist regime officials the opportunity to demand more ransom for their backing.

Israeli officials are currently pursuing a carrot-and-stick policy in the region. On the one hand, they claim to be prepared to negotiate with Syria, but on the other hand, they refuse to accept the Palestinian groups’ ceasefire proposal.

Surely, if the Zionist regime continues committing war crimes in Palestine, the jihadi movements will adopt the measures necessary to save the lives of the Gazans, and this will cause an escalation of the violence in the occupied territories.

Posted by: Fred || 05/04/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  "Hamas ceasefire proposal"

That's PA-speak for Israel should cease fire and Hamas will keep shooting.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 05/04/2008 0:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, Barb, it could mean that Israel must stop shooting, and Hamas will stop shooting. Of course, Islamic Jihad can continue to shoot. Or Fatah, or any one of the dozen other groups that appear whenever Israel needs to be shot at.
Posted by: Rambler in California || 05/04/2008 1:23 Comments || Top||

#3  It seems the zionist regime has finally understood the meaning of "hudna".

Let's put it this way boys: if YOU were the stronger side, and YOU were winning, and the other side was weaker and was losing, what would YOU do if the other side called for a cease fire? Why, you'd say it was a trick to get a rest, re-arm, and come back stronger.

Now, try to get a clue: THEY KNOW YOU'D SAY THAT, SO THEY'RE TREATING YOU THE WAY YOU WOULD TREAT THEM IF YOU WERE WINNING AND THEY WERE LOSING.

Up until now, they were acting like Jooos.

NOW they're STARTING to act like MUSLIMS.

What's next?

Look into YOUR OWN BLACK HEARTS AND SOULS.

And be afraid.

VERY afraid.
Posted by: Ptah || 05/04/2008 15:42 Comments || Top||

#4  I always pray my enemies act like Jooooooooooos,
Posted by: George Smiley || 05/04/2008 16:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Wonder when the Israelis are going to understand the meaning of "Drive them into the sea"?
Posted by: ed || 05/04/2008 16:46 Comments || Top||


Home Front Economy
America Doing Better Than Kyoto
Posted by: tipper || 05/04/2008 04:40 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "You don't understand"[channeling the left]"It's not about facts, it's about feelings.""By not signing Kyoto we forfeit the Moral High Ground[tm]clinging to our post-modern sovereignty".
Posted by: Procopius2k || 05/04/2008 8:40 Comments || Top||



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