[JihadWatch] "British men and women, many in their teens, are being radicalised to the point of violence within weeks, MI5 warned yesterday."
Why is it so easy for these young Muslims to be "radicalised to the point of violence within weeks"?
Because the youts don't see any compelling alternative...
Why does the peaceful, tolerant Islam that UK officials are so unshakably confident is taught in mosques all over the country so easily break down in the face of this "radicalising"?
Perhaps what you're 'unshakably confident' about is wrong?
"Investigators have also detected a significant overlap between Islamist suspects and those suffering mental health problems." Has anyone attempted to account for this alarming prevalence of mental illness among young Muslims in the UK?
No, such investigation would be forbidden. Any medico who proposed it would be run out of the DHS, and any politician who advocated it would became the assistant penguin commissioner in the Falklands...
There have been investigations into the incidence of mental and physical handicaps resulting from the high proportion of close-cousin marriage among Britain's Muslims, which includes mental illness. No doubt statistics could be distilled from previously collected data. All that would be needed is a single courageous reporter.
Or is this a Stalinesque attempt to ascribe unwanted views to mental illness, rather than face the reality of how this ideology actually grows and spreads?
"Three thousands terror suspects plotting to attack UK," by Sean O'Neill, The Times, September 18, 2015:
MI5 and anti-terrorism police are monitoring more than 3,000 homegrown Islamic extremists willing to carry out attacks in Britain, security sources have told The Times.
The tipping point comes when the number being watched overwhelms the resources allocated to do so.
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OK, just as a thought experiment, let's say that MI5 has total tabs on all the remotely possible Jihadists. Then imagine than, next Tuesday, they all simultaneously decide to 'do' something.
How could you possibly stop them all? (Answer: you couldn't.)
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Here's what'll happen.
MI5 will keep tabs on these guys.
Then, one day, they will all drop out of sight.
A few days later, a slew of terror attacks will take place, perpetrated by these known wolves.
Then MI5 will say "Well, we couldn't stop them and we can't find 'em now, but we certainly know all about them! We've even got baby pictures! Wanna see?"
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You mean they're not coming to work and pay for our pensions?
Posted by: regular joe ||
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#3 OK, just as a thought experiment, let's say that MI5 has total tabs on all the remotely possible Jihadists. Then imagine than, next Tuesday, they all simultaneously decide to 'do' something.
That is a concern. I may be a bit paranoid but such an event is conceivable. Suppose, these 3000 decided that on a certain day at a certain time to pull off a Fort Hood "workplace" accident or a Mumbai scenario across Britain or Canada or the U.S. The toll would be devastating. Hope our betters are considering such an possibility. They seem somewhat inept at responding to other emergencies.
1.) Commenters on youtube disputed Levant's description of benefits for 'refugees.'
The truth is that all of this is in legal limbo right now. Laws and international treaties are at best in suspended animation.
If these young men are the first step of chain migration they and their extended families will receive generous benefits from the German taxpayer unless the laws are drastically changed.
2.) IMO Merkel didn't want to answer the question (asked by a presumably Swiss woman in Switzerland.) So she incoherently recited some more or less related talking points to stall for time.
"The making of a journalist politician : no ideas and the ability to express them."
3. ) At 4:54 Merkel says, '... we have all opportunities and freedoms to affirm our religion ...'
For some valuesof 'we' that statement has been patently false for years.
Historical precedent teaches us that it will turn into a false statement for significantly more values of 'we.'
[Ynet] While the EU needs millions of new workers in order to stabilize its pension system, immigrants' contribution to its labor market is disputable, and instead of integration there is more radicalization.
Bad news for asylum seekers: The interior ministers of the European Union ...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing... countries have failed to come up with an acceptable formula for their dispersion.
Only two weeks ago, Germany and Austria -- two countries with a dark past -- announced an open border policy, taking in refugees without limitations. A model of boundless humanism, unlike Hungary, which limited its compassion. Two weeks have passed, and Germany and Austria have also decided, in an unusual move, to supervise their borders.
There is no need to shout, "They mustn't do to the refugees today what they once did to the Jews." Nor should we cry out, "They will Islamize Europe."
The picture is a bit more complicated. Those who are fleeing for their lives deserve refuge and boundless compassion. But many of the asylum seekers are searching for a better life. They are miserable. Any sane person would do what they are doing. But there are no furnaces waiting for them.
They are escaping the Sharia rule and don't want to impose the Sharia. So Europe is deliberating. It's a difficult dilemma precisely because the EU should not be deciding about the refugees' fate -- between life and death. It should be deciding between a miserable life and opening gates, which will turn the hundreds of thousands of the past few weeks into millions in the coming months.
Europe is aging. It needs millions of new workers in order to be able to pay pensions. But in practice, it's not at all clear whether the new migrants are the solution. Studies published in the past decade reveal grim findings. In Sweden, for example, the unemployment rate among Moslems is four to 10 times higher (depending on the country of origin) than the general population.
In England they checked the lack of participation in the labor force according to countries of origin. Among the Somalis it was 81 percent; among the Turks - 59 percent; among the Bangladeshis - 56 percent; among the Paks - 55 percent. In general, 53 percent of Moslem men and 76 percent of Moslem women in the age of labor are unemployed, compared to 16.7 percent and 24.6 percent, respectively, among the general population. We are talking about veteran immigrants, including members of the second generation.
The situation is similar in Germany. Forty percent of children under the age of 10 in Berlin are the sons and daughters of immigrants, and the unemployment rate among the Turks in the same city is 40 percent.
The labor market is not welcoming them with flowers. Even if they have similar skills, people with names like Ahmed and Mustafa encounter severe discrimination while looking for a job. The blatant discrimination is against Moslems, more than against black people or other foreigners. The situation is similar in all European countries.
So while the official policy is to welcome the refugees, something different is happening in the labor market. And in any event, the dependency of many immigrants - including members of the second generation - on the welfare system, along with the high unemployment rates, cast doubts on the myth of immigrants' contribution to preventing the pension system's collapse.
Germany, with a population of 80 million people, is capable of dealing with one million immigrants a year, and the EU, with 500 million people, is capable of taking in a higher number. But after two weeks of protests in favor of the asylum seeker, the pendulum is starting to swing in the opposite direction. Suddenly, it's not entirely clear that they are all refugees, their contribution to the labor market is disputable, instead of integration - as surveys about members of the second generation of immigrants prove - there is more radicalization, and the accumulated experience in the past few decades raises questions.
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"They are escaping the Sharia rule and don't want to impose the Sharia."
Don't pay attention to the 'Allahu Ackbar' screaming jihad and sharia mobs behind the curtain!
These 'refugees' are indeed fleeing from regimes of a certain nature. And they do intend to impose regimes of a similar nature on the people and nations they're fleeing to, by political means and by violence.
This is paradoxical, but it is an empirically observable fact.
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"Those who are fleeing for their lives deserve refuge and boundless compassion."
This may be true in many, perhaps most cases. But it isn't an absolute truth.
People who are indeed fleeing from credible threats to their lives can still be a threat to the country they're fleeing to. And even if they aren't they can be wicked and evil people who committed terrible crimes.
Eichmann and Mengele didn't deserve but received compassion. They and their victims deserved justice.
Given the brutality and lawlessness of the Syrian/Iraqi/Afghan civil war, it is a statistical certainty that among the millions there are thousands of seasoned brutal killers apart from the terrorists.
These people are both a threat to the West because of their acquired habits and they are also deserving of justice.
In recent weeks, fresh “Death to America” graffiti has appeared on the walls of some Tehran streets. In order to show that the graffiti is not old, the artists have added the year to the bottom of their work: 2015, or 1394, the Iranian calendar year.
A few days ago, the appearance of such graffiti on a brick wall of the former American embassy in Tehran — and its subsequent removal — hit the headlines, with several news sites publishing photographs. Certain media interpreted this event as a change in Iran’s attitude towards the United States. But the clean walls lasted no more than a few days; new “Death to America!” graffiti appeared at the same place and a second slogan was added a little further down the wall.
Immediately after the news was published, the Student’s Mobilization Organization, which has its headquarters in the former US embassy, published a statement denying the reports. “This morning the media published reports about wiping out the ‘Death to America!’ slogans from the walls of the Spy Nest,” it said. It went on to accuse those who want to normalize relations with the US of fabricating news and promised that the slogan “will always decorate these walls.”
Arguments over the “Death to America!” slogans and whether they should stay or be removed have been going on Iran for many years. Sadegh Zibakalam, an outspoken professor of political sciences at the University of Tehran known for taunting hardliners — or even President Rouhani for the promises he has not kept — has advocated the removal of the slogan from the walls of Tehran for quite a long time.
While the optimism for solving the problems between the two countries has grown in Iran, not everyone is happy about it. The new spray-painted graffiti can only be seen as a reaction by those who want to prove to themselves and others that the improvement in relations is not going to happen. So the story of disappearing and reappearing “Death to America!” graffiti is bound to continue for some time.
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] Just months after a boom-mobile tore through a busy street outside the U.S. consulate in Erbil's Ankawa district, the State Department on July 30 issued an emergency warning to its citizens about another credible threat.
More than a year into the international fight against ISIS, sleeper cells operating in territory on the borders of the so-called Islamic State ...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not really Moslems.... appear to be an ever-growing threat. A jacket wallah targeted Kurdish activists on the Turkish border in July, while the U.S. consulate's warning points to the continued menace that ISIS factions still pose in Iraqi Kurdistan.
Thousands of Kurds are fighting ISIS in both Syria and Iraq, but Dr Tariq Nuri, director of the Erbil Asayish, or security service, said that hundreds have also joined the Islamists' ranks. Attacks by Kurdish cells within Iraqi Kurdistan hold a clear advantage for ISIS, he said. "They wanted to use Kurds because they can get past security more easily," he said.
Renad Mansour, a Kurdistan expert from the Carnegie Institute, said that in the past, security of the Kurdish territories had often focused on Arab hard boyz within majority Kurd areas. "Talking to members of the security apparatus, they would say, 'the Salafists ...Salafists are ostentatiously devout Moslems who figure the ostentation of their piety gives them the right to tell others how to do it and to kill those who don't listen to them... were Arab so they were easily spotted. We were able to get rid of Al-Qaeda [from Kurdistan] in Iraq because we could see them in the street'."
However, if you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning... the May 18 arrest of a Kurdish six-member ISIS cell shows that the threat that Kurdistan faces is by no means just an Arab one. While Mansour sees ISIS sympathizers as a small minority within Kurdish society, he outlined a "growing trend of Islamization" in Kurdistan -- a factor underlying ISIS sympathies. "This has led to people putting religion before ethnicity, which is quite new and strange in the Kurdish context," he added.
The promise of Islam, as was the promise of Christianity and Judaism before, is that of transcendence of tribe and ethnicity. Anyone, so long as he believes the core principles, can get in on the promise of everlasting life, just as equal as those born into it. In the case of Islam, of course, Arabs outrank other believers, and the Arabs of Saudi Arabia outrank lesser Arabs, but nobody tells the newbies/volunteer canon fodder about such critical complications to their longevity.
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Yep, not much mullah to prole footwashing in yur mosque.
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[JihadWatch] "British men and women, many in their teens, are being radicalised to the point of violence within weeks, MI5 warned yesterday." 
