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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Couple Beaten to Death in Bizarre Stop-Smoking Ritual
A couple from Malaysia was beaten to death Thursday in a bizarre stop-smoking ritual, Agence France-Presse reported.

Police spokesman Ku Chin Wah told the official Bernama news agency that Mohamed Ibrahim Kader Mydin, 47, and his wife Rosina Mydin Pillay, 41, sustained head injuries in a beating intended to cure them of smoking and other illnesses. The 15-year-old daughter of one of the four relatives who participated in the beating was also attacked and is fighting for her life in a hospital, according to AFP.

Police said that Mohamed Ibrahim asked family to help him kick his smoking habit, and confided in relatives that his wife was suffering from asthma and a liver ailment. "Following this, a 23-year-old male relative suggested that the couple undergo a ritual which involved all family members joining forces to beat up the couple to rid them of their ailments,'' Ku told Bernama. The couple's heads were smashed on tables and beaten with crash helmets and brooms.

It is believed one of the four suspects, who are now in police custody, belongs to a "deviant'' cult.
Well, it DID cure their smoking habit. And all other habits, good and bad.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/05/2008 15:45 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
France: Underground World War II caves found below Caen
The time capsule labyrinth lies deep below the Normandy city of Caen, which was all but destroyed by British guns around D-Day, June 6th 1944.

Largely undisturbed since, the makeshift bunkers still contain numerous reminders of a terrified population whose only thought at the time was survival. They include packed suitcases, tins of syrup, decaying maps and official passes, and even lady's make-up bags including nail varnish and lipstick. There are also children's magazines and toys, shoes, carbon lights, prayer books, and makeshift beds where people would try and rest despite the barrages.

Many spent more than a month deep below the constant shelling from Royal Navy ships and RAF bombing. Some 2000 died, with thousands more injured. Caen Memorial historian Marc Pottier said the lost world was a hugely moving testament to what ordinary people went through during the war.

He said: “During the summer of 1944 here, in Caen, 15,000 Caen refugees experienced some of the most terrible conditions imaginable. By visiting these galleries we can better understand what they went through.”

Despite what was happening up above, Caen University archaeologist Laurent Dujardin said the caves were well organised.

“The atmosphere is remarkably healthy - there's always a temperature of twelve degrees,” said Mr Dujardin.

Describing a cave accessed from a tiny manhole in a garden in Rue des Roches in the suburb of Mondeville, Mr Dujardin said: “On June 6th the first refugees arrived here. They stayed here until July 12th .

“In one cave alone there were between 500 and 600 people. Underneath the whole of Rue des Roches there were 5000 people. Each gallery is organised around a family enclosure.

“We only re-discovered this tunnel recently, and it is one of the most interesting.”

Many of the so-called 'carrières' were forged out of around 300 subterranean medieval quarries in Caen. The galleries - undoubtedly carved out of the soil by civilian and military diggers - are around 36 feet high and 300 feet longs, and divided into separate family units.

On D-Day Caen was the principal objective for the British 3rd Infantry Division and was the scene of intense fighting right up until August. The old city, including many buildings dating back to the Middle Ages, was largely destroyed, with 75 per cent of buildings reduced to rubble.

Reconstruction went on until 1962, with most of the underground shelters largely forgotten. Caen University hopes that at least some of the caves might one day be opened to members of the public.
Posted by: mrp || 10/05/2008 13:09 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Underground caves are the best kind, I hear...
Posted by: Andy Slaviger5074 || 10/05/2008 15:27 Comments || Top||

#2  This is interesting stuff. I've prowled some of the WWII and even WWI undergrounds that remain in Germany, under many of the Kasernes used by US forces.

Out of fear of booby traps, many of them just had their doors welded shut and were ignored. Every now and then they would find something interesting after opening one up.

For example, a farmers field had a collapse which unveiled an underground aircraft hanger, complete with aircraft, one of which had a human skeleton inside.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/05/2008 19:43 Comments || Top||

#3  nice subtle snark, Andy
Posted by: Frank G || 10/05/2008 19:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Wonder if there is a "Killroy was here" symbol anywhere about.
Posted by: GORT || 10/05/2008 21:26 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Biden's Mother-In-Law Dies
Vice presidential candidate Joe Biden's mother-in-law died Sunday afternoon, and the Obama campaign has canceled the Delaware senator's schedule through Tuesday, a spokesman said.

Jill Biden's mother after a long illness, said spokesman David Wade. "Other details will follow, but we appreciate everyone's respect for the family's privacy during this difficult time."
Posted by: Sherry || 10/05/2008 17:06 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So... will overpowering grief cause him to withdraw and allow Hillary to run?
Posted by: john frum || 10/05/2008 17:45 Comments || Top||

#2  That's not a very long mourning period, but if it was a long illness, her release may be a blessing for all.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/05/2008 18:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Probably worth 3 pts. in the polls. That's how dumb American's are considering the status of our public schools where teachers can come to school wearing Obama T's.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/05/2008 19:54 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Translated bible rocks Jharkhand assembly
RANCHI: Controversial lines in a translated version of the Bible in Jharkhand rocked the state assembly on Tuesday, leading to an assurance by the government that the book would be recalled. Chandresh Oraon, a Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) legislator, moved the motion to stop work in the assembly on Tuesday and demanded a debate on the lines in the translated Bible that call for destroying tribals' places of worship.

The book in Kuduk language, one of the main tribal languages in Jharkhand, has been brought out by the Bible Society of India (BSI). The translated version reportedly says: "Destroy the trees and Sarna (tribals' worship places)."

"BSI has done a criminal act by publishing such derogatory remarks in the translated Bible. This is a conspiracy against the tribal society.

"We seek a probe and action against the society for publishing the book which hurt the sentiments of the tribal," said Oraon.

The BJP tribal legislators came in the well of the house and shouted slogans like "Stop hurting tribal sentiments".

Inder Singh Namdhari, former assembly speaker and independent legislator, said: "No one has the right to hurt the sentiment of any religion. Government should take suitable action on the issue."

Deputy Chief Minister Stephen Marandi said: "We admit the fault. Wrong translation of Bible has been done by BSI. The state government will recall the translated version of the book and take suitable action against the publisher," he added. Marandi, however, did not clarify what action would be taken against the publishers.

The BJP legislators were not satisfied with the reply and they shouted slogans. They demanded action against the publisher. The Congress legislators alleged that the BJP was politicising the issue.

A deep resentment is prevailing among the tribal scholars on the issue. Tribal scholars demanded suitable action against the publishers. "The Christian missionaries have no right to hurt the sentiment of the tribal people. The issue could take a volatile shape if such things take place," said Karma Oraon, a tribal scholar.

On Monday, 11 tribals were arrested in Ranchi for trying to burn the copies of the Bible.

Less than a year back, another book published by the society had insulted a local freedom fighter. The issue was also raised in the state assembly.
Posted by: john frum || 10/05/2008 11:54 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Relatives ransack hospital after youth dies
CHANDRAPUR: Incenced over the death of a young boy, his relatives thrashed a doctor and ransacked his hospital in Warora on Friday night.

As per details, Shwetal Narde (19) from Ram Mandir ward, reportedly suffering from high fever and queasiness, was admitted at Dr Pradeep Parate’s hospital on Thursday night. After tests, the patient was diagnosed to be suffering from jaundice.

Dr Parate directed Narde’s family members to take him to Nagpur or Sevagram for emergency treatment by 5 pm. However, they did not comply with the advice and Narde breathed his last around 9 pm.

Irked over the death, around 20 persons ,mostly relatives of the deceased, ransacked the hospital and thrashed Dr Parate. Earlier, Shobha Narde, mother of the deceased, lodged a complaint with Warora police station alleging medical negligence. In a counter complaint filed by Dr Parate, he has estimated loss of Rs 16,000.

The post-mortem was performed by doctors from Chandrapur civil hospital under camera. Heavy police force was deployed at sub-district hospital, Warora as a huge mob had gathered there while post-mortem was underway.

Similar incident in Akola: The brother of a woman and other relatives ransacked the district hospital for women in Akola on Friday night following the death of a newborn due to alleged negligence of the doctor. Usha Deshmukh of Bhod village gave birth to a baby boy on September 30 at the hospital.

However, the infant died on Friday evening. Sachin Deshmukh, the maternal uncle of the infant, his relative and colleagues, vented their anger against the doctor and broke the furnitures and window panes. Resident medical officer Dr R H Khatri was badly beaten up by the relatives of the dead infant. The relatives were already informed about the deteriorating health of the newborn and doctors attending took care but unfortunately the infant died, hospital sources said. tnn
Posted by: john frum || 10/05/2008 08:35 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let's not just throw rocks at Indians. I'd bet, if Dr. Steve was willing to talk, he's either seen or heard of such threats/actions in American hospitals. I've read of numerous cases in which gang members have come into E.R.s with bullet-riddled accomplices and told the attending medical personnel that they would either save said accomplice or die themselves.

People doing such things are simply displaying the logic that Heinlein explained when he said that any sufficiently advanced technology was like magic. All these gun-waving boneheads know is that hospitals contain the magic of healing people, and that if their friend/relative/loved one isn't saved it's because the people who work there just weren't willing to do what was necessary.

Ignorance, stupidity and fear are a damned dangerous combination of elements, the mixing of which almost invariably leads to violence.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 || 10/05/2008 10:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Let's not just throw rocks at Indians.

Hunh? This is from the Times of India. If any one is throwing rocks, it's the Indians.

I've read of numerous cases in which gang members have come into E.R.s with bullet-riddled accomplices and told the attending medical personnel that they would either save said accomplice or die themselves.

I won't say you haven't, though I haven't, but given the prevalence of EMS, fire and police personnel in ERs, I suspect the thugs would be nominated for Idiot of the Day by their fellow Americans here at the burg.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/05/2008 11:02 Comments || Top||

#3  I suspect the thugs would be nominated for Idiot of the Day by their fellow Americans here at the burg.

Of course they're benighted fools, N.S. as are the Indians doing the same thing. I'm just saying that this isn't solely an Indian phenomenon. Actions like this come about when un-or ill-educated people encounter problems with advanced technologies they have no way to understand.

The British, when they were running refineries in Iran for the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, found they had to buy solid gearwheels as opposed to the regular, skeletonized type. Seems the locals kept getting seriously injured by sticking hands and feet in them because when the gearwheel was spinning at speed they couldn't see anything but the outer ring.

Since they couldn't see the supporting spokes, their logic assumed they had disappeared and no amount of persuasion/argument/explanation by the British seemed to sink in. In the end, it was just easier to buy solid gearwheels.
Posted by: Jolutch Mussolini7800 || 10/05/2008 11:25 Comments || Top||

#4 
Both cities are in (very roughly) the same region of India.  Perhaps our John Frum might have insight into whether that is coincidental.
Posted by: lotp || 10/05/2008 11:26 Comments || Top||

#5  Saw a couple situations at the County, usually rival gang-bangers put too close to each other in the Trauma Unit. Even with holes in them they had to display how they were muy macho. But we had good security -- I had no idea a sheriff's deputy could be that big -- so the docs, nurses and students never were touched.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/05/2008 15:26 Comments || Top||

#6  I don't know if India has the problem of retardation and physical handicaps due to marriage of close relatives but I wouldn't be surprised if this were a consideration in these incidents.
Posted by: Lionel Jiger8451 || 10/05/2008 23:30 Comments || Top||


Mob attacks cops, journalists after road mishap
KOLKATA: A mob fought a pitched battle with police for nearly two hours in the Charu Market area late on Saturday night after a speeding bus overturned while trying to overtake another. The incident occurred just as Panchami pandal hoppers were hitting the streets.

While 14 people were injured in the accident, five policemen were hurt in the streetfight. Police say the relative of a south Kolkata MLA and some local gangsters were behind the attack. Police suspect some of the attackers were part of the mob that had lynched the bodyguard of the Charu Market OC during the 2005 Gobindapur Railway Colony evacuation.

The mob set fire to five police vehicles, attacked policemen, stormed into Charu Market police station and ransacked it. RAF was called in, but the mob refused to back down. A volley of tear gas shells and a lathicharge finally broke up the fight.

Two buses on routes 1B and 18B, headed for Tollygunge Phanri, were locked in a high-speed race from the Rashbehari Avenue crossing, said Sailen Ghosh, a local resident, who was on the 18B bus. Near Tollygunge rail bridge, the 1B bus tried to overtake the other. The 18B driver pushed to the right and the other driver also instinctively turned right, hitting the divider and turning turtle.

Local residents smashed the windows and started rescuing trapped passengers. “Only two seemed seriously injured,” said Apu Chakroborty, one of the rescuers. Police rushed to the spot and took the injured to MR Bangur Hospital.

Everything seemed back to normal when a mob suddenly descended on the streets around 9.30 pm. As one group blocked traffic, the other stormed the police station. Several policemen were beaten up and vehicles set on fire. Even mediapersons were assaulted.

Outnumbered and taken by surprise, police were on the back foot for over an hour. Later, reinforced by a RAF team, they fought back with tear gas and lathis. Some shopkeepers were apparently beaten up in the melee. It was well past 11 pm when traffic resumed.
Posted by: john frum || 10/05/2008 08:32 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Even mediapersons were assaulted."

So there is a silver lining.... :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/05/2008 13:30 Comments || Top||


I can identify the culprits, says nun
While demanding justice, the nun who was allegedly raped in Orissa's riot-hit Kandhamal district has claimed that she can identify the culprits. The nun alleged that some men had dragged her out from a Hindu household where she was hiding. "...Two men were holding my hand, one raped me," she told CNN-IBN from an "undisclosed location."

Seeks justice
She demanded justice not only for herself "but for the sake of the people she was working with."

The nun appealed to the State government for ensuring protection to the people of Kandhamal and said the situation had been bad for far too long.

Police inaction
Blaming the police for inaction, she claimed that when she was being taken towards the market, the policemen present there failed to protect her. She alleged that "...they were sitting like stones. They did not talk or move."

She has left Orissa after the incident and is not sure whether she will return to Kandhamal.
Posted by: Fred || 10/05/2008 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm still waiting for the mass demonstrations on the country's campuses protesting this illegal war./sarcasm off

Oh, let's throw in a Hollyweird movie about the brutal barbaric behavior of the troops towards the local population. /sarcasm off
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/05/2008 8:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh I'm sure hollywierd would be more then willing to produce this - and the 'feminist' organizations as well.... As long as the soldiers wear U.S. uniforms.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/05/2008 9:54 Comments || Top||



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Sun 2008-10-05
  Baitullah makes appearance amid reports of his death
Sat 2008-10-04
  US drone strikes kill 20 in North Waziristan
Fri 2008-10-03
  'Biggest suspect' in ship piracy arrested
Thu 2008-10-02
  U.S. Begins Transferring Sunni Militias to Iraqi Government
Wed 2008-10-01
  Baitullah reported titzup
Tue 2008-09-30
  ISI chief, four corps commanders changed
Mon 2008-09-29
  At least six dead in Tripoli kaboom
Sun 2008-09-28
  Sudan desert chase 'n gunfight kills 6 kidnappers
Sat 2008-09-27
  Car boom kills 17 in Damascus
Fri 2008-09-26
  Shots fired in US-Pakistan clash
Thu 2008-09-25
  NKor bans nuke inspectors
Wed 2008-09-24
  Five Indian Mujaheddin nabbed in Mumbai
Tue 2008-09-23
  Livni asked to form a new government
Mon 2008-09-22
  Up to 15 tourists kidnapped in Egypt
Sun 2008-09-21
  2 Delhi blasts suspects banged


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