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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Feds Refuse To Permit Legal Activity Despite SCOTUS Decision
The U.S. Forest Service said Wednesday it was withholding snowmaking permits for a northern Arizona ski resort as a way to promote settlement talks in a long-running dispute between American Indian tribes and the resort's owners. The permits were delayed despite a U.S. Supreme Court decision in June that upheld the Arizona Snowbowl's right to spray man-made snow on San Francisco Peaks. In addition, Snowbowl owner Eric Borowsky said talks aimed at reaching a deal had ended a month ago.

"So far, there have been no new ideas, so we're just waiting for the notice to proceed," he said.

The stalemate marks the latest development in the dispute in which tribes insist making snow with waste water would desecrate land they hold sacred and infringe on their religious beliefs. Snowbowl officials counter the man-made snow is necessary to ensure the survival of the ski area, which opened in 1937 on Forest Service land and has struggled with short seasons because of a lack of snow.

Sen. John McCain and other members of the Arizona congressional delegation have been pressuring the Forest Service for months to explain why the permits haven't been issued. The Forest Service said in a brief prepared statement that it hoped ongoing talks between the tribes and the Snowbowl's owners would end in a mutually beneficial agreement.

"Ongoing conversations between Native-American tribes and the ski area operator may resolve outstanding concerns for the more controversial aspects of the Snow bowl improvement request," the statement said. The U.S. Department of Agriculture, which oversees the Forest Service, did not answer several phone calls seeking additional comment.

Borowsky said his talks with Navajo President Joe Shirley Jr. have ended and no further discussions were planned. Even so, he said he expects to have the necessary permits "in the very near future."

The Forest Service is allowing the Arizona Snowbowl Limited Partnership to move forward with plans for conveyor belts to take skiers up the beginner slopes. Other improvements, however, including clearing about 100 additional acres of forest at the 777-acre resort, remain on hold. Boronsky's talks with tribes included a possible sale of the resort. He maintained Snowbowl is not for sale but added he has an obligation as a general partner to present any valid offers to the limited partners for a vote. The current owners purchased the Snowbowl in 1992 for $4 million. Any sale price could be much higher.

Navajo lawmaker Raymond Maxx said he and other tribal lawmakers were encouraged by the Forest Service's delay in granting permits.

"We're glad that there are some people that are still respectful of our native culture within the United States and trying to help us preserve what's sacred to us," he said. McCain, Sen. Jon Kyl, and Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick said the USDA is simply dragging its feet in permitting the improvements upheld by the courts.

"There doesn't appear to be any defined point when the USDA will move forward," said McCain spokeswoman Brooke Buchanan.

A pending lawsuit in federal court in Arizona seeks to halt the project, saying the Forest Service failed to consider the human health risks of ingesting artificial snow.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/26/2009 08:29 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Help me here. What's the difference between artificial snow and the real thing? Preservatives? Dihydrogen Monoxide?

Having skied on both, I prefer 'real', but didn't notice a warning label on the artificial flakes.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 11/26/2009 13:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Don't laugh. Dihydrogen Monoxide can be fatal if not handled properly.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/26/2009 15:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Nothing but liberals being liberals when the system has returned the "wrong" result. They're above the law, they don't follow the law.
Posted by: gromky || 11/26/2009 15:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Mullah, it's not that it's artificial. The tribes could care less about that. What they are upset about is that it is recycled waste water, and they want to keep possible frozen pee off their sacred mountain.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 11/26/2009 16:16 Comments || Top||

#5  and they want to keep possible frozen pee off their sacred mountain.

The are they planning to kill all the sacred animals on their sacred mountain to keep their pee off the ground?

False argunemt, Pee is superb plant food.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/26/2009 19:49 Comments || Top||


Six charged in town hall disturbance
Six people arrested in August outside a raucous town hall meeting in south St. Louis County have been charged with misdemeanor ordinance violations.

The six, including a Post-Dispatch reporter, had attended a demonstration outside an Aug. 6 forum called by U.S. Rep. Russ Carnahan, D-St. Louis, at Bernard Middle School in Mehlville to discuss health care reform.

The charges were filed Tuesday by the St. Louis County counselor's office, which prosecutes misdemeanor ordinance violations in unincorporated areas. All are to appear in court Jan. 21. The maximum penalty upon conviction would be one year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Some bloggers have been writing for months about the lag between the arrests at the politically-charged event and the filing of charges.

County Counselor Patricia Redington insisted it had nothing to do with politics, influence or pressure from any official. "These charges are like the 90,000 other charges we file each year," she said.

Post-Dispatch reporter Jake Wagman, 30, of University City, was charged with interfering with a police officer. The charges allege that he failed to obey repeated commands "to leave the site of an ongoing disturbance."

Elston McCowan, 47, of St. Louis, and Perry Molens, 50, of De Soto, each were charged with assaulting a person and interfering with police. They are accused of scuffling with and injuring Kenneth Gladney in a clash of opinions over the Democrats' universal health care proposals.

Javonne Spitz, 51, of O'Fallon, Mo., and Brian Matthews, 34, of Glendale, also were charged with interfering with an officer. Cheryl Johner, 55, of Arnold, was charged with assaulting a person and destruction of property for allegedly pushing another woman and breaking her cell phone.

Ordinance violation charges are usually filed within four to six weeks of an incident, Reddington said, but this case involved interviews with dozens of witnesses and review of many videos posted on the Internet.

Post-Dispatch Editor Arnie Robbins issued a statement Wednesday that said, "Jake was covering a newsworthy incident. He was not in the way or interfering with the police. His press credentials were fully displayed. The charge is unfounded and will be challenged in court."

Reached about his own case, Molens said, "These charges are ridiculous." He added, "All I was doing was coming to the help of a friend. I don't know what evidence they're basing this on."

Molens said McCowan, who could not be reached for comment, was defending himself and he was defending McCowan. "I'll plead not guilty," Molens said. "I didn't do anything."

Said Spitz, another defendant, "I'm surprised. ... And right before Thanksgiving, real nice."

Gladney, 39, of St. Louis, who police said had been assaulted, said a call from a reporter Wednesday was the first he had heard of the charges. "I'm shocked it took this long," he said.

He said he believes the crime against him should be prosecuted as a felony. "I'm mad as I-don't-know-what about this," Gladney said. "It seems like average people can't get justice."
Posted by: Fred || 11/26/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wasn't sure if the charges were against the Tea Party people or SEIU, but looks like the latter. For now.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/26/2009 0:50 Comments || Top||

#2  His press credentials were fully displayed.

In other words, he had carte blanche to do whatever he wanted as a member of the media, and the EVIL police held him to the same standards of behavior as one of the little people. Disgraceful.
Posted by: gromky || 11/26/2009 2:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Be accused of punching a terrorist you capture and get a General Courts Martial. Thump a man in clear sight, with video, and get a misdemeanor charge. Great being a member of the Inner Party. /sarc off
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/26/2009 9:41 Comments || Top||

#4  there were dozens of witnesses including police and clear video taken. They beat a black man to the ground and called him a "nigg*r". A misdemeanor? really?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/26/2009 10:34 Comments || Top||

#5 
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 11/26/2009 13:22 Comments || Top||


Judge Denies Request For Baltimore Mayor Mistrial
Defense attorneys for Mayor Sheila Dixon renewed their request for a mistrial today, saying the 27 hours of jury deliberations that have passed so far shows that the theft and embezzlement case against her is too confusing.

After hearing arguments from both sides, Judge Dennis M. Sweeney rejected the mistrial request at about 11:15 a.m.

As the request was being considered, the jury delivered its first substantive note in more than a day. Juror No. 11 asked for a transcript of testimony from three key witnesses in the case: developer Patrick Turner; and two city employees who received gift cards from the mayor, Edward Anthony and Mary Pat Fannon. Turner bought gift cards and delivered them to City Hall at the mayor's request, prosecutors say. Anthony (a housing department employee who is the mayor's boyfriend) and Fannon received one gift card each from the mayor, according to testimony.

Dixon is accused of stealing gift cards intended for needy families.

Her defense attorneys objected to what they called a slippery slope of allowing the jury review testimony, with attorney Dale P. Kelberman asking "are we going to watch the State v. Dixon movie?"

Prosecutors, however, had no problem with the court providing video recordings of the testimony on a DVD. Sweeney called for a brief recess, and said he wanted to examine whether it would be "technologically possible" to provide such a recording to the testimony.

In asking for a mistrial, Kelberman said the jury has "an impossible task" and must play the roles of "legal" and "Talmudic" scholars. Kelberman noted that some counts against Dixon were dismissed in the middle of the trial, meaning they could be confused by what evidence is admisable.
Posted by: Fred || 11/26/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Baltimorons are too corrupt to deliver a reasonable verdict. Were it not so close to Washington, Baltimore would be the Detroit of the east.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/26/2009 9:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Her defense attorneys objected to what they called a slippery slope of allowing the jury review testimony, with attorney Dale P. Kelberman asking "are we going to watch the State v. Dixon movie?"

Ima thinkrn Dale P. Kelberman, Esq., deserves a Thanksgiving beatdown for saying the jury shouldn't be allowed to review testimony. What a piece of shit. But then who better to represent a piece of shit?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/26/2009 9:58 Comments || Top||


The culture of corruption.
Somebody spent a lot of time putting this together

Each with a proof site to click on...
Unbelievable! But, does it surprise you?

$34,000:
The amount of federal taxes that Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner (D) failed to pay during his employment at the International Monetary Fund despite receiving extra compensation and explanatory brochures that described his
tax liabilities. True.

$75,000:
The amount of money that the head of the powerful tax-writing committee, Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-NY), was forced to report on his taxes after the discovery that he had not reported income from a Dominican Republic rental property. His excuses for the failure started with blaming his wife, then his accountant and finally the fact that he didn't speak Spanish. True.

$93,000:
The INCREASE in the amount of petty cash each of our Congressional representatives voted to give themselves in January 2009 during the height of an economic meltdown. That's a $40 + million INCREASE! True.

$133,900:
The amount Fannie Mae "invested" in Chris Dodd (D-CT), head of the powerful Senate Banking Committee, presumably to repel oversight of the GSE prior to its meltdown. Said meltdown helped touch off the current economic crisis. In only a few years time, Fannie also "invested" over $105,000 in then-Senator Barack Obama. True.

$140,000:
The amount of back taxes and interest that Cabinet nominee Tom Daschle (D) was forced to cough up after the vetting process revealed significant, unexplained tax liabilities. True.

$356,000:
The approximate amount of income and deductions that Tom Daschle (D) was forced to report on his amended 2005 and 2007 tax returns after being caught cheating on his taxes. This includes $255,256 for the use of a car service, $83, 33 3 in unreported income, and $14,963 in charitable contributions. True.

$800,000:
The amount of "sweetheart" mortgages Senate Banking Chairman Chris Dodd (D-CT) received from Countrywide Financial, the details for which he has refused to release details despite months of promises to do so. Countrywide was once the nation's largest mortgage lender and linked to Government-Sponsored Entities like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Their meltdown precipitated the current financial crisis. Just days ago in Pennsylvania , Countrywide was forced to pay $150,000,000 in mortgage assistance following "a state investigation that concluded that Countrywide relaxed its underwriting standards to sell risky loans to consumers who did not understand them and could not afford them." True.

$1,000,000:
The estimated amount of donations by Denise Rich, wife of fugitive Marc Rich, to Democrat interests and the William J. Clinton Foundation in an apparent quid pro quo deal that resulted in a pardon for Mr. Rich. The pardon was reviewed and blessed by Obama Attorney General and then Deputy AG Eric Holder, despite numerous requests by government officials to turn it down. True.

$12,000,000:
The amount of TARP money provided to community bank One United despite the fact that it did not qualify for funds, and was "under attack from its regulators for allegations of poor lending practices and executive-pay abuses." It turns out that Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA), a key contributor to the Fannie Mae meltdown, just happens to be married to one of the bank's former directors. True.

$23,500,000:
The upper range of net worth Rep. Allan Mollohan (D-WV) accumulated in four years time according to The Washington Post through earmarks of "tens of millions of dollars to groups associated with his own business partners." True.

$2,000,000,000:
($2 billion) the approximate amount of money that House Appropriations Chairman David Obey (D-WI) is earmarking related to his son's lobbying efforts. The son, Craig Obey, is "a top lobbyist for the nonprofit group" that would receive a roughly $2 billion component of the "Stimulus" package. True. And this as a list of these related stories.

$3,700,000,000:
($3.7 billion) not to be outdone, this is the estimated value of various defense contracts awarded to a company controlled by the husband of Rep. Diane Feinstein (D-CA). Despite an obvious conflict-of-interest as "a member of the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee, Sen. Feinstein voted for appropriations worth billions to her husband's firms." True.

$4,190,000,000:
($4.19 billion) the amount of money in the so-called "Stimulus" package devoted to fraudulent voter registration ACORN group under the auspices of "Community Stabilization Activities". ACORN is currently the subject of a RICO suit in Ohio. True.

$1,646,000,000,000 ($1.646 trillion):
The approximate amount of annual United States exports endangered by the "Stimulus" package, which provides a "Buy American" stricture. According to international trade experts, a "US-EU trade war looms" which could result in a worldwide economic depression reminiscent of that touched off by the protectionist Smoot-Hawley Act. True and true.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/26/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Doesn't matter. It's all Bush's fault.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/26/2009 0:57 Comments || Top||

#2  "The Public Trough" comes to mind.

"Whorehouse" is another word that trips lightly off the dripping tongue when one thinks of democrats in Congress.

Its all Bush's fault.

These are the best men the democrats have to represent them....besides Edwards for Vice. And Kerry for Leadership in Combat.

yeah....lead the nation. And these men make our Laws. And Obama is all for the HopeNchange thingy.

How would you like to give Pelosi a hug and shake hands with Senator Reid? They are your friends, right? real folks.

How 'bout we spraypaint their heads with DayGlo and glue their eyes shut with SuperGlue and dump them buck naked on the LA Freeway at night?
Posted by: Angleton9 || 11/26/2009 4:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Let's don't, Angleton9. They might catch a chill.
Posted by: trailing wife in Buffalo || 11/26/2009 8:03 Comments || Top||

#4  It appears that the MD (Mod 'O the Day) has a problem with Day-Glo paint....?
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/26/2009 11:14 Comments || Top||

#5  Day-Glo is okay. Superglued eyes and being dumped on the freeway is a little much.

AoS
Posted by: Steve White || 11/26/2009 12:01 Comments || Top||

#6  How about some jail time?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 11/26/2009 12:42 Comments || Top||

#7  Nah. If Angelton9 does it again, he'll just get the ban-hammer.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/26/2009 12:52 Comments || Top||

#8  #7 HEH!!! Comment Of The Day, Pappy. Good one.
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper || 11/26/2009 13:13 Comments || Top||

#9  #7 HEH!!! Comment Of The Day, Pappy. Good one.
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper || 11/26/2009 13:13 Comments || Top||

#10  HEY!!!!!!! I go the "Forbidden" message thingy . . . . and then it posts twice. Sheesh, I might as well go back to the golf shot.
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper || 11/26/2009 13:15 Comments || Top||

#11  It appears that the MD (Mod 'O the Day) has a problem with Day-Glo paint....?

It's called propriety.
Posted by: badanov || 11/26/2009 13:34 Comments || Top||

#12  Uh, I meant Chris Dodd, not Angleton9. But if you could get Dodd ban-hammered from the Senate, that'd be cool.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 11/26/2009 17:46 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Sen. Conrad Suggests That People Who Don't Believe in Civilian Trials for Terrorists Should Leave America and 'Go Somewhere Else'
(CNSNews.com) -- Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) told CNSNews.com that civilian courts are well-suited to prosecute al Qaeda terrorists and that "if people don't believe in our system, maybe they ought to go somewhere else."

Conrad also dismissed a question about the rights of terrorists captured on foreign battlefields and the rules of evidence in terms of a civilian court trial as not serious.

Attorney General Eric Holder announced on Nov. 13 that five suspects in the 9/11 attacks would be tried in a civilian court in New York City instead of facing a military trial.

On Capitol Hill on Nov. 19, CNSNews.com asked Conrad: "We're going to have a civilian trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. If our troops--the evidence against him is going to be found in Afghanistan, there on the battlefield--if our troops need to enter a house and they think that there's evidence there, should they have to establish probable cause and get a search warrant from a judge first?"

Conrad said: "You're not being serious about these questions, are you?"
Posted by: Fred || 11/26/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  if people don't believe in our system, maybe they ought to go somewhere else

I guess OJ Simpson will be staying put.
Posted by: gorb || 11/26/2009 0:18 Comments || Top||

#2  North Dakota - The last time they voted for a Dem for President was in 1964, and the time before that, in 1936. Conrad's been skating by in ND, but can't hide from a remark like this... ND Presidential vote in 100 years : GOP 21 Dem 4. His senate seat might FINALLY be in jeopardy if the GOP can find someone decent.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/26/2009 7:55 Comments || Top||

#3  "if people don't believe in our system, maybe they ought to go somewhere else."

One set of rules for me, another set of rules for thee.

It's 1859 and they don't know what time it is.

Our system is the Constitution that you have the problem with Senator. It provides for separate laws, civilian and military. For over two hundred years the military system as seen a both functional and adequate to deal with enemy combatants. Enough so, that when SCOTUS wanted a change to the process a couple years back, Congress provided the changes with incredible swiftness that retained the process in the military side of the house. So maybe everyone in Congress needs to go somewhere else.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/26/2009 9:39 Comments || Top||

#4  "if people don't believe in our system, maybe they ought to go somewhere else."

That's the problem: it's our - meaning, your - system, not the actual system we're all used to. How is this clown from a respectable state like North Dakota.

Oh, hold on: I'm from Nevada. I can answer this question myself.
Posted by: Secret Master || 11/26/2009 13:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Have some more Kool-Aid, Senator?
Posted by: Oregon Doodle || 11/26/2009 13:44 Comments || Top||

#6  What a doofus.
Posted by: newc || 11/26/2009 14:12 Comments || Top||


Climate Change Legislation Would Slow Economy, Says Congressional Budget Office
(CNSNews.com) -- The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released a report on Monday saying that the climate change legislation being considered by Congress could reduce the purchasing power of the middle class and shrink or slow the economy.

The report, "The Costs of Reducing Greenhouse-Gas Emissions," says market-based regulations such as a cap and trade scheme would boost the cost of emission-intensive activities. In turn, household incomes would shrink along with consumer consumption and savings, real wages would fall, the supply of labor would shrink, and economic investments would be discouraged because of rising production costs.

In general, with cap and trade, the government would set a ceiling (cap) on how much carbon a company could emit during its production process. If a company's emissions went above that cap, it could purchase (trade) carbon credits, the proceeds of which would be redistributed by the government to help foster more environmentally friendly companies.

The House of Representatives passed H.R. 2454, the American Clean Energy and Security (ACES) Act, in June. The Demcrats' bill would create a system of carbon allowances that become more costly over time. The goal is to reduce CO2 emissions 80 percent by 2050 (compared with 2005 levels).

The Senate has not yet approved a climate change bill.

The CBO said if the House bill is enacted, it could shrink real Gross Domestic Product up to 3.5 percent by 2050. The "CBO concluded that H.R. 2454 would slightly reduce real GDP--by roughly 0.25 percent to 0.75 percent in 2020 and by between 1.0 percent and 3.5 percent in 2050," reads the report.

The Gross Domestic Product is the total market value of all goods and services in the United States over any year.
Posted by: Fred || 11/26/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This Congressional Report is inconsequential as,
A. Congress does not read any bills or reports,
B. Congress never heard of the Univerity of East Anglia leaked e-mails,
C. Congress as presently constituted will not listening to anyone or anybody at all who is not a Democrat,
D. Congress is playing Monopoly with the US Economy and "Carbon Trading" is the new "Park Place"
Posted by: Woozle Snonter2414 || 11/26/2009 6:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Happy Thanksgiving to all the Global Warming advocates out there. The menu this year consists of one really big turkey, well cooked results, and for desert - fudged data. Enjoy!
Posted by: DMFD || 11/26/2009 11:56 Comments || Top||


Pelosi says Americans could 'absorb' increased deficit if it means more jobs
Americans could be ready to "absorb" increases to the deficit if it means higher employment, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Tuesday.
'Absorb' means leave it to the grandkids ...
As the Congress prepares to put together a new spending package focused on creating new jobs in the U.S., the Speaker said that while it's a "false choice" to pose the situation facing lawmakers as a balance between jobs and increased deficits, Americans would rather have jobs.

"So if somebody has the idea that the percentage of GDP of what our national debt is will go up a bit, but they will now -- and their neighbors and their children will -- have jobs, I think they could absorb that," Pelosi said in a conference call with liberal bloggers on Tuesday, audio of which was posted by ThinkProgress.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) has said that the lower chamber hopes to move a jobs package by the Christmas holiday recess. Democrats have begun exploring different options for creating jobs, especially as unemployment continues to rise while 2010, an election year for lawmakers, quickly approaches.
Oh, a jobs package! I got one:

1) make the 2002 and 2003 income tax cuts permanent
2) pass a 3 month holiday on personal tax withholding
3) stop the stimulus spending right now
4) don't pass the health care bill
5) don't pass the cap and tax bill
6) allow energy companies to drill for oil here at home and off our shores
7) start construction of 200 nuclear powered electrical generating stations
8) sell federal shares/warrants of banks, GM, Chrysler to highest bidder
9) convert all public employee pension funds to defined contributions plans
10) return all TARP funds to the Treasury

There. That oughta do it.
Pelosi said deficit growth has been "stunning," but rejected the idea that a jobs bill would necessarily pose a threat to the deficit.

"We don't subscribe to the idea that some are for deficit reduction and some are for job creation; we think, again, as I said at the beginning, that's a false choice," she said. "We're never going to decrease the deficit until we create jobs, bring revenue into the Treasury, stimulate the economy so we have growth."

The Speaker said Democrats must also "shed any weakness" about being confrontational on the issue out of fear that the party would be labeled as insensitive to the deficit.

Pelosi suggested, too, that if lawmakers are reluctant to spend for job creation, similar problems that plagued the U.S. during the Great Depression may strike again.

"If we pull our punch, as they did in the mid-'30s, we shouldn't be surprised if history repeats itself," she explained.
FDR didn't pull his punches, that was the problem. The more he and Hoover meddled, the worse things got.
"It's a very important debate for us to have in this country, and I would hope that the president's speech would be a balance between job creation and sensitive to deficit reduction," Pelosi added. "But I think if anybody is asked in the public, 'Would you rather have a job or a percentage of GDP or our national debt will go up a little bit?,' I think everybody wants a job."
Posted by: Fred || 11/26/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  All government spending is at it's heart a transfer. This will destroy jobs when the effects of the taxation to fund it are netted out.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 11/26/2009 5:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Wow - she truly believes that government can fix anything simply by throwing more money at her friends it.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/26/2009 6:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Resistance is futile.
Posted by: Uncle Borg || 11/26/2009 11:15 Comments || Top||


Sanders could back effort to 'scale down' health bill
A effort to "scale down" the Senate's healthcare reform bill could make it easier for Democrats to garner the 60 votes needed to pass the legislation, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said late Tuesday.

The self-described democratic socialist said that stripping away nonessential provisions of the bill could be another alternative to ensure the bill's passage along with the long-discussed budget reconciliation process. "Maybe [we should] scale down what we are trying to do and see if we can get 60 votes," Sanders said on MSNBC Tuesday night.
Bernie just wants to the get the camel's nose under the tent ...
A pared-down bill would have to include, a "significant" expansion of Medicaid, a greater focus on primary healthcare and growth of community health centers and measures to reduce the costs of prescription drugs.

"Maybe we can get 60 votes with that," Sanders added.

The first-term senator has long supported passing the bill via the budget reconciliation process, which would allow senators to pass through procedural motions by simply majority vote instead of the 60 votes needed under conventional rules.

A handful of centrist Democratic senators have threatened to vote against final cloture on the Senate's $849 billion health bill should the final product not meet their demands.

Sens. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.) and Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman, who caucuses with the Democrats, have said they would not vote for a final bill with a government-run public health insurance option included in it.

Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) has said he could not vote for a final bill with the existing abortion language included, which he thinks does not do enough to prevent federal funds from paying for abortions. Nelson has also expressed skepticism about the public option.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), however, was able to marshal 60 Democratic votes to clear the bill over its first procedural hurdle on Saturday night. But with 60 Democratic caucus members, Reid has no margin for error on further votes.
Posted by: Fred || 11/26/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bernie IS the camel's nose.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 11/26/2009 6:13 Comments || Top||

#2  that's not a nose
Posted by: Frank G || 11/26/2009 22:10 Comments || Top||


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Feinstein: Whether Osama bin Laden Should be Read Miranda Rights is a 'Murky Area'
(CNSNews.com) -- Would U.S. troops have to read Osama bin Laden his Miranda rights if and when they capture him? It's a "murky area," Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) told CNSNews.com. She said Americans should trust the judgment of Attorney General Eric Holder who, unlike his predecessors, is"not blemished in any way."

Under U.S. law, a person who is arrested or placed in legal custody must be told his Miranda rights, which usually read as follows: "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say or do can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to you. Do you understand these rights as they have been read to you?"

CNSNews.com asked Feinstein on Nov. 19, "Attorney General Holder said it wouldn't matter whether or not -- when we caught bin Laden -- whether or not he was Mirandized. Do you think we should Mirandize him, if we're going to try him in civilian court as the attorney general suggested?"

Senator Feinstein said: "As far as I'm concerned, the Mirandizing is a kind of murky area. We're looking into it with some specificity and I'm going to take the word of the attorney general right now."
Posted by: Fred || 11/26/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Murky == "Haven't figured out a way to cover our a$$ on this oversight yet"
Posted by: gorb || 11/26/2009 0:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Remember when they caught Che Guevara alive?

And they came in with pistols and the cigar dropped out of his mouth when he suddenly realized what they were going to do?

Surprise , surprise.

Yeah.

It isnt really that hard to shoot people, especially if they dont have a gun themselves and cant get out of the room . Its even easier when they are tied up in the trunk of a car.

Lumumba, remember him? He was snuffed in the trunk.

Another old trick is slash his tire outside in the parking lot and when he comes out to examine it and bends over....( come over to help) two in the back of the head with a small caliber pistol.
Not a lot of noise, works like a charm.
Take his keys, put him in the trunk and use his car. 37F at the airport is nice.

Wear gloves.
Posted by: Angleton9 || 11/26/2009 3:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Do you really think in this atmosphere anyone with live ammo in their weapon is going to take OBL alive? Do you really believe that anyone in the chain of command is going to press a Courts Martial against the trigger puller? [Yes, I've read the SITREP on the SEALS] I say the latter because, yes today you could Courts Martial the lad, and years from now be before a Senatorial Committee and be looking at the newly elected Senator from a state, that had a population of far more intelligent voters than you can imagine, that once was that trigger puller or one of his buddies. Payback is a mother.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/26/2009 9:32 Comments || Top||

#4  #3 Do you really think in this atmosphere anyone with live ammo in their weapon is going to take OBL alive? Procopius2k

Good point. There does seem to be a dramatic decline in prisoner taking of late.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/26/2009 9:35 Comments || Top||

#5  I do believe this admin would court martial the trigger puller if they shot Bin LA den
Posted by: chris || 11/26/2009 9:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Mr Angleton

Che Geuevara used to volunteer for torturing people. His captors were far nicer to him than he ever was when he had the upper hand.
Posted by: JFM || 11/26/2009 10:55 Comments || Top||

#7  Many, many years ago when Secret Master was young and a romantic adventurer, I dated the neice of Mario Terán: the man who infamously shot Che Guevara. (And what an interesting girl she was.) Her family has a very, very different version of his death than the official one: a version that involved Che begging for his life and offering to turn in his "commrads."

Just saying.
Posted by: Secret Master || 11/26/2009 12:05 Comments || Top||

#8  That's the story I read. As I recall Che's last words were something on the order of, "don't kill me, I'm worth more to you alive."

The Bolivians knew better, of course, and shot him.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/26/2009 12:13 Comments || Top||

#9  Miranda rights...bullet between the eyes...Miranda rights...bullet between the eyes. Yeah, that's a toughie.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/26/2009 12:44 Comments || Top||

#10  Just like the Hondurans should have shot Zelaya. Bang. Problem solved.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 11/26/2009 12:48 Comments || Top||

#11  You got that right Steve. On an amusing side note, his neice was going to UC Berkeley when I met her. The one area she was failing in was Latin American History, because she kept correcting her Marxist professor with actual information she'd personally witnessed. Eventually she decided to shut up and pass the class, but there was a lot of complaining to the boyfriend (me) about it.
Posted by: Secret Master || 11/26/2009 12:57 Comments || Top||

#12  I think that when the public sees how this public trial in New York works out, there will be an enormous outrage. It's kind of interesting to see all of these Lefties diligently working at slitting their own throats.
Posted by: Oregon Doodle || 11/26/2009 13:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Just remember - unless he's in a uniform or has a distinguishing badge or something showing that he's a combatant and not hiding behind the skirts of a civilian -- its perfectly legal (almost required by the much touted Geneva Convention) to execute him in the field as an illegal combatant.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/26/2009 14:06 Comments || Top||

#14  CF, IIRC,under the Geneva Convention, you have to give them a drum head court martial before you can execute them in the field.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 11/26/2009 20:40 Comments || Top||

#15  Works for me Rambler. As long as its done before the Lawyers get rolling.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/26/2009 22:35 Comments || Top||


Dodd: Civilian Courts Better Than Military Tribunals for Prosecuting Terrorists
(CNSNews.com) -- Senator Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.) said that civilian courts would do a "far better" job of prosecuting terrorists than military courts, adding that the civilian venues would be more likely to bring top al Qaeda terrorists to justice. But Dodd did not directly answer whether 9/11 leader Osama bin Laden, if captured, should be read his Miranda rights.

CNSNews.com asked: "If and when we catch Osama bin Laden, are we going to have to read him his Miranda rights?"

Dodd said: "We'll have far better prosecutions in our civilian courts than in our military courts. We're doing better there. I'm interested in seeing these people brought to justice and concluding their trials and getting convictions, and we've had far greater success in our federal court system than we have with our military courts."

Dodd added that while he was not against military tribunals, turning the issue into a political debate was "presumptuous" and people with a "political agenda" should not be weighing in on where terrorists are prosecuted.

"I'm not opposed to the military courts but having a bunch of congressmen and senators sitting around here deciding that they're going to be the attorney general and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the secretary of defense is a little presumptuous," Dodd told CNSNews.com on Capitol Hill. "And giving them the decision-making process as to where this must be done frankly ought not to be decided by somebody who's got a political agenda. So I'm pretty confident they [the Obama administration] know what they're doing."

Dodd was referring to questions raised by Republicans in Congress, particularly Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) who questioned Attorney General Eric Holder Jr. on Nov. 18 about how the administration would treat terrorists caught in the future, now that they apparently will be sent to federal court to stand trial. (Holder had announced on Nov. 13 that five being held for their role in the 9/11 attacks would be tried in a federal court and not a military tribunal.)
Posted by: Fred || 11/26/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  $133,900:
The amount Fannie Mae "invested" in Chris Dodd (D-CT), head of the powerful Senate Banking Committee, presumably to repel oversight of the GSE prior to its meltdown. Said meltdown helped touch off the current economic crisis. In only a few years time, Fannie also "invested" over $105,000 in then-Senator Barack Obama.

Tax dollars well spent for Value received.
Dodd 's Values are well known. How's that hopeNchange thingy going?
Get some.
Posted by: Angleton9 || 11/26/2009 4:21 Comments || Top||

#2  What the hell is his Goal?

It isn't to protect America or to defend the constitution.

It seems to be the destruction of America and its values and ideals and America's debasement before then entire world. Because that's the only way in which a civilian circus would be 'better'.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/26/2009 5:23 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd rather see a civilian trial of Senator Dodd regarding Countrywide, but I'm just funny that way.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 11/26/2009 7:11 Comments || Top||

#4  Lemee see ... the 3 in the photo. Jonny Corzine (Lost an Election), Algore Tubbisaurus(Just been proven a fraud by some Emails), and Dodd... The trend is not good for the folks in this photo from Teddy Kennedy's funeral earlier this year.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/26/2009 7:48 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Couple Crashes Bambi's State Dinner
Michaele and Tareq Salahi didn't look out of place at Tuesday's White House state dinner. They were all smiles as they rubbed shoulders with Vice President Joe Biden, White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, Washington Mayor Adrian Fenty and CBS News anchor Katie Couric.

No one suspected the Salahis were a couple of brazen party crashers -- and wannabe reality TV stars.

The Secret Service is looking into its security procedures after determining that the Virginia couple managed to slip into Tuesday night's event even though they were not on the guest list, agency spokesman Ed Donovan said.

President Barack Obama was never in any danger because the Salahis went through the same security screening for weapons as the 300-plus people actually invited to the dinner honoring Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Donovan said.

Donovan confirmed the identities of the couple. The Washington Post, which first reported on their evening out, said the Salahis were well-known in the Virginia horse-country set and were being considered for the Bravo reality TV show "Real Housewives of D.C."
Bravo indeed :-)
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/26/2009 07:58 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Off topic, but I'm watching "The Express" as I type.

It's a good thing to cheer for a Black Man of substance....
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/26/2009 17:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Tomorrow's NY Slimes:

"The cable network Bravo confirmed on Thursday that its cameras were following — and filming — an aspiring reality-show couple who managed to attend President Obama's first state dinner at the White House on Tuesday."

Bravo!
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/26/2009 18:37 Comments || Top||



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