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2009-02-04 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Pappy 2009-02-04 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 Glad they finally remembered that power steering change order.

What, there's no heater? Damn, who screwed that up?

Posted by KBK 2009-02-04 00:36|| 2009-02-04 00:36|| Front Page Top

#2 What, there's no heater?

No, that's the Army model option.

The air conditioner is the Air Force model option.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-02-04 08:08|| 2009-02-04 08:08|| Front Page Top

#3 The Marine Corps is starting to deploy a jeeplike vehicle called the Growler, 10 years after conception and at twice the contract price

Nothing compared to the developmental saga of the MV-22 Osprey. I hope the engines on the Gowler last longer than the Osprey's however.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-02-04 08:16|| 2009-02-04 08:16|| Front Page Top

#4 both sound like useless junk too me, still building vehicles for the european thetre i see. What came out of the first tour of the Ospey in Iraq?

Posted by rabid whitetail 2009-02-04 09:31|| 2009-02-04 09:31|| Front Page Top

#5 Let me see if I understand: lightly armored check, can tow a 120mm mortar check, can reach 45 mph on road (and much more). Humm, I think the WWII Jeep could have exceeded specifications hands down at a fraction of the cost.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2009-02-04 10:10|| 2009-02-04 10:10|| Front Page Top

#6 Built by Ocala, Fla.-based American Growler, the original Growler is made partly from salvaged M151 jeep parts and is available in several versions for as little as $7,500 in kit form. At the high end, there's a $14,500 upgraded "tactical dune buggy" with a "bikini top."

$14,500 -> $209,000, bikini top extra. Does not compute.

Posted by ed 2009-02-04 10:19|| 2009-02-04 10:19|| Front Page Top

#7 Sounds like they re-built it from the ground up to put in "low rider" hydraulic suspensions and other weird crap to get them to fit into Ospreys. Stupid goddamn technophilic waste of time and money.

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2009-02-04 11:18|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2009-02-04 11:18|| Front Page Top

#8 If you look at the version the Dominican Republic paid $14,500 for, and to the version the Marines got, you'll notice the Dominicans got twice the seating capacity for 7% of the price. They also did not have to wait 10 years to get it.

The solution seems obvious to me: Have the Dominicans purchase all the Marines' gear! Even taking Dominican bribes into account, it will cost less than sending it through the Pentagon.

/;-p

Posted by Frozen Al 2009-02-04 11:39|| 2009-02-04 11:39|| Front Page Top

#9 Bet the Dominicans only have 1) 5% of the paperwork and process that DON/DOD/GSA procurement has. and 2) only one interest group group to satisfy.

Posted by Pappy 2009-02-04 11:56|| 2009-02-04 11:56|| Front Page Top

#10 And changing a whole lot of the design after awarding the contract is a sure way to jack up costs.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-02-04 12:10|| 2009-02-04 12:10|| Front Page Top

#11 I think something like a Suzuki Samurai would fit nicely in a V-22. Even w/ a JP-8 fueled engine it would probably be around $20K. Or 4 ATVs in it's place. 1 mortar carrier, 1 ammo carrier, 2 recon.

Posted by ed 2009-02-04 12:25|| 2009-02-04 12:25|| Front Page Top

#12 Ed, you stole the idea right off my keyboard, but I was thinking diesel Isuzu. (Chevy)

Posted by Rednek Jim">Rednek Jim 2009-02-04 14:23|| 2009-02-04 14:23|| Front Page Top

#13 Mike N. coulda got us a bettter deal.

Posted by .5MT 2009-02-04 16:11|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2009-02-04 16:11|| Front Page Top

#14 A. Change orders cost money.
B. General Dynamics had to get their cut.
C. Major Change Orders cost MAJOR money.

I suspect the folks at American Growler could have done the original item for $15 to $20,000 plus whatever is required to set them up for commo. Like the M151 the Growler is/was a tactical vehicle, not a highway cruiser. An armored vehicle is not an option for internal carry in a helicopter or V-22.

Posted by tipover 2009-02-04 18:27|| 2009-02-04 18:27|| Front Page Top

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