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2009-02-04 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
California farms, vineyards in peril from warming
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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2009-02-04 11:22|| || Front Page|| [11137 views ]  Top

#1 "I'm hoping that the American people will wake up," Chu said, and pay the cost of rewiring.

And there it is...
Posted by tu3031 2009-02-04 11:30||   2009-02-04 11:30|| Front Page Top

#2 Cause everyone knows warm weather is a disaster for plant growth. I wonder how the rest of the country stores water? Perhaps in those little plastic Evian bottles the Greenies are always toting around.
Posted by ed 2009-02-04 12:13||   2009-02-04 12:13|| Front Page Top

#3 The only thing threatening Kaliphornia's farms is suburban sprawl.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-02-04 12:16||   2009-02-04 12:16|| Front Page Top

#4 "I'm hoping that the American people will wake up," Chu said, and pay the cost of rewiring.

Another idiot physicist who uses ridiculous analogies to explain things.

As Dirac said, if you can't explain what you are doing in a way that's understandable to the average person, then you don't understand what you are doing.

This kind of 'explanation' is extremely condescending.

As an example of how to do it right, here's Einstein's extremely subtle description of radio:

When asked to explain radio, Einstein said that telegraph is like a long cat with its tail in New York and its head in San Franscisco. When you pull the tail, the head yowls.

"Radio is like that, except there's no cat."

There is nothing that the USA can do to stop AGW, assuming you accept the flawed premise. Maybe nuke China and India. But let's get out the sackcloth and ashes.
Posted by KBK 2009-02-04 13:03||   2009-02-04 13:03|| Front Page Top

#5 The only thing threatening Kaliphornia's farms is suburban sprawl.

There is in fact a serious water problem in CA. It's made worse by various environmental controls, but it exists.

CA's central valley provides a good portion of our fresh fruits, vegetables and livestock. Petaluma is the center of a major poultry producing area. If in fact agriculture crashes there we will indeed feel the impact in our budgets and in grocery store offerings.
Posted by lotp 2009-02-04 13:11||   2009-02-04 13:11|| Front Page Top

#6 We can always resurrect plans to redirect the Peace river from Alaska, resulting is a net generation of green renewable hydro-power and an immense supply of fresh water.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-02-04 13:13||   2009-02-04 13:13|| Front Page Top

#7 Chu is not a climate scientist. He won his Nobel for work trapping atoms with laser light.

But he's "wicked schmart" as we say up here...
Posted by tu3031 2009-02-04 13:16||   2009-02-04 13:16|| Front Page Top

#8 I'll also take this guy seriously when he starts warning about the certain risk to the US when the New Madrid fault lets loose again and destroys all the nuke plants in the mid west and south. And don't forget the Yellowstone caldera that's bound to bust open and cover the eastern US in feet of volcanic ash. What's he doing about hose certainties?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-02-04 13:17||   2009-02-04 13:17|| Front Page Top

#9 California agriculture wastes a tremendous amount of water whose cost is subsidized by taxpayers across the nation. What reason is there to grow rice in a arid/semiarid climate except that water is almost free?
Posted by ed 2009-02-04 13:23||   2009-02-04 13:23|| Front Page Top

#10 Science to the rescue. There is a new type of low maintenance nanotube water filter that uses only 1/4th of the energy of reverse osmosis. It is also scalable. Then all they have to do is pump seawater converted to freshwater, ashore.
Posted by Anonymoose 2009-02-04 13:33||   2009-02-04 13:33|| Front Page Top

#11 He sees $$education$$ as a means to combat threat.

Throw money at it. That always works.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2009-02-04 14:54||   2009-02-04 14:54|| Front Page Top

#12 That's why, that's why, yes that's why....

Me and Mighty Little be a moving, moving to Montanna soon.
Posted by .5MT 2009-02-04 14:58|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net]  2009-02-04 14:58|| Front Page Top

#13 This is the government's cover to feed California government bailout money.
Posted by DarthVader 2009-02-04 14:59||   2009-02-04 14:59|| Front Page Top

#14 Suburban sprawl exacerbates water problems. For example, a few years back San Diego County damn near went to war against neighboring Imperial County, a major agricultural center, over access to Colorado River water. The reason for the dispute was rampant, virtually uncontrolled suburban sprawl in San Diego County creating an ever growing demand for more and more water. San Diego County is an arid climate that averages 10 inches of rain a year. The past several years we have received far less than the average. But don't bother asking the pols about the drought when they're approving massive new housing tracts because they plug their ears with the dollars they get from developers. An agreement was finally worked out between San Diego and Imperial Counties. But now the mayor of San Diego is telling us that mandatory water rationing is a real possibility this summer. Meanwhile, San Diego County's avocado growers, long a staple of local agriculture, have begun cutting their trees because they can't afford to water them. The trees might grow back if we ever get some rain or the growers might just sell out to developers. We've had droughts before but competition between farmers and suburbs for access to water has never been so intense. We don't need global warming...we're losing our farms without it. But I think the vineyards will be OK. We can do without fruit and vegetables but we gotta have wine.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2009-02-04 15:07||   2009-02-04 15:07|| Front Page Top

#15 'We're looking at a scenario where there's no more agriculture in California,'

I can't believe this retard is Secretary of Energy. Obama's cabinet pics just get worse and worse.
Posted by Parabellum 2009-02-04 15:12||   2009-02-04 15:12|| Front Page Top

#16 It starts at the top 9mm, it starts at the very top.
Posted by Besoeker 2009-02-04 15:13||   2009-02-04 15:13|| Front Page Top

#17 We can't grow Oranges in Orange Park Florida anymore either. I'ma thinking of a law suit, a big Mother of one. Also no Mandarins grown in Mandarin, same reason, too damn cold, has been since about 1914... bastids, I blame big oil, big tobacco, low gravity and a massive, general insensitivity to what I want.
Posted by .5MT 2009-02-04 15:19|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net]  2009-02-04 15:19|| Front Page Top

#18 and a massive, general insensitivity to what I want.

.5MT wins the thread, I think.
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2009-02-04 16:25||   2009-02-04 16:25|| Front Page Top

#19 I tried Caliwine once.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-02-04 20:55||   2009-02-04 20:55|| Front Page Top

#20 Water is a real issue and Anonymoose grasps the answer. There is a whole lot of water just over my shoulder...just get the salt out of it.
Posted by remoteman 2009-02-04 21:07||   2009-02-04 21:07|| Front Page Top

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