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2006-02-13 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Thousands would die in US strikes on Iran, says study

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Posted by Steve White 2006-02-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 And the counterplay begins...

The morale of the story is, of course:

"Don't want to be on the receiving end? Then don't paint yourself into a fatal corner."

This obvious truth will be ignored by everyone who seeks to Enable Muzzy Viagra or Tweak Great Satan - with the willing complicity of the MSM. This willful-idiot story being the first of many examples... Note that the good Professor and His Band of BS Brothers failed to include the shutdown of the MM program to acquire a nuke in their list of Iranian responses... Heh...

Thus, truth is the first victim - long before a shot has been fired.

Posted by .com 2006-02-13 00:25|| 2006-02-13 00:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Moral, not morale, duh.

Posted by .com 2006-02-13 00:25|| 2006-02-13 00:25|| Front Page Top

#3 But Prof Rogers says it has a large arsenal of responses.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the exception of closing the Strait of Hormuz - a choke point in the Gulf of Rumsfeld, aren't the Iranians already doing most everything on the professor's list?

If the choice is between Iranian civilian casualties and American civilian casualties, I know which one I'd pick.

Posted by SteveS 2006-02-13 00:34|| 2006-02-13 00:34|| Front Page Top

#4 The Prof from Oxford? LMAO. Like anyone in the real world cares what this ass thinks.

Peace Studies? If you want Peace you don't study it, you plan for war.

Posted by Sock Puppet O´ Doom 2006-02-13 00:36|| 2006-02-13 00:36|| Front Page Top

#5 OK.. if they don't want bombs is it ok to cover the nation in LSD so they don't know what to do with a bomb?

Is that more or less moral?

Posted by 3dc 2006-02-13 00:47|| 2006-02-13 00:47|| Front Page Top

#6 What does a professor of 'peace studies' study? Dhimmitude?

Iran would probably withdraw from the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and speed up its secret nuclear weapons programme.

Which is the same result if we don't.

A major American attack on Iran's nuclear sites would kill up to 10,000 people and lead to war in the Middle East.

And not attacking could kill up to a few million innocent civilians and lead to war in the middle east. The difference is that if we don't attack they can kill another few millions, and another, and another....

Just another Professor of Gloom and Doom.... We better give europe back to the Nazi's and the west coast to Imperial Japan....

Posted by CrazyFool 2006-02-13 04:15|| 2006-02-13 04:15|| Front Page Top

#7 Too bad.

Posted by gromgoru 2006-02-13 07:01|| 2006-02-13 07:01|| Front Page Top

#8 Quagmire! (Again - see later post)

Posted by Bobby 2006-02-13 07:10|| 2006-02-13 07:10|| Front Page Top

#9 A military operation against Iran would not ... be a short-term matter but would set in motion a complex and long-lasting confrontation.

I'd say that happened in 1979.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-02-13 08:11|| 2006-02-13 08:11|| Front Page Top

#10 · withdraw from the Non-Proliferation Treaty and pursue speedy development of nuclear weapons capability;
Hard to speed up development when running for their lives.

· encourage retaliatory action against Israel by the Lebanese-based Hizbullah group, which has missiles capable of hitting Haifa and several other Israeli cities;
US recognizes Israeli annexation of southern Lebanon.

· close the Strait of Hormuz, one of the main access routes for oil from the Gulf;
Iran receives death penalty.

· send Iranian paramilitary units into states such as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates;
Will be highly entertained watching public beheadings of the Pasadran.

· or order Iranian Revolutionary Guards to step up links with insurgents in Iraq.
US gives unconditional support to independence for minority nations in Iran.

Posted by ed 2006-02-13 08:24|| 2006-02-13 08:24|| Front Page Top

#11 There's a lot of value in killing as many nuclear scientists, engineers, and technicians as possible. Almost makes a daytime first-strike worth the risks. Not sure that the civilian death count would change much either way.

Posted by Darrell 2006-02-13 09:04|| 2006-02-13 09:04|| Front Page Top

#12 Thousands died in the strikes on Hamburg, Tokyo, and Schweinfurt. Tough.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2006-02-13 14:09|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2006-02-13 14:09|| Front Page Top

#13 What a waste of oxygen and dead trees. This "being" needs to be used as bait for Nessie.

1. What happens if Iran develops a 50kt nuke? It slams into Tel Aviv, and 70,000 or more die.

2. What happens if we strike their nuclear facilities and 20,000 civilians (twice asstard's estimate) die? No nuke slams into Tel Aviv, Paris, Prague, Naples, Rome, Athens, or any other European or Israeli city, and at LEAST 50,000 innocent lives are spared.

3. What happens when we hit the mullahmushbrains? "We will have war in the Middle East". Clue: Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Sudan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Chechnya, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh... how would you know the difference if a "war" started?????

Some people are too stuck on stupid to be allowed to breed. Obviously this UofB professor and a lot of folks at Oxford belong in that group.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2006-02-13 22:49|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2006-02-13 22:49|| Front Page Top

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