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2006-02-03 Caribbean-Latin America

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Posted by lotp 2006-02-03 15:44|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 *Sigh*

I'm getting extremely tired of the Hitler accusations, on all sides. To me, saying that someone is *just like Hitler* means you have no better argument to make. Lame, lame, lame.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-02-03 16:10|| 2006-02-03 16:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Yeah, but they need the spiffy black uniforms; berets are so French...

Posted by Raj 2006-02-03 16:10|| 2006-02-03 16:10|| Front Page Top

#3 I agree with Sea. I hate to invoke Godwin's law on Rummy, but ...

Besides, as bad as Hugo is, I don't think he's even in the same league as Adolph.

Posted by Xbalanke 2006-02-03 16:48|| 2006-02-03 16:48|| Front Page Top

#4 Just Castro-lite without the good stuff. Like having a pretty good swing.

Posted by 6 2006-02-03 17:34|| 2006-02-03 17:34|| Front Page Top

#5 Rummey gives the man to much credit, Hugo is an idiot, Hitler was a madman

Posted by djohn66 2006-02-03 20:51|| 2006-02-03 20:51|| Front Page Top

#6 Actually the Volokh Conspiracy does a good job of explaining when and where it is appropriate here.

In what situations are modern-day comparisons to the Nazis likely to follow Godwins Policy of being useful, rather than trivial or hyperbolic? There are several obvious cases for which the Nazi comparison is neither hyperbolic nor trivial, even though the case in question may have some significant differences from the Nazis. This list is meant to be suggestive, not comprehensive:

1. When discussing followers and leaders of a political movement that is explicitly founded on Nazi principles or my admirers/allies of Nazism. These would include some, but not all, of the racist hate groups. These also include the Baath parties of Iraq and Syria, since Baath was founded as an Arab nationalist syncretic blend of Nazism and Stalinism.

2. When discussing somebody who adopts the nickname Hitler, as well as followers and cohorts of such a person. This would include Zimbabwe, where the late right-hand man of the tyrant Robert Mugabe was Chenjerai "Hitler" Hunzvi. It also includes the Fatah Party in the Palestinian Authority, one of whose members of the national assembly, Jamal Abu Roub, sports the nickname "Hitler."

3. People who publish and read Mein Kampf not as an exploration of an evil mind, but because they like its agenda. This group apparently includes a huge number of Arab and Turks.

4. People who attempt to delegitimize the Jewish need for a national homeland by denying that the Holocaust took place. This does not mean that everyone who disagrees with the creation of Israel is fit subject for a Nazi analogy. I am referring only to people who implicitly defend the Nazis by denying the historical reality the Holocaust.

5. People who advocate for (or rule) dictatorships and who simultaneously espouse extreme forms of anti-semitism--as in God hates Jews or regret that Hitler didn't finish killing all the Jews.

Posted by Cluth Clomoter4057 2006-02-03 21:36|| 2006-02-03 21:36|| Front Page Top

#7 5. People who advocate for (or rule) dictatorships and who simultaneously espouse extreme forms of anti-semitism--as in God hates Jews or regret that Hitler didn't finish killing all the Jews.

This rule fits Chavez. Remember his announcement that the Mossad had been planning some sort of attack on him or Venezuela, accompanied by a raid on a Jewish school? And the line about how he's standing up against the people who "killed Christ"?

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2006-02-03 22:21|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-02-03 22:21|| Front Page Top

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