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2005-04-04 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Steve 2005-04-04 1:58:17 PM|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Waaaahhhh! Steve beat me to it, complete with the popcorn!

That's what I get for waiting. Damn work for getting in the way. :-(

Personally, I'm betting on the leftists. They fight nastier.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2005-04-04 2:12:39 PM|| 2005-04-04 2:12:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Instead, the DLC called on the party to dramatically change its message to..

These guys sound like they still don't understand. It's not a matter of simply changing the message; national security has to be something they actually believe in. Sounding tough but not willing to wield and/or apply the big stick when the time comes to do so is NOT going to fly. Period.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-04-04 2:21:16 PM|| 2005-04-04 2:21:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Outside Joe Lieberman, and Ed Koch, which Dimmidonks really have a true concern for National Security...

Posted by BigEd 2005-04-04 2:37:33 PM|| 2005-04-04 2:37:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 BigEd -
Is that question limited to only serving and/or alive dems?

Crap....can't think of any alive and serving.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-04-04 2:55:31 PM|| 2005-04-04 2:55:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Ahhhhh. Is there any sweeter sound than the "squish" of liberals stomping on leftists?

Posted by Hyper 2005-04-04 3:10:17 PM|| 2005-04-04 3:10:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 "...and convince voters that national security is our first priority."

Shouldn't these posts come with a Coffee Alert?

Posted by Raj 2005-04-04 3:11:49 PM|| 2005-04-04 3:11:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Steve beat me to it, complete with the popcorn!
Bwahahaha! The Army of Steve strikes again!

Posted by Steve 2005-04-04 3:22:40 PM|| 2005-04-04 3:22:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I smell a split coming on...

Posted by mojo 2005-04-04 3:33:33 PM|| 2005-04-04 3:33:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 I like the almost daily rants about the Republican Party falling apart over the latest issue de jour. I don't know a single Conservative that is eager to join the Democrats. Hell even Jeffords stopped at the title Independent and not democrat. It's hysterical for the left to claim that if they only focused on "their message" that voters would flock to them. Just remember we evil NeoCons have to stick together.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2005-04-04 3:36:31 PM|| 2005-04-04 3:36:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 the AOS, like Savoir Faire, ees every whaire!

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-04 3:38:57 PM|| 2005-04-04 3:38:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 A split? I hope so. I'd like at least two viable presidential candidates to choose from next time. If the Dems could do put up a decent anti-terror candidate and learn to embrace capitalistic principles, they would at least have a chance of getting my vote.

Posted by Jules 187 2005-04-04 3:42:52 PM|| 2005-04-04 3:42:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Nobody in the Democratic Party, and that most especially includes the liberals in the Americans for Democratic Action, opposes fighting the terrorists.

*snort*

I'd love to hear their definition of "terrorist". I have a feeling they leave out Islamofascists and include Republicans.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-04-04 3:45:03 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-04-04 3:45:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 "I can't tell the difference between the positions the DLC puts forward and Republican policy,"
... and the lefties dismiss the moderate Dems with a yawn.

Posted by Dishman 2005-04-04 4:00:02 PM|| 2005-04-04 4:00:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 "a delusion to think that if we just turned out our voters, we could win national elections."

LOL! Deadly honesty. We really need our voters and their greatgrandfathers to vote, unless of course the current voter is black, in which greatgranddad can't vote because we just don't allow that.

Posted by Shipman 2005-04-04 4:19:41 PM|| 2005-04-04 4:19:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 A true split in the Democrats might cause a split in the Republicans as centrists Republicans decide if they have more in common with Centrist Democrats or with the Religious right.

More likely than a split would be a defection of Democrats over to the greens, creating three parties. Two week lefties and the Republicans. This will give the Republicans wiggle room to move right because nobody is gonna vote Green in big numbers, they are just too whacked.

Posted by rjschwarz 2005-04-04 4:32:55 PM|| [http://rjschwarz.com] 2005-04-04 4:32:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 "I can't tell the difference between the positions the DLC puts forward and Republican policy,"

An example of Parallax Error. He's so far to the extreme left that he can't tell between center-left and center-right.

"Nobody in the Democratic Party, and that most especially includes the liberals in the Americans for Democratic Action, opposes fighting the terrorists."

Oh, no. You simply oppose any method of actually fighting them. But you're cool with the concept.

Come to think of it, I don't even think that is correct. Why don't we poll the members of, oh, the CBC, and ask them about fighting terrorism. Let's ask Cynthia McKinney, re-elected to the House of Representatives as a Democrat. Is her positions less representative of the Democrat mainstream than that of Lieberman or Miller? Is that what you're saying?

Posted by Jackal 2005-04-04 4:41:35 PM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-04-04 4:41:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Didn't Bayh vote against Rice?

And this is one of their "moderates". Feh.

Posted by someone 2005-04-04 4:45:13 PM|| 2005-04-04 4:45:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Schism! Schism! Schism!

Posted by Tkat 2005-04-04 4:48:30 PM|| 2005-04-04 4:48:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 An example of Parallax Error. He's so far to the extreme left that he can't tell between center-left and center-right.

Way good. That goes somewhere in the great big binder of Moonbatalogy.

Posted by Shipman 2005-04-04 6:18:34 PM|| 2005-04-04 6:18:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 It's just that they can't decide, other than George Bush, who a terrorist is.

Oh, they've decided...

Posted by Pappy 2005-04-04 6:58:00 PM|| 2005-04-04 6:58:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 I think the vote against Rice was more political than anything else; Bayh has been a hawk on almost every other occasion I can think of. Also, in addition to Bayh and Lieberman, Clinton, Landrieu, Pryor, Lincoln, Salazar (I think) and most of the other southern/non-coastal western Democrats are at least relatively hawkish. Certainly as much so as the more moderate wing of the Republican Party (Hagel, Powell, the Sisters Of Maine, etc.)

Posted by PantslessYoda1 2005-04-04 10:27:30 PM|| [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fsudems] 2005-04-04 10:27:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 what yoda said. this is really a regional divide between the vermont/NE/left coast 'n' college town crowd and the rest of the country. Martin Frost in TX supported Bush on Iraq and would've made an excellent party chairman. plenty of other western and southern dems who take nat'l sec;y seriously and could lead the party back into the mainstream.

hillary gets it. and keep your eye on phil bredesen.

Posted by thibaud (aka lex) 2005-04-04 11:58:11 PM|| 2005-04-04 11:58:11 PM|| Front Page Top

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