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2006-04-10 Home Front: Politix

Third retired general calls for Rummy to step down

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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-04-10 02:35|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 After the battle, everybody is a general.

Posted by twobyfour 2006-04-10 03:36|| 2006-04-10 03:36|| Front Page Top

#2 Ninny-Zinni, Weasly Clark and now this Notbold. Scratch their brass and you'll find Clintonian pot metal underneath it.

All of these guys were in the inner circle under Clinton, were told that they were losing their high positions when Rummy took over (civilian control of the military was still in the Constitution last time I checked).

Weasly Clark ran for Pres as a Hellary seat-warmer financed by the Clintons and their wing of the (D)onks, and now we get the books from the others who have been under rocks since the war started.

Next to join the cabal will be the former USAF Chief of Staff Merrill McPrick, the bonehead that made USAF officers dress like waiter captains.

McPeak was the one who reorganized the USAF to get rid of the Strategic Air Command, figgering we would have no use for strategic nukes ever again.

Then along comes Iran, North Korea, and maybe now Venezuala eventually. Whadda maroon!

Bah! But...it's better to have all these maroons in one club where we can keep an eye on 'em.

Posted by Rivrdog">Rivrdog 2006-04-10 05:56|| http://rivrdog.typepad.com]">[http://rivrdog.typepad.com] 2006-04-10 05:56|| Front Page Top

#3 Rvrdog-
I've been waiting for Red Mike McPeak to open his big mouth as well, but there is the liklihood that his own actions were so egregious that any protest on his part will be run right into the dirt.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-04-10 06:51|| 2006-04-10 06:51|| Front Page Top

#4 Amazing how big these guys balls get when they're out of the chain of command. At least Shinseki spoke up on the job and has kept his mouth shut since. My only fear is that Clinton got to the colonels as well as the generals. Any vets got opinions about how deeply Clintonism is in the high command?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-04-10 07:39|| 2006-04-10 07:39|| Front Page Top

#5 I'm in the process of reading Clancy's(with Gen.Fred Franks)"Into the Storm(a study in command). Gen.Franks commanded VII Corps.
It's primarily about GW1,but goes into great detail about the rebuilding of the U.S.Army after Vietnam.This is a very good read,I highly recommend it.

Posted by raptor 2006-04-10 08:30|| 2006-04-10 08:30|| Front Page Top

#6 The troops really lost faith in McPeak when he tried to make them wear Navy uniforms. This all puts me in mind of the Bing Crosby song from White Christmas, "What can you do with a general"

When the war was over, why, there were jobs galore
For the G.I. Josephs who were in the war
But for generals things were not so grand
And it's not so hard to understand

[Refrain:]
What can you do with a general
When he stops being a general?
Oh, what can you do with a general who retires?

Who's got a job for a general
When he stops being a general?
They all get a job but a general no one hires

They fill his chest with medals while he's across the foam
And they spread the crimson carpet when he comes marching home
The next day someone hollers when he comes into view
"Here comes the general" and they all say "General who?"
They're delighted that he came
But they can't recall his name

Nobody thinks of assigning him
When they stop wining and dining him
It seems this country never has enjoyed
So many one and two and three and four star generals
Unemployed

Posted by RWV 2006-04-10 09:19|| 2006-04-10 09:19|| Front Page Top

#7 "I now regret that I did not more openly challenge those who were determined to invade a country whose actions were peripheral to the real threat Al Qaeda." But now that I have my retirement pay in hand and I know fir sure I ain't gonna get that 4th star, I can say whichever I wants. Semper somethin.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-04-10 09:24|| 2006-04-10 09:24|| Front Page Top

#8 All the yahoos were Clinton "yes" men and ball lickers. No real fight to 'em. Not surprised they are crying like the babies they are now that they don't have to worry about being early retired.
I got out when these jokers came into power. They, and Clinton screwed up the military so fast it made my head spin.
So long suckers, and don't let the door hit you in the ass.

Posted by DarthVader 2006-04-10 09:55|| 2006-04-10 09:55|| Front Page Top

#9 Maj. Gen. Paul D. Eaton, was a MISERABLE FAILURE by all standards - look at the mess we had to clean up after he left - Gen Abazaid bascially had to completely redesign and reimplment the training process Eaton was in charge of, it was WORSE than starting from scratchin that they had to UNDO the damage Eaton and his policies had left. Eaton made rank kissing ass politically under Clinton.

And don't get me started on McPeak, that dick. Nor Clark, a friggen showbaoter who made things a lot worse in the whole ops of KFOR with this prima donna behavior.

As for Fred Franks (Tom Clancy book), I served indirectly under him in GW-1 (2ACR, corps asset), he was a good, if cautious, general. As did Col MacMaster Tal-Afar fame, commander of the 3ACR today (who was in 2ACR, 2nd squadron as a LT I recall, in GW1).

Notice they dont say anything about the 3 dozen or so other retired generals in recent years who back up the invasion, but are not out braying about it.

Posted by OldSpook 2006-04-10 10:11|| 2006-04-10 10:11|| Front Page Top

#10 Well put. This guy is a DNC ball licker.

Posted by Icerigger 2006-04-10 10:38|| 2006-04-10 10:38|| Front Page Top

#11 Hmm three (or maybe a dozen) retired gernerals out of 100s don't agree with Rummey and thats the ones that get coverage? FYI Shinseki had already put in his paperwork to retire before he stated any disagreement.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-04-10 10:41|| 2006-04-10 10:41|| Front Page Top

#12 Now, if he was a retired general who favored the war and the SoD, do you think he would have gotten any pub in Time or the other MSM?

I just hope there is enough arm chairs on the sets for ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. for all these disgruntled retired generals.

Posted by Captain America 2006-04-10 11:16|| 2006-04-10 11:16|| Front Page Top

#13 The General expresses regret but doesn't offer to bear any of the consequences of his self-confessed screwup. Tell you what, General: If you really think you screwed up, donate half of your retirement pay to the families of Marines who died while you held rank. Or at least drop and give the nation twenty. But maybe you're just putting your hat in the ring for the number two spot on Hillary's ticket.

Posted by Matt 2006-04-10 12:09|| 2006-04-10 12:09|| Front Page Top

#14 You know when the time came around, Eisenhower was promoted from below a good number of generals. If Rummy can id a good Marshall who can select people like Col MacMaster to fast track and get beyond the Clinton era crowd, doing away with the usual good o'boy club, we'd be far better served.

Posted by Elmereng Ebbaimp7658 2006-04-10 12:56|| 2006-04-10 12:56|| Front Page Top

#15 I don't know why the MSM is counting, because it's not decided by a vote.

"we must never again stand by quietly while those ignorant of and casual about war lead us into another one and then mismanage the conduct of it,"
So he retired? That's not even standing by quietly.

The decision to invade Iraq "was done with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions or bury the results."
Not only was he not privy enough to the decision making to make such a claim, but he retired when he could have stayed to provide four critical months of expertise and influence.

"These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman." -- Thomas Paine

Posted by Darrell 2006-04-10 14:44|| 2006-04-10 14:44|| Front Page Top

#16 Raptor,

I have a signed copy of that book. I was an escort officer for (ret) GEN Franks and driving him around was like have audio tapes of that book. He asked what my security clearance was and the stories got better. A great man.

The press would have you believe that many amputees from this war are the first to re-enter military service. Not true. (ret) GEN Franks lost one of his legs in Vietnamn and fough his way back to military service.

But like you said, the book is highly reccomended.

Posted by Cold war architechture rules 2006-04-10 15:24|| 2006-04-10 15:24|| Front Page Top

#17 GEN Clark is a straight up asshat. If Monica sucked the Presidents dick, Wesley was tounging his balls for an appointment as the EUCOM Commander. There was not one damn soldier in Europe that liked him.

He was a politician before being a military officer.... and we saw through that.

Posted by Armylife 2006-04-10 15:30|| 2006-04-10 15:30|| Front Page Top

#18 A big hint about why he retired?

Posted by mojo">mojo 2006-04-10 15:38|| 2006-04-10 15:38|| Front Page Top

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