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2005-04-19 -Short Attention Span Theater-

Gun Course as a High School Graduation requirement?

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Posted by OldSpook 2005-04-19 13:21|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 As a high school student in the 70's and a member of the rifle club we were allowed to carry our rifles with us through the day during classes. Nobody ever got hurt. None of us ever jokingly pointed it someone. We were taught responsibility when handling firearms first then how to shot. Nowdays that would cause loss of bladder control amongst the educational professionals. Its good to see someone try and do the right thing.

Posted by BrerRabbit 2005-04-19 1:51:52 PM|| 2005-04-19 1:51:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 I can top that. Our range was under the gym at one H.S. at another is was outdoors in the middle of town. (It's now tennis and handball courts.)

Loss od bladder control? They would be squirting fecal matter.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-04-19 2:07:32 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-04-19 2:07:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 This should be broken down into three separate courses. The first should be comprehensive gun safety and maintenance, to include a big block on the "medical effects of guns". This should be as graphic as drivers' ed, and for the same reason, not to dissuade students from driving or firing guns, but to instill in them that there are rules, and that the rules are there for a very good reason. The second course will be the "lab" for gun safety, with students learning safety with .22 shorts, progressing up to large calibers, to learn the practical differences between guns; then advancing to target shooting. The THIRD course should be oriented to defensive use of a firearm, open only to senior students, and with the guidance of their local police department, with an eye towards steering them into criminal justice majors in college. In this course they would learn gun laws, "gun experience" from seasoned police officers, and most importantly, how *not* to use their gun at all, or hopefully, ever, except for target shooting.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-04-19 2:28:05 PM|| 2005-04-19 2:28:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Not sure if it's still the law there, but I was required to take ROTC to graduate from HS in Utah. Weapons training was part of it - certainly broke the boredom of marching around in the parking lot - and I was on the rifle team. We had matches against other schools - it was great, but nothing compared to the training I had received from my Grandfather from age 4 on. You got ribbed on uniform day - once a week - but nobody really cared that much, even back then in the 60's. Helped me when we hit Basic - I could do everything from obliques to hospital corners and ended up as Platoon Guide, a pretty sweet situation, relatively speaking. Early E-2, etc.

Posted by .com 2005-04-19 3:03:32 PM|| 2005-04-19 3:03:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Anonymoose I would keep the cops as far away from these kids a possible.

Actual Range Masters free from any "law enforcement" agendas. I have had firearms training in an "law enforcement" enviroment. I got way more from people who only do firearms traning for a living. Some of them were ex law enforcement but totally free from the "them and us" attitudes many in law enforcement are infected with. Kids don't need that.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-04-19 3:31:52 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-04-19 3:31:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Thought about this when a kid in California shot several other students with a .22 revolver. He reloaded several times, but none of the other kids knew that they could take him out while he reloaded - or that a full backpack could probably stop anything he fired at them!

Posted by OldeForce 2005-04-19 3:37:44 PM|| 2005-04-19 3:37:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 OF - if you're referring to Santana HS - my daughter was one of the one's shot at - nobody had a clue til he started shooting in a crowded hallway between classes, and he reloaded from cover by a restroom - nobody could get near him.
Other than the actual facts, your anecdote's right on :-(

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-19 3:41:53 PM|| 2005-04-19 3:41:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Frank G: Sorry you were offended by my remarks; I was thinking of the kids I taught outside Paterson, NJ - they would've taken the s.o.b. out. (These are the same kids who offered to kill a cop who got in my younger brother's face; when I declined, they wondered if they could just torch his house or car. Nice kids; only a few died from drugs or gang-related violence, and one even made it to college.)

Posted by OldeForce 2005-04-19 5:54:11 PM|| 2005-04-19 5:54:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 not offended, and in fact, wrong for my assumption, sorry

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-19 6:24:13 PM|| 2005-04-19 6:24:13 PM|| Front Page Top

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