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2025-05-06 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

39 million. The true scale of the USSR's losses during the war has become known

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Posted by badanov 2025-05-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [215 views ] Top

#1 How many Russian would be alive today if Stalin hadn't liquidated so many of his own?

Posted by Procopius2k 2025-05-06 08:19|| 2025-05-06 08:19|| Front Page Top

#2 I'll bet their actual combat losses MIGHT be a tenth of that.

Posted by Silentbrick 2025-05-06 09:12|| 2025-05-06 09:12|| Front Page Top

#3 #2 I'll bet their actual combat losses MIGHT be a tenth of that.

Funny.

The Soviets said in 1991 their total losses for all branches, for all causes, was 11 million.

Posted by badanov 2025-05-06 09:46|| 2025-05-06 09:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Russia SHOULD have over 300 million people now. Between both world wars, Stalin and his purges, alcoholism, etc they only have 145 million and falling.

The world wars and urbanization was Europe's suicide.

Posted by DarthVader 2025-05-06 10:03|| 2025-05-06 10:03|| Front Page Top

#5 The Soviets said in 1991 their total losses for all branches, for all causes, was 11 million.

It’s always a range. In 199 they shared the minimum, now the maximum — including what was discovered once the Communists stopped hiding the bad news.

Lenin also had his massacres, as did the Menshaviks. as they overthrew the Tsar.

Posted by trailing wife 2025-05-06 12:10|| 2025-05-06 12:10|| Front Page Top

#6 A substantial number of Russians were killed by other Russians in combat or by Ukrainians during this time period. Other Russians were killed by the Russian government.

Depends on how you count.

Posted by Lord Garth 2025-05-06 13:35|| 2025-05-06 13:35|| Front Page Top

#7 Russians have done extensive analysis of the Red Army's war dead, reflected in this document (It's in Russian, sorry)

This question is one of the most controversial. In my opinion, the essence of the discussion is most accurately reflected in the article by V. Litvinenko "Were the Red Army's losses in the Great Patriotic War excessive?" The main conclusion of this article is:) "the levels of irretrievable combat losses of the Red Army and the Wehrmacht on the Soviet-German front are approximately equal. Moreover, due to the insufficiency, unreliability and contradictory nature of the initial data, it is impossible to say with complete certainty whether the Red Army's losses were greater or less than the Wehrmacht's losses. "

Posted by badanov 2025-05-06 15:39|| 2025-05-06 15:39|| Front Page Top

#8 ^Stalin's purges of the military really helped.

Posted by Grom the Affective 2025-05-06 16:11|| 2025-05-06 16:11|| Front Page Top

#9 Stalin's order 227 - Not One Step back also didn't help. Sometimes it makes military sense to retreat, regroup and then counterattack. However, with Order 227, Soviet commanders dared not retreat.

Posted by Rambler 2025-05-06 16:47|| 2025-05-06 16:47|| Front Page Top

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