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2004-05-19 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by tipper 2004-05-19 7:04:53 AM|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Given they have been arrested in the chaos of Iraq, strongly indicates they had a prior association with Berg. A further indication he was a Jihadi wannabe.

Posted by Phil B 2004-05-19 7:20:54 AM|| 2004-05-19 7:20:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 A further indication he was a Jihadi wannabe.

Yeah. Sure. Care to explain that leap of illogic?

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-05-19 8:57:03 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-05-19 8:57:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Logic? What happened was Berg was used and tricked into thinking he would never be harmed, and in his LLL ways he believed it. I have no sympathy for his foolishness, but foolishness alone doesn't justify what happened to Berg. Nothing Berg did justifies what happened to him.

Posted by Charles 2004-05-19 9:12:04 AM|| 2004-05-19 9:12:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 RC search for my prior posts on this, but given the facts, a perfectly plausible and possibly the only plausible explanation of his behavior is he wanted to be a Jihadi. Proved association with 9/11 plotter, heavily left wing family, wandering around Iraq feeling he was immune to what was going on. My scenario is moving up to a 90% likelyhood. Now we have the guys who did it (and how were they found?) the story will come out.

Posted by Phil B 2004-05-19 9:29:33 AM|| 2004-05-19 9:29:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 all the folks who knew him back home indicate the risk taking, obliviousness to danger, etc was part of his personality - they are generally NOT surprised. No evidence that he shared his familys politics, and some evidence that he was returning to Judaism (which would have been a shock to a typical lefty post-Jewish family) FBI checked out the Moussaui connection.

I would say case still very far from proved.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-05-19 10:21:31 AM|| 2004-05-19 10:21:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I'd say the case is shoddy, slim, and a slander.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-05-19 10:26:05 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-05-19 10:26:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I don't think you "case" measures up, Phil B. But he must have felt that he wouldn't be harmed wandering around like he was. Too bad. So many Americans underestimate the nastiness of the Islamoidz.

Posted by ex-lib 2004-05-19 10:51:14 AM|| 2004-05-19 10:51:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Phil,
Let me suggest another possibility - especially since we have the connection to ANSWER through his parents: He was there trying to find something to feed back to ANSWER to use against the Administration during the campaign. There were - in the mass media - reports of prisoner abuse going back as far as before the beginning of the year. There were lots of other 'reports' of US misbehavior before and after that. To me at least, it seems plausible that he would have thought, 'Hey, I'm on their side' - 'their' being the Iraqis, not necessarily the terrorists - and felt he would be able to convince the baddies of his bonafides.
I'm not in any way saying that this is The Explanation, far from it. But it does connect the dots a little bit.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-05-19 11:22:16 AM|| 2004-05-19 11:22:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Yea, they needed an american jew "token" to be in their jihad ranks. Geez....

Posted by Johnnie Bartlette 2004-05-19 1:31:46 PM|| 2004-05-19 1:31:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 This "case" is lunacy.

But if they got the other four, how'd they miss the big guy? Or...

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